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L3nnox
18-07-2015, 09:03 PM
Right what to I buy next??? The Ultra is a stunning car, just not the right engine and box for me..... Just too slow all round... So....

Requirements as I see them... (In no particular order)
- Economic: I'm no Eco warrior but just not 20mpg as my X5 was
- Germanic: it's going to be from the three main families, Bmw, Merc or VAG
- family focused: I have a one year old so an SUV or estate (don't do saloons, remind me of uncool Jettas and Orions)
- Xfactor: be it styling, speed/power or new tech it must have a USP.
- Classic: I don't do OTT, mad paint schemes or brands that I need to explain(sorry Skoda lovers)
- Quality out of the box: I generally short term lease so I cannot have a car that requires £20k worth of options to make it the right car


My current short list includes (all for different reasons)
- 535d M Sport touring pro media (miss my E61)
- 335d xdrive M Sport touring pro media (best all rounder?)
- CLS Shooting break 220cdi prem plus (stunning)
- Touareg Altitude 3.0 R line (a lot for not a lot )
- Audi SQ5 (wife's 2nd choice)
- Audi A6 BiTDi Avant Black edition or Allroad BiTDI (proper power could equal best car??)
- used - 2010 FFRR Vogue SE TDV8 (wife's first choice)

And my two random cars I have upcoming test drives in....
- Jaguar F Pace (not sure about Jaguar?!?)
- Tesla p85D (may be too expensive)

Thoughts & comments highly appreciated.....

chiefbadger
18-07-2015, 09:24 PM
I was in the exact same spot - but with two kids under 3. My S4 BE Avant should arrive early Sep. looked at 335i, 335d, SQ5, avoided the a6 and 5 series in the end, as just getting a bit fed up of always having to contend with it being so wide. Also looked at the Golf R estate and c63 (old shape) and felt that the S4 met most of the things I wanted (despite the design/tech being a little older).
The Tesla is very interesting, but I would guess it might be a little more? I didn't look as live in a terraced house and would want a drive/garage.
Just drive as many of them as you can I'd say and if you can live with the size of the a6 then go biturbo!!!


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ukgroucho
18-07-2015, 10:49 PM
My current short list includes (all for different reasons)
- 535d M Sport touring pro media (miss my E61) Err yeah but until they get a X-drive version in RHD they are a liability in the wet. And I still think Audi interiors are better.
- 335d xdrive M Sport touring pro media (best all rounder?) Too small IMO but a nice car to be sure.
- CLS Shooting break 220cdi prem plus (stunning)drive a Merc? Do you think you're really old enough to drive a Merc?
- Touareg Altitude 3.0 R line (a lot for not a lot) Indeed but still a bit ungainly on the curvy bits and you have to deal with the "SUV haters"
- Audi SQ5 (wife's 2nd choice) My wife wanted one... The boot is a stupid shape after an A6 - not very deep but tall. I like the MMI integrated into the dash ala C6 A6 but could not get past the boot shape.
- Audi A6 BiTDi Avant Black edition or Allroad BiTDI (proper power could equal best car??) ​Allroad all the way but then I am biased
- used - 2010 FFRR Vogue SE TDV8 (wife's first choice) Err HORRIBLE fuel consumption (neighbour has one, yes it's an 08 but they get 20 to the gallon)

- Jaguar F Pace (not sure about Jaguar?!?) No comment - no experience
- Tesla p85D (may be too expensive) My only brief experience was in a taxi from Schipol airport (they have hundreds of them). Very cool dash etc. Funky experience with the fast acceleration and just tyre noise.. but. Not that big inside and as a rear seat passenger I was surprised by how much wind noise the rear quarterlights generate (and a US colleague who took a separate taxi ride commented on this also). Not for me yet, I need an estate / avant / sportback, I need 4WD and i need more than 300 miles on a "tank" until the charging infrastructure becomes more pervasive.

Thoughts & comments highly appreciated.....

Injected my comments into your text above.

L3nnox
18-07-2015, 11:10 PM
Just drive as many of them as you can I'd say and if you can live with the size of the a6 then go biturbo!!!

Thanks, agree on the S4, it's as you say smaller and it will be replaced by the time I change (April next year)....
Yeah looking at the Golf R to replace my Wife's 2014 GTD next year, basically a mini S4....

Chief, I have the C7 A6 already and having had an E61 then an X5 35d, my wife and I are cool with big cars...... In fact I'm finding the A6 too small in the load bay currently, roof boxes must be purchased!!

