Audi UTR

[nbedford]

Just had an email about Audi Universal Traffic Recorder, pretty tempted by the pricing that has been offered. Found this short video online, but couldn't find too much information or any reviews against other dash cams.

Audi Universal Traffic Recorder - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBsvXam2yR0)

I know a few on here have gone the dash cam route. I like the idea of OEM product.

Does anyone have any experience of the Audi dash cam, or know how it compares to the favorites that get recommended here?

Regards, Nic

[Papereyes]

Just had an email about Audi Universal Traffic Recorder, pretty tempted by the pricing that has been offered. Found this short video online, but couldn't find too much information or any reviews against other dash cams.

Audi Universal Traffic Recorder - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBsvXam2yR0)

I know a few on here have gone the dash cam route. I like the idea of OEM product.

Does anyone have any experience of the Audi dash cam, or know how it compares to the favorites that get recommended here?

Regards, Nic

How much is it going for?


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[MacUsers]

At the moment, it's only available in Australia I think.

-S

[nbedford]

Definitely available here, my dealer has confirmed. Price may not be as good as I first thought, but still not bad for audi genuine accessory and audi fitting. Quoted prices are:

£410 for front only (inc fitting and VAT)
£550 for front and rear (inc fitting and VAT)

You maybe able to haggle a bit ;)

[andyhud007]

Wow. Never knew it existed. Audi trying to get in on the dash cam action. Wonder if it's just a rebranded product like blackvue or something. Good find!

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[ahin4114]

Keen to get some details and a review, I'm looking at alternatives at the moment. Surprised they can't just tap into the reversing camera through software (where available of course)...


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[MacUsers]

Doesn't it look a bit bulky? I was looking for something like this: i-Tentek B40 A118C Capacitor Version GPS Stealth Dash: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BXNF2X2)
But again, that's not Audi branded. :o

-S

[Nemo78]

Hadn't realised it was in the UK market - prices above look a lot cheaper than Lookers seem to be offering unless this price includes fitting?

Universal Traffic Recorder | Lookers Audi (http://www.lookers.co.uk/audi/servicing-parts-offers/universal-traffic-recorder/)

Can't see any tech specs or reviews anywhere yet tho?

Front camera part number could be 4G0063511

[ahin4114]

Hadn't realised it was in the UK market - prices above look a lot cheaper than Lookers seem to be offering unless this price includes fitting?

Universal Traffic Recorder | Lookers Audi (http://www.lookers.co.uk/audi/servicing-parts-offers/universal-traffic-recorder/)

Can't see any tech specs or reviews anywhere yet tho?

Front camera part number could be 4G0063511

Did a bit of digging myself this morning. The price at lookers seems high, here a better breakdown:
http://www.harwoods.uk.com/audi/parts-accessories/dash-camera-offers/

Summary for Q7 owners - £410 front, £550 front+rear (inc. VAT + Fitting)

Some high level features listed here:
Audi launches Universal Traffic Recorder dash cam in Australia (http://www.quattrodaily.com/audi-launches-universal-traffic-recorder-dash-cam-australia/)

Summary - Audi App Available, Full HD Front and Rear, 8Gb removable SD, Driving and Parking modes available, 72 hour recording limit when parked.

Some screenshots of the app available on the app store page:
AUDI Universal Traffic Recorder on the App Store (https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/audi-universal-traffic-recorder/id1182990619?mt=8)

Looks interesting if the low light doesn't suck (though Matrix headlights help) :)

[Nemo78]

Did a bit of digging myself this morning. The price at lookers seems high, here a better breakdown:
Audi UTR Camera Offers | Parts & Accessories | Harwoods Audi (http://www.harwoods.uk.com/audi/parts-accessories/dash-camera-offers/)

Summary for Q7 owners - £410 front, £550 front+rear (inc. VAT + Fitting)

Some high level features listed here:
Audi launches Universal Traffic Recorder dash cam in Australia (http://www.quattrodaily.com/audi-launches-universal-traffic-recorder-dash-cam-australia/)

Summary - Audi App Available, Full HD Front and Rear, 8Gb removable SD, Driving and Parking modes available, 72 hour recording limit when parked.

Some screenshots of the app available on the app store page:
AUDI Universal Traffic Recorder on the App Store (https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/audi-universal-traffic-recorder/id1182990619?mt=8)

Looks interesting if the low light doesn't suck (though Matrix headlights help) :)

Great work - I may ask my Sytner guys for a price whenever car is in next.

Still doesn't say if it's 720 or 1080 HD and what the def of rear camera is.

How much was thinkware fitted £350??

[ahin4114]

Full HD does imply 1080p, as opposed to HD Ready.

RAC are listing the Thinkware at £388 fitted here:
Dash Cams | RAC Shop (https://www.racshop.co.uk/dash-cams)

[Nemo78]

Decided to call them - price as per ahin link. £550 fitted front and rear on Q7 and both cameras are 1080p HD from details they had. They did only receive the cameras in stock this week and he was saying that it does a fair bit of stuff.

Audi did have an advert where a woman parked her car at the airport...partner came along looking like he was going to break in but the radar module picked him up and alerted her on the phone - and there he was proposing to her in front of the camera .... and she watched on her smartphone....ahhhh

[anemeth]

Doesn't it look a bit bulky? I was looking for something like this: i-Tentek B40 A118C Capacitor Version GPS Stealth Dash: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BXNF2X2)
But again, that's not Audi branded. :o

-S

I got the more recent version of this, the A119 (non GPS version). I got it from China for 80USD, using it for two month without any problem.

