A6 Facelift Details Announced

[johnsimcox]

Economy and emissions gains for facelifted Audi A6 | Autocar (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/economy-and-emissions-gains-facelifted-audi-a6)

basically A7 plus some additional engine changes/options. Wonder if Audi UK will decide to import the 1.8TFSi in light of the emerging push back on diesels

[Necroscope]

Excellent find John and I'm at least happy to say that its not enough of a facelift to make me want to swap.

[johnsimcox]

Here is the official Audi AG Press release (in English) on the facelift

Audi MediaServices - Audi A6 (https://www.audi-mediaservices.com/publish/ms/content/en/public/pressemitteilungen/2014/09/04/audi_a6.html)

Need to wait for the UK one to see what it will mean for us and like the A7 they may wait until the order book is about to open (in October) to release details of the actual trim levels etc. The new A7 configurations may be a good indicator though

[Westyfield2]

The bits that I found interesting with tech are:
The new A6 models are also way ahead of the competition when it comes to infotainment, with configurations ranging up to MMI navigation plus with MMI touch. The top-of-the-line navigation system with the power-retractable eight‑inch monitor is now based on a new technology platform that uses the fast Tegra 30 graphics chip from Audi’s partner Nvidia. The supplemental module Audi connect transfers data via the fast LTE standard and brings tailored online services into the car, including new media streaming apps.

So MMI Navigation Plus with MMI touch already existed (I've got it), but it's getting a new Nvidia graphics card. And the modem for Mobile telephone preparation High with online services is being upgraded to 4G/LTE rather than 3G. That sounds good, as sometimes the 3G/WiFi of the car is actually slower than just using the cellular modem on my 4G phone itself! :p



Also with the engines:
The engine lineup for the new A6 and A6 Avant includes three TFSI units with output ranging between 140 kW (190 hp) and 245 kW (333 hp) and five TDI units ranging from 110 kW (150 hp) to 240 kW (326 hp).... The top gasoline engine, the 3.0 TFSI, has been comprehensively revised.

That's interesting! In the UK we currently only have two petrol engines (2.0TFSI in the hybrid, and 4.0TFSI in the S6) as for some unknown reason Audi dropped the 3.0TFSI for the UK part way into the C7 A6 production run. I don't know why, it's a great engine and is what they use in the B8 S4/S5. But for whatever reason, after selling <80 of them Audi stopped it and the 3.0TFSI powered C7 A6 was no more in the UK. It's still sold elsewhere though, it's the standard engine option in the USA!
But now... it's coming back to the UK!? :D

[Splash]

Here is the official Audi AG Press release (in English) on the facelift

Audi MediaServices - Audi A6 (https://www.audi-mediaservices.com/publish/ms/content/en/public/pressemitteilungen/2014/09/04/audi_a6.html)


Awful grammar, but clearly aimed at an American market. Whilst I can forgive "liters", "has gotten" makes my toes curl. They shouldn't have a problem with "schedule" but they probably do...

Now that the allroad is now described as "masculine" I'd better let my wife keep driving my pre-FL one with its ever so feminine old-school incandescent headlights.;)

[johnsimcox]

Also with the engines:
The engine lineup for the new A6 and A6 Avant includes three TFSI units with output ranging between 140 kW (190 hp) and 245 kW (333 hp) and five TDI units ranging from 110 kW (150 hp) to 240 kW (326 hp).... The top gasoline engine, the 3.0 TFSI, has been comprehensively revised.

That's interesting! In the UK we currently only have two petrol engines (2.0TFSI in the hybrid, and 4.0TFSI in the S6) as for some unknown reason Audi dropped the 3.0TFSI for the UK part way into the C7 A6 production run. I don't know why, it's a great engine and is what they use in the B8 S4/S5. But for whatever reason, after selling <80 of them Audi stopped it and the 3.0TFSI powered C7 A6 was no more in the UK. It's still sold elsewhere though, it's the standard engine option in the USA!
But now... it's coming back to the UK!? :D

As I said, this is all based on the generic facelift press release and we will need to wait and see what Audi UK announces. I suspect you have highlighted the reason they dropped the 3.0TFSi, they sold less than 80. In Germany they have had 2.0, 2.8 and 3.0 petrol engines plus the 4.0 V8 and the Hybrid so we are very much restricted on our choice, but as many of the cars sold here will be company cars the taxation link to CO2 is all that matters and some companies even have either a Diesel only policy or a CO2 limit. That may change going forward especailly as companies start to get bills for Urea top ups in addition to servicing and fuel.

[chesterfield]

Have currently got my dealer asking questions about this, as although I much prefer the front headlights of the current model, as they are LED as standard on the new model and Im paying for this as an extra on the current one, its not a great situation. Also my estimated delivery date is not until AFTER they are suggesting the new model can be ordered. i.e. when my car arrives it will be a brand new "old model". Which is also not great.

I am almost certain that Im going to cancel the current order and move this to the new model. May lose a bit of the dealer/audi contribution on the new model, but all things considered probably not as much as I would lose anyway in it being the "old" model on the day it arrives.

[Necroscope]

Id say you have the correct line of thinking there Chester.

[Westyfield2]

As I said, this is all based on the generic facelift press release and we will need to wait and see what Audi UK announces. I suspect you have highlighted the reason they dropped the 3.0TFSi, they sold less than 80. In Germany they have had 2.0, 2.8 and 3.0 petrol engines plus the 4.0 V8 and the Hybrid so we are very much restricted on our choice, but as many of the cars sold here will be company cars the taxation link to CO2 is all that matters and some companies even have either a Diesel only policy or a CO2 limit. That may change going forward especailly as companies start to get bills for Urea top ups in addition to servicing and fuel.

Doh! Didn't realise it was the worldwide press release!

Anyway, for existing owners its good if they don't bring back the 3.0TFSi as it helps keep them rare! :p

[chesterfield]

Have told him to cancel the order. Sad, as I was looking forward to it very much, and now the wait will be even longer. I know depreciation on an RS6 is going to be a kick in the groin anyway, but theres no need to voluntarily add steel to caps to the boot.

I know exactly how I will feel taking delivery of my "new" car, only for me to pass a facelift model a few weeks later. Id rather not have that experience. If it costs me the loss of my deposit and maybe £6k worth of dealer contribution, to avoid that experience, then so be it. Ill want to be one of the very first orders on for the facelift model though, I'll do it the morning the books open.