An I haven't driven the A6 Bitdi.... So need to get that sorted.


Injected my comments into your text above.

Thanks Groucho, so what's the main benefits for going for an Allroad over an Avant? Just ride height???

retired99
19-07-2015, 12:42 AM
I’ve been driving around in an Biturbo A6 Allroad for the last two years. I’ve enjoyed the car greatly, fast, comfortable, reliable etc.

However I got the urge for something different and have ordered a Porsche Macan Turbo which will be delivered September / October.

A good match for your tick list:

Economic, well the Diesel version is and still quite quick
Germanic, doesn’t get more Germanic than Porsche
Family focussed, it’s a Q5 sized SUV
X-Factor, not very common
Classic, might not be the prettiest car but not ugly and does have the classic Porsche styling cues
Quality, very high quality.

As a result of the upcoming arrival of the Porsche there will be a well specced A6 Allroad Biturbo on the market towards the end of August should anyone be interested!

L3nnox
19-07-2015, 07:04 AM
I’ve been driving around in an Biturbo A6 Allroad for the last two years. I’ve enjoyed the car greatly, fast, comfortable, reliable etc.

However I got the urge for something different and have ordered a Porsche Macan Turbo which will be delivered September / October.


I applaud your taste Mr Retired, I test drove the Macan Diesel a month or so back, lovely car, loved the build quality, design and funnily the switchable suspension. Having that on my X5 would have been a god send.

However it's way too expensive on a lease (Porsche unlike the rest of the family don't offer lease companies huge discounts) , like the Q5 I just don't think it's big enough, and for me the Macan is like the Evoke a yummy mummy motor. The Turbos a different car, granted.

I did look about for a good used Panamera last December but their rare and still very expensive.

I'm sure you will sell the Allroad fast, I am personally trying to stay away from used cars, had too many bad experiences and the Ultras not technically due back till April. My lease company wants me to order by October so they car guarantee a straight swap (possibly early!)

retired99
19-07-2015, 10:22 AM
Agree with the ‘yummy mummy’ perception. Have to live with it.

Macans are , at least at the moment, very cheap to own. Take a look on Autotrader or the Porsche used car site. One year old Macans listed at around, or in some case, above list. This suggests a very strong residual value which the lease companies are using to enhance profit.

If some form of finance is wanted then I guess a PCP would be the way forward as, at the end of the term, there would be a good amount of equity in the car.

As far as the size goes, if it isn’t big enough then there’s nothing to say. A plus point for me as I was looking for something slightly smaller than the A6.

If you do go down the A6 route it’s worth mentioning that Allroads depreciate a bit less than non Allroads should be cheaper to lease.

Scott K
19-07-2015, 01:08 PM
I stayed away from the a6 avant as my wife has an a4 avant but the allroad would really tempt me. The saloon has enough space for me 99% of the time and I have a roof box if I really need it.
2 guys in my office have got rid of RR sports (both less than 3yrs old) due to issues and running costs. One has gone to a 335d and the other an SQ5 which he reckons has more space for the driver. The SQ5 driver reckons his fuel costs have halved! I think the 335 is too small.
Out of your cars my choice would be the allroad bi turbo. I want 4WD but not an SUV / truck type vehicle. I think the allroad looks sufficiently different to the Avant. If you can live with slightly less space, an S7 might tick a lot of boxes.

L3nnox
19-07-2015, 02:33 PM
Macans are , at least at the moment, very cheap to own. ......very strong residual value which the lease companies are using to enhance profit.

.... Allroads depreciate a bit less than non Allroads should be cheaper to lease.

Yeah there are a few deals out there, just not big enough.

Here some of what I just had to Tetris into the car for a week in Arran..

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/ea26efd621fb223a7656bba6321e5215.jpg



RR sports (both less than 3yrs old) due to issues and running costs. One has gone to a 335d and the other an SQ5 which he reckons has more space for the driver. The SQ5 driver reckons his fuel costs have halved! I think the 335 is too small.

NEVER A RRS!!! Hateful tasteless cars...... Sorry major pet hate. Yeah agree, I think the 335d is too small and a step back from the A6 interior quality.....



Out of your cars my choice would be the allroad bi turbo. I want 4WD but not an SUV / truck type vehicle. I think the allroad looks sufficiently different to the Avant. If you can live with slightly less space, an S7 might tick a lot of boxes.

