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RichardSEL
20-10-2014, 06:34 AM
Do you know (or do you want the work) of anyone with one-car transporter to bring back car from Skive (Denmark) to Sudbury, Suffolk?
For a single transporter, or car with one car trailer, I will pay £800 (cash, notes, folding inc. cost of Derv) to bring a car back to UK.
Or I can hire single car transporter closest to where you start from and will pay £250 (+refund against Derv receipts, cash, say no more) to do the same job for driver.
Must collect this week or Monday 27th October at latest to load car and then return.
Cheapest route is via Harwich ---> Hook of Holland then up into Denmark. Or, if you're up that way, via Immingham to Esbjerg
The seller goes back to work in Africa 28th October so wants clearing by then
I've tried the usual agencies and did a booking last Thursday (and paid deposit) but seems driver is only getting there in time if he has a delivery to make en route. Not at all helpful
... it's not dead, it's just pining for the fjords :Blush2:
adamss24
20-10-2014, 10:45 AM
It's over 800 miles one way, it will cost £250 in fuel one way then another £300 return, ferry for car/van with trailer is about £200-250 so it's not much left for someone to even dream of going that way... Go get a trailer hired yourself and drive there or fly there and drive the car back if it's road worthy !
RichardSEL
20-10-2014, 12:07 PM
It's over 800 miles one way, it will cost £250 in fuel one way then another £300 return, ferry for car/van with trailer is about £200-250 so it's not much left for someone to even dream of going that way... Go get a trailer hired yourself and drive there or fly there and drive the car back if it's road worthy !
Total trip Tottenham - Harwich - Hook of Holland - Skive - Hook of Holland - Sudbury - Tottenham = 1300 miles
Return ferry cost is £208 (£602 on HGV ferry return Immingham - Esbjerg but far less miles!)
1,300 miles at 28mpg = 47 gall = 214 litres @£1.53/litre = £800 paid - (£328 + £250 for driver) gives a profit for someone of £222 !
Which is worth a hotel (nearest town is Skive, Best Western is £67 per night, meal, and some duty free)
Just don't know where you're getting your figures from. Due to my "condition" I can't handle junctions and other road junctions/instructions on the wrong side of the road. Would you believe the only place in UK to be taught LHD is Ulster?
Best rental I've found is (Tottenham) £98 per day for a single car low-loader + £0.09 each mile after 250. Which is why I'm offering
£250 for driver +re-imburse Derv costs and ferry cost if I have to hire
It's not road-worthy hence the post. Someone, even if working might be able to take Fri - Mon off and do it. Or put this to someone they know...
As Arfur Daley would say: "nice little earner"!
adamss24
21-10-2014, 10:44 AM
From my postcode which is N10 it's 815 miles to Skive according to AA route planner. You'll be very fortunate to do 28 Mpg with a trailer behind you, empty maybe but definitely not loaded ! I drive a c5 allroad tdi with a Ifor Williams trailer and have done many, many trips in Uk and continent and 1600 miles it's a very long trip when you're limited at 60Mph !
You can do abut 500 miles a day before you're completely knackered and it still takes 3 days to complete the journey + you need loads of hot beverages/energy drinks to keep your moral up !
If you think you can do it then by all means go for it, i doubt you will get someone to do it for you ! I know lorry drivers that take cars to eastern europe for £500 each but they do the trip there almost empty anyway so a little extra weight does not impact much of their fuel economy !
And finally, i am not interested in the job, i just tried to give you a few pointers... To waste 3 days, fuel and expenses + the fatigue due to concentrating on a long trip + lack of sleep and proper food i would not do it for twice as much !
Doctle Odd
21-10-2014, 10:50 AM
Total trip Tottenham - Harwich - Hook of Holland - Skive - Hook of Holland - Sudbury - Tottenham = 1300 miles
Return ferry cost is £208 (£602 on HGV ferry return Immingham - Esbjerg but far less miles!)
1,300 miles at 28mpg = 47 gall = 214 litres @£1.53/litre = £800 paid - (£328 + £250 for driver) gives a profit for someone of £222 !
Which is worth a hotel (nearest town is Skive, Best Western is £67 per night, meal, and some duty free)
Just don't know where you're getting your figures from. Due to my "condition" I can't handle junctions and other road junctions/instructions on the wrong side of the road. Would you believe the only place in UK to be taught LHD is Ulster?
Best rental I've found is (Tottenham) £98 per day for a single car low-loader + £0.09 each mile after 250. Which is why I'm offering
£250 for driver +re-imburse Derv costs and ferry cost if I have to hire
It's not road-worthy hence the post. Someone, even if working might be able to take Fri - Mon off and do it. Or put this to someone they know...
As Arfur Daley would say: "nice little earner"!
Ulster drivers are taught nothing about driving on the left, why would they be? Maybe they brought it in since I lived there.
RichardSEL
21-10-2014, 12:18 PM
Ulster drivers are taught nothing about driving on the left, why would they be? Maybe they brought it in since I lived there.