[jcdub]

It looks like the 177 TDI will be no more, replaced by a 150 TDI!. The ultra 2.0tdi will have a 190 bhp

[rickerby]

It looks like the 177 TDI will be no more, replaced by a 150 TDI!. The ultra 2.0tdi will have a 190 bhp



The 177 was replaced by the 190 Ultra earlier this year. Remains to be seen if Audi add the 150 to the A6 line up in the UK

[Reggiebusa]

I think the images look great. Just spoke to my dealer and asked for him to let me know when I can order? He's going to come back to me. If they say order books open in October, I could have a car for early December?.

[pumpsmynads]

I note that it's a 7 speed dsg for the 2 litre diesel. Is that what the current ultras have? Those who got them. I thought it was the 6 speed.

[Fatbadger]

I note that it's a 7 speed dsg for the 2 litre diesel. Is that what the current ultras have? Those who got them. I thought it was the 6 speed.

It's definitely a 7 speed auto.


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[Splash]

Unsurprisingly the Audi Connect appears to have been upgraded to 4G. I just wish someone would tell the networks here as I almost need Nav to find those places where I can even get 3G.:banghead:

[chesterfield]

Courtesy of another RS6 customer:

[jukkha156]

A brand new a6 avant ultra video by audi medi services showing the facelifted features. The in-dash navi looks good!

Audi MediaServices - Audi A6 Avant Ultra (https://www.audi-mediaservices.com/publish/ms/content/de/public/webvideo/2014/09/04/Audi_A6_Avant_Ultra.html)

[jukkha156]

Having had a detailed look, I quite like all these subtle fresh changes made and look forward to seeing what new colours, wheels etc available.
On the blue saloon photos, I really like the RS style wheels pictured on the non rs models. I wonder if these wheels will replace the rotors?

The only thing i am not sure on is the new look gear knob?

[Gman66]

I agree with you jukkha156 about the wheels. I saw this style on a parked up silver S3 last week and thought then how smart they looked. Personally I think the gear knob is an improvement. I've always felt the existing design looked a bit bulky, especially compared to the style in my previous BMW. Overall the styling tweaks are good and thankfully subtle enough not to make the existing C7 look that different.



Having had a detailed look, I quite like all these subtle fresh changes made and look forward to seeing what new colours, wheels etc available.
On the blue saloon photos, I really like the RS style wheels pictured on the non rs models. I wonder if these wheels will replace the rotors?

The only thing i am not sure on is the new look gear knob?

[AVIC]

Audi Youtube Video

Audi A6 Avant ultrahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_pyJy0ahLc

Dash navi !

[johnsimcox]

Audi UK have put up their own press release now New Audi A6 range ready for an even cleaner getaway < Latest news < About Audi < Audi (http://www.audi.co.uk/about-audi/latest-news/new-audi-a6-range-ready-for-an-even-cleaner-getaway.html). SE will get Xenon not LED, Matrix LED standard on RS6. Sticking with an all diesel lineup except for the S6 and RS6

[GT20T]

Mine's build week 39 w/c 22nd sept and just found out about this last night!
Tried to contact my dealer today but no answer...
Would rather wait another 8-12 wks, hoping they can do it!


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[chesterfield]

Mine was build week 37, I.e. starting next week. I've binned my order and the dealer has shifted it to to new model (or will do as soon as they can order next week).

My car is still showing as being built, and even though they are trying to pull it, it may nd up as a demo car. The dealer has been very understanding about it, and I have had Audi UK call me and apologise for the mess.

I've advised that somebody somewhere in Audi is responsible for having "old" cars delivered AFTER the new one has been announced. They should be the ones shafted for the cost of a cancelled order, not my dealer.

Mine was due to be delivered around mid October. If new ones are scheduled to be early November I'm only losing a couple of weeks or so. If your build was 39, then you would probably be able to shift onto a new model without suffering much in the way of longer wait time at all.

[Whippy53]

Without wishing to offend anyone, but, I am surprised at the number of people to who me this has come as a surprise. The whole facelift subject has been under discussion since January now. Just wondering is all.

[wildbore]

Mine was build week 37, I.e. starting next week. I've binned my order and the dealer has shifted it to to new model (or will do as soon as they can order next week).

My car is still showing as being built, and even though they are trying to pull it, it may nd up as a demo car. The dealer has been very understanding about it, and I have had Audi UK call me and apologise for the mess.

I've advised that somebody somewhere in Audi is responsible for having "old" cars delivered AFTER the new one has been announced. They should be the ones shafted for the cost of a cancelled order, not my dealer.

Mine was due to be delivered around mid October. If new ones are scheduled to be early November I'm only losing a couple of weeks or so. If your build was 39, then you would probably be able to shift onto a new model without suffering much in the way of longer wait time at all.

Chesterfield, you seem like a nice guy and you are clearly smart. But I am - like Whippy - a bit puzzled by your posts.

I first decided to buy an RS6 in February of this year. I was ready to order in early March but then the first facelift pics appeared on the internet. After no more than five minutes of googling it became clear that the FL A6 was going to appear later in the year and that the Paris show was the likely place to see it launched, after which it would (naturally) be on sale as it isn't a new car. Whilst at that stage it was unclear exactly what the facelift would involve, it was obviously going to be both cosmetic and technical and thus render MY14 cars "out of date", that is just a given for all facelifts. Even back then, though, it was obvious from looking at the A3 and A8 models that the FL A6 was going to have Matrix lights and 4G infotainment with graphics enhancements.

As early as late April, people were posting on this forum quoting (and showing) a document that was distributed to all UK dealers that the A6 and A7 "are being held at MY14" whilst the rest of the Audi range moved up to MY15, so it was all looking fairly obvious even then what was about to happen.

Finally, it is self evident that a car manufacturer will make an MY14 car continuously up to the moment of switchover to MY15; they are not going to shut the line down for six months so that the buyers of end-of-line MY14 cars don't feel bad about missing out.

So here is why I am puzzled. On various threads on both this forum and the RS6 forum, you and I have discussed the Facelift along with others, and those threads have provided access to all the information you need on the FL A6. But you have said in a number of posts that MY15 didn't matter to you, you knew it was coming and you didn't mind losing out on missing it, financially you didn't mind the hit, didn't like the lights, anyway, etc. etc., all of which is fine - your choice.

You yourself - on the RS6 forum - have stated how the internet enables the customer often to know more than the dealer but your reaction now is as if Audi has conspired against you and tricked you in some devious way. But they haven't.