Just driven down from Glasgow to Ardrossan and we have agreed love the A6 but it's replacement needs to have more power and I fancy a lighter interior.... The black too dark and on a day like today, hot!

MarkTM
19-07-2015, 02:47 PM
If you don't have small children or animals then a light interior not an issue.

I get what your saying about darker absorbing heat but my next one will have ventilated seats :)

L3nnox
19-07-2015, 02:52 PM
If you don't have small children or animals then a light interior not an issue.

I get what your saying about darker absorbing heat but my next one will have ventilated seats :)

I have a one year old but she's a clean sole...... No food in the car, but agree would need a seat cover......

I nearly bought an S350cdi AMG with the cooling massage seats.... Very nice!!

Scott K
19-07-2015, 07:26 PM
You took the booze home!! Poor show.
Not a big fan of the RRS but very nice once you are inside just far too common up here. The proper rangies are so much nicer. Would love a Spen King version but prices are getting daft. No real need for range rovers up this way-most are used for the school run and the big alloys and low profile tyres mean they are pretty crap in the snow anyway. Same goes for most 4x4s now.
Anyway, nice problem to have and good luck with the search.

L3nnox
19-07-2015, 09:38 PM
You took the booze home!! Poor show.
Not a big fan of the RRS but very nice once you are inside just far too common up here. The proper rangies are so much nicer. Would love a Spen King version but prices are getting daft. No real need for range rovers up this way-most are used for the school run and the big alloys and low profile tyres mean they are pretty crap in the snow anyway. Same goes for most 4x4s now.
Anyway, nice problem to have and good luck with the search.

No this is me going!!!! I'm here now!! lol in Lamlash, just back from the Drift Inn and eating a Chinese!

Stephen does have a good taste in cars...... He once tried to get in my P38 HSE (inherited), identical to his!!!!!! Lol, he was well confused!

Yes great problem to have and one I spend far too much time on, but it's the hunt I enjoy!!!

ukgroucho
19-07-2015, 11:06 PM
Thanks Groucho, so what's the main benefits for going for an Allroad over an Avant? Just ride height???

Incidentally my brother (in the US) has an S4 and it's a great drive - he has a saloon as they decided to not sell avants in the US apart from the A4 allroad. It is definitely compromised on space if you have a family and have been used to the A6 or similar size.

allroad.. well it's a bit different - there are far far fewer allroads sold than A6's or A6 avants so it is a bit less common (and is one of the reasons I strongly favor the light body colours - silver, white etc. as they show off the body kit).
Unless you want to go full bore sporty and s-Line of BE with lowered suspension and sports diff etc. then the allroad provides a different experience. You get air suspension as standard ( and a few other trinkets), yes if you want to you can do low profile tyres and sports diff... but it's not that kind of car. It's a comfortable cross between an executive limo and an SUV - does not suffer from the negative stereo type stuff of either but is always smart and somewhat interesting wherever you take it. And it's a bit of a Q car... fat audi estate, not an S or RS but it can haul when it needs to.

And the slightly limited edition thing does seem to help on residuals.
I had a C6 3.0 Tdi avant before ... I wanted the allroad but it was not released at the point when I was buying - and based on the last 2 years I think I'd probably look at a C8 allroad if they do one.

Scott K
19-07-2015, 11:21 PM
I like the chrome grill. Makes it stand out a bit. There was a black one at the dealers and looked really smart.

L3nnox
20-07-2015, 10:44 AM
Random car....... Just seen one of these.... Looked very nice, maybe not as good as the A6 but different.....

Passat Bitdi 240 R-line 4Motion

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/20/d14417afcbb66b06f9ff41e011571e16.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/20/2040f0f0c35398727f926eeca8fb0d56.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/20/3eb37f76833c574396b65ff97a3f768d.jpg

chiefbadger
20-07-2015, 11:03 AM
I looked at one of those too. Really like the look of it and the fact it was so understated comparatively. Couldn't make it work on the financials though to be competitive. Too much of a depreciation hit compared to Audi when on PCP plays havoc on the monthly figure.


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Chesterfield313
20-07-2015, 09:11 PM
Right what to I buy next??? The Ultra is a stunning car, just not the right engine and box for me..... Just too slow all round... So....