[nbedford]

The iPhone app appears to have a manual contained within, but the tech specs imply the rear cam is 720p

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[MacUsers]

I got the more recent version of this, the A119 (non GPS version). I got it from China for 80USD, using it for two month without any problem.
Very neat installation. Is it the original 119 or 119S? Found this comparison interesting: Viofo A119 vs A119S Review - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzG576-IG8I)
Did you do the rear camera as well? And how is the power etc. terminated?

-S

[anemeth]

Very neat installation. Is it the original 119 or 119S? Found this comparison interesting: Viofo A119 vs A119S Review - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzG576-IG8I)
Did you do the rear camera as well? And how is the power etc. terminated?

-S

It is A119 without GPS. No rear camera as 7 month of the year I have sunshade on the rear window (longer summer here:)).
The switched 12V comes from a spare fuse from the fusebox under the footrest. The wire goes up to the side of the dash, where the Fusebox "C" is, there is space and I put there the 12V/5V converter. From there the wire goes along the A pillar and the roof line. I had to cut off the original USB connector and installed a 90 degree USB connector which connects to the camera. The original straigth USB connector would have been ugly and 90 degree connector is much neater.

[MacUsers]

I'm also looking for a dash-cam and trying to justify £550 over some other popular options. Does anyone know what extra (superior quality, features, seamless integration etc.) Audi UTR brings in apart from being Audi branded?

-S

[James Hamilton]

A mate has one in his A5 - it's 720p.
Audi releases first genuine accessory dash cam, mobile app also features ‘find my car’ function (http://www.caradvice.com.au/546841/audi-releases-first-genuine-accessory-dash-cam-mobile-app-also-features-find-my-car-function/#disqus_thread)

[ahin4114]

A mate has one in his A5 - it's 720p.
Audi releases first genuine accessory dash cam, mobile app also features ‘find my car’ function (http://www.caradvice.com.au/546841/audi-releases-first-genuine-accessory-dash-cam-mobile-app-also-features-find-my-car-function/#disqus_thread)

Any chance of tapping him up for some first hand feedback?

There doesn't seem to be a one size fits all solution to Traffic Cam's. Some people have opted for the ultimate image quality but compromised on other features, some have great features but poor reliability, some do everything but are the size of a GPS unit.

I'm not interested in throwing the kitchen sink at the problem, but for me it has to work when parked (most dinks I've had on any of my cars have happened when I'm not around), do front and rear (pointless knowing you've been rear ended but have no idea who did it), not be like a dinner plate behind the rear view mirror and have image quality good enough to capture the relevant details (number plate, they were talking on their mobile, actual face of the perp'), mobile app/notifications (so I can go back to the car if something happens when I'm nearby).

I'm sure Audi have probably just white labeled this rather than build from scratch, and I'd like to know which boxes they've ticked and which ones they have left.

[MacUsers]

Did anyone get any other info at all? Very limited information available on the net. I'm tempted to order Viofo A119 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzG576-IG8I)S, which is about £100 with GPS attachment otherwise someone tells me the extra 440 worth paying. :o

-S

[Nemo78]

Did anyone get any other info at all? Very limited information available on the net. I'm tempted to order Viofo A119 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzG576-IG8I)S, which is about £100 with GPS attachment otherwise someone tells me the extra 440 worth paying. :o

-S

No I haven't, other than what the parts guy told me on Saturday of which some was wrong I.e rear camera is 720p not 1080p.

I do like the radar module which is monitoring the car and activates camera should it need to - also like how it's meant to be able to alert you on the phone (now I don't know if this is also possible on the camera you mention or others on the market)

But £550 is a heck of a lot of cash and like all dash cams doesn't give any kind of side view

Tempting but would like to hear some real reviews first

[andyhud007]

I heard from somewhere it was a rebadged Blackvue DR650-2CH.. (I could be wrong).

[srbsq7]

I would like the mobile alerting feature if it worked during parking mode but it would no doubt be another SIM! Also would imagine it would reduce the parking mode time.

I’m happy with the Thinkware as it does most of what I wanted for a reasonable price.

I think in another couple of years time they will be significantly better including the picture quality.

There’s 1080p and there’s 1080p and mine is definitely not 1080p 🤣

The quality of the camera sensor needs to improve to get a much better quality image. Compared to say my iPhone 6S Plus, the static and especially motion quality is not in the same league.

[ahin4114]

I would like the mobile alerting feature if it worked during parking mode but it would no doubt be another SIM! Also would imagine it would reduce the parking mode time.

I’m happy with the Thinkware as it does most of what I wanted for a reasonable price.

I think in another couple of years time they will be significantly better including the picture quality.

There’s 1080p and there’s 1080p and mine is definitely not 1080p 🤣

The quality of the camera sensor needs to improve to get a much better quality image. Compared to say my iPhone 6S Plus, the static and especially motion quality is not in the same league.

The Thinkware 770 is where I was settling until I saw this - it's mainly the fact that it's Audi and there's little chance of any warranty issues arising from fitting (panoramic roof in mine)...


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[srbsq7]

The Thinkware 770 is where I was settling until I saw this - it's mainly the fact that it's Audi and there's little chance of any warranty issues arising from fitting (panoramic roof in mine)...


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Mine has been in several times for 'major' panoramic sunroof repairs with no issue at all. The RACShop / Chameleon install is very neat.

[MacUsers]

Mine has been in several times for 'major' panoramic sunroof repairs with no issue at all. The RACShop / Chameleon install is very neat.
Can you put some pic of the actual camera attached to the screen pls? And also the way they did the cabling. Thinkware seems a bit bit compare to others?

-S

[srbsq7]

Can you put some pic of the actual camera attached to the screen pls? And also the way they did the cabling. Thinkware seems a bit bit compare to others?

