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stevo16
01-07-2015, 08:28 PM
Right my key got stuck in the ignition once again,if I re sync the key in the ignition by pressing unlock button the key will then release ,but I can then put the key in the ignition two more times before it does not release again .also the key fob will only unlock the doors but fob flashes rapidly when I press the lock button and does not lock it I have to sync both keys to get them to work again but when the key gets stuck in the ignition again the fob will locking the doors again so have to sync all over again . I can lock and unlock with the key in the door so no problem there.plus when key gets stuck and fobs won't work get message on dash screen saying right brake light bulb is out and as soon as I sync keys it stops showing up.any ideas people.

Guest 2
01-07-2015, 08:32 PM
Start with a fault scan with VCDS.

stevo16
01-07-2015, 09:02 PM
I post the scan results in a mo Chris

Guest 2
01-07-2015, 09:16 PM
Make sure you clear and rescan.

stevo16
01-07-2015, 09:50 PM
here you go ,got a few other probs on it if anyone want to chip in on resolving them.

Wednesday,01,July,2015,14:48:46:30570
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140905




VIN: WAUZZZ4F05N121036 License Plate: TODAY 1 2015
Mileage: 214560km-133321mi Repair Order:






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Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 11 31 15 16 17 19 1E 37 42 46 47 4F
52 53 56 61 62 72 76


VIN: WAUZZZ4F05N121036 Mileage: 214560km/133321miles


00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
11-Engine II -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
31-Engine other -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 059-907-401-ASB.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 401 A HW: 4F0 907 401 B
Component: 3.0L V6TDI A000AG 0020
Revision: --H01--- Serial number:
Coding: 0011372
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: 1A3DA22AD5E8D3CE759-804F


2 Faults Found:
005715 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
P1653 - 002 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 214504 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.03
Time: 20:06:33


Freeze Frame:
RPM: 903 /min
Torque: 70.2 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 11.70 V
Bin. Bits: 00110100
Torque: 276.9 Nm


006217 - Please check DTC Memory of Transmission Controller
P1849 - 008 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 214504 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.11
Time: 18:27:30


Freeze Frame:
RPM: 63 /min
Torque: 218.4 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
(no units): 0.0
Voltage: 5.24 V
Torque: 1035.3 Nm


Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0


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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 156 H HW: 09L 927 156
Component: AG6 09L 3.0lTDI RdW 0110
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 285988E29B84715EF3D-807D


1 Fault Found:
18289 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message
P1881 - 001 - Acceleration Request
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.24
Time: 20:52:46


Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
RPM: 0 /min
RPM: 0 /min
(no units): 30.0
(no units): 25.0
Temperature: 58.0°C
T.B. Angle: 0.0°




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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 L HW: 4F0 614 517 L
Component: ESP 8.0 quattro H03 0090
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0020876
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2D5779F6B466547600B-8078


1 Fault Found:
02083 - Message for Delay Request
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 96
Mileage: 214569 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.07.01
Time: 14:22:03


Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x00A2
Hex Value: 0x002B
Hex Value: 0x0595
Hex Value: 0x00FF




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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 HW: 4F0 905 852 B
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H30 0220
Revision: 31050601 Serial number: 10600300161808
Coding: 0000023
Shop #: WSC 00029 210 86049
VCID: E3C35FCE2222520666F-80B6


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H44 0070


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H39 0040


3 Faults Found:
02639 - Antenna Reader for Keyless Access Authorization
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 95
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.24
Time: 20:52:50


00230 - Transmission Park Selector Switch (F305)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 96
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.24
Time: 20:52:51


00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 95
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.24
Time: 20:53:44




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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
Part No SW: 4F1 910 732 D HW: 4E0 035 729
Component: Interfacebox H43 5570
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 392DP057525074
Coding: 0010003
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 254781D6EC966C36C8B-8070


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 B
Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H03 0010


Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000133667


Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0101.04.050000000100010445˙


Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010445˙


1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 95
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.24
Time: 20:52:46




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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 HW: 4F2 820 043 C
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH11 0150
Revision: 00000025 Serial number: 00000000136925
Coding: 0003190
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: DBB3672E1A526AC62EF-808E


1 Fault Found:
01207 - Control Module for Auxiliary Heater (J364)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 95
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.24
Time: 20:52:51


Freeze Frame:
ON




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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 B HW: 4F0 907 279 B
Component: ILM Fahrer H14 0080
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0000101
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 285988E29B84715EF3D-807D


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F2 910 113 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AudiC6 H04 0150
Coding: 00062736
Shop #: WSC 02335


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050
Coding: 00141886
Shop #: WSC 02335


No fault code found.


