Instrument Cluster in MMI menu greyd?

[tomaslund]

Hi guys,

I have a problem with the Instrument Cluster menu in the MMI unit, it is greyd out and I cannot enter it.

Anyone have an idea of what could be wrong, maybe some VCDS programming?

Car info edit;

A6 c6 2009 2.0 tdi 170hp with MMI 3G but red DIS with computer (showing standard screen with fuel range)

I see that I have a small 1 top left of fuel range also.

Regards,
Tomas:dunno:

[MarkTM]

Tomas

You have to be specific.

1) Has it always been the same?
2) How long ago did it start?
3) Have you had any recent work done on your car?
4) Do you have VCDS?
5) Does your radio/CD player work?

Typically if greyed out you don't have those options, if all of it is and wasn't previously sounds like a major fault but nothing that'll affect it being driven.

Mark

[tomaslund]

Hi mark!

I didn't have it before, trying to retrofit.

Maybe missed something in VCDS?

Did the coding part in 17 and steering wheel, haven't done any adaption tho. .but activated instrument cluster in hidden menu.

Regards

[B5NUT]

MMI 2G or 3G?

[tomaslund]

3g

[B5NUT]

I take it you have replaced the can-gateway, and removed all the component protection. I've also retrofited MMI 3G into my A6 and the instrument cluster option works fine. So it must be down to a coding issue on one of the modules. Can you post a VCDS scan of your car.

[tomaslund]

I haven't retro fitted 3G only DIS :)

[tomaslund]

Everything works fine, except instrument cluster menu... don't have access to PC right now :(

[B5NUT]

I take it you have gone from the red DIS to colour.

[tomaslund]

Not even that, just put the stalk in with reset button 😄 had the stalk without before.

I have the red DIS, but the colour radio MMI 3G, and just trying to retrofit the stalk :)

Programming done in VCDS is instrument coding and steering wheel, but haven't done any adaption tho because don't know which channel etc..

Maybe that's what's wrong, don't you think? [emoji15]

[MarkTM]

Tomas, please don't rely on others being psychic or having read your previous threads, state the full facts up front, otherwise it just wastes everyone's time:(

You definitely purchased the one with computer control? If state your year and engine size and perhaps forum members with the same can offer there coding for you to try...although I appreciate there may be small 'country specific' variants due to most forum members being UK based.

[tomaslund]

MarkTM, yeah sorry about that. Multi tasking when posting does not end up that we'll. Will update my first post with car info.

A6 c6 2009 2.0 tdi 170hp with MMI 3G but red DIS with computer (showing standard screen with fuel range)

I see that I have a small 1 top left of fuel range also.

[B5NUT]

To be fair I'm a bit shocked on this one, it's the first time I've ever hear of an A6 without full DIS, I didn't even know it was an option. In the UK I think you either got full red DIS or colour. That's why I wrongly assumed you retrofitted MMI 3G...

I take it you can now switch between computer 1 & 2 and see all the other options in the DIS?

[tomaslund]

I know it's..

Yeah, just the Instrument Cluster menu that doesn't work, so I can't change the info 😕

[B5NUT]

So you cannot switch between the computers using the stalk?

[tomaslund]

Exactemento

[B5NUT]

Well it sound like the steering wheel control module is not correct, on the A4 there were highline and lowline versions, lowline not having the DIS option (not sure if that is applicable on the A6) what is the part number of your steering wheel control module, you can find that information using vcds.

[tomaslund]

I will look into this when I got time, lot on my plate right now lol. But when coding in VCDS I get what is installed, and the steering wheel module was programmable to use the DIS comp, but still my question is do I need to change any adaption channel in Instrument or SteeringWheel or is it enough with only programming? Because if it is only programming I might need to check the functionality of the stalk since I bought it used from a crashed car. But first I want to correctly program everything and see if it works. :)

You have any idea? Is it the same programming of Adaption as for A4 found in the thread which explains retrofit DIS & Cruisecontrol on A4?

Kind Regards,
Tomas

[B5NUT]

No idea bout the adaption as it's not listed on the ross tech wiki. So as long as you have changed the coding Audi A6 (4F) Steering Wheel Electronics - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A6_(4F)_Steering_Wheel_Electronics#Coding) then it should work, but the module may except the coding but the software to run the DIS my not be present in your module.