-S

Have a look on this thread. Gyro recommended it and posted pics. My experience and fitting was the same:

Thinkware F770 front and rear dash cam system (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/179142-Thinkware-F770-front-and-rear-dash-cam-system?highlight=f770+q7)

[muumipeikko]

I talked with a guy in Wimbledon Audi who saw it in Germany when he was on training and said it was amazing but you need to turn the sound recording off apparently. I was clearly desperate to blow some more cash as on the strength of that mine going in at the end of the month to have it fitted.

[Nemo78]

I talked with a guy in Wimbledon Audi who saw it in Germany when he was on training and said it was amazing but you need to turn the sound recording off apparently. I was clearly desperate to blow some more cash as on the strength of that mine going in at the end of the month to have it fitted.

Mirrors what I was told - guy I spoke to hadn't been on training but his colleague had and he said it was simply amazing

[MacUsers]

.......it was simply amazing
Was there anything else to backup [t]his statement? It's probably better looking and will fit better with the interior but is it £200 more (or less) amazing? Is it a dual channel Camera?

-S

[Nemo78]

Was there anything else to backup [t]his statement? It's probably better looking and will fit better with the interior but is it £200 more (or less) amazing? Is it a dual channel Camera?

-S

Nope unfortunately not...thing is until one of us has it and runs with it we won't really know. But by the sounds of it we will have our first review at the end of this month [emoji1360]

[nbedford]

Well mine was due to be fitted today, but got a phone call saying they haven't got the parts in stock and they have now gone on back order. So either lots of people have had it fitted, or the marketing emails had jumped the gun before part production was ramped up

[muumipeikko]

Mine got pushed back a week as well. Hopefully this Thursday they will fit it.

[ctuffley]

Does anyone know if this fits the new q5


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[Nemo78]

Does anyone know if this fits the new q5


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It does indeed and costs a little more for some reason - I think it was £590 for both front and rear

[ctuffley]

Thanks mate. Christmas coming up [emoji6]


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[Nemo78]

Thanks mate. Christmas coming up [emoji6]


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No worries - here was Harwood Audi prices don't know who or where they are...

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[nbedford]

Who and where they are is in your screenshot!

[Nemo78]

Who and where they are is in your screenshot!

[emoji23] far away from me then [emoji1360]

[ctuffley]

If one uk franchise can do it I'd hope they all can


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[muumipeikko]

Mine was installed today and early impressions are good. The install was done very well and looks real neat and looks like it was always part of the car.
Video image is good and the app easy enough to use.

Their is just one thing which let's it down and that's the wan connection. As you will all know the q7 has it's own wan which you need your phone to connect to to use the mmi app and things like Napster so it seems a strange decision that the utr has its own especially as most phones can only.connect to one wan at a time so connect to the utr and you lose all the stuff the mmi app gives you...
I can see it meaning I wont check it that much as its now a pain to disconnect from one wan tonconnect to another then connect back....
cost wise 590 installed from memory.

[nbedford]

Would love to see some install pics if possible?

[srbsq7]

The Audi dashcam appears to be a rebadged offering, hence why you need to connect to its Wi-Fi as you would with Thinkware, blackvue etc. It won’t be long I suspect before properly integrated solutions are factory fitted options.

[JonnyL]

Anybody got one yet? Any thoughts on initial use? They must be popular because all dealers near me are out of stock - but it would be nice to hear a forum user review before going in for the plunge.

[muumipeikko]

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Here are some pics of my install. The wires are really well hidden.

The good thing about it is it's a complete install with no wires hanging out... The bad thing is it's not very well intergrated to the car itself and their is so much faffing around to download videos (disconnect from car network, connect to UTR...) that I haven't bothered download anything.
The crazy thing is they know the car has a network and had the UTR connected to that as a client (rather than create it's own) and you been able to view the videos on the MMI this would have been the perfect system!

Ironically it a £600 purchase I hope I'll never need but if you live in London you kind of need one...

[JonnyL]

Thanks for the review. I really like the thought of the OEM style install, but the missed opportunity to integrate it into the car tech is frustrating.

[ctuffley]

3385033851
Here are some pics of my install. The wires are really well hidden.

The good thing about it is it's a complete install with no wires hanging out... The bad thing is it's not very well intergrated to the car itself and their is so much faffing around to download videos (disconnect from car network, connect to UTR...) that I haven't bothered download anything.
The crazy thing is they know the car has a network and had the UTR connected to that as a client (rather than create it's own) and you been able to view the videos on the MMI this would have been the perfect system!

Ironically it a £600 purchase I hope I'll never need but if you live in London you kind of need one...

What car do you have? I was thinking about it for my new Q5 but thought it integrated / sat closer to the rear view mirror or did you choose to have it situated there?


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[muumipeikko]

I've got a a Q7, that was just the place the installed put it. I though it would sit below the rear view mirror as that's how the pic's looked but I guess it it had been it would be a bit distracting. As it is, you don't se the camera as it's out of normal viewing focus

[andyhud007]

Hey Guys

Those of you that have the UTR installed... whats the general feedback on it if you don't mind sharing

Ta

Andy

[nbedford]

I never got it in the end, dealer useless, the day I took my car in (for service as well) they told me they couldn't do the UTR as they hadn't got the parts yet and they were on back order. Was told they would call me when part came in, but haven't heard from them since and if they call now, I think I'll give it a miss.

[srbsq7]

I think they’ve done you a favour. It’s expensive for what is pretty old hardware now.

[andyhud007]

Really? I'll give it a swerve then...