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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F HW: 4E0 035 111 A
Component: CD-Changer H44 0470
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ5ZBE7185090
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1C31A432DFDCADFE675-8049


No fault code found.


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 C HW: 4F0 959 655 B
Component: 3E AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0230
Revision: 06H29000 Serial number: 0037LD06TYWG
Coding: 0013125
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 275B8BDE969A7E26FA7-8072


Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332CSME09640F0E9


Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342CSME097E0B036


Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME072E037FF


Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME067754254


Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6371VSME06656172G


Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 6381VSME066F1A2C-


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 HW: 4F0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H07 0230
Revision: 00H07000 Serial number: 90026051090176
Coding: 0102141
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: E6C546DAD110272E811-80B3


Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H07 0080


No fault code found.


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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 930 A HW: 4F0 920 980 M
Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H15 0630
Revision: 01000000 Serial number: 4PX312L45
Coding: 2049403
Shop #: WSC 54064 067 57207
VCID: 214F95C6F8BE8016B43-8074


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4F0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A HW: 4F0 907 468 D
Component: Gateway H10 0060
Revision: 10 Serial number: 120080542381A2
Coding: ECFED3C43B2104
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 275B8BDE969A7E26FA7-8072


2 Faults Found:
01342 - Engine Control Module 2 (Slave 1)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 95
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.24
Time: 20:52:47


02077 - Media Player Position 2 (R119)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 95
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.24
Time: 20:53:46




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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 887 Q HW: 4E0 919 887 C
Component: MNS ECE H44 0850
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 305DN057590850
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 3B7347AE7A12CAC68EF-806E


No fault code found.


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B HW: 4F0 959 793 B
Component: TSG FA H11 0040
Revision: 00-00000
Coding: 0002682
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 295F8DE6808E4856EC3-807C


No fault code found.


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 E HW: 4F0 907 289 E
Component: Komfortgeraet H15 0100
Revision: 01000015 Serial number: 01003890990000
Coding: 0002555
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 2C5174F28F7C5D7E175-8079


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020


6 Faults Found:
02741 - Bulb for Tail Light 2; Right
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 81
Reset counter: 135
Mileage: 214504 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.11
Time: 17:40:11


02739 - Bulb for Tail/Brake Light; Right
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 135
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.25
Time: 12:09:24


02738 - Bulb for Tail/Brake Light; Left
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 135
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.25
Time: 12:09:24


02740 - Bulb for Tail Light 2; Left
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 135
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.25
Time: 12:09:24


02737 - Bulb for Tail/Fog Light; Right
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 19
Reset counter: 96
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.25
Time: 12:24:05


01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X)
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 135
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.25
Time: 12:26:18




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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4F0-910-223-AS.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 G HW: 4F0 035 223
Component: Amp.-ASK H09 0350
Revision: 19S00001 Serial number: 02404050088648
Coding: 0000013
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 224D9ACAFDB89B0EAD9-8077


1 Fault Found:
02454 - Microphone Unit (in Front Roof Module) (R164)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 43
Reset counter: 96
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.24
Time: 20:52:50




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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H10 0050
Revision: Serial number: 00000000087648
Coding: 0001103
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: DEB56E3A09407FEE491-808B


No fault code found.


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B HW: 4F0 959 792 B
Component: TSG BF H11 0040
Revision: 00-00000
Coding: 0002682
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 295F8DE6808E4856EC3-807C


No fault code found.


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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 HW: 4F0 907 801
Component: EPB C63C0030 H03 0030
Revision: C63C0030
Coding: 0000321
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: DDB76936044664F650B-8088


No fault code found.


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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T HW: 4F0 035 541 B
Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 394DY057541866
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 316F6586A85E3096243-8064


No fault code found.