[gupsterg]

Steering elec.module only one type, item 4 this diagram Link:- AUDI A6/AVANT [A6] (EUROPE) 2009: ELECTRICS: 95350. STEERING COLUMN SWITCH; AND TRIM (http://www.partsbase.org/audi/audi-a6-avant-a6-eu-2009-95350-steering-column-switch-and-trim/)

Now when you say I enabled via hidden menu car you post screen shots of what you did?

In hidden menu select car, then carmenuoperation, for instrument cluster do you have a 5 there?

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=25941&stc=1

[tomaslund]

Maybe I need to update MMI version??

Gupsterg, yes it is set to 5 in hidden menu.. :/

[B5NUT]

It's not just the MMI that is not working as, he states he cannot switch between the dis options using the stalk. #15 & #16

[B5NUT]

Maybe I need to update MMI version??

All versions of the MMI 3G software be it the HDD or the DVD version support DIS.

[gupsterg]

It's not just the MMI that is not working as, he states he cannot switch between the dis options using the stalk. #15 & #16

Yes I understand, I was just trying to findout what the car menu operation was set to :).

So there is no differing version of steering elec.module so all must support stalk/coding change for DIS?

There is no differing stalks, we know that in the 2009-11 range the standard A6 (the model below SE) with MMI 3G Radio plus does have stalk with DIS function as there are UK cars with it.

I've also checked PR codes relating to instrument clusters and all support onboard/check control.

So Thomas in CAR > CARDEVICELIST > On Board Computer is checked?

[B5NUT]

If all the coding is correct the only thing I can think of is there is a lowline factory SCSM and if you have to replace this module you get the model listed in etka (complete wild guess) as for some reason neither the MMI or the stork can communicate to the DIS.

Without a scan of the car I'm now stumped.:confused:

[tomaslund]

Gup, on board is not checked! But isn't that for the display of Climate settings, that one I don't have. Basic turner wheels to adjust climate.

I will try to get a scan as soon as I can, but won't be until the weekend I guess. :(

[gupsterg]

AFAIK

carmenuoperation is for selection of menus/how/when displayed
cardevicelist is what installed

air condition refers to climate control

Please check onboard computer and reboot MMI and report back.

[tomaslund]

Gupsterg , couldn't find any on board computer just something called "bord computer" the exact spelling.

This is weird I will post a scan soon

[tomaslund]

ssis Type: 4F (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 20 42 46 4F 52 53 55 56 5F 62
69 72 76


VIN: WAUZZZ4F19N058275 Mileage: 122100km/75869miles


01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAHA) Labels: 03L-906-022-CAG.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 022 FH HW: 03L 906 022 FG
Component: R4 2,0L EDC H01 6418
Revision: 11H01--- Serial number:
Coding: 010D002C02072920
Shop #: WSC 40204 222 97124
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI03L906022FH A01009
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI03L906019AH.rod
VCID: 70E5C880AB5DD29E643-8025


1 Fault Found:
7140 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [032] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0


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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01J-927-156.lbl
Part No SW: 4F9 910 155 D HW: 01J 927 156 JG
Component: V30 0AN 2.0l CR RdW 0010
Revision: --H05--- Serial number: 00000000000468
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 2C5D1CF08FF5F67E18B-8079


No fault code found.


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AK HW: 4F0 614 517 AT
Component: ESP8 front H03 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0004476
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 6DDBD1F4746F3F764F5-8038


No fault code found.


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B HW: 4F0 905 852 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H05 0100
Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 10602601306652
Coding: 0000131
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 254BE9D4EC1FC736C75-8070


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H03 0020


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01 0040


No fault code found.


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 HW: 4F1 820 043 AA
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH20 0170
Revision: 00000033 Serial number: 00000000622815
Coding: 0000276
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: DBBF0F2C1ADBC1C6211-808E


No fault code found.


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 N HW: 4F0 907 279
Component: ILM Fahrer H22 0320
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0003222
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 346D049057C5AEBE40B-8061


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 D Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AudiC6 H10 0040
Coding: 00056595
Shop #: WSC 02335


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003
Coding: 00146221
Shop #: WSC 02335


No fault code found.


