possible internal coolant leak

[Ben]

Over some months now, maybe over the past year, i've been monitoring the rate of coolant loss from my expansion tank. It was a constant rate, one expansion tank (1 ltr) every 3000 miles / 3 months. its been into the garage, they cant detect any external leak and any internal leak would be so small it would be undetectable and not worth throwing copious amounts of money at it. Well recently i think it has developed a bit more.

the oil looks like this chocolate shade

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb105/golfmk5gttdi/20150719_154215_zps3ikuvzz0.jpg (http://s208.photobucket.com/user/golfmk5gttdi/media/20150719_154215_zps3ikuvzz0.jpg.html)

is this a sign of water in the oil?

[Ben]

Ots the head gasket gone. Its being taken apart and sent for pressure testing. All being well it might only cost £1200

[lynalldiscovery]

Only 1200 quid!
I would have said k-seal it and sell it asap.

[Doctle Odd]

Only 1200 quid!
I would have said k-seal it and sell it asap.


Not nice that

[lynalldiscovery]

No I know 1200 quid is a lot of money.

Oh sorry you meant the k-seal comment:approve:

Its very popular in the motor trade, no need to ask why?

[Doctle Odd]

No I know 1200 quid is a lot of money.

Oh sorry you meant the k-seal comment:approve:

Its very popular in the motor trade, no need to ask why?

Oh contraire Rodney, it's popular with the scammers and rip off merchants and the downright dishonest but that isn't the motor trade

[lynalldiscovery]

Well I have worked in the motor trade for well over 25 years and you are making me smile.

Ive used k seal in one of my own cars for years, kept my knackered 1959 rad going for another 2/3 years.
Friends vw rad no money for new one, k seal fitted 8 years later its still running.
Friend used it in his pajero for a couple of years, then the same with another vw polo I think.
Another work mate vw passat with the v5 engine, he used it well over a year ago, guess what? its still running fine.
Loads of people on other forums I visit have used it all with success.
As you can see Im speaking with a little experience on the subject
We use it at work.
It is one of them products that really works, no matter what the doubters say.

Forget to say ref your comment on the motor trade not being dishonest or rip of merchants I reckon 50 percent of car buyers just may disagree with that and rightly so.

[Doctle Odd]

I too am in the motor trade and I'd fix the car not bodge it

[Ben]

If i didn't need the car to go on a family holiday and had the time and money to px at a dealer then id get rid, but as i don't.....

[Doctle Odd]

Only 1200 quid!
I would have said k-seal it and sell it asap.

If k-seal is such a wonderful permanent repair why sell asap?

[lynalldiscovery]

If i didn't need the car to go on a family holiday and had the time and money to px at a dealer then id get rid, but as i don't.....


Ben dont butt in we are having a debate here:biglaugh:


If k-seal is such a wonderful permanent repair why sell asap?



Just how long have you been in the motor trade? and what do you do?


If i didn't need the car to go on a family holiday and had the time and money to px at a dealer then id get rid, but as i don't.....

I would say hire a car, then kseal, then sell, still got to be cheaper overall?

[Doctle Odd]

Just how long have you been in the motor trade? and what do you do?


What do you think I do, weave baskets? General repairs and servicing, VAG cars if possible but I'll fix anything barring Renault

[Cavanmick]

If kseal was so great there wouldn't be a machine shop left open in the country, it's a bodge at best and causes even more damage at worst. ...

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[lynalldiscovery]

Well I was thinking car washer or maybe receptionist mainly due to your naivety at the way the world works.

[lynalldiscovery]

If kseal was so great there wouldn't be a machine shop left open in the country, it's a bodge at best and causes even more damage at worst. ...

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Actually machine shops are dropping like flies down this end of the world, I can think of at least 3 poss 4 that have shut up shop in the last 10 years some very recently.
I know my mate has lost two machine shops he used to use in the last year or two.
I would bet a fair chunk of money that theres many many car owners driving around without realising they have k seal in their coolant system.
Its not like the <REMOVED> type rad sealants, that block all the small passageways up.

[Eshrules]

Actually machine shops are dropping like flies down this end of the world, I can think of at least 3 poss 4 that have shut up shop in the last 10 years some very recently.
I know my mate has lost two machine shops he used to use in the last year or two.
I would bet a fair chunk of money that theres many many car owners driving around without realising they have k seal in their coolant system.
Its not like the <REMOVED> type rad sealants, that block all the small passageways up.

