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Bar Shaker
03-01-2016, 03:31 PM
Leaving the car in Dynamic doesn't give you the full flavour Dynamic settings. For that, you need to select it at the start of each drive. Once selected, you see S4, for example when in 4th gear.

Do you select this, or do you live with Dynamic Lite?

M1tchy
03-01-2016, 04:59 PM
Or you can put the car in drive and then pull the gear leaver back to engage sport on the DIS.

But to answer your question - Rarely


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Splash
03-01-2016, 09:49 PM
Are you assuming the car has been allowed to warm up sympathetically? I assume Audi have tried to prevent abuse and make it idiot proof. If it's already warm then great, but I'd be concerned about brake discs warping from the automatic parking brake if you're driving it that hard and then turning off the ignition.

Scott K
03-01-2016, 09:57 PM
Same as Mitchy, either pull the gearstick back to put it in sport or drop the gears using the paddles. Use it coming to junctions, roundabouts, overtaking, slip roads etc but don't bother much otherwise.

ukgroucho
04-01-2016, 12:09 AM
Likewise, pull back to "S" for spirited overtakes or traffic light fun - only use drive select for "dynamic" if I am into some proper twists with a chance to make progress as that also tightens up steering and drops the air suspension on the allroad.

wja96
04-01-2016, 07:31 AM
Are you assuming the car has been allowed to warm up sympathetically? I assume Audi have tried to prevent abuse and make it idiot proof. If it's already warm then great, but I'd be concerned about brake discs warping from the automatic parking brake if you're driving it that hard and then turning off the ignition.

When you first start the engine the redline (indicated by the red LEDs) is lower. Once the engine warms up, the redline increases.

On on the parking brake, I have no idea.

A6ian
04-01-2016, 10:31 AM
Leaving the car in Dynamic doesn't give you the full flavour Dynamic settings. For that, you need to select it at the start of each drive. Once selected, you see S4, for example when in 4th gear.

Do you select this, or do you live with Dynamic Lite?

I'm not fully getting this? are you saying that Dynamic is different if you select from the onset to what it is if you select it partway through a journey?

Bar Shaker
04-01-2016, 02:15 PM
I'm not fully getting this? are you saying that Dynamic is different if you select from the onset to what it is if you select it partway through a journey?

No it's the same, but if you have the Car menu set to Dynamic and you just select Drive, you get a sort of Dynamic Lite. If you click Dynamic in the Car menu, after starting the car, then you get the full double espresso Dynamic... the same as pully the lever back from D.

The car is a thug in full Dynamic. Great fun to drive.

A6ian
04-01-2016, 02:34 PM
Oh, Right got it. I use Auto then flick it into S when i think i may need it. can't call mine a 'thug" but it'll give a delinquent a shock if i bother to try.

wja96
04-01-2016, 02:41 PM
No it's the same, but if you have the Car menu set to Dynamic and you just select Drive, you get a sort of Dynamic Lite. If you click Dynamic in the Car menu, after starting the car, then you get the full double espresso Dynamic... the same as pully the lever back from D.

The car is a thug in full Dynamic. Great fun to drive.

Surely the only difference between the two is that the gearbox mode has been changed from S to D?

And you can regain S by simply tipping the shift lever.

On my own car the suspension drops to the lowest setting, the steering is actually firmed up and the number of turns lock to lock changes. If you don't have air suspension, adaptive damping or dynamic steering these changes don't happen. If your car has the active differential then that is locked (or locked more) but as my car doesn't have this, nothing happens there for me.

If if you have an S-line then you might get a slightly firmer steering wheel but it can't change much else because there isn't anything to change. You've already got the firmest possible lowest suspension and if you only have the standard steering all it can change is the weight of the steering (and then only slightly) and put the car in S gearbox mode.

it would be interesting to know the exact spec of the OPs car to see how much is actually changing and what is placebo effect.

Bar Shaker
04-01-2016, 03:46 PM
Surely the only difference between the two is that the gearbox mode has been changed from S to D?

And you can regain S by simply tipping the shift lever.

On my own car the suspension drops to the lowest setting, the steering is actually firmed up and the number of turns lock to lock changes. If you don't have air suspension, adaptive damping or dynamic steering these changes don't happen. If your car has the active differential then that is locked (or locked more) but as my car doesn't have this, nothing happens there for me.