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 4F0-910-655-10.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 L HW: 4F0 959 655 E
Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0090
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003CH004EXTQ
Coding: 30314236303630303031554A304C34463053
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
VCID: 306508806BDD929E243-8065


Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
Serial number: 3574SRB400008B20FABH


Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side:
Serial number: 3584SRB400008B213AC8


Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side:
Serial number: 35152RB402J7V8VGURKY


Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side:
Serial number: 35252RB402L7V8VGMKBD


Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:
Serial number: 3554NRB400004B14907W


Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side:
Serial number: 3564NRB400004B13CEED


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A HW: 4F0 953 549 D
Component: J0527 0530
Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 90026090960219
Coding: 0002042
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 2757E3DC9613D526F59-8072


Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 H02 0030


1 Fault Found:
00888 - Wiper Switch for Intermittent Operation (E22)
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 182
Mileage: 121595 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.10.17
Time: 19:35:07




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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 920 901 J HW: 4F0 920 901 J
Component: KOMBIINSTR. H06 0135
Revision: 00100000 Serial number: ADR05ZY39
Coding: 0F57110502000408010100
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 2953E5E44007E356E3D-807C


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 4F0-907-468.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 L HW: 4F0 907 468 G
Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H06 0025
Revision: 4MA90025 Serial number: 2500M093318161
Coding: 000303
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 387530A08BAD4ADE6C3-806D


Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C HW: 8K0 915 181 C
Component: J367-BDM H07 0107


No fault code found.


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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844) Labels: 8K0-857-511.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 857 511 H HW: 4F0 857 511 G
Component: FLA H04 0003
Revision: AA001002
Coding: 02010464747464545425363E
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 2D5B11F474EFFF760F5-8078


No fault code found.


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 4F0-959-793.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R HW: 8K0 959 793 D
Component: TSG FA H11 0250
Revision: Serial number: 0000100942096
Coding: 011C06204040410001
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 46894E58F1592C2EEEF-8013


No fault code found.


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 J HW: 4F0 907 289 J
Component: Komfortgeraet H27 0220
Revision: 02200027 Serial number: 01179761440000
Coding: 0197361
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 31630D84A8D79B962BD-8064


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020


No fault code found.


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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H13 0100
Revision: Serial number: 00000000626601
Coding: 0001104
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: DEB9063809C9D4EE46F-808B


No fault code found.


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 4F0-959-792.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R HW: 8K0 959 792 D
Component: TSG BF H11 0250
Revision: Serial number: 0000100930971
Coding: 011C06204040410001
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 458B4954CC5F2736E75-8010


1 Fault Found:
00920 - Heated Outside Mirrors; Driver Side (Z4) / Passenger Side (Z5)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 49
Reset counter: 191
Mileage: 120850 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.10.10
Time: 14:31:52




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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D HW: 4F0 907 801 B
Component: EPB CEFC0090 H05 0090
Revision: --H05---
Coding: 0000131
Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
VCID: 2143FDC4F8372B16BBD-8074


No fault code found.


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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
Part No: 8P0 907 357 H
Component: Dynamische LWR H02 0010
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 3F875BBC6E837DE6AD9-806A


No fault code found.


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Address 56: Radio (R) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 035 056 B HW: 4F0 035 056
Component: Radio U STD H45 0020
Revision: AB001007 Serial number: 342D0097594984
Coding: 010003020100000000
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 1F47FB3C0E431DE68D9-804A


No fault code found.


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 035 646 B HW: 4E0 035 646
Component: B-B-ER H51 0040
Revision: -------- Serial number: 348D-097523376
Coding: 01010001020282CD01000705EF6300000200
Shop #: WSC 40350 222 91638
VCID: 234FF7CC222B3906A91-8076


Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4L0 919 604 HW: 4L0 919 604
Component: DU6 Basic H43 0306


Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 609 E HW: 4F1 919 611 M
Component: Bedienteil MM H01 0060


No fault code found.


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels: 4F0-959-795.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M HW: 8K0 959 795 B
Component: TSG HL H10 0251
Revision: Serial number: 0000100961246
Coding: 010804204040220001
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 438F574CC26B1906C91-8016


No fault code found.


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Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels: 4F0-907-383.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 907 383 D HW: 4F0 907 383 D
Component: Anhaenger H08 0080
Revision: 2B002002 Serial number: 00000117584587
Coding: 0103030000000000
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 2C5D1CF04FF5F67E18B-8079


No fault code found.