I wish you the best of luck in moving your order to MY15 because I like your posts and you look like you deserve to get the car you want. I also hope you get the MY15 because I think it's the better car ( have been waiting for one for 9 months now). But all this talk in the last two days about Audi - making out they are some instrument of evil, like in your post above - seems a little OTT, in my opinion. They are just making and selling cars, in the same way as every other manufacturer.

[GT20T]

Mine was build week 37, I.e. starting next week. I've binned my order and the dealer has shifted it to to new model (or will do as soon as they can order next week).

...

Mine was due to be delivered around mid October. If new ones are scheduled to be early November I'm only losing a couple of weeks or so. If your build was 39, then you would probably be able to shift onto a new model without suffering much in the way of longer wait time at all.

Great, hoping I can do the same today. Mine was due for delivery early-mid October, so similarly it's not much more of a wait.

I can't believe I didn't have my finger on the pulse about the FL, not been keeping up to date with the news in the car world I guess. 5 yrs ago I'd've been all over it like a rash, but must've slackened off!

[Reggiebusa]

http://www.audi.de/content/dam/nemo/models/misc/pdf/my-2015/kataloge/katalog_a6-limousine_a6-avant_a6-hybrid_a6-allroad-quattro_s6-limousine_s6-avant.pdf

new brochure is on audi.de. New colours and wheels are great.

[chesterfield]

My research and understanding, from here and other places did indeed tell me that the facelift was coming. I was fine with that. However timescales that everyone had in mind was that the facelift would be announced at Paris in October. With orders opening on the new RS6 sometime maybe toward the end of that month, and deliveries early next year. Maybe at a push February.

What changed the game for me on Thursday was that Audi decided to announce the facelift BEFORE I took delivery of my car. I.e. facelift models would be on the road as early as November and I would likely have less than three weeks of my car being the "latest" model on the road. Not the three to four months that was expected. It was also going to be the case that there would be a new model physically in the showroom when I picked mine up.

If my car was still the current model when I picked it up from the showroom and likely to be so for a quarter or more, then that would be fine by me. However given that I was likely to be picking my car up at a time when the dealer would have a facelift model in the showroom made me change my view.

If there had been no "overlap" and a decent period of exclusivity, then I'd still be taking the current car. Audi deciding to deliver pre facelift cars when they are already displaying and selling post facelift cars is an entirely different matter.

Would you be happy to blurt 90 grand up the wall and not be collecting the latest model when you go to the dealers?

[chesterfield]

Finally, it is self evident that a car manufacturer will make an MY14 car continuously up to the moment of switchover to MY15; they are not going to shut the line down for six months so that the buyers of end-of-line MY14 cars don't feel bad about missing out.


That is pretty much exactly what they have done with the TT line.

I made enquiries with my dealer about the update of the A6 and the information they had from Audi was that they were expecting an update to arrive next year. In line with what everyone's estimates were of new models on the road maybe February. At that point in time somebody somewhere in Audi knew that the were planning refresh to arrive November.

They would have also known this when I placed my order at the end of June. At that point you may think it wise to tell the customer that there will be a new model delivered just a couple of weeks later than theirs and would they like to hold off? They already have my signature on an order, so what do they have to lose other than avoiding a customer finding out at a later date?

My order is being shifted to MY15, and Audi UK have been incredibly apologetic on the phone, and have stated that its not great timing and perhaps customers should have been informed of this when they ordered so recently. Apparently discussions will be taking place between Audi UK, branding and Audi Germany.

Whether Audi UK or Germany wish to do anything about my dealer being stuffed with having to find a home for my existing order/car remains to be seen. Its not the dealers fault, so they shouldn't be left carrying the can. It was entirely avoidable if Audi had been up front with customers ordering at a time when they knew that those orders wouldn't be delivered until after the facelift.

[GT20T]

Not knowing that much about the way Audi deals with its lines, I'm quite surprised that the S6 & RS6 are available at the same time, usually these lag behind whilst they sort their new lines out.

[Whippy53]

Hey! Do I spot Misano red for the s line in that brochure? If so that's wonderful. Also Sepang blue for the s6? Go chesterfield, go!

[GT20T]

Looking at the brochure I can't see the pearlescent black - this is the one I ordered.

Was pretty disappointed about the colour options on the A6 when I ordered TBH, very bland palette. The addition of the reds is good, although I'd not have one. I reckon the new darker reds with black wheels is going to be a big trend, seen lots around and they look tasty.
Saying that I went for black so I can't talk!

The wheel options look awesome but not sure which are BE nco's. The rotors are lovely but would be nice to have something different. The brake disks on the 2.0tdi look woeful thru the 20" Rotors.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/06/0ea0b5a5306b9629c17c17abf6854cea.jpg

[chesterfield]

Just looked at the brochures on the Audi site and they still seem to be pre facelift versions?

[wildbore]

My research and understanding, from here and other places did indeed tell me that the facelift was coming. I was fine with that. However timescales that everyone had in mind was that the facelift would be announced at Paris in October. With orders opening on the new RS6 sometime maybe toward the end of that month, and deliveries early next year. Maybe at a push February.

What changed the game for me on Thursday was that Audi decided to announce the facelift BEFORE I took delivery of my car. I.e. facelift models would be on the road as early as November and I would likely have less than three weeks of my car being the "latest" model on the road. Not the three to four months that was expected. It was also going to be the case that there would be a new model physically in the showroom when I picked mine up.

If my car was still the current model when I picked it up from the showroom and likely to be so for a quarter or more, then that would be fine by me. However given that I was likely to be picking my car up at a time when the dealer would have a facelift model in the showroom made me change my view.

If there had been no "overlap" and a decent period of exclusivity, then I'd still be taking the current car. Audi deciding to deliver pre facelift cars when they are already displaying and selling post facelift cars is an entirely different matter.

Would you be happy to blurt 90 grand up the wall and not be collecting the latest model when you go to the dealers?

Of course I didn't want to be not collecting the latest model. That is why I have had my MY15 order in for some months now. I still don't see how you think Audi can deliver their last MY14 car without having revealed their MY15 one unless you expect them to shut the lines for three months or more, and you knew all along that you were ordering the last of the MY14s.

It's not that you have changed your mind about which car to have that puzzles me - I can see how, with the prospect of the FL being so close you would want to change to the new model, it's the railing against Audi that puzzles me. I can't see what you expect them to do differently.


What changed the game for me on Thursday was that Audi decided to announce the facelift BEFORE I took delivery of my car.

I sincerely doubt that Audi timed the A6 FL announcement specifically to wind you up.