We like to think of VWAF as a fairly grown up place with a little humour (in the relevant adult rated threads) thrown in for good measure.

You don't appear to be offering the OP any useful advice in regards to his issue so can I respectfully request you either do so or stop taking the thread off topic?

Thanks

[Doctle Odd]

You probably won't believe or understand this but there are people around that will do the job properly. They tend to be a bit more expensive, that's because they can guarantee their work. Obviously your "repair" suggestion to the OP isn't permanent otherwise why say twice to sell ASAP. Ibet you wouldn't be such a fan of bodges if you bought anything that had been bodged together in order to sell to some hapless mark.

[lynalldiscovery]

We like to think of VWAF as a fairly grown up place with a little humour (in the relevant adult rated threads) thrown in for good measure.

You don't appear to be offering the OP any useful advice in regards to his issue so can I respectfully request you either do so or stop taking the thread off topic?

Thanks

Love it.

My first reply was constructive advice, ie k-seal and sell it, you then came along and offered no advice to the op, just jumped on my back and you took the thread of topic.

Anyway you didnt reply to my question, ie how long have you been in the motor trade?

[lynalldiscovery]

You probably won't believe or understand this but there are people around that will do the job properly. They tend to be a bit more expensive, that's because they can guarantee their work. Obviously your "repair" suggestion to the OP isn't permanent otherwise why say twice to sell ASAP. Ibet you wouldn't be such a fan of bodges if you bought anything that had been bodged together in order to sell to some hapless mark.

Yes I know there are and Im one of them, you may find that hard to believe but its true, what I look after does 100/150k plus per year (not 10k) and people get upset if it goes wrong, but we still use k-seal.

I have run large workshops, been responsible for many men/10 of thousands of pounds of expenditure per year, for many years.

I can argue all day long, in fact I can start an argument in an empty room, I am what I am and dont pretend otherwise, you know like people with their telephone voices!

I kind of give up, but like I say any argument is fun.

[Cavanmick]

Yes I know there are and Im one of them, you may find that hard to believe but its true, what I look after does 100/150k plus per year (not 10k) and people get upset if it goes wrong, but we still use k-seal.
So by your own logic does everything you put k seal in get sold straight after then???

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[Doctle Odd]

Love it.

My first reply was constructive advice, ie k-seal and sell it, you then came along and offered no advice to the op, just jumped on my back and you took the thread of topic.

Anyway you didnt reply to my question, ie how long have you been in the motor trade?

Been doing repairs for 18 years with a 2 year sabbatical. The sabbatical was due to being undercut by a guy that paid no taxes , no rates no waste disposal charges and I bet he was bulk buying k-seal by the pallet load. Anyway the Sunday market oil, Chinese filters and and Indian brake pads got him a poor reputation (quelle surpris) and many disgruntled customers so I recently put one foot in the water again. I don't have a problem with some of those "instant" repairs like tyre foam or radweld. The radiator is going to be dumped anyway and the tyre cleaned and patched or dumped. I have a big problem with temporary bodges to sell a POS car to some gullible person.

[Sam]

Gentlemen.

My colleague Eshrules has already asked that this thread return to the subject at hand. We really shouldn't have to ask this more than once.

If you insist on comparing the size of your toolboxes, perhaps a new thread could be created in the Chat section?

Thank you.

[Eshrules]

Third and final time of asking for this thread to be returned to topic.

The next off topic post will earn its author a night in the cells with me.

[Ben]

All fixed. It transpired it was the head gasket. Got it back todat after a week in the garage. Head removed, pressure tested and skimmed. All refitted with new cam belt and water pump, gaskets, bolts and a loom somewhere. All done intime for the trip to France by forum sponsor iautouk now trading as motorservuk

[lynalldiscovery]

All fixed. It transpired it was the head gasket. Got it back todat after a week in the garage. Head removed, pressure tested and skimmed. All refitted with new cam belt and water pump, gaskets, bolts and a loom somewhere. All done intime for the trip to France by forum sponsor iautouk now trading as motorservuk


Well thats at least good news, I would still be crying at the 1200 quid.

Also on the bright side Im told operation stack has finished.