[Andymcdonald]

Can anyone provide links to what is regarded good tech


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[andyhud007]

I'm thinking the Blackvue DR650-2Ch front and back cameras

DR650S-2CH - the Cloud Dashcam with Remote Live View by BlackVueâ„¢ (https://www.blackvue.com/dr650s-2ch/)

supports uploaded files to cloud also which I like

[nbedford]

I'm thinking the Blackvue DR650-2Ch front and back cameras

DR650S-2CH - the Cloud Dashcam with Remote Live View by BlackVueâ„¢ (https://www.blackvue.com/dr650s-2ch/)

supports uploaded files to cloud also which I like

You had previously speculated the Audi UTR was based on the Blackvue, so I'm not sure how one can be good tech and the other not :( Obviously there is a price difference and the Blackvue appears to have the cloud support

[srbsq7]

You had previously speculated the Audi UTR was based on the Blackvue, so I'm not sure how one can be good tech and the other not :( Obviously there is a price difference and the Blackvue appears to have the cloud support

It’s the same as if Audi offered a smartphone that slotted nicely into the dash. You pay top money to find out its a iPhone 6 underneath.

The 6 was a great phone 3 years ago but you’d be miffed to pay £700 for it today.

The connectivity, cameras etc have come on a lot in that timeframe.

[andyhud007]

You had previously speculated the Audi UTR was based on the Blackvue, so I'm not sure how one can be good tech and the other not :( Obviously there is a price difference and the Blackvue appears to have the cloud supportI forgot I even said that. Speculation is all it is, I have no proof they are based on the same hardware.

I agree with your comments that if it is, then indeed there can't in theory be much difference. The cloud stuff is all software, not hardware after all.

I'm always happy to be corrected.

Andy.

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[rza]

Even with the average feedback, I am kinda considering this especially as the dealer is giving a goodwill gesture due to the issues I have had. Not sure yet if they will cover all the cost or part. Will debate it..

[srbsq7]

If it’s free it’s a no-brainer! Just bear in mind the latest top of the range Thinkware F800 front and rear fitted costs £458 so you don’t want to be paying anywhere near that, let alone more.

[rza]

If it’s free it’s a no-brainer! Just bear in mind the latest top of the range Thinkware F800 front and rear fitted costs £458 so you don’t want to be paying anywhere near that, let alone more.

Cool thanks for that mate

[muumipeikko]

I think people are not comparing apples with apples here. When you see the headline figure, which was just over £550, some are screeching you can get a top of the range system for that.
Yes maybe you can but then you completely destroy the lovely looks of your >£70k car with wires trailing all over the place to get power to it. Maybe you fit it yourself and end up trashing the headline trim... I think Joe public would need to spend a day or more trying to hide the wires being careful no to damage anything.

At the end of the day, the £550 you are paying is about £350 for hardware and £200 to have it professionally fitted so you don't notice the cameras and that is the true value of the Audi system. If you are happy with wires trailing from the camera to the fag lighter socket then go for a £100 Halfords job. But whatever you do, do not compare a fully fitted well engineered almost invisible solution with something which turns up in a box and you have to fit or have a third party fit...

[srbsq7]

That’s an incorrect assumption. Search the forum for the professionally fitted superior solution with no wires at a lower cost.

[muumipeikko]

That’s an incorrect assumption. Search the forum for the professionally fitted superior solution with no wires at a lower cost.
I looked at the one you suggested and the only thing it has of any value over Audi in 1080 rear camera which arguably you don't really need. The cloud stuff is just pointless and no one in their right mind would want to be uploading GB of data a month on there phone plan or the data inside account...

I guess It depends on how much you value an easy life, hardware wise their isn't anything in it really so it comes down to whether you think it's worth paying an extra £90 to have a Audi expert fit it vs a generalist RAC installer type. For me I would chose Audi everyday as saving £90 on a >£70k purchase is pointless and good luck getting RAC to take responsibility when the battery keeps getting drained if you don't drive it for a week.

[audifan2017]

I had this fitted in my brand new Q7 but im returning it next week.

The reason I'm returning it is that the app is unusable!
It crashes whenever i want to view a video.
The dash cam keeps saying events recorded during parking whenever i turn on the ignition and yet when i check the sd card, the most recent events are days old.
The Wifi Implementation is silly. Having to connect to a separate hotspot is cumbersome. Imagine if this was embedded into the MMI. Being able to view the events right there on the screen!!! They missed a trick here.
App support is NON EXISTENT! I would be willing to stick with the cam if I was sure that the app was being supported and bug were being fixed. But this is not the case.

Getting a Blackvue instead.

[srbsq7]

Sorry to hear that. Very annoying. Is it worth checking with Audi if there’s a firmware update for it? I presume you can see the current version through the app but possible you’re on a really old version that wasn’t updated.

Might be worth checking before pulling the plug completely.

Agree though, would be great if manufacturers could build in the dashcam to make it seamless.

[nbedford]

I had this fitted in my brand new Q7 but im returning it next week.

The reason I'm returning it is that the app is unusable!
It crashes whenever i want to view a video.
The dash cam keeps saying events recorded during parking whenever i turn on the ignition and yet when i check the sd card, the most recent events are days old.
The Wifi Implementation is silly. Having to connect to a separate hotspot is cumbersome. Imagine if this was embedded into the MMI. Being able to view the events right there on the screen!!! They missed a trick here.
App support is NON EXISTENT! I would be willing to stick with the cam if I was sure that the app was being supported and bug were being fixed. But this is not the case.

Getting a Blackvue instead.

I'd heard about the separate WiFi hot spot and that does seem a very disjointed approach. But the other points here are worrying, begining to think I lucked out with an incompetent dealer!

Ps. Suggest reading all of the thread, there was speculating that the UTR, was based on the Blackvue. Sounds like audi completely messed up the app.