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels: 4F0-959-795.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M HW: 8K0 959 795 B
Component: TSG HR H10 0251
Revision: Serial number: 0000100951741
Coding: 010804204040220001
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 438F574CC26B1906C91-8016


No fault code found.


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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 283 B HW: 4L0 919 283 B
Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H02 0500
Revision: 00H02000 Serial number: 12330910003494
Coding: 0211016
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 2953E5E48007E356E3D-807C


No fault code found.


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[gupsterg]

Gupsterg , couldn't find any on board computer just something called "bord computer" the exact spelling.

bord computer is onboard computer.

[tomaslund]

Ok well i tried to activate it in both menus but it was still greyd after reboot :/

[gupsterg]

Sorry all out of ideas :Blush2: , if the VCDS lead is genuine you maybe able to get help from Ross Tech, they give good support info via email or register on the Ross Tech Forum and post thread.


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A HW: 4F0 953 549 D
Component: J0527 0530
Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 90026090960219
Coding: 0002042
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 2757E3DC9613D526F59-8072


Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 H02 0030


1 Fault Found:
00888 - Wiper Switch for Intermittent Operation (E22)
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 182
Mileage: 121595 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.10.17
Time: 19:35:07




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Does this DTC clear or keep coming back?

[tomaslund]

Wow haven't even seen that one... probably new after changing the stalk. Might be the problem?? Will try to reset the dtc and see if it works, otherwise the stalk is crap I guess?

[B5NUT]

The fault above has only appeared once, so clear the fault and see if it comes back.

Have you coded your instrument cluster? Looking at the ross-tech site that also requires coding.

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CodingThe following coding options should give you an overview about the available settings, due to different control modules and equipment in the car the actual choices may differ for the specific model you are working on and the Long Coding Assistant present the right choices for you.


Functions

Gauge Test/Needle Sweep active
Driver Information System (DIS) active
Lap Timer active

[gupsterg]

In earlier post Thomas stated he'd coded steering and ins.cluster that's why I started querying 5F setup.

Perhaps the wiper DTC is red herring, but like u say he's gotta clear and check again.

Thomas do all the functions on wiper stalk after DTC clear, then rescan. You can check measuring blocks in steering module for functionality of stalk.

Link:- http://www.audi-portal.com/en/diagnostic/ecu_12550.html#1

[tomaslund]

I've coded 17, 16 and 5F.

Will try to reset dtc and see if it comes back. But in this stage I probably think the stalk is broken some how, it's bought of a crashed car so there is no guarantee of fully working. ://

[gupsterg]

Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A HW: 4F0 953 549 D
Component: J0527 0530
Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 90026090960219
Coding: 0002042

So your coding for module 16 breakdown

0 X X X X X X : Blank
X 0 X X X X X : Left-hand drive
X X 0 X X X X : Without electrical steering column adjustment and/or with manual steering column adjustment, without lane keeping assistant
X X X 2 0 X X : Multi-function steering wheel (no Tiptronic on steering wheel, not heated)
X X X X X 4 X : On-board computer, CCS
X X X X X X 2 : Avant (rear window wiper)

Module 17 & 5F long coding I have no info to double check :Blush2: , perhaps you can post so screen shots of long coding helper or you can use FastStone capture to do screen video.

[B5NUT]

In earlier post Thomas stated he'd coded steering and ins.cluster that's why I started querying 5F setup.

Sorry I missed that.

I'm stumped on this one. It's strange that neither the stork or the MMI can control/access the DIS, as my car is a pre-facelift I cannot check the coding, and the VCDS label files are now encrypted so it's difficult to check to see if there are any adaptation that could help. Is there anything in the can-gateway we could have missed?

You could contact ross-tech they may be able to help.

[tomaslund]

It's super weird, I mean I should be able to use instrument cluster in MMI even if the stalk is broken, wouldn't I?

For the A4 B6 &b7 you need to do adaption in 17 channel 19, but this is only remote clock in c6 :/

Also there's no adaption for bord comp in 17 -instruments.

😴😴😴🐼

[tomaslund]

Regarding support from Ross - tech I can't get since I bought a used one :/

[B5NUT]

To get support on a used cable you have to pay a fee, I think it's $99.