[Whippy53]

Just looked at the brochures on the Audi site and they still seem to be pre facelift versions?

http://www.audi.de/content/dam/nemo/models/misc/pdf/my-2015/kataloge/katalog_a6-limousine_a6-avant_a6-hybrid_a6-allroad-quattro_s6-limousine_s6-avant.pdf

[johnsimcox]

Hey! Do I spot Misano red for the s line in that brochure? If so that's wonderful. Also Sepang blue for the s6? Go chesterfield, go!
Audi UK do not seem to take the full colour palette that is possible in other markets. With the pre-facelift car there was a much wider choice of colours on offer in Germany than the the any shade of grey (from White through to Black) that Audi UK decided is all we want, in the same way that Audi announces that the new A6 has LED as standard across the range and then the UK decides that the SE trim will have Xenon Plus instead. Will have to wait and see what is offered in the new brochure but I wouldn't hold your breath.

[pumpsmynads]

For those of you who don't like the new straight DRLs it appears in the brochure that you still get the curved ones on the xenons. Only straight with the LEDs.

[GT20T]

Are we thinking that in the UK it's Xenon Plus for SE and LED (non matrix) for S Line and above?

[chesterfield]

Of course I didn't want to be not collecting the latest model. That is why I have had my MY15 order in for some months now. I still don't see how you think Audi can deliver their last MY14 car without having revealed their MY15 one unless you expect them to shut the lines for three months or more, and you knew all along that you were ordering the last of the MY14s.

It's not that you have changed your mind about which car to have that puzzles me - I can see how, with the prospect of the FL being so close you would want to change to the new model, it's the railing against Audi that puzzles me. I can't see what you expect them to do differently.



I sincerely doubt that Audi timed the A6 FL announcement specifically to wind you up.

I had made specific enquiries at the time of ordering about facelift. I was informed earliest they expect to see new cars on the road is 2015. Hence why I proceeded. To then find out that Audi knew all along that the facelift would be announced before I took delivery is what annoys me.

Look at what they did with the TT line. That's been shut for months, and plenty of time for existing cars to be delivered before they announced the new one. The line wouldn't be shut down for three months, they would be building the existing ones and then early orders on the new model would have short lead times.

The only reason I have changed my mind is due to the new facelift arriving 4-5 months earlier than predicted/informed. Had they announced this and said physical cars would arrive next Feb, I'd continue with the existing order.

[johnsimcox]

Are we thinking that in the UK it's Xenon Plus for SE and LED (non matrix) for S Line and above?
That is what the Audi UK press release says although RS6 gets Matrix

[Rower1978]

Hi chaps

My first post here. I placed an order on an A6 2.0TDI S-Tronic Ultra Avant (Black Edition) back in mid August. Luckily for me, my dealer told me I would most likely get the facelift model - have a lengthy wait though, delivery will be Jan 2015. Not too bothered as I had a spectacular deal, saving £9800 off list price with my options and I have been told the price will be freezed for the facelift derivative, so will benefit through any improvement without having to cough up more £££. Incredible, given I understand LED lights will be standard (£1200 option previously) and deluxe 4 zone climate will also be standard (£620 option previously). Options I've gone with are:

glacier white
technology pack
Parking system advanced (reversing camera)
lighting pack
storage pack
advanced key

I'm hoping the black edition will be able to spec new 20" alloys. Love the titanium rotors, but they are getting too common now. Having looked at the new facelifted A6 brochure on the audi.de website, it does indeed look a possibility that a new alloy style can be specced for the black edition trim.

i understand the facelift will also include Audi phone box so may add this to the list once the full features for the facelift are revealed. The new Nvidia graphics chip which powers the new DIS looks amazing. Really feel for those who are awaiting imminent delivery of the current model, I would be absolutely kicking myself knowing the facelift is about to land shortly. Can't wait for January. Cheers guys.

[rickerby]

I had made specific enquiries at the time of ordering about facelift. I was informed earliest they expect to see new cars on the road is 2015. Hence why I proceeded. To then find out that Audi knew all along that the facelift would be announced before I took delivery is what annoys me.

Look at what they did with the TT line. That's been shut for months, and plenty of time for existing cars to be delivered before they announced the new one. The line wouldn't be shut down for three months, they would be building the existing ones and then early orders on the new model would have short lead times.

The only reason I have changed my mind is due to the new facelift arriving 4-5 months earlier than predicted/informed. Had they announced this and said physical cars would arrive next Feb, I'd continue with the existing order.




But the TT was an all new model from the wheels up. Production would have stopped for re-tooling. The A6 facelift is just some different bits on the existing car. The first facelift car will follow the last pre-facelift off the line without a stutter to production.

[johnsimcox]

But the TT was an all new model from the wheels up. Production would have stopped for re-tooling. The A6 facelift is just some different bits on the existing car. The first facelift car will follow the last pre-facelift off the line without a stutter to production.
+1

[chesterfield]

In which case they would have known full well that they would be announcing and displaying a new model before customers took delivery of their "old" model. They would certainly have known this when people were ordering these cars in June onward. The proper thing to do with people placing orders and putting money down (not just tyre kicking), would be to advise them of this and offer to hold their order for a facelift car. They already have the order at that point, so in my opinion they have nothing to lose other than avoiding the very situation where a customer picks up an outdated car.

[GT20T]

In which case they would have known full well that they would be announcing and displaying a new model before customers took delivery of their "old" model. They would certainly have known this when people were ordering these cars in June onward. The proper thing to do with people placing orders and putting money down (not just tyre kicking), would be to advise them of this and offer to hold their order for a facelift car. They already have the order at that point, so in my opinion they have nothing to lose other than avoiding the very situation where a customer picks up an outdated car.

It's a difficult one isn't it.

One one hand you're debating whether it's reasonable for Chesterfield to be annoyed given that he knew about the impending change. The reasoning for this is not about the change itself, but the shift in date from Q1 2015 to Q3/4 2014. I get this.

The other side of it is - what about customers who aren't so clued up about this. I was kicking myself when I found out the other day. But today I was thinking - I've been in touch with my dealer every 2 wks since ordering to check build and delivery slot, and there's been no mention of it. It could've been discussed and I would've asked for the slot to be pushed back sufficiently so that I got the FL model, but now I'm right on the cusp and will probably end up with an old one.

However, if they did contact everyone and say "there's a FL coming out, do you want to wait", the answer would be "errr YES" for most ppl, so they'd end up with a big gap in demand... What would they do with the old models running off the line?

Well probably at least 25% of people would have said "sod it, I'll have the old model, give it to me ASAP". Then they'd have a whole load of 'old' models. Discount them? - not an unreasonable idea, given that they'll pick up more profit with the new model.