[Andymcdonald]

That’s an incorrect assumption. Search the forum for the professionally fitted superior solution with no wires at a lower cost.

Could you perhaps provide links ? I’m not being lazy however I feel that we could perhaps organise ourselves and propose a group deal if we are all looking at the same thing


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[fronty]

It feels like Audi should add this as as a fully integrated, factory fitted option at some point. I'd have snapped their hand off!

[srbsq7]

Could you perhaps provide links ? I’m not being lazy however I feel that we could perhaps organise ourselves and propose a group deal if we are all looking at the same thing


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RAC were using Chameleon Codewing as the dashcam fitter. Might be worth a call if you can get a few people together in the same place to do the fitting?

[Andymcdonald]

Torn as to whether I order the Audi kit and collect the car ready to go? I’m no expert on traffic cameras. Or wait and get the best available? Again concerned about damage to the interior and also electrical systems...

Someone tell me what to buy haha


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[Nemo78]

Torn as to whether I order the Audi kit and collect the car ready to go? I’m no expert on traffic cameras. Or wait and get the best available? Again concerned about damage to the interior and also electrical systems...

Someone tell me what to buy haha


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Understand the dilemma - for me personally there’s been a couple of poor reviews on here on the UTR. Now it’s only two out of what maybe a number of of units out there.

Add the cost vs other dashcams it’s worth looking around.

Do you want a front and rear cam or just front? If front only then there are many options available.

If both then the Thinkware has got some positive reviews here from the guys and it’s more reasonably priced.

If the UTR by Audi was fully integrated it’d be a no brainer. Best of luck which ever way you go [emoji1360]

[muumipeikko]

I had this fitted in my brand new Q7 but im returning it next week.

The reason I'm returning it is that the app is unusable!
It crashes whenever i want to view a video.
The dash cam keeps saying events recorded during parking whenever i turn on the ignition and yet when i check the sd card, the most recent events are days old.
The Wifi Implementation is silly. Having to connect to a separate hotspot is cumbersome. Imagine if this was embedded into the MMI. Being able to view the events right there on the screen!!! They missed a trick here.
App support is NON EXISTENT! I would be willing to stick with the cam if I was sure that the app was being supported and bug were being fixed. But this is not the case.

Getting a Blackvue instead.

I totally agree they missed a trick not hooking into the car network and displaying on MMI but in terms of the issues you are having, I don't get any of them. The app connects fine and I can download and play without issue. I'm using a Galaxy S6 + S7 with latest version of app.

In terms of the "evens recorded" are you sure you are looking in the correct folder? Their are 2 modes, driving mode which records constantly and parking mode which only records when a sensor is activated, normally in my case a pedestrian walking past.

My understanding from Local Audi is the issues around the App are because it's a white labelled app and thus Audi don't write is so have issues supporting it To be honest though I seldom bother checking the videos using the app as the only time you really need to bother do this is when you come out the house and see someone has pranged it and given it legs and at that point I want to get the SD card out ASAP and backed up so I can review and show to police a "failing to stop at the site of an accident" offence.

[wardienet]

I just had my existing Thinkware F770 front & rear reinstalled into my new (approved used) Q7 for just under £100 by Chameleon Codewing, they did a great job quick and no wires anywhere to see. Can't see much difference from that and the Audi solution given its just a white labelled product anyway not integrated into the rest of the car.


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[audifan2017]

Can you share some pics of your install?

[fronty]

I was just thinking about this, and having a non-integrated dashcam might actually be a bonus if you think about it logically. Sure for minor scratches and dings etc it would be nice to have it properly integrated into the Q7's network and MMI, but what about if you're involved in a serious collision that renders the cars systems inoperable?

Having a dashcam that doesn't rely on the cars systems to function might actually be a bonus in that case!

[wardienet]

Can you share some pics of your install?
OK here we go front & back. Front pad glue needs to bed down a bit. Otherwise the only bits of wires visible are those in the first couple of centimetres from the camera units. Very tidy.

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[fronty]

That does look like a very neat install, can you get the micro-SD card in and out okay, looks like the card slot is almost right up against the headlining?

[wardienet]

That does look like a very neat install, can you get the micro-SD card in and out okay, looks like the card slot is almost right up against the headlining?

Probably possible to get SD card out but its a lot easier just to slide the unit right and off the mount, then bring it towards the driver an inch or so, then get the card out. The cables hold the unit roughly in place. Simples.
Also FYI the unit gets a very quick GPS lock now (seconds). My old car had a heated windscreen and the F770 took a few minutes to lock on - but once it did it was fine. The Q7 I got doesn't have the heated option, another tradeoff.


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[srbsq7]

Yeah, I have heated windscreen and noticed it takes a little while to lock on, only a few minutes still.

I have my parking mode set to record constantly. I think it records at 1 or 2 frames per second. Acts as a backup security camera and I can go back several days.

[MicaBlue]

Ok so I have had the front and rear UTR fitted by HazzyDayz as this was the cheapest I could find fitted.

Genuine Audi Dash Camera Front and Rear Supply and Fit (https://www.hazzydayz.com/genuine-audi-dash-camera-front-and-rear-supply-and-fit-8400-p.asp)

The overall experience is not great. The thing keeps telling me it has recorded something while parking, which is actually me leaving the car and returning to it so that feature is useless. Everytime I come to the car I have a voice telling me there are recordings. The app is clunky (based on the MMI one which currently doesn't work for me). You cant change most of the settings (IE turn the voice off) and you can't watch the recordings while driving. This is annoying as my wife likes to check them on her phone while I drive but this is not allowed.

The camera is not discrete at all.

I personally wish I had gone for something else.

A quick question for those who have one, have you found a way to stop the woman speaking so much?