A neighbour is ex-BSM (now self-employed) and he says he often gets asked, but there's no demand - there's no voluntary course in UK preparing for continental and Eire driving. It's not compulsory in Ulster, but there are courses you can take for the less proficient over there.
Did alright driving a scrap T-Bird up from New York thru NY state to Buffallo. Was going to Niagara Falls with
my then 2nd (stunning but quite mad -- but that's another story!)
Anyways, got to this particularly complex multiway junction with many light and filter controlled signs saying "Ahead only" and "Filter" and had brain freeze. Like which was my right of way? Did I have one? And when? Why was traffic oncoming flashing me as they went past? Why was traffic overtaking me over both my shoulders? Which ever light came on I wanted to turn left, but my brain was giving me an equally compelling reason to not. Eventually, she got out and just did it.
Since that time, I've never relaxed driving on the wrong side of the road, even just a short trip from Hook of Holland to Europort -- sets me on edge/lack of confidence thing. So doing the distance between the Hook and Skive with an unfamiliar vehicle, manual, and loaded return isn't feasable. Which is why I'll pay £250+ to anyone that can.
RichardSEL
21-10-2014, 12:36 PM
Have just heard that the seller will be moving the car to a neighbouring town while away to await collection with someone who can do the handover to transporter.
**NEW!** Now no date restriction!
Any time in the next 30 days is fine. So no need to drive continuous!
PM me if you can and have trailer for over £400 gross in your pocket for the job. Or if your nearer to Immingham (less miles to drive) £250
Doctle Odd
21-10-2014, 12:41 PM
Many years ago I took a job driving a little sweeper truck. Training lasted as long as it took to show me how to lower and raise the brushes. Bit scary driving through Dublin on the left.
Teflon
21-10-2014, 02:47 PM
I do wish you luck in getting the job done.
But you calculation are somewhat optimistic. If you take the AA cost of ownership per mile, or even the more realistic 40p per mile the taxman allows, someone would be well out of pocket. Add insurance for what is to all intents and purposes is a commercial job, food, minimum wage, Kwells, etc. and it's only going to be attractive to the sort of stranger I wouldn't trust with my own car.
If the time limit is no longer pressing, why not go back to plan A?
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RichardSEL
21-10-2014, 05:30 PM
Yes, have advised original transporter quote that. He's acknowledged and no doubt will get back to me in the next 30 days if he gets an outbound leg. Meantime, both offers still open for those not frightened of a bit of fatigue to make some folding...
I don't know where all this minimum wage stuff is coming from, got yelled that in another forum. £80 + per day not up to the minimum wage then? And using those cost calculators is daft. We're living in the real world here. It's like adamss24 saying it's 810 miles to Skive. Yes it is if you drive across the North Sea. No wonder he's knackered :biglaugh: (memories of Top Gear converting a Triumph Herald to amphibiously drive across the Dover Straits) Distance is 562 miles via A1
adamss24 - hope this helps: Hook of Holland to Skive, Denmark distance - Google Search (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Hook+of+Holland+to+Skive%2C+Denmark+dista nce&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&gfe_rd=cr&ei=7ohGVI_wE9GAVKnFgHA&gws_rd=ssl)
Teflon
22-10-2014, 02:42 PM
No-one is going to do a job for a stranger for the calculated price of the fuel and a bit of pocket money. Not in the real world. Maybe for a mate, otherwise most people running a reliable enough car aren't going to lose 2 days of their life for that sort of money, certainly not from dahn sarf.
Doctle Odd
22-10-2014, 03:30 PM
It would be more economical to use a single car breakdown truck transit size or similar.
adamss24
22-10-2014, 09:47 PM
It would be more economical to use a single car breakdown truck transit size or similar.
Still will cost a fair bit for the ferry + you need trade insurance to carry a car on the bed. As mentioned above, it's not worth to do the job for peanuts- it does not work that way !
RichardSEL
23-10-2014, 05:28 AM
http://www.transporterhire.co.uk
(sigh)
RichardSEL
31-10-2014, 09:35 AM
I'm sure everyone in here is agog to know that the car was picked up sucessfully from Moldrup, Denmark and returned to Sudbury on the back of a Vauxhall Movano (me neither!) The overall mileage was 1,384 and the overall Derv MPG was over 30mpg. Not bad for a transporter that'd done over 136,000 miles on that engine and clutch -- over 217,000 otherwise
Only downside is that the Movano is 7 metres long -- one metre more than an equivalent transit -- so attracts Stena's full freight rate of £674 return as against just £202 for a car. But driver does get a meal and shared cabin for that! Apparently many now go Dover/Calais crossing and drive around to avoid Stena's new "winter" fares
Seems all my life I've been surrounded by ne'er sayers trilling: "you can't do this", or "you can't do that". But I have
:buttkick:
1961 Jaguar Mk IX, auto, 4.2L Daimler Sovereign engine, lots of spares, in need of TLC
Soooo, what is this mysterious vehicle then?