In any case, whilst each of us would like to have known, they have to have a policy for all, and it's business, so they would of course go for the policy that maximizes profit, whilst trying to keep people happy.

What I would find most annoying however, is if they did give me info on the impending change, and then the date turned out to be significantly different such that it would have influenced my original decision.

[Whippy53]

But then, if I am buying a car, or indeed anything of value, I google it first. Enter C7 facelift and you would have had the story in January.

[GT20T]

But then, if I am buying a car, or indeed anything of value, I google it first. Enter C7 facelift and you would have had the story in January.

Yeah absolutely, not disputing that, like I say, I was kicking myself for not doing so, but there are plenty of people out there who wouldn't think of doing so. Perhaps you might say that to those people, a facelift therefore wouldn't matter.

[wja96]

There is two sides to this, I think.

On one hand, anyone spending £90K+ on a car expects a certain something from their relationship with the sales staff at the dealership. The RS6 is a very special car, and therefore it's a very special purchase decision, so you want more than just a good price and a cop of coffee from the dealer. A bit of inside information about the newer car coming would be nice.

On the other hand, the sales staff will have had targets to hit and they only get paid when a solid order is taken and a car is delivered. Is the salesman going to say "don't make my week by delaying ordering a special car with a big bonus"? Of course not. They WANT that sale, so they're not going to highlight anything that might stop the customer signing.

Obviously, anyone left looking at delivery of a pre-facelift car had the same option as Chesterfield. Cancel the order, potentially swallow the loss of deposit and then wait for the revised car to come on a re-order, albeit potentially at a higher price. If you're leasing through a third-party company then you may not have that option, but you are still getting the car you were happy with when you ordered it, so you can't be too disappointed.

[GT20T]

...but you are still getting the car you were happy with when you ordered it, so you can't be too disappointed.

This is a very valid point.

[chesterfield]

The dissapointment for me is the shift in arrival time from Q1 2015 to November 2014. When I was going to be taking delivery of a car which would have been the latest model for at least a few months I was happy.

When I learned that the car I would be collecting would likely be an older model than the one in the showroom, that's what changed the tune for me.

What Audi would have done with the cars that were cancelled in favour of the facelift, is exactly what they are now going to expect their dealer network to do. Sell them at a discount or loss. As the changes are minor, then its entirely possible that they could have just shipped a while bunch of per facelift lights and grills etc to parts.

Its probably going to work out well for Audi on my order, as I'm now thinking of adding some other options just to make myself feel better about the extra wait. Though if ceramics delay it even more I'll probably still not brother with those. Maybe.

[wildbore]

The dissapointment for me is the shift in arrival time from Q1 2015 to November 2014. When I was going to be taking delivery of a car which would have been the latest model for at least a few months I was happy.

Except that there never has been a shift in date. Audi has said nothing about the likely availability of the A6 and none of the dealers I am speaking to have either. They have all kept quiet on any dates - exactly as you would expect them to. The Q1 date has always just been speculation by people on this and the RS246 forum - partly based on mapping the A7 update schedule onto the end of the Paris motor Show date to extrapolate an A6 date, but it turns out the A7 had an extremely drawn out update schedule and the A6 has come all in a single lump - and before Paris, too.

All that has happened is that the date for MY15 A6 is earlier than some expected.

What will be interesting is to see when the cars actually turn up. I am advised there are remarkably few build slots for RS6 for the UK for the remainder of this calendar year (is in physically having the car on the road in the UK).

Of course, now I am wondering whether my order for an MY15 will be bumped to mollify all the people kicking off.... ;)

Anyway, now for something different. I am absolutely thrilled with the new red interior option, which looks very likely to be available in the UK, too. I was going to go Silver, because I couldn't stand another "coal hole" car interior, but the red interior looks superb.

[chesterfield]

Certainly very interested to see the new options when the UK brochure comes out. If there is the opportunity to have some sort of matching interior/exterior colour combo that would be nice. Previously I was going for grey outside with the grey stitch inside. If this can be red&red I may be persuaded.

[GT20T]

Does anyone have any idea of the implications on list price? The document from Audi's dealer desktop (attached in a previous post) indicated an expected starting price of £32,000. Any ideas what increase that is?

I've got a decision to make which is heavily influenced by list price...

- Build week is confirmed at 39 (22nd Sept).
- I can cancel today with no cost implication and re-order the FL model for delivery TBC.
- It's a company car and I therefore have a price limit.
- Current order is A6 saloon 2.0 TDI Ultra S Tronic BE. Options are Metallic (must have), + Tech pack + heated front seats.
- This just gets me under the price limit.

The metallic is a mandatory option for my company. The Tech Pack / 8" MMI is a must for me. The heated seats I could live without.

So it depends on how much the price increased by, as I had <£100 to play with on my current spec/order. I don't want to cancel and then find out I can't have the spec I've currently got on order!

Tough one - any ideas?

[wildbore]

As we are probably only one to three days away from dealers having the pricing info on the FL, can't you keep your current order open until you have a firm quote on a FL car? Normally, prices go up at FLs but the extra kit fitted as standard makes them better value. That may work against you in this case, it seems.

[Gman66]

Does anyone have any idea of the implications on list price? The document from Audi's dealer desktop (attached in a previous post) indicated an expected starting price of £32,000. Any ideas what increase that is?

I've got a decision to make which is heavily influenced by list price...

- Build week is confirmed at 39 (22nd Sept).
- I can cancel today with no cost implication and re-order the FL model for delivery TBC.
- It's a company car and I therefore have a price limit.
- Current order is A6 saloon 2.0 TDI Ultra S Tronic BE. Options are Metallic (must have), + Tech pack + heated front seats.
- This just gets me under the price limit.

The metallic is a mandatory option for my company. The Tech Pack / 8" MMI is a must for me. The heated seats I could live without.

So it depends on how much the price increased by, as I had <£100 to play with on my current spec/order. I don't want to cancel and then find out I can't have the spec I've currently got on order!

Tough one - any ideas?

I had a similar decison on spec vs cost to make. Tech Pack and heated seats were must have's for me too plus the memory seats were another big ticket item to squeeze in. I decided to drop down from BE to S-line to make it all work. For me they were preferable to big wheels, BOSE and black trim but I do see the attraction. Hopefully you can get your orginal ask with the FL model without any price issues but I've never felt I made a mistake going for an S-Line over a BE.