[muumipeikko]

I've had the Audi UTR for over 6 months now and never had a problem with it. Peoples biggest complaints seem to be around cost, "chattyness" and the app.
In terms of the cost, £650 is a lot and you could have a similar model fitted for maybe £200 less but someone needs to give you a wake up call here. You are probably spending in excess of £65k on a car, a car you probably added in excess of £10k of accessories to and now you are worrying about saving £200 and risking (small be it) that the "professional fitter" does a bad job and damages your headlining or mess up the electrics... If you were buying a Ford Kia, fair play but their are better places to save
The chattyness is a strange one, mine only makes sounds under 3 occasions, when I start car it tells me if it has recorded anything while parked, normally it does as it captures me walking away from the car. When I turn car off it tell me it's going to start parking mode and finally if I accelerate very hard or take a speed bump to aggressively it will beep to tell me the g-sensor has alerted and I should take it easier... Apart from that I haven't noticed it so I don't really think is that chatty and I'd rather it told me things like "going into park mode" so I know it's working...
The Android app is awful, no if's or buts, but it's not as if anyone else has really cracked this and after the first few weeks of "novelty factor" you don't use the app anyway except for config. Like most other cameras you will take the SD card out and put it directly in your PC where it will take a fraction of the time to copy your data to a proper sized screen you can actually use and see things in. Their are some really great apps (who's name escapes me) which allow you to view both the front and rear camera video synchronized and while the front image is amazing quality, the back is also very good and certainly as good as my phone video.

In terms of some comment "it's not discrete", I wonder if they actually had one or just based this on seeing adverts for it as it's a dash cam at the end of the day and needs to be in a visible place and after a few weeks I never noticed it as it kind of blends into the read view mirror... Also you want people to see you have one as when someone bumps your bumper, if they can see they are on video they are significantly more likely to leave their details in London. It's not as easy as it sounds to get things sorted if all you have is a video of them bumping you even if you have reg. You have to go through insurance and that will bump your next premium up despite it being marked as not your fault as it's the way statistical based pricing works in insurance ...

The other thing is of cause if the camera does develop a fault at some point I'm not going to be caught between Audi, Thinkware (et all) and the installer trying to work out why it's not working...

Whichever way you go, I would advise getting one as mine has paid for itself with interest so far...

[Retom]

I have been using the UTR (only front) also for over 6 months and my experience is so far very positive. The installation is very easy (front), takes CA 15 minutes without cutting the wires, drilling, soldering, etc. I use it without any problems with iPhoneX and Mac. I have totally switched off the voice commends since they were irritating for me and I changed the SD on 64GB since the original was far too small. The picture quality is OK however I expected it to be better for these money. I am only disappointed that UTR is not integrated with MMI and the parking mode doesn't work (except g-sensor) when you have the heated windscreen.
I am fully in agreement with muumipeikko that when you spend so much on Q7 you should't risk spoiling the electrics ( what is very easy in this car) when you can buy Audi dedicated, safe for your car battery camera with the harness designed for your car model.

[inchshort]

does anyone know where to connect the Q7 UTR wiring loom into?

[Retom]

does anyone know where to connect the Q7 UTR wiring loom into?

First of all check if you have the harness dedicated to Q7. It should be 4G0 063 511 D. If yes, the connection is very easy. The UTR harness is the bypass of rearview mirror wiring loom (light assist and rain sensor) and you have to connect it into these plugs. When you remove the mirror and see the plugs compare it with UTRs and you will easily recognise which car connectors should be disconnected (2) and later connected with UTR loom. It is plug&play, should take not more than 15 min. If you still need more help PM me. I have the instruction - it is unfortunately in Polish but should help a bit giving the idea.

[inchshort]

Hi Retom, thanks for the info, yes I have the wiring loom but was unsure into which bypass loom to connect into. Now you have stated the rear view light sensor loom that’s fine, I see it piggybacks off that, does look straight forward, as long as I can see how to remove it. any instructions will help and I can translate them on google or the pictures will surely help.

Appreciate your effort mate.

[Retom]

PM me. I can't send it via this forum since this is too heavy file. I will send it on your e-mail.

[inchshort]

Managed to fit the UTR today. Well it’s a bit of a disappointment to be honest.

The WiFi is constantly dropping off, and I can’t even download a clip onto my phone without the WiFi disconnecting.

I put a YI dashcam in another car a few weeks ago, and in comparison YI are light years ahead in terms app connectivity, download footage, viewing live feed, which the Audi one doesn’t let you do above 5kph!.

The rear view camera is not very good at night, but the front one is better, however that’s probably due to the Q7’s lighting.

Audi really need to get a grip and sort the app and WiFi issues out on this.

[inchshort]

Tried the UTR with a Samsung Note, and it worked flawlessly. Seems Audi have invested more in Android compatibility.

[Sportingmac]

I fitted the 2ch version to our Q7 - fitting by Audi. Have never been able to hook up via wi-fi o: iPhone, LG android, and several other android phones. Gets itself into a loop or fails to connect.

I contacted Audi De and Audi UK to question if the app was at fault or the camera - they looked into it and I believe the apps (iPhone and Android) have since been updated.

I removed the camera and had it tested in an Audi workshop - it tested ok on their in house wi-fi - reported to work ok. I asked an independent installer to test it on his iPhone - not much luck at all. Same looped condition.

He has reset the camera and continues to test it before I refit it (to a new car).

Not happy with what should have been a perfect fit dash cam for Audi - now approaching Audi for a refund. Has anyone else asked Audi for a refund? And was it straight forward?

