What to buy? 2.0TDI, 2.7TDI or 3.0TDI and what to look out for

[Darks]

Hi all,

Looking at A6 estate's in Austria and have found the usual bunch of 2ltrs, 2.7 and 3.0ltrs. My budget is around 7-11euros for a car which will get me 170k-240k car's. Whilst I know the basics i.e. try and find a car with service history etc is there one type I should be aiming for over the other or anything that is prevalent in any of them?

Yes I know that the 3.0tdi is the best but is there anything the 2 or 2.7 is better for - manual or tiptronic (not multitronic)?

Quattro or non?


PS - Oh an I also was considering the Allroad and have read about the air suspension issues so let's throw that in the mix.

Thanks in advance!

Darko

[Novica]

I would avoid 2.0 TDI until 2009, only if car has full service history and oil pump replaced. I have 2.0 TDI from 2011 and so far is good. I am on 205000km without any problem.

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[Darks]

Thanks Novica! Hvala!

I was leaning towards the 2.0 (manual) or either tiptronic / manual 3.0ltr. Whilst I would love a full service history, examples of full service history are it was serviced twice by dealer - first time at 20 or 30k and then at 190k and hence full service history!

what was the issue with the 2.0? I've gathered info about the 3.0 (injectors / tiptronic servicing etc).

I am planning on buying a Ross Tech VCDS to use as a scanning tool for buying a car, but I almost bought a 2007 2.0 TDI manual the other day but he's away until the end of August (when I'll be in country).

[Novica]

The issue with 2.0 TDI is oil pump drive. There is plenty examples on net with this problem. Once happen the oil pump stop working and if you do not stop immediatelly whole engine can break down. The problem is resolved with face lift models from 2009 when they start with Common Rail engines.

I have 2.0 CAGB engine, it is ok but a little under power (100 kw), I would sugest you 2.0 with 125kw should be fine.

Pozdrav

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[lynalldiscovery]

I dont know about the 2 litre but bloke at work had the 3.0tdi new clutch and dmf Im sure he said best part of 2k!

Wife is on her 3rd 3.0tdi quattro with tiptronic proper slush box auto and all have been good, first one the injectors started to go.
With the v6 engines if you start them from cold and theres no rattles even for a nanosecond shes a good un.

Being in Austria I would say the quattro would be very handy.
Only way to get proper slush auto box is to get the 3.0 tdi version.

[Darks]

Thanks peeps. Looks like I'm leaning towards the 3.0 more and more as I can't seem to find a 2.0 newer than 2007 in my price range.

Are the DIS and Nav screens easy to change? Many of the cars I've found in Austria have the red monochrome but low ks Whilst the colour ones all have higher ks

[niedzial1983]

If you buying 3.0tdi go for asb engine or lifted version . First 2004-2006(first half) had issues with chain and tensioners .

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[Darks]

Thanks mate, there's a few 07 /08 that have caught my eye. My brother in law is making contact with the sellers and ill either take it to audi for inspection or their equivalent MOT mob oamtc as that'll tell me Something's.


If you buying 3.0tdi go for asb engine or lifted version . First 2004-2006(first half) had issues with chain and tensioners .

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[Novica]

To change from red screen to color is expensive and need some skils. From other side, if you want navigation then you need even to remove component protection from used parts and for that you have to go to dealer. I would sugest you to find car with as much equipment as posible. When I was searching for my car, the navigation was obligatory.

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[Darks]

Yes decided not to bother. I've found a 7/2008 3.0tdi Quattro tiptronic with full service history (230k), Brown leather, AMI, sunroof . Can't tell which MMI but does have Nav.
I'll be getting my bro in law to check it with Audi.
Did this year sort out the injectors? Am I right that 2008 isn't facelift?
Do I need to worry about the box?

[Novica]

Facelift started from september 2008, but there are models pre-facelift first registered even in 2009. The one that you found seems with good equipment and I think is the last prefacelift model. In my opinion the cars which are produced on the end of their production life are the best buy.

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[Darks]

I agree, here in Oz I tended to buy the last of a series.. all problems sortted out.



Facelift started from september 2008, but there are models pre-facelift first registered even in 2009. The one that you found seems with good equipment and I think is the last prefacelift model. In my opinion the cars which are produced on the end of their production life are the best buy.

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[Darks]

Bugger. Missed out on the car I found.
So the search is still on.

Question re the 2.7 apart from not being Quattro is there any reason to not look at these?

[lynalldiscovery]

I would just wait it out, as soon as you buy a 2.7 the world will be awash with 3.0 quattros!

[C6Allroad]

Bugger. Missed out on the car I found.
So the search is still on.

Question re the 2.7 apart from not being Quattro is there any reason to not look at these?
If you buy a 2.7 then every time you get behind the wheel you will wish you had bought a 3.0 Quattro. Better to wait a little while for the car you want than regret for a long time the car you bought.

[Darks]

Fair enough. Yeah I'm thinking that I probably will want the 3.0.

There's 2 cars that I'm keen but the owners are currently on holidays.

09/2007 3.0 auto. New injectors and a few bits and pieces with approx 210, but has full s line

05/2008 Allroad with 270k but full audi service history. MoT came back perfect. No issues with air suspension.

The only thing that worries me is the k's but I've seen A6s in Austria with 350-400k goung firm on money so figure that if looked after the cars go well for that amount of ks.



If you buy a 2.7 then every time you get behind the wheel you will wish you had bought a 3.0 Quattro. Better to wait a little while for the car you want than regret for a long time the car you bought.

[C6Allroad]

You may need to consider an increase to your budget.

[Darks]

That's kilometres not miles! Low kilometre ones are 14000 Euros plus against 9000euros

[Novica]

I was looking some reviews on youtube of A6 3.0 TDI with more or less 500000km and still going strong. Of course, it is preferable to buy car with less km and younger.

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[Darks]

Of course! Here in Australia I change my cars at approx 75,000 kilometres if bought new and 150,000 second hand. In Austria I don't want to commit 20k plus Euros on a car (yet). My plan is to have my first car in Austria for at least 2 years which will be approx 30-40k's of driving for the 2 years. By that time I'll hopefully be in a position to buy 2014/15 4G's.