[Reggiebusa]

Does anyone have any idea of the implications on list price? The document from Audi's dealer desktop (attached in a previous post) indicated an expected starting price of £32,000. Any ideas what increase that is?

I've got a decision to make which is heavily influenced by list price...

- Build week is confirmed at 39 (22nd Sept).
- I can cancel today with no cost implication and re-order the FL model for delivery TBC.
- It's a company car and I therefore have a price limit.
- Current order is A6 saloon 2.0 TDI Ultra S Tronic BE. Options are Metallic (must have), + Tech pack + heated front seats.
- This just gets me under the price limit.

The metallic is a mandatory option for my company. The Tech Pack / 8" MMI is a must for me. The heated seats I could live without.

So it depends on how much the price increased by, as I had <£100 to play with on my current spec/order. I don't want to cancel and then find out I can't have the spec I've currently got on order!

Tough one - any ideas?

Ditch the heated seats and go with the FL if you have to make a quick decision. Otherwise wait until the prices are announced. In my opinion, it would be worth the wait for the FL and forfeit the seats.

[GT20T]

Yeah can prob wait a few more days until pricing is announced. Hoping it will be a simple case of ditching the heated seats in exchange for the FL. Thing is, the HS are really for my wife... Do Audi do a branded hot water bottle?

Loving the new wheel options on the .de configurator.

Does anyone know the rules for the 'price honouring' of existing orders? If anyone's had this, what's your build week and order date?

[GT20T]

My interpretation is:


"Outgoing A6 wait list orders
Tagged orders place on wait list before 8 August 2014 will be converted by Audi UK to A6 PI models (MY15) and price protected"

This would mean people who have placed an order very recently and don't have a build slot identified?.


"Outgoing A6 assigned orders without build weeks
It is our intention to get these models built as ordered; Audi AG is scheduling them into build on a weekly basis. If any orders are unable to be built as outgoing A6 MY14 versions, you will be contacted directly by Audi UK".

This would be people who have a build slot/VIN identified but no build week yet?

So then anyone who has either an unconfirmed or confirmed build week stands no chance of price protection?

[GT20T]

Looking at the latest price list from June 2014, the A6 started at £30,985 OTR for the 2.0TDI SE. So Audi's indication of £32,000 OTR starting price for the facelift model would mean an increase of c.£1000.
I'm not sure I'll be able to squeeze this in with the same model, as the heated seats are only £265, and I only had £25 left to my price cap. oh the suspense!

[Bloater]

Spoke to my local dealer yesterday. They are not expecting pricing or confirmed UK specs until last week of September or early October. Having recently moved premises they have a big offer on at the moment, but only for cars they can deliver in September, so guessing once thats complete they may release more info.

[GT20T]

Spoke to my local dealer yesterday. They are not expecting pricing or confirmed UK specs until last week of September or early October. Having recently moved premises they have a big offer on at the moment, but only for cars they can deliver in September, so guessing once thats complete they may release more info.

I'm not sure that your individual dealer's plans would influence the date they release pricing / spec on the new model, I'd have thought that this would be driven by Audi, and that all dealers would receive it at the same time. Nontheless, the Audi desktop release that the dealers received stated that pricing would be released w/c 8th September (i.e. this week) however, my dealer also tells me that they're not expecting pricing until end September, which is strange.

[chesterfield]

I highly doubt they would have updated the website with all the new imagery and "coming soon, with prices "tbc", and leave it like that for a month.

Has the S6 always been able to have the "black pack added? I.e. black trim round windows and black roof bars? Saw that in the configurator this morning, though still the pre facelift images.

Prices already on the facelift on German site, so can't see it taking 3 weeks to figure out what they want to charge in the UK.

[Bloater]

Didn't mean to imply that Audi would wait for my local dealer, meant more that my dealer wouldn't let on until after their promo has ended.

He seemed surprised that the Audi configurator in Germany was functioning for the facelift, guess he's out of touch on that, or maybe just feeding the corporate spiel.

No doubt all will become clear in due course, just have to be patient ��

[rafletcher]

I think the images look great. Just spoke to my dealer and asked for him to let me know when I can order? He's going to come back to me. If they say order books open in October, I could have a car for early December?.

LOL no chance IMO. Completely dependent on variant chosen, and could easily be 4-6 months wait for delivery, and possibly longer.

[Westyfield2]

From the Audi UK press release New Audi A6 range ready for an even cleaner getaway < Latest news < About Audi < Audi (http://www.audi.co.uk/about-audi/latest-news/new-audi-a6-range-ready-for-an-even-cleaner-getaway.html)

In the UK the engine line-up for the new A6 and A6 Avant will comprise four TDI engines with either four or six cylinders and either single or twin turbo charging…

As before, the most efficient engine – the 2.0-litre TDI four-cylinder with 190PS – is reserved for ultra versions of the Saloon and Avant which combine strong performance, hushed refinement and the potential to return up to 64mpg with CO2 output from as little as 114g/km…

The trio of 3.0-litre six-cylinder TDI ‘clean diesel’ units kicks off with a single-turbo V6 with 218PS which replaces the existing 204PS version, and is followed by a 272PS variant, also with a single charger, which takes over from the outgoing 245PS unit. At the top of the range, the 3.0 TDI clean diesel biturbo produces 320PS, an increase of 7PS over its existing equivalent…

The new Audi S6 and S6 Avant are sports cars for everyday use. They use the 4.0-litre TFSI petrol engine, a twin turbo V8 producing 450PS, which accelerates the Saloon from rest to 62mph in 4.4 seconds…

The figurehead of the new A6 family remains the RS 6 Avant. The Avant in the extreme accelerates to 62mph in a mere 3.9 seconds and can reach a top speed of 189mph. Its 4.0-litre TFSI engine produces 560PS, yet is also capable of up to 29.4mpg, corresponding to 223 grams CO2 per kilometre…

So the only petrol engines are the S & RS models :confused:. Remembering that from the worldwide Audi Press release...
The engine lineup for the new A6 and A6 Avant includes three TFSI units with output ranging between 140 kW (190 hp) and 245 kW (333 hp) and five TDI units ranging from 110 kW (150 hp) to 240 kW (326 hp).... The top gasoline engine, the 3.0 TFSI, has been comprehensively revised.

So it looks like the UK isn't getting the 3.0TFSI engine back! For some unknown reason Audi dropped the 3.0TFSI for the UK part way into the C7 A6 production run. I don't know why, it's a great engine and is what they use in the B8 S4/S5. But for whatever reason, after selling <80 of them Audi stopped it and the 3.0TFSI powered C7 A6 was no more in the UK. It's still sold elsewhere though, it's the standard engine option in the USA! And they're not bringing it back to the UK with the facelift :(. At least it means that the rarity factor for existing UK C7 A6 3.0TFSI owners continues :p.