[watrob]

I have had no problems with the UTR, have front & back camera's in my 2018 Q7 e-tron, iPhone 8 connects to it no problems and the size of the camera's are fine, I want people to see them. Also have the Rear Tablet Mobile (RSI III) system, again have made a lot of changes to them so they play VOB DVD files from the SD & USB slots, 4G (LTE) Wireless internet via MMI, Games, email, Google Apps, Youtube etc, grand kids love them. They also come out of the seat back and my wife uses it on her lap instead of a iPad.

Also there is a firmware update for the UTR, I updated mine about the first week in June 2018, and when it say events recorded when parked every time you start the car is because there is a recorded event, does not mean it just happened, its reminding you there is an event on file and yes it may be weeks or months ago. Events don't get over written, you have to manually delete them. One of my events is the service department driving my car around in the service bay.

[Andymcdonald]

I have been using the UTR (only front) also for over 6 months and my experience is so far very positive. The installation is very easy (front), takes CA 15 minutes without cutting the wires, drilling, soldering, etc. I use it without any problems with iPhoneX and Mac. I have totally switched off the voice commends since they were irritating for me and I changed the SD on 64GB since the original was far too small. The picture quality is OK however I expected it to be better for these money. I am only disappointed that UTR is not integrated with MMI and the parking mode doesn't work (except g-sensor) when you have the heated windscreen.
I am fully in agreement with muumipeikko that when you spend so much on Q7 you should't risk spoiling the electrics ( what is very easy in this car) when you can buy Audi dedicated, safe for your car battery camera with the harness designed for your car model.

Just had a fail with chameleon and Thinkware. The installer has used the start/stop circuit and piggy backed the fuse, which when I test drive failed leaving me stranded and recovered by Audi assist... to say I’m ****** off is an understatement

I’ll be pursuing this to the end of the earth and making sure my car is made good


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[andyhud007]

That's poor. You should never intercept that circuit. That's poor workmanship. There are plenty of spare fuse slots to use for the camera and no need to do that.

Hope you get it sorted

Andy

[Andymcdonald]

I know he was here 3-4 hours and seems super diligent.

What’s you view? Will Audi pursue costs from me?

Ps would you have them refit or just rip it out and refund

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[srbsq7]

Have you spoken to Chameleon customer service yet? I had a dispute with Audi and they sent one of their top guys over and he put a report together which I sent to Audi and they dropped their BS nonsense.

I would give them a chance to put it right and cover any costs incurred.

I can imagine you’re very p’d off but unfortunately you can be unlucky dealing with any company if you get their worst employee! I can live with it as long as they have someone that will put it right.

Good luck

[Andymcdonald]

I agree, my concern right now is liability for recovery costs etc?

Audi Exeter seemed fair however Tuesday is a new day

Ps anyone know which fuse/circuit is best?

What I will say is that the person o spoke too at Chameleon was lovely and very understanding

Appreciate the feedback

A


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[srbsq7]

This is a pic of mine

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180730/0d851c154e2fadf092d45f9807153546.png

[markdawes]

Andy, You stated that you changed your dashcam sd card up from the standard 8Gn to a 64Gb card. Can you tell me which card you used as I have purchased a sandisk 64gb card for dashcams, but the UTR just keeps telling me to check SD Card. Did you have to do anything to get it working ? Thanks

[Retom]

Andy, You stated that you changed your dashcam sd card up from the standard 8Gn to a 64Gb card. Can you tell me which card you used as I have purchased a sandisk 64gb card for dashcams, but the UTR just keeps telling me to check SD Card. Did you have to do anything to get it working ? Thanks

I also use 64GB Sandisk. Try to format new card. Settings > System Settings > SD Format > Confirm

[markdawes]

I'd love to be able to do that, but when I turn the dash cam off, change the SD card and then turn back on, all I get it a flashing red (about every 5 seconds) LED and the cam doesn't reboot, meaning that it doesn't show as a wifi unit to connect to... Not sure whether the flashing light means that it is formatting the card, but I have left it for an hour or so, and nothing seems to change. If I take out the 64gb SD card and replace it back with the original 8GB one then the system comes back in working mode immediately ? Wondering whether I have a dodgy SD Card? Might put it into the PC and see it shows up to test, but I know that will then 100% need a re-format which currently I can't force....

Any ideas or feedback appreciated.

[markdawes]

The card works fine is a PC and so I don't think it the card, but I just can't get control via the Dashcam to format it. Do I need to do a total reset of the Camera ?

[Retom]

The card works fine is a PC and so I don't think it the card, but I just can't get control via the Dashcam to format it. Do I need to do a total reset of the Camera ?
You can try but i don't think that it will help. My Scandisk card was working without any problems just after formatting. It should be SD card, class 10, MLC. I use the card as enclosed on the picture. This is 4K ready and dedicated to cameras.

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[Sheroo]

Hi,

Has anyone fitted the front & rear UTR to an Audi A7 2018 onwards yet?

[Blacklablover]

Whilst I live in Belfast I now often drive to London to visit our daughter. Judging by the number of dink’s she gets on her car from other inconsiderate motorists and shoppers I think a front and rear dashcam is a necessity for the Q7 I have on order.
I see that the Audi UTR is £650 for the kit, not sure what it costs for them to fit, I was wondering what the view is of everyone with regard to the best kit to get fitted? Grateful for all suggestions.
I have read the whole of this thread but slightly confused. I’m working on the principle that whatever the cost it should protect me financially in the long run.

[Andymcdonald]

Lots of threads and a whole forum Dashcam talk

I have the f800pro, it works well

The Audi unit is pretty old tech


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[Blacklablover]

Thanks for the info. I will scoot off and have a look.
Lots of threads and a whole forum Dashcam talk

I have the f800pro, it works well

The Audi unit is pretty old tech


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[papadelta]

Just had a quote from Stoke Audi for my Q7 e-tron:

The cost to install front & rear dash camera`s is £1320.00 incl vat

Think I shall look at alternatives!!