RichardSEL
31-10-2014, 10:21 AM
Soooo, what is this mysterious vehicle then?
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zollaf
31-10-2014, 10:49 AM
nice, very very nice indeed.
RichardSEL
31-10-2014, 11:25 AM
Beautiful! Mark IX?
Yes, with Daimler Sovereign 4.2L engine. Been standing for six years but in a covered shed. Owner never got around to the restoration, preferring to do current projects of an E-type, Rolls Royce (Mulliner Park Ward), and a Jensen Interceptor III. So cut losses and cleared the space along with a XJ-S
Have you seen the prices that XJ6 and -Ss now command restored? I'm sure it was only five years ago you could see them piled up in scrap yards. There's a place down in Eastbourne (XJ Restorations) that does only them. Booked up until January -- two door XJ6 100A1 restored commands £30,000 and up :yikes:
Wonder which Passat will be being hunted down and restored in 20 years' time?
RichardSEL
31-10-2014, 11:27 AM
nice, very very nice indeed.
Thanks! It will be. (Always assuming her indoors doesn't find out!)
adamss24
31-10-2014, 10:10 PM
There must be desperate people about...how much it cost you in the end if the ferry was 600+ return ?
zollaf
31-10-2014, 10:13 PM
its not long ago that xj6's were cheap, very cheap, they really have shot up, especially if they are rare. wish i had my old mans one he had in about 86' , a series 2 swb manual with 4 doors. even rarer than a coupe. so rare i have never seen another one, and in brg as well. . worth a few bob now, unfortuantely went to *** heaven.
RichardSEL
01-11-2014, 08:44 AM
There must be desperate people about...how much it cost you in the end if the ferry was 600+ return ?
Only found out about the transporter length difference by the time I'd found a driver, and arranged some collection details. And after having been let down by an unknown tranporter that needed an outward bound leg to make his trip out and return worthwhile.
There's a few UK/Continentals that will do it ranging from £876 to £1,300-ish but they don't tell you that before accepting your quote (and the agency site taking your deposit). I've had quotes up to £2,600 but they're swish continental recovery type of firms that'll recover your Maserati Quatroporte securely, offer lock-ups, etc. meantime. My costs included a Best Western hotel room in Denmark for the driver.
In case anyone in need does a Gargle search for transporter companys: here are the agency URLs
Couriers | Delivery Services | Cheap Courier Auction Site UK (http://www.anyvan.com)
Courier Services | UK Delivery Service Companies - Shiply (http://www.shiply.com)
Teflon
01-11-2014, 12:06 PM
.....................
Seems all my life I've been surrounded by ne'er sayers trilling: "you can't do this", or "you can't do that". But I have
No-one said you couldn't do it. Just that you couldn't get someone to do it for your original budget with a spare £250 to go in the back pocket.
But congrats anyway. It looks like a fun way to while away a few winter evening hours.
RichardSEL
02-11-2014, 09:11 AM
Was working on the original budget where ferry was for a car ticket at £202 return. That service stopped 29th September. The other way was via Immingham - Esbjerg which gave far less miles to drive. Anyways, as you say, it's here now.
Just starting to examine all the boxes of spares that came with and find out what I've got and what's needed to get to and thru MOT
The "A" pillars have gone (down either side by windscreen), cills and inner cills rotted as well as all four door cills and bottom boot edge (to be expected). But the "C" pillars have been done previously (at the rear doors' shut). Chassis is fine according to restoration company. Body will be taken back to bare metal as pitted.
Will have to have a bespoke exhaust as there's nowhere nowadays where you can get a Mk IX off the shelf. Besides which with the 4.2L lump in it would need different muffler boxes...
Lucas!
Quatrelle
02-11-2014, 09:37 PM
Back in the late 1950s (yes, I'm that old) when I lived in south London, a friend used to pick me up for nightwork every evening in his Mk IV Jaguar 2.5L saloon. It was a bit of a wreck, but to me, with an Austin A35 van as personal transport, it was luxury indeed.
One evening when I was waiting for him, he stopped, leaned across and opened the passenger door for me to get in, saying 'Quick, get in, it's firing on all six!' Happy days.
I believe the MK IV was the successor to the pre-war SS models. Little did we know then what we know now regarding their value.
RichardSEL
03-11-2014, 06:15 AM
50s? Yikes, I was still at school! After my last term at college I got paid my grant cheque twice. So, having passed all previously, skipped with the cheque. No one checked (geddit?) from the local council. Anyways there was this 1949 Armstrong Siddely Lancaster for sale at a dealers at the end of my road. Sixty quid it was then (1964) Drove that around for two years, the last six months on handbrake only around Cambridge. Makes you think ahead! Sold it for ten bob to a scrapper.
On the odd occasion I do a search for classics have seen a few Star Sapphires, and a Hurricane. But no Lancasters. Value today?
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