Also, does the Audi UK press release mean that the 2.0TFSI hybrid is no more?

[chesterfield]

Audi info to dealers said price and spec details this week, ordering available "September" and arrival November.

[Chesterfield313]

Saw an RS6 in Chesterfield this morning. Looked fantastic and mean in black. Loved the current lights it has too. Changes are so small I'd have been in the one you ordered. Admittedly patience is not a strong point of mine, I only considered an Audi in the middle of June and I collected my new car on the 3rd of July!

[johnsimcox]

Also, does the Audi UK press release mean that the 2.0TFSI hybrid is no more?
Wouldn't surprise me. There is someone on here who recently got one and I think he said the total sold in the UK was in single digits

[Pbro]

I had been flitting between the A7 and A6.

I thought the A7 FL looked a bit too angular and aggressive. And looking at the A6 FL I feel the same TBH.

A year after I got my C6 , it was facelifted and and I was not a fan of that FL either. I know the improvements in the C7 are more than cosmetic but I might prefer the pre-FL and try to bag a bargain.

[chesterfield]

There may be a few cancelled pre facelift cars that dealers end up getting stuck with. There will no doubt be a few bargains to be had as the arrival of the facelift gets even closer.

If there are any demonstrators or stock cars still around when facelift cars start arriving, I would expect those to be heavily discounted.

[Adamski_03]

Spoke to my dealer about cancelling and re ordering with my options he reckoned it would cost me just short of another £100 pm so I have decided to stick with my current order build week 39 so not long now

[chesterfield]

Seems an awful lot that. Over 3 years? That's £3600 including the interest, so a price increase of over £3k is what they realistically expect?

What model?

[Pbro]

There may be a few cancelled pre facelift cars that dealers end up getting stuck with. There will no doubt be a few bargains to be had as the arrival of the facelift gets even closer.

If there are any demonstrators or stock cars still around when facelift cars start arriving, I would expect those to be heavily discounted.

That sounds great , the only snag for me is that I am after a very specific spec which would mean I would most likely have to compromise on something,probably the colour but

S-line- but not Black edition
Ibis White- must have ! (not glacier white)
Quattro auto
Black styling pack , or at least privacy glass
Bigger LCD display
Heated front seats (must have for Mrs)

[Adamski_03]

A6 BE but it's through a mate so done me a great deal originally with the finance so that's why it won't work on FL so not sure if the new prices are going to be that different. I did spec one up on German Audi site few more extras and it was over 50k in euros which I found odd

[TheWineLake]

Would one expect any orders placed now to be for FL model? Or can it still vary?

[Adamski_03]

Spoke to Stockport Audi today not taking orders yet for FL until they have cleared all SE models there are 2000 on the books to sell then they will be taking orders. They reckon earliest delivery would probably be February

[TheWineLake]

Mmm. I guess that's why DtD have stopped doing A6's and that other dealers are doing nearly-as-good deals for those who ask.

[Adamski_03]

Mmm. I guess that's why DtD have stopped doing A6's and that other dealers are doing nearly-as-good deals for those who ask.
Good time to buy an SE :)

[TheWineLake]

...sorry - I don't quite follow!

[Adamski_03]

...sorry - I don't quite follow!the way he was taking it was as if they have 2000 existing SE cars that they have to sell before they are taking new A6 orders??

[TheWineLake]

...ah, so it might be worth making them an offer?

[Adamski_03]

...ah, so it might be worth making them an offer?

Yeah if your in the market for a pre FL SE.
I have BE on order and sticking with it despite new model.

[TheWineLake]

Could well be... But how on Earth can they have 2,000 that they need to shift? I thought most were made to order...

But if that's the case, I'd like to specify a non-disgusting colour (I suppose that just means Ice Silver these days, unless they've managed to get Daytona Grey on an SE) and have the Bose audio (but simple 2.0TDi manual) - I wonder how many of the 2,000 would match that spec.

I really like the BE spec, but find the tinted rear windows just too gangstery!

[wja96]

Very early in this thread it states that the order book doesn't open for facelift cars until October, so I'm not sure why people are having so much trouble understanding why they can't order one now.

The whole thing about having 2000 pre-ordered cars in the system sounds like salesman nonsense. There's probably a kernel of truth in there somewhere, but you probably need to be a miner to dig down and find it.

What surprises me is that the allroad appears not to be updated. All the press-releases seem to say the allroad isn't getting the new engines and even the Audi.de configurator just gives you a list of pre-built cars to choose from. Hopefully they're not dropping the allroad.

[TheWineLake]

Well there are hints, both in the thread and on that PDF (which I understand is not UK) that suggest that orders may get updated with no price change.

I'd be astonished if they dropped the Allroad.

[Adamski_03]

Could well be... But how on Earth can they have 2,000 that they need to shift? I thought most were made to order...

But if that's the case, I'd like to specify a non-disgusting colour (I suppose that just means Ice Silver these days, unless they've managed to get Daytona Grey on an SE) and have the Bose audio (but simple 2.0TDi manual) - I wonder how many of the 2,000 would match that spec.

I really like the BE spec, but find the tinted rear windows just too gangstery!

I really don't know what's going on. I have asked 2 different dealers. Not bothered now minds made up sticking with my2014 order. Wanted tinted windows for my baby in the back :)

[chesterfield]

Very early in this thread it states that the order book doesn't open for facelift cars until October, so I'm not sure why people are having so much trouble understanding why they can't order one now.

Because the document sent to dealers from Audi UK states that details on spec and pricing will be sent week commencing 8th September and that the car will be available to order in September...

That document was distributed to dealers Thursday 4th September late in the afternoon. Spoke to my dealer Friday 5th and they confirmed receiving it.

Perhaps that's why people are questioning why they can't order one? Just a thought.

[TheWineLake]

I'm not exactly questioning if I can explicitly order one, just whether an order I place for the old version (with a long lead-time) will magically transform into the new one!

[Adamski_03]

I'm not exactly questioning if I can explicitly order one, just whether an order I place for the old version (with a long lead-time) will magically transform into the new one!

Unlikely unless you have your order cancelled. Like I said I have build week 39 and that's all on track and pre FL. Ordered that in May

[chesterfield]

In the document released on the 4th it states under what circumstances an order will be converted into a new model. But yes, some orders will be built as new models.