I take it you have been into the measuring blocks on the steering wheel module to check the function of the stork.

[tomaslund]

Yeah I know , and I really don't feel like paying 99$ for one question :p

I think I did, will retry again and see. Delete dtc and retry measure block.. later today

[gupsterg]

... Is there anything in the can-gateway we could have missed?

I can't see any option relating to it in my coding, I know its not good comparative as MMI 2G car vs 3G but the CAN gateway is more concerned with modules IMO.

On here they do show 5F so if there was a MMI 3G differing option they would have it? Link:- http://www.audi-portal.com/en/diagnostic/ecu_12638.html#1


It's super weird, I mean I should be able to use instrument cluster in MMI even if the stalk is broken, wouldn't I?

Would have thought menu should work, sorry have not the experience to really say :Blush2:.


For the A4 B6 &b7 you need to do adaption in 17 channel 19, but this is only remote clock in c6 :/

On the 2004-08 A6 range it would have been a code change in modules 16 and 17 plus adaptation in module 07. In 2009-11 range module 07 don't exist in a manner of speaking and module 5F would be where change required.


Regarding support from Ross - tech I can't get since I bought a used one :/

When I registered on RT forum they verified only that it's a genuine cable by the serial/license key, click about button in VCDS.

[gupsterg]

Hi Thomas!

I may have solution to your problem! :beerchug: ...

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=26020&stc=1

I hope this helps :D , so access hidden menu, select car, select carprotocolswitch, then uncheck Bord computer ...

Please report back :) ...

[tomaslund]

Hu gup! So I need to disable it in hidden menu then what do I need to do in 5F ? Disable it there too?

Thank so much for helping me,

[gupsterg]

Do not change anything else in 5F via VCDS, only do the the hidden menu stuff as I've written in post 44.

I will explain after you report back.

Thanks.

[tomaslund]

Okej 😆

But it will need to be active in the other menu in hidden menu right ? Carmenuoperation?

[gupsterg]

You need coding in steering module which you have.

You need coding in instrument cluster which you have as you stated this.

Then in hidden menu you need:-

CAR > CARDEVICELIST > Bord Computer is checked that tell 5F you have onboard computer

CAR > CARMENUOPERATION > Instrument cluster set to 5 to make 5F show Instrument cluster menu

CAR > CARPROTOCOLSWITCH > Bord computer need to be unchecked or it grey out menu, got it from french audi forum.

What you're doing in hidden menu is what can be done via long coding of 5F in VCDS.

Here is image concerning 5F long coding.

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=26026&stc=1

[tomaslund]

It now works but only have speed warning

[gupsterg]

It maybe that the instrument cluster (module 17) need more coding.

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=26028&stc=1
The underlined bytes/bits caught my eye, can you check via VCDS what is in module 17 long coding, if you install even the free version of Link:- FastStoneCapture (http://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm) you can make a video of your VCDS screen and upload to youtube and post and members can view/comment.

[gupsterg]

Please read this thread carefully, looks like the steps I've outlined in post 48 is all that is required.

Original Swedish thread Link:- NA Forum - Där ser man. *** hade en meny som heter (http://www.nordicaudi.com/php/forum/showflat.php?d=f&Cat=&Board=A6mk2&Number=1196401&page=0&view=expanded&sb=9)

And translated one for all the rest of us! Link:- Google Translate (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&u=http://www.nordicaudi.com/php/forum/showflat.php%3Fd%3Df%26Cat%3D%26Board%3DA6mk2%26Nu mber%3D1196401%26page%3D0%26view%3Dexpanded%26sb%3 D9&prev=search)

Perhaps the stalk having a fault is creating issue but really don't know.

Did you do checks like highlighted in Link:- post 35 (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?161901-Instrument-Cluster-in-MMI-menu-greyd&p=927557#post927557)

[tomaslund]

Great help gupsterg!! Thanks a lot, I think I got a stick that's not working. I will talk to the vendor and see if I can change the stick, he told me they didn't know the functionality of the stalk since they just got it in from a crashed car.. got it cheap but will probably return it and get a tested one!

Thanks a lot man! I will do the last checks before returning.. measure, reset dtc and check long coding in 17. :) I'll tell you how it goes