Requirements as I see them... (In no particular order)
- Economic: I'm no Eco warrior but just not 20mpg as my X5 was
- Germanic: it's going to be from the three main families, Bmw, Merc or VAG
- family focused: I have a one year old so an SUV or estate (don't do saloons, remind me of uncool Jettas and Orions)
- Xfactor: be it styling, speed/power or new tech it must have a USP.
- Classic: I don't do OTT, mad paint schemes or brands that I need to explain(sorry Skoda lovers)
- Quality out of the box: I generally short term lease so I cannot have a car that requires £20k worth of options to make it the right car


My current short list includes (all for different reasons)
- 535d M Sport touring pro media (miss my E61)
- 335d xdrive M Sport touring pro media (best all rounder?)
- CLS Shooting break 220cdi prem plus (stunning)
- Touareg Altitude 3.0 R line (a lot for not a lot )
- Audi SQ5 (wife's 2nd choice)
- Audi A6 BiTDi Avant Black edition or Allroad BiTDI (proper power could equal best car??)
- used - 2010 FFRR Vogue SE TDV8 (wife's first choice)

And my two random cars I have upcoming test drives in....
- Jaguar F Pace (not sure about Jaguar?!?)
- Tesla p85D (may be too expensive)

Thoughts & comments highly appreciated.....

I hope you're not planning to drive the drive the F-Pace before you decide? You could be sometime, official release hasn't even happened yet, just a few sneak pics and a wrapped one for Team Sky. Unless you have different info, the "upcoming" test drive must be some time off?

Ps. I'd go for the biturbo, but again, I'm biased.

L3nnox
20-07-2015, 10:16 PM
I hope you're not planning to drive the drive the F-Pace before you decide? You could be sometime, official release hasn't even happened yet, just a few sneak pics and a wrapped one for Team Sky. Unless you have different info, the "upcoming" test drive must be some time off?

Ps. I'd go for the biturbo, but again, I'm biased.

Yip I do!!!!! I was at the XE and XF launches this year...... Got my name down for an early test drive pre launch!!! ;) Got to see some "other photos" too on an internal chaps phone. Stunning car, but I'm still not sure. Have a weekend in an XE supercharged coming up too.

Tesla a week on Friday, so I need to do my sums....

But the BiTDI is top of the list...... For now.

Chesterfield313
20-07-2015, 11:14 PM
Used to have an XFS and active on a forum still. Had half an hour on the phone with product development managed last week after having a moan on their Facebook page about the new XF, lack of choice and large price hike.

Might have to try and wangle an early test in the F-Pace myself. Although, by all accounts it probably won't be big enough for me (or you). Style over boot size and no matter how big your j a g is, the back seats and boot are small, must be the huge bonnet.....

It's being touted as a mid size SUV, so competing with Macan, Q5, X3 etc.

Chesterfield313
20-07-2015, 11:18 PM
Ps. I wouldn't bother with the XE supercharged, I tried the F-Type with the same engine and it felt significantly slower than the biturbo. Similar bhp and much less torque. And XE has much smaller interior than even the 3 series.

Although, a drive on your own for a day might be fun, even if you know you're never going to buy one.

L3nnox
20-07-2015, 11:45 PM
Ps. I wouldn't bother with the XE supercharged, I tried the F-Type with the same engine and it felt significantly slower than the biturbo. Similar bhp and much less torque. And XE has much smaller interior than even the 3 series.

Although, a drive on your own for a day might be fun, even if you know you're never going to buy one.

Sorry yeah it's just for fun..... Not a consideration..

L3nnox
20-07-2015, 11:52 PM
It's being touted as a mid size SUV, so competing with Macan, Q5, X3 etc.

Yeah it might only be suitable as a 2nd car but I'm currently trying to line up a Golf R Variant (posh word for Estate lol) as the replacement for the "small 2nd car" in 15 months.

Still keen to see if the F pace is any good, but the wife has stated she doesn't like the teaser photos and wants a SQ5 if I won't buy her a FFRR. She just trying to upstage her sisters 2014 Disco HSE....

berlintaxi
21-07-2015, 10:33 AM
I’ve been driving around in an Biturbo A6 Allroad for the last two years. I’ve enjoyed the car greatly, fast, comfortable, reliable etc.

However I got the urge for something different and have ordered a Porsche Macan Turbo which will be delivered September / October.

