Looking for someone in UK to do Mr muscle trick on my turbo

[Lee Rees]

Hi guys.

I'm looking for someone in the UK to do the Mr Muscle trick on my turbo 1.9 tdi 130bhp a4 b6.

Basically removing the exhaust hot side from the turbo and spraying it in. I've already tried going the route where the egr connects but that didn't work.

I've spoke to 4 garages and all say the Mr muscle trick will only work if you spray it into the hot side of the turbo.

I'm hoping as this is an enthusiast forum that some one here might be up for helping me out. Just reply below how much you'd want for doing this and your location. I travel all over the uk so happy to bring my car to you. I guess the main issue would be undoing the exhaust. As I don't have the tools I didn't attempt it.

Turbo error code is p1557. All 4 garages suspect sticky vnt vanes.

[zollaf]

mr muscle, innotec or any other cleaners may do a limited amount of good, but will never work properly, limp mode will always come back. its not much more labour to remove the turbo and actually clean it manually. i use a penetrating oil called cyclo breakaway and a selection of stiff brushes.
or remove it, send it to turbo tecnics and re fit when its returned.

[Doctle Odd]

Hi guys.

I'm looking for someone in the UK to do the Mr Muscle trick on my turbo 1.9 tdi 130bhp a4 b6.

Basically removing the exhaust hot side from the turbo and spraying it in. I've already tried going the route where the egr connects but that didn't work.

I've spoke to 4 garages and all say the Mr muscle trick will only work if you spray it into the hot side of the turbo.

I'm hoping as this is an enthusiast forum that some one here might be up for helping me out. Just reply below how much you'd want for doing this and your location. I travel all over the uk so happy to bring my car to you. I guess the main issue would be undoing the exhaust. As I don't have the tools I didn't attempt it.

Turbo error code is p1557. All 4 garages suspect sticky vnt vanes.

Ever used Mr Muscle? You spray it on let it sit then scrub it. Your turbo has to come off to try cleaning it you don't need a lot of tools. Spraying anything into an engine is a bad idea and anyway the sticky vanes aren't on the hot side. Check all the pipes 1st and replace the N75

[pauldazzle]

I've done the MR Muscle fix on a few peoples VAG 1.9tdi's in the past, & it's always worked.
This method works for me. Remove EGR pipe then use a length of windscreen washer pipe to feed down the hole into the turbo, & make sure the pipe has a good seal onto the MR Muscle nozzle or it'll go everywhere. Spray the cleaner in until it's visable at the EGR hole, & leave it in for at least 90 mins while working the turbo actuator every 10/15 mins or so until it feels smooth & has full travel. (remove the vacuum pipe from the top of the actuator while your doing this}
Did my A4 about 40k ago & never had an overboost problem since.

[Lee Rees]

I've done the MR Muscle fix on a few peoples VAG 1.9tdi's in the past, & it's always worked.
This method works for me. Remove EGR pipe then use a length of windscreen washer pipe to feed down the hole into the turbo, & make sure the pipe has a good seal onto the MR Muscle nozzle or it'll go everywhere. Spray the cleaner in until it's visable at the EGR hole, & leave it in for at least 90 mins while working the turbo actuator every 10/15 mins or so until it feels smooth & has full travel. (remove the vacuum pipe from the top of the actuator while your doing this}
Did my A4 about 40k ago & never had an overboost problem since.

I tried this, the turbo started spinning and worked for a bit, about 10 minutes and then went into limp mode. About a week later and the turbo never really works at all unless its very cold then it might work for a minute, either way the car goes into limp mode after i hit 70mph. I did the Mr Muscle trick through the EGR hole 3 times now, maybe I'm doing something wrong but I don't think so, there was loads of smoke when I started it. I also cleaned out the EGR valve itself.

My car has done 160K miles.

One thing i didn't do was remove the vacuum pipe whilst pumping the actuator. I remember it was quite hard to move and I had sore fingers afterwards, it never really got easier to move it.

I really am at my wits end with this and hope someone can advise me, it would be a shame to scrap this car but I can't see any cheap way round this. The cheapest I've been quoted for a rebuilt turbo is £800 supply and fit.

[Lee Rees]

Ever used Mr Muscle? You spray it on let it sit then scrub it. Your turbo has to come off to try cleaning it you don't need a lot of tools. Spraying anything into an engine is a bad idea and anyway the sticky vanes aren't on the hot side. Check all the pipes 1st and replace the N75

Where are the vanes located? I was told they are on the hot side, as in the part of the turbo that connects to the exhaust.

How do I remove the turbo without a ramp? there is a bolt underneath and I'm going to need a breaker bar / cheater bar to undo the bolt as it's seized.

Garages are quoting in the region of £200 labour just to remove the turbo. Basically I'm looking for the help of another Audi enthusiast on here that fancies earning a bit of cash.

Already replaced pipes and N75 btw.

[Lee Rees]

Can anybody help with this. I've been searching online for a few months now to no avail. Someone said about boost hoses but I don't know what one to replace. I did take it into a garage again for a £25 check to see if it was the turbo. He then said he will need to replace the turbo to see if it works. I get the feeling this is a common scam amongst garages. Would no turbo sound at all be a faulty turbo or hoses? Of its hoses does anybody have a guide that shows where they are located?

[Doctle Odd]

Change your garage if that's the depth of his knowledge of cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbUAfzi5BdM

[Crasher]

It is a waste of time and yes it HAS to be sprayed into the hot side, pointless doing it anywhere else. I have seen a number of them now where doing this has damaged the turbine seal and poured oil into the exhaust which is a complete pain to get out. One of these was one of my mechanics on his own car who was trying to avoid doing the job properly and ended up spending hours flushing out his exhaust system AND having the turbo rebuilt.

[zollaf]

by the time you have messed about burning everything in sight with mr muscle, its just as easy to pull the turbo off and either rebild or replace it. and if you actually take one apart you will see why mr muscle is a placebo.

[Crasher]

by the time you have messed about burning everything in sight with mr muscle, its just as easy to pull the turbo off and either rebild or replace it. and if you actually take one apart you will see why mr muscle is a placebo.

And the A4 is one of the easiest turbo's to get off, it isn't as if it is buried down the back of the engine.

[zollaf]

but still people will pee about for days with mr muscle.

[green A8]

I tried the very similar nasty spray stuff and in all honesty it was quicker and easier to whip the damn turbo off and do the job properly. Which is exatly what I ended up doing.

I can't understand what all the fuss is about, actually cleaning the carbon deposits off the effected area is easy, if not childs play. I suppose it could be fear of the unknown. I put the skill level needed to remove, strip and re-build then reinstall the turbo to be on a par with changing the spark plugs on my A8 4.2 ABZ. I've even managed to re-build a couple of turbos, both of which still continue to operate, again I thought it would be very difficult. Not so given a bit of logic and forward planning it's pretty straightforward.

[JimC64]

but still people will pee about for days with mr muscle.

Just personally, I'm not a huge fan of these types of "fixes"

I know we all have different budgets, but imo its a case of biting the bullet and doing it right, obviously as cheaply as possible

Good luck OP, Hope all goes well