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sarbysoor1
19-03-2018, 10:57 PM
Hi guys I need some software to adjust the mileage on an Audi A6 2015 can anyone recommend some software. Many thanks
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stuart
20-03-2018, 07:45 PM
Hi
I trust there is a legal reason for adjusting the mileage?
Stuart
sarbysoor1
21-03-2018, 01:02 AM
Hi
I trust there is a legal reason for adjusting the mileage?
StuartYes of course there has been a second hand speedo fitted to the car and is showing the incorrect mileage
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Tripletrouble
21-03-2018, 10:02 AM
I'd imagine your Audi dealer could do that for you.
sarbysoor1
21-03-2018, 10:06 AM
I'd imagine your Audi dealer could do that for you.Audi can definitely not do mileage correction they can only put the mileage on a brand new speedo not a second-hand one they're the first people I asked if they could do it the car would have gone straight into them
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Not trying to sound negative or imply something dodgy is going on.
On a 2015 car would be just within or maybe just out of warranty and if it needed a speedo replacement it would come under warranty so will be a new one from dealer.
Just trying to understand why a second hand one was fitted.
morski
21-03-2018, 03:19 PM
Yes it is possible to do and ive seen it done even on the very latest cars. But not going to divulge info as mentioned above its a 2015 car and should still be under warranty, and a 2015 speedo failing is a bit strange.
Oh and a first post by someone asking about mileage correction is not a good start imho
Whippy53
21-03-2018, 04:50 PM
Dealer job.
Uberman
21-03-2018, 05:21 PM
Yes of course there has been a second hand speedo fitted to the car and is showing the incorrect mileage
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Don't worry guys, the ECU also estimates mileage of the car (not via gearbox encoder) and although the Speedo can maybe be adjusted to show one figure, changing the ECU one is not a simple matter. The ECU can maybe can be flashed or the like to change it but, the first trip to an Audi dealer would indicate that meddling had gone on and as a minimum a TD1 would show on the cars history with potential red faces for whoever meddled with it. So the proper way to do this is with the Dealer and not "creatively"!
Whippy53
21-03-2018, 05:30 PM
Do you think that 'co-erection' might've been clickbait? :biglaugh:
Don't worry guys, the ECU also estimates mileage of the car (not via gearbox encoder) and although the Speedo can maybe be adjusted to show one figure, changing the ECU one is not a simple matter. The ECU can maybe can be flashed or the like to change it but, the first trip to an Audi dealer would indicate that meddling had gone on and as a minimum a TD1 would show on the cars history with potential red faces for whoever meddled with it. So the proper way to do this is with the Dealer and not "creatively"!
It’s all fine and dandy if they car goes back to a dealer and gets flagged but the average joe out there wouldn’t have a clue especially if they buy it second hand from a non franchise trader. Even if it does get flagged outside the dealerships no one will have a clue.
Even people with vcds or a good diagnostic machine will have trouble looking for the ecu estimated mileage. I know I’ve been messing with vcds for years and I wouldn’t know where to look for that estimated mileage.
stuart
21-03-2018, 09:12 PM
It’s all fine and dandy if they car goes back to a dealer and gets flagged but the average joe out there wouldn’t have a clue especially if they buy it second hand from a non franchise trader. Even if it does get flagged outside the dealerships no one will have a clue.
Even people with vcds or a good diagnostic machine will have trouble looking for the ecu estimated mileage. I know I’ve been messing with vcds for years and I wouldn’t know where to look for that estimated mileage.
This is a scan from a few years back from my old Seat Exeo, the mileage from the ECU is shown at the top of the scan, and as I had the car from new it was within a few miles of the speedo reading... Did the same on my Ibiza as well :)
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This is a scan from a few years back from my old Seat Exeo, the mileage from the ECU is shown at the top of the scan, and as I had the car from new it was within a few miles of the speedo reading... Did the same on my Ibiza as well :)
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thats good to know 👍🏼. Never paid much attention to the scan other than use it as a backup from me playing with coding in case I **** something up.
stuart
21-03-2018, 09:31 PM
Not sure if it works with all models, but all my cars seem to show it :) I think it is within 20-30 miles of the speedo reading...
Not sure if it works with all models, but all my cars seem to show it :) I think it is within 20-30 miles of the speedo reading...
That difference could be just conversion from km to miles depending how many decimal places you use as it’s not exactly 1.6 km to 1 mile.
I would expect it to be fairly accurate as the ecu know engine speed and which gear it’s driving, only time is when you are coasting down a hill it will miss that but then it could pick up abs sensor and other sensor readings in those circumstances
Uberman
22-03-2018, 07:34 AM
It’s all fine and dandy if they car goes back to a dealer and gets flagged but the average joe out there wouldn’t have a clue especially if they buy it second hand from a non franchise trader. Even if it does get flagged outside the dealerships no one will have a clue.