A good match for your tick list:

Economic, well the Diesel version is and still quite quick
Germanic, doesn’t get more Germanic than Porsche
Family focussed, it’s a Q5 sized SUV
X-Factor, not very common
Classic, might not be the prettiest car but not ugly and does have the classic Porsche styling cues
Quality, very high quality.

As a result of the upcoming arrival of the Porsche there will be a well specced A6 Allroad Biturbo on the market towards the end of August should anyone be interested!

Stunning car but I thought the lead time on Macans was at least 12 months.

retired99
21-07-2015, 11:34 AM
Stunning car but I thought the lead time on Macans was at least 12 months.


Lead times are long. It seems to be about 6 months for a diesel and longer for petrol, but this varies from dealer to dealer. Time spent with a dealer list and a telephone can give a good result. It did for me, place order for Turbo in July for delivery September / October.


The point I was trying to make is that because there is high demand and low supply secondhand values are, at the moment, strong. Dealers are offering one year old cars at around new list price. This makes it a cheap car to own independent of purchase price.

Depreciation is usually the biggest cost of owning a new car so low depreciation is a good thing.

A Macan should a cheap car to own even if current residual values fade.

berlintaxi
21-07-2015, 11:41 AM
Totally agree, ordered a Macan Turbo for the missus last week, the dealer said the earliest she would see it would be late July/August next year so may as well wait and take delivery in September, good job really as she can't decide what to tick on the options list yet.

retired99
21-07-2015, 11:51 AM
Totally agree, ordered a Macan Turbo for the missus last week, the dealer said the earliest she would see it would be late July/August next year so may as well wait and take delivery in September, good job really as she can't decide what to tick on the options list yet.

Think I got really lucky, sales person said as they are relocating to larger premises they had just been given extra allocation and I called on the day that happened. Not sure I completely believe this, but that's not important. Have to say I only picked up the phone because I'd ordered a Turbo in February of this year and had just been told that I wouldn't see the car until some time next year. Seemed worth a few minutes to see if I could do better.

So I now have two cars on order. Will collect the car in September and decide what to do about the other one later.

Easy to spend lots of time on the configurator choosing and then re-choosing options. Mine's 'locked' now, which is actually a relief.

berlintaxi
21-07-2015, 12:03 PM
I don't imagine you will have any problem shifting either of them, I would run the one you get in September and then flog it when the new one arrives, in the current market chances are you will lose no money.

L3nnox
21-07-2015, 02:27 PM
I don't imagine you will have any problem shifting either of them, I would run the one you get in September and then flog it when the new one arrives, in the current market chances are you will lose no money.

Agree.

A chap I knows dad bought an R8 when it came out, drove it for a year and sold it for LIST!!! Serioulsy???? Not fair!!

So agree on the Macan being a residuals strong car, pity the lease deals are not totally reflecting that. Anyway I'm not forking out £70k for a car that doesn't meet my needs in the off chance I only lose a few grand...... A Cayenne maybe that's a better size....

L3nnox
22-07-2015, 09:28 PM
Right, prob not the best place in the world to be talking to the wife about what car she wants next.... Arran..... Quite a few posh cars about... (Obramovich was here 2 weeks ago with this mates on his boat. His plane was at Glasgow airport)..... One of these parked beside us today. Wife: "that would do"....... Pukka yummy mummy mobile....

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/22/1c31c78ee32bbfd1ca89693c890be077.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/22/6cf492f1e2f3180cf40890ac4e53deb8.jpg

And well in budget......
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/22/3f66761a707f1da794adf06914cf7523.jpg

Maybe I could upgrade the GTD replacement to an S3 or something tasty then???

isleaiw
23-07-2015, 10:26 AM
looks fab - but hasnt got the new diesels that are in the XE - so not great on emissions or fuel. New engine will be along within 12 months I am told....

L3nnox
24-07-2015, 08:29 PM
Started looking at X3 35d's but pulled back to either an Allroad 272 or Black Edition. Avant 320 looks like the winner.... The sq5 is well and turly dead as is the FFRR after speaking to an owner of a 4.4 TDV8 = 20mpg. No thanks.....

L3nnox
24-07-2015, 08:30 PM
In Black with the silver leather.....

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/24/7a454b531a1502bbaeca822fe52c9540.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/24/4224ec00488d65ac6e053df4d166e026.jpg

OMG

ukgroucho
25-07-2015, 12:58 AM
Started looking at X3 35d's but pulled back to either an Allroad 272 or Black Edition. Avant 320 looks like the winner.... The sq5 is well and turly dead as is the FFRR after speaking to an owner of a 4.4 TDV8 = 20mpg. No thanks.....