If if you have an S-line then you might get a slightly firmer steering wheel but it can't change much else because there isn't anything to change. You've already got the firmest possible lowest suspension and if you only have the standard steering all it can change is the weight of the steering (and then only slightly) and put the car in S gearbox mode.

it would be interesting to know the exact spec of the OPs car to see how much is actually changing and what is placebo effect.

The big changes are throttle response and gearbox change points. The steering is also heavier, but the number of turns lock to lock remains unchanged. I have S-Line sports suspension so this remains the same. I have no idea if boost targets are also changed, but this would not surprise me as it is more urgent than driving in Comfort and using the paddles to hold the gears.

wja96
04-01-2016, 04:54 PM
The big changes are throttle response and gearbox change points. The steering is also heavier, but the number of turns lock to lock remains unchanged. I have S-Line sports suspension so this remains the same. I have no idea if boost targets are also changed, but this would not surprise me as it is more urgent than driving in Comfort and using the paddles to hold the gears.

So really, it's just putting your car in the S gearbox mode (which holds onto gears until the redline etc.) and reducing the assistance to the steering. Comfort mode actually has it's own gearbox settings so it doesn't surprise me that you think it's a bit tardy in comfort mode. In comfort mode it will never jolt you on a downshift, or let you rev the engine very hard.

I definitely think, on your car, you can just leave it in Dynamic and then tip the selector to get the full caffeinated experience. If you get the chance, it's definitely worth trying a car with adaptive suspension and the adaptive steering as it's a really different drive. I would like to try the rear diff as, reading what some RS6 owners gave written about it, it sounds like it really tightens up the back end under power out of wet roundabouts which is about the only thing I find about the car that doesn't inspire massive confidence. The fact that I'm running 18" wheels and all-season tyres probably doesn't help either with ultimate handling.

Splash
04-01-2016, 09:38 PM
The fact that I'm running 18" wheels and all-season tyres probably doesn't help either with ultimate handling.
Deviating slightly: What did you end up fitting? I know you were considering Latitude Cross at one point.

wja96
04-01-2016, 10:16 PM
Deviating slightly: What did you end up fitting? I know you were considering Latitude Cross at one point.

Michelin Latitude Cross 235/55/R18 100H. Great tyres.

Splash
01-05-2016, 08:05 PM
I had a Eureka moment in a recent journey and thought how good it would be to be able to select drive select profiles by voice.

I've either embarrassed myself by not absorbing the entire manual, or come up with something for the C8 wishlist - unless it's in the C7 FL or someone's worked out a hack.

For me the benefit would be easier suspension changes as that has more options than steering or gearbox which has its own "hard" selector.

ChuckMountain
06-05-2016, 11:12 AM
The big changes are throttle response and gearbox change points. The steering is also heavier, but the number of turns lock to lock remains unchanged. I have S-Line sports suspension so this remains the same. I have no idea if boost targets are also changed, but this would not surprise me as it is more urgent than driving in Comfort and using the paddles to hold the gears.

So I am still finding my car which is probably more or less the same as yours still surprises me when I put my foot down sometimes and it still appears quicker.

Just so I understand what you are saying is if you leave it in Dynamic mode then when you restart the car is no longer in sport mode for the gearbox (and throttle response) ? Surely it remembers the last setting or at least mine does. Maybe I will have to check.

MFGF
06-05-2016, 01:16 PM
...if you leave it in Dynamic mode then when you restart the car is no longer in sport mode for the gearbox (and throttle response) ? Surely it remembers the last setting or at least mine does. Maybe I will have to check.

I think the issue is that when you stop and leave the car you put the gear selector in P. When you get back in you start the car and set the gear selector to D, and you are then in D not S, even though the Drive Select setting is still Dynamic. The solution (so it seems) is to select S from the outset every time you take the car out of P :)

MF.

ChuckMountain
06-05-2016, 02:15 PM
Yes I jumped in my car to grab some lunch and yes works exactly as described, even the redline moving as others have noted. Its amazing what gets overlooked each time ....

ukgroucho
14-05-2016, 11:26 PM
But if you leave a BiTdi in S then it will not shift to 8th gear - you can force it into 8th with the paddles but once it drops out of 8th it will not go back unless you manually select it. Not sure if the s-tronic does the same (stays in 6th and below) but if so it's definitely gonna dent your fuel economy.