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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: ENERGIEMANAGER H12 0490
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000026405
Shop #: WSC 23352 823 63062
VCID: 23439FCEE2A29206A6F-8076


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 DL
Component: von VA0 311217H14Q
Coding: 344630393135313035444C56413033313132313748313451
Shop #: WSC 23352 823 63062


1 Fault Found:
02256 - Quiescent Current
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 136
Mileage: 214553 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.06.25
Time: 05:11:56




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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 HW: 4F0 959 795
Component: TSG HL H11 0030
Coding: 0002090
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: E9DF4DE6C00E0856AC3-80BC


No fault code found.


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 HW: 4F0 959 794
Component: TSG HR H11 0030
Coding: 0002090
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: E9DF4DE6C00E0856AC3-80BC


No fault code found.


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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 A HW: 4F0 919 283 A
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0030
Revision: 06.02.48 Serial number: 00067811820510
Coding: 0001106
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 224D9ACAFDB89B0EAD9-8077


No fault code found.


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MarkTM
02-07-2015, 07:44 AM
And when you clear them they all reappear again?

I had the problem with the key getting stuck and being unable to lock the car, worrying as it was in Glasgow 2yrs back when parked on public roads :aargh4:

Used a paperclip to remove key by inserting in the little hole located at 8pm on the ignition surround, the problem has never arisen since...but I always carry a paperclip in the car now!

Did the problems first arise at 8.52pm on 24th June, if so had you made any changes to the car (e.g. changed a battery etc)?

One thing I have found is that if your alternator is producing too much voltage systems will shut down to protect themselves from damage (as had a different fault that required my alternator to be refurbished last year)

stevo16
02-07-2015, 12:29 PM
the battery in the boot kept going dead over night thats when the dreaded stuck in ignition started but still locked/unlocked with fob ok.so got another battery.Changed battery to 100a 850ah varta ,coded it .Thats when it started not locking with fob and key still stuck.Funny thing is once the fob is resynced again the get releases from ignition and after the second go of putting the key in it sticks again this happens on the second go everytime after fob reprogramed. Also back right brake light will work again until fob plays silly buggers and stops just flashes then warning light on dash telling me bulb out.

stevo16
02-07-2015, 03:09 PM
and now the rear fog light came up on dash ,put new bulb in nothing what the hell.

MarkTM
02-07-2015, 03:26 PM
Did you have the outgoing battery tested? How old was it?

I replaced my old battery which it turned out was perfect and the fault was caused by a duff regulator on my alternator which was charging at too high a rate, the battery protection bit was stopping it from getting overcharged...which meant it wasn't charging properly.

stevo16
02-07-2015, 11:16 PM
dont think anything wrong with the old battery but coding was wrong for it plus it was a 90a 750ah should be 100a 950ah so battery manager was getting all confused.Getting really fed up with it now.

MarkTM
03-07-2015, 07:52 AM
dont think anything wrong with the old battery but coding was wrong for it plus it was a 90a 750ah should be 100a 950ah so battery manager was getting all confused. Getting really fed up with it now.

Stevo, it really depends on the battery coding on your data sticker in the boot area

For example J0Z = Battery 520 A (110 Ah/ 920 CCA)

I think I've seen some 2.0 that use a 90Ah and most 3.0 use the above.

Don't think I've seen a 100/950 used when I search the forum under 'battery'

stevo16
03-07-2015, 04:11 PM
mine is a J0Z and i stand corrected my new battery is a 110ah /920 CCA .Dont ask me where i got the other figures from my bad.

stevo16
04-07-2015, 04:43 PM
I Think it's all pointing towards the comfort control unit on the right hand side in the boot.If I was to get one would it be a problem if the letter on the end of the unit was different as mine ends in E and found a couple on eBay ending in G but same numbers .does this mean it from a later car or totally different set up.

c4a5er
04-07-2015, 05:17 PM
The letter on the end can be crucial. The different revisions of control units can differ in ability to perform certain functions. Yes it denotes a later revision but I wouldn't like to say whether later means simply more functions or whether there is any likelyhood of earlier functions not being present. You probably need to research compatibility and make comparisons between the control units you see for sale.