Allroad 320.. pimp it a bit and have something that looks a bit different and is well and truly a "Q car"

L3nnox
25-07-2015, 04:44 PM
Allroad 320.. pimp it a bit and have something that looks a bit different and is well and truly a "Q car"

No I'm starting to pull away from the Allroad as I would need to go for the more expensive Sport model and load up about £2500 worth of options to it. I'm leasing over 24 months so combined that would increase the deal by over £150 a month.... Taking it into RR Sport territory...... I need to order in the next few months so will watch the prices but either the BiTDI or 270bhp BE looks the business...

The Ultras actually been a great car this week.... Few places on Arran where you need more than 190bhp....

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/ac7ecc330af601167dfa509626fb09f8.jpg

L3nnox
05-12-2015, 05:36 AM
Getting closer to putting my money where the noise comes from....... Been to and from A to Z of the car world, FFRR and more recently a loaded new 335d touring but post reminiscing about my old 535d I'm closing in on this...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/aa1d1e352815087451e0733f1d53809b.jpg

So spec = Black edition but which engine??
1. Sensible 2.0 Quattro?
2. Or straight to the 3.0 BiTDI??????? [emoji6]

with TDI tuning box on the BiTDI it really delivers a phenomenal car.... it as you can see at 377bhp and 556lb-ft that's 40 more torques(?) than a standard RS6!!!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/faedee434d80b0237032bb1a1dfeebdc.jpg

A6ian
05-12-2015, 09:32 AM
Why not test drive the 272PS, it's better than you would imagine, not the BiTd sound but neither is the 2.0 Tdi Q.

L3nnox
05-12-2015, 12:16 PM
Why not test drive the 272PS, it's better than you would imagine, not the BiTd sound but neither is the 2.0 Tdi Q.

In fact I'm doing just that, my neighbour has one in his fleet so is going to give me a shot of it. My mates got a 2012 245bhp and I've driven that a few time so I know roughly what I'm looking at.

For the relatively low upgrade cost from the 272 to the BITDI i think it might be worth it.

Also dos anyone know if the BITDIs exhaust is programmable? What I mean is I see YouTube videos of them sounding amazing?!? What is this??

Audi A6 Competition (Sound Booster Pro) - YouTube (http://youtu.be/TxkFfFF-UQY)

Here a video of a German spec car, assume competition spec is the same as our Black Edition??

Audi A6 Avant 3.0 TDI BiTurbo 326pk Quattro Competition S-tronic - YouTube (http://youtu.be/W6EAwERcgfQ)

A6ian
05-12-2015, 03:00 PM
For the relatively low upgrade cost from the 272 to the BITDI i think it might be worth it.



In that case you've kind of answered your own question. If cost is not an issue go BiTD all the way.

If the 2.0 Q was an option, some of the other engine options in between that and the BiTD are a viable upgrade in power and smoothness.

PeterPan114
05-12-2015, 05:49 PM
Also dos anyone know if the BITDIs exhaust is programmable? What I mean is I see YouTube videos of them sounding amazing?!? What is this??

Audi A6 Competition (Sound Booster Pro) - YouTube (http://youtu.be/TxkFfFF-UQY)

Here a video of a German spec car, assume competition spec is the same as our Black Edition??

Audi A6 Avant 3.0 TDI BiTurbo 326pk Quattro Competition S-tronic - YouTube (http://youtu.be/W6EAwERcgfQ)

I found this online, it looks like a plugin hardware device.

https://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/sound-booster-pro/audi/soundbooster-pro-active-sound-audi-a6-4g-a7-4g

L3nnox
05-12-2015, 06:36 PM
In that case you've kind of answered your own question. If cost is not an option go BiTD all the way.

If the 2.0 Q was an option, some of the other engine options in between that and the BiTD are a viable upgrade in power and smoothness.

Prob but I'm happy to be wrong or challenged!! I do usually just buy the top of the range but if the 190 in Quattro is sufficient for the car then I have more to play with when the GTD computer for renewal in November!! Lol. But as this will be my main car then yeah 370bhp and 550lbft would be nice to have again!!

L3nnox
05-12-2015, 06:39 PM
I found this online, it looks like a plugin hardware device.