Even people with vcds or a good diagnostic machine will have trouble looking for the ecu estimated mileage. I know I’ve been messing with vcds for years and I wouldn’t know where to look for that estimated mileage.
I intended my response as more of a warning; it is not a completely undetectable crime if you illegally wind back the odometer! [I am NOT implying that the OP intends to do anything illegal]
As for finding it in VCDS there is even a dedicated function to show you the estimated mileage and as other have said it is in the header of every report run in VCDS [the online manual on the VagCom site is a great reference]. I bought both of our current Audis from new, however when I bought my son and daughter's cars (Polo and Fabia) the cars were around 6 months old and it was the first thing I checked before I bought them...strange looks from the sales team but they had little option other than to let me check the mileage and also for fault codes.
Totally agree that it’s not undetectable. I think it’s great that places like these forums make it easier to find these thing out, it’s just a shame that not everyone out there is as savvy as the members here.
I think for the OP, if you have clear documentation/audit trail, receipts and work carried out for the instrument cluster then it shouldn make any difference if the speedo read 100k or 10k. It shouldn’t affect resale value if you can prove the mileage.
It shouldn’t affect resale value if you can prove the mileage.
Anyway it could look ugly.
I think, Audi have the proper equipment to set any mileage for the instrument cluster, as they are able to do this if they replace the modul on their own. So, IMHO for money, they should be able to legally replace the figures, but probably it costs more, then to replace the entire unit by them.
I agree with you, with a proper documentation, there could be no problem with the different figures. However, there will be problems for sure, it the figures will be changed outside the Audi area, as in this case it will be a fraud EVEN somebody sets the correct value for this element, as in this case you will surely miss the proper documentation that the mileage is correct. And when the next owner will bring the car to an Audi dealership, they will find the fraud.
And there will be no excuse, that somebody only replaced the unit and wanted to see the proper value.
Falconmick
22-03-2018, 06:50 PM
Not an offence to adjust recorded mileage, but it is an offence to sell a car knowing the mileage to have been altered and not declaring it.
sarah1331
22-03-2018, 06:50 PM
I have just checked mine
And what if he retrofitted clocks like me in engine advance measurements it brings clock millage up
Enigma tool
Smok UHDS can both do millage buddy
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Not an offence to adjust recorded mileage, but it is an offence to sell a car knowing the mileage to have been altered and not declaring it.
In my experience 9 out of 10 times people who want to alter mileage is for a more fraudulent reason.
sarah1331
22-03-2018, 07:00 PM
In my experience 9 out of 10 times people who want to alter mileage is for a more fraudulent reason.
It’s only an offence if you alter the millage to gain from it
Providing you inform the next owner of the real millage it’s not a problem
I agree most people do it to satisfy PCP contracts
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I agree most people do it to satisfy PCP contracts
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I think this is why this post has had a bit of negativity. The car is 2015 and hitting 3 year which is when most pcp contracts expire.
Most people I know who modify cars/retrofits either won’t be doing it on a car under warranty or will use new parts.
sarah1331
22-03-2018, 07:09 PM
*cough* I have a 2016 a6 face lift and have retrofitted the clocks and needed to edit the millage I did increase them tho lol we been talking about on another thread and rear dynamic lights next up matrix led
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sarah1331
22-03-2018, 07:09 PM
Yes it’s still under Audi warranty also not on PCP lock stock the ******** lot
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Whippy53
23-03-2018, 09:50 PM
Huh, I'm baffled why your doing this.
Falconmick
23-03-2018, 09:58 PM
In my experience 9 out of 10 times people who want to alter mileage is for a more fraudulent reason.
Fully agree, but that’s what the law is or was. :)
sarbysoor1
24-03-2018, 05:34 PM
In my experience 9 out of 10 times people who want to alter mileage is for a more fraudulent reason.You obviously know some very dodgy characters mate and what's it got to do with you anyway
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sarbysoor1
24-03-2018, 05:35 PM
In my experience 9 out of 10 times people who want to alter mileage is for a more fraudulent reason.And as you've already been told it's not an offence to CORRECT the mileage on a car it is an offence to sell it knowing the mileage has been tampered with I don't know why you waste your time
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stuart
24-03-2018, 05:37 PM
Think this has now run it's course.... now closed
sarbysoor1
24-03-2018, 05:37 PM
I have just checked mine
And what if he retrofitted clocks like me in engine advance measurements it brings clock millage up
Enigma tool
Smok UHDS can both do millage buddy
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProMuch appreciated buddy I have smok but it doesn't seem to do it I will try enigma tool many thanks for your time
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