[Blacklablover]

Just had a quote from Stoke Audi for my Q7 e-tron:

The cost to install front & rear dash camera`s is £1320.00 incl vat

Think I shall look at alternatives!!
At this time I have narrowed it down to the Thinkware F800 pro. £349 and the BlackVue DR900S-2CH 16GB with Rear Dash Cam and SD Card £437.80. The prices I have shown are as of this weekends Black Friday sales. I will make my mind up nearer the delivery date. The Nextbase 612GW is a Which Best Buy but is front camera only and I too also want front and rear.

[Nemo78]

Just had a quote from Stoke Audi for my Q7 e-tron:

The cost to install front & rear dash camera`s is £1320.00 incl vat

Think I shall look at alternatives!!

Jeez that’s double what my local dealers told me when it first came out

[Frithwood]

Jeez that’s double what my local dealers told me when it first came out

Another really good front and rear dash cam unit is the Qvia AR790. It has a lot going for it and can be configured for parking mode in different time increments and can also to be set to shut down to guard against low battery voltage. I had one fitted to my BMW X3 xdrive 30d M sport. I was so pleased with it that I removed it from that car (left the wiring in the car) and have recently had it fitted to my new to me FY Mk II Q5 Quattro 2.0 TFSI.

Link...
Qvia AR790 WD - 2CH Dash Camera - Advanced HD Quality (https://bulldog-secure.co.uk/shop/bulldog-van-security/qvia-ar790-wd-2ch-dash-camera/)
via AR790WD features:


Wifi enabled, for connecting to your smart phone – Apple & Android
Unit comes with a 16 gig sd card, but can take up to a massive 256 GB!
Full HD – 1920 x 1080p (30fps) – Front & Rear
Built In Low Voltage Cut Off Function
Built In Dual Band GPS ( GPS + Glonass)
Format Free – The camera can sort out SD card file issues
21 Language support
Day & Night – Video Options
Multi booting System – ACC-On-Off
AE (Auto Exposure)
ADAS – (Advanced Driver Assistance Systems)
Dual OS – Android&IOS – PC Viewer: Windows & Mac

Kit also include the following:


Includes: Hardwire Cable
Includes: GPS


My original install was carried out by the main distributor (ttw), but when I had it refitted to the Q5, I found there is an organisation called car cameras shop.co.uk who have mobile teams who will fit at your premises. Just ring them.
They came out at 5 days notice to suit me and it was all done and tested within 2 hours.
Contact Us | Car Camera Shop (https://www.carcamerashop.co.uk/contacts)

Naturally they sell Dash cams...
http://www.carcamerashop.co.uk/

[srbsq7]

Jeez that’s double what my local dealers told me when it first came out

I think they were looking for someone to fund the Christmas party [emoji23]

[ceejay804]

I have front and rear facing Audi UTR cameras. i can view the files recorded whilst i have been driving when i am static and i am able to view both front and rear recordings however when i try to find the rear camera recordings when i take the SD card out, i am unable to find them, i can only find the parking files and driving (front facing camera only) files. How are you supposed to send a rear shunt incident to the insurance companies if you can only find the forward facing camera recordings?

[andyhud007]

I have front and rear facing Audi UTR cameras. i can view the files recorded whilst i have been driving when i am static and i am able to view both front and rear recordings however when i try to find the rear camera recordings when i take the SD card out, i am unable to find them, i can only find the parking files and driving (front facing camera only) files. How are you supposed to send a rear shunt incident to the insurance companies if you can only find the forward facing camera recordings?Install vlc on your computer and play the files through that. You can choose which video stream to play (front cam or rear cam)

I'm pretty sure thats how to do it.

Andy.

[ceejay804]

Cheers Andy,
I have VLC installed and was using it so i looked closer and indeed if you click on the video tab and then video tracks it allows you to click on the other track/recording.
Many thanks

[gambo]

Had AUDI UTR for about a year. Expensive but quality of front and rear images is v good and parking sensors really works. Of course, it can't do miracles. If the screens are obscured or its very dark (rear screen in particular) you've had it. Heavy rain makes it very difficult to see much. You will need to alter the angle of the rear camera by trial and error. The front camera is fixed.

The recordings are done in 1 min batches and the dedicated software (next para) automatically goes through the batches in time order. When viewing, the car seems to be travelling very fast, but this is an illusion. A word of warning. The system uses mini mem cards (up to 128 G is fine) and they will easily 'ping' out when you are taking out the card for viewing. I have lost two in the car already! Simply can't find them!

I really struggled to find a video reader that works. Then, somewhere on this or another group forum, I saw there was a PC programme dedicated for the UTR at http://www.econes.de/AUDI/UTR/Viewer/
However had that in their entry, thank you SO MUCH. It is so easy to use and I can see FRONT, REAR and PARKING IMAGES easily.

The iphone app works but I don't use it much. The reason is that it appears that you have to connect the i-phone to the UTR network, then re-connect your phone back afterwards so that the i phone can be used in your car. This a real nuisance. In practice, if something happened, I would withdraw the mini mem card and replace it with a spare that I carry in the car. I would then view on a laptop or PC.

[Q7quattro]

Hi All

Does anyone know the difference between UTR 4G0063511F and UTR 4G0063511H

Have some improvements be made to the original cameras ? ( I’m sure I’ve heard this somewhere - but can’t find any info about it)

Thanks

[Retom]

F is up to 29/03/2018 G and H from 30/03/2018.

[Q7quattro]

F is up to 29/03/2018 G and H from 30/03/2018.

Many thanks Retom.