Soundbooster Pro Active Sound Audi A6 4G, A7 4G-40180 (https://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/sound-booster-pro/audi/soundbooster-pro-active-sound-audi-a6-4g-a7-4g)

"Only for cars with Active Sound Generator" does the BITDI have this as standard???

"Only for the race track". Lol. Like it!!

ukgroucho
05-12-2015, 08:46 PM
Yes and the SQ5

L3nnox
13-12-2015, 12:29 AM
Right ordering next week..... Which alloys??

1.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/f1feb9b59e3a398a212c7819d5a71739.jpg

2.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/4c607a1ee5a05d72e7e88c0a14042449.jpg

3.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/54c1dd2d5f80e67dc0d3eed9bb7e041c.jpg

ukgroucho
13-12-2015, 01:59 AM
Pics 2 & 3 are the same alloys aren't they?

Anyway the ones in pic 2 look nicer but could be a pain the the whatstit to keep clean. Pic 1 look great and easier maintenance. You decide :)

L3nnox
13-12-2015, 06:45 AM
Pics 2 & 3 are the same alloys aren't they?

Anyway the ones in pic 2 look nicer but could be a pain the the whatstit to keep clean. Pic 1 look great and easier maintenance. You decide :)

Similar.... Just the finish I think..... Here the three on the configuration site..

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/1042a0a236572355d10ab6ba1b978b78.jpg


Here these might work better .....

1. I do like these but personally think these are a bit common nowhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/83bc61d4bc00fca36e1f4c37a0d493b3.jpg

2. Love these but yeah could be a pain to keep cleanhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/9cd8d4ee328bb550334a334eb6c05e60.jpg

3. Probably what I will pick, look like the new RS6 wheels and may compliment my GTDs wheelshttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/d9df5e5e49303dd15933e12ea87a5e96.jpg

JamesMo
13-12-2015, 09:59 AM
I've just been through the same process with the wheels, my thoughts were;

1) rotors - I really don't like the design, it's starting to look tired already - easiest to clean and dark colour will look clean longest
2) silver rs6 style - look great, especially on darker colours/Daytona - nightmare to keep clean (though got to be easier than my current 7 twin spokes!)
3) titanium rs6 style - look great in the flesh, though not so good with the darker paint colours/Daytona - still difficult to keep clean, but dark colour will mean stay looking cleaner longer.

My decision was option 3, but with a lighter body colour - tornado grey - to provide some contrast. Whether this is a good decision time will tell!

good luck,

james

jsav
13-12-2015, 12:38 PM
I had same dilemma, in end went for titanium rs6 alloys as rotors starting to look a bit common. I've also gone for black paint with the lunar silver leather. Still unsure whether that was right decision.


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L3nnox
13-12-2015, 07:07 PM
Why not test drive the 272PS, it's better than you would imagine, not the BiTd sound but neither is the 2.0 Tdi Q.

Well drove my neighbours face lifted 272BE today and it NIGHT AND DAY, above our Ultra. It feels so planted that I worry now there is something wrong with our, it's that bad!!

I was mighty quick and plenty but for £20 a month on the work lease deal the 320 it must be!


I had same dilemma, in end went for titanium rs6 alloys as rotors starting to look a bit common. I've also gone for black paint with the lunar silver leather. Still unsure whether that was right decision.

That was the combo I was going to go for but I'm also undecided if that's the right choice. Any photos?? Does the Lunar have light coloured alcantara on the door cards??


I've must been through the same process with the wheels , .....My decision was option 3,

Yeah my neighbours has these wheels and in the flesh they look stunning, SOLD!

soft
13-12-2015, 10:27 PM
What about A7?

L3nnox
13-12-2015, 10:44 PM
What about A7?

Need an Estate and I'm not a big fan of the A7s looks. If I could have a coupe saloon it would be a 640d Grandcoupe..!!

DJ Daddy-O
13-12-2015, 10:55 PM
I test drove the Bi-T and the 272 and in the end bought the latter because in real life day to day driving I felt little difference.

I went for the Allroad sport which has 19" 10 spoke Matt titanium wheels and look the mutt's nuts against mythos black.

Not a brill picture, but from when I picked it up (been filthy ever since with all the pants weather!).

29361


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L3nnox
13-12-2015, 11:56 PM
look the mutt's nuts
29361


Thanks for sharing. Agree looks great..

I like the idea of the AR Sport, but cost sky rockets to get the wheels And kit I would want etc.... Seeing the facelift BE in the flesh today and knowing I'm going to have the opportunity to have my 535d levels of remapped power and torque is intoxicatingly sweet!!

Now which interior???

Black or
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/13/9ddb5aad66c10deb8e785b85a68a05e0.jpg

Lunar??
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/13/0cf2562419cc3591f03e929ca3cd0e3a.jpg

DJ Daddy-O
14-12-2015, 12:14 AM
I regularly have 5 in the car (inc 2 teenagers and two 11 year olds) and a dog so it had to be black interior for me!

I did though take an A7 out too and it had the lunar silver interior, which was simply gorgeous. I just wouldn't want the risk of a lighter colour, so for me at the moment it doesn't work.

The black interior in an S-line or BE is very dark because of the dark headlining (which is lunar silver in my Allroad, so lifts the interior).

If it works for you, lunar silver definitely has a more special feel to it


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L3nnox
14-12-2015, 12:13 PM
I regularly have 5 in the car (inc 2 teenagers and two 11 year olds) and a dog so it had to be black interior for me!

I'm rather fastidious about my cars cleanliness and I worry keeping Lunar clean might be a bit much.... Black may the sensible choice but I love the look of Lunar, as update it looks special.

Nonetheless, we have a number obstreperous kids and it may get wrecked, being a lease car not sure I want that bill!!

A6S
14-12-2015, 02:24 PM
Lunar interior is very nice. So far 6 weeks and not mark a damp cloth hasn't been able to remove.
Ps. I have 2 year old that likes standing on the seats with his shoes and the rest of his crap

L3nnox
14-12-2015, 04:19 PM
Lunar interior is very nice. So far 6 weeks and not mark a damp cloth hasn't been able to remove.
Ps. I have 2 year old that likes standing on the seats with his shoes and the rest of his crap

Pics???

A6S
14-12-2015, 10:27 PM
Pics???

Will try and get some tomorrow In the daylight.

Dave fitch
14-12-2015, 11:02 PM
I really fancied an Ibis white, black edition but couldn't get my head around white with lunar interior and the lunar interior won the contest.
I am very pleased that it did, it looks absolutely fantastic makes the car look a million dollars and the higher quality leather is dead easy to clean, I too haven't found anything that didn't just wipe off with a damp cloth.
Having said that no one should try to kid themselves that it needs more care so if you are lazy in that way then stick to black but if you are prepared to give twenty minutes a week to give the seats a wipe you will be well rewarded I have had numerous "bet this cost a fortune" and "looks superb" comments

L3nnox
14-12-2015, 11:54 PM
Hmmmm, I'm defo on the fence here?!?! My neighbours car pool 2015 272 BE with black leather looked so much nicer than the wife's 2014 as-line with the same seats?!?

But I really fancy these especially as we do holiday in France in Summer and black seats = trying to find a tree to hide the car under... [emoji848]

A6S
15-12-2015, 10:45 AM
Pics???

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a261/black_atr/77C4DDEE-C93C-42F6-BB20-7EE47C7E473E.jpg (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/black_atr/media/77C4DDEE-C93C-42F6-BB20-7EE47C7E473E.jpg.html)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a261/black_atr/6BB7C6F2-08DC-48D6-948F-82AC6511D825.jpg (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/black_atr/media/6BB7C6F2-08DC-48D6-948F-82AC6511D825.jpg.html)

L3nnox
15-12-2015, 06:07 PM
Cheers A6S looks nice but I think I need to see it in the flesh, worried it looks like the BMW light grey you got on the M3 and that was nasty over time.....

Here, if they make this I will be looking for one of these in 2 years time!!!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/15/46726d6f1f203bed251be828b80d4ef2.jpg

L3nnox
03-03-2016, 08:51 AM
To keep this thread updated the final decision was.......

A6 BITDI Black edition
- added heated seats
- full debadged
- black exterior
- black interior

Get it the end of May, in time for our France road trip. Now just figuring out the following (if you have not seen the threads):
- gap ins.... Not sure if I need this?!?
- badging (none or euro model V6T badges - ordered but not sure if I will fit them)
- roof rails and box
- DTUK box, prob after a few thousand miles
- exhaust acoustic plug in, love the idea of S6 noise with 40 mpg
- paint protection, looked at wrapping it or using


Weird that the insurance quote for this is less, granted I'm hitting that magic age and 3 points fell off, might just have something to do with it.

Cannot wait!!!