If the order has been cancelled then its just that, cancelled and you will need to start again.

[wja96]

I'm not exactly questioning if I can explicitly order one, just whether an order I place for the old version (with a long lead-time) will magically transform into the new one!

Given that Audi cancelled about 100 orders and gave those people the opportunity to re-order a facelift car, I'd say it's unlikely, but not impossible.

I had an Audi TT that was registered in March 2010 but was a 2009.5 car. It was theoretically a 2010 model, but it still had some features of the 2009 model. It's perfectly feasible that most orders will just be transferred across and the 100-odd orders were cars where one or more of the ordered features will no longer be available on the facelift car. I also think that between now and Christmas will be an interesting time if you want an A6 because on one hand, everything in the showrooms will be blighted because they are old stock (so you'd expect a massive discount) but there's nothing else, so if you want an A6 there and then, that's all there is, so you're in a fairly weak negotiating position.

[retired99]

What surprises me is that the allroad appears not to be updated. All the press-releases seem to say the allroad isn't getting the new engines and even the Audi.de configurator just gives you a list of pre-built cars to choose from. Hopefully they're not dropping the allroad.

Didn't look at the configurator but the Allroad is there in FL form on the German site.

[Adamski_03]

In the document released on the 4th it states under what circumstances an order will be converted into a new model. But yes, some orders will be built as new models. If there order has been cancelled then its just that, cancelled and you will need to start again. that's interesting I missed that part, I know mine is almost here so no chance of the upgrade, I think part of that is because it's a BE as I couldn't see a BE on the German config site as an option.

[johnsimcox]

that's interesting I missed that part, I know mine is almost here so no chance of the upgrade, I think part of that is because it's a BE as I couldn't see a BE on the German config site as an option.

Think the BE is a UK only configuration dreamed up by the marketing folks in Milton Keynes . In Germany the A6 (as is the case with BMW and MB as well) is sold as a pretty basic car and then you add the options you want. Thankfully the structure of the UK market means this is no longer something that happens, I well remember the days when BMW even charged extra for a radio, and as others have pointed out when playing with the German configurator the price for a UK equivalent car is a lot more expensive in Germany (admittedly before you negotiate any discoutns etc)

[Pbro]

I wonder if the LTE upgrade to MMI will allow tethering to a phone via wifi/Bluetooth as well as or instead of Bluetooth Sim access profile , which the iPhone has never supported.

[Adamski_03]

Think the BE is a UK only configuration dreamed up by the marketing folks in Milton Keynes . In Germany the A6 (as is the case with BMW and MB as well) is sold as a pretty basic car and then you add the options you want. Thankfully the structure of the UK market means this is no longer something that happens, I well remember the days when BMW even charged extra for a radio, and as others have pointed out when playing with the German configurator the price for a UK equivalent car is a lot more expensive in Germany (admittedly before you negotiate any discoutns etc)

That explains when I tried to spec the same car on German site it came to around €50k

[TheWineLake]

OK, so if it's possible to call up an Audi dealer and make a cheeky offer, then I wonder what one might offer and which dealerships one should go for?

If I wanted something reasonably simple - like A6 Saloon Ultra 2.0 TDi + metallic paint which I think tends to come out to just under £25k on Carwow (and has been seen as low as about £24k on DtD a few months back) - what would not be considered an insult?! (on a now-known-to-be-kind-of-obsolete model)?

[Chesterfield313]

OK, so if it's possible to call up an Audi dealer and make a cheeky offer, then I wonder what one might offer and which dealerships one should go for?

If I wanted something reasonably simple - like A6 Saloon Ultra 2.0 TDi + metallic paint which I think tends to come out to just under £25k on Carwow (and has been seen as low as about £24k on DtD a few months back) - what would not be considered an insult?! (on a now-known-to-be-kind-of-obsolete model)?

It just depends how many are left in UK stock. You can't order a factory one obviously now and lead times have been high for a while, so cars in stock at dealers you would expect to be very rare. Drivethedeal have taken the A6 off their site altogether, that suggests to me there can't be many in stock.

That said, when I bought mine in July there were around 60 A6's at UK dealers that were unallocated stock cars. I doubt there are that many now.

If you are lucky enough to find one you could bid at the old DtD offer and see what they say. My guess is they'll say no. This is not a car that is going to have loads of units left in stock, as you can easily see by reading other threads on here.

[TheWineLake]

This was predicated on the notion that there are quite a few floating around (particularly in Stockport)... It could well be that it's an erroneous notion ;-)

[TheWineLake]

Can anyone confirm that Metallic Quartz Grey will be an option with FL version? Bizarre as it might sound, that could be the thing that swings it for me?

[johnsimcox]

Can anyone confirm that Metallic Quartz Grey will be an option with FL version? Bizarre as it might sound, that could be the thing that swings it for me?

Not until Audi UK announces the specs for the UK market FL, but it is not offered in germany so I doubt it. The German's have had (pre-facelift) a much wider palette of colours to choose from and for some reason Audi in the UK seems to see it as prudent to limit the options we have. You can always pay the extra to get any colour from the Audi palette so you could get it as long as it is offered on an Audi model. It is not offered for the A7 but there is a new colour called Floret Silver (there is also Tornado Grey) which seems to be very similar to Quartz Grey.

[TheWineLake]

The reason I ask is that it's in the list here: http://www.orangewheels.co.uk/buy-new/audi-a6.html

They say that their data comes from some car data organisation, but how they can know, I don't know....

[johnsimcox]

The reason I ask is that it's in the list here: http://www.orangewheels.co.uk/buy-new/audi-a6.html

They say that their data comes from some car data organisation, but how they can know, I don't know....

Can't see quartz grey listed when you click "click for discount price". Also the list prices they are quoting relate to the outgoing model not the facelift one and they show LEDs as a chargeable option ont he S-Line when Audi UK have already said they are standard

[TheWineLake]

Yes - it's confusing - the list of cars is for current models. The bit at the bottom is kind of quasi news!

[johnsimcox]

Yes - it's confusing - the list of cars is for current models. The bit at the bottom is kind of quasi news!
Missed that piece, but would still take it with a very large pinch of salt. Audi UK has not yet announced specs or pricing, although the dealers may have knowledge that is not yet in the public domain, however Orangewheels are claiming there is 3.0TFSi available, yet Audi UK's press release said diesel only + S6 and RS6.

Back to my original observation, given that Germany has always had a wider range of colours than we have had and they do not get Quartz Grey I would doubt we will get it as I cannot see Audi doing special colour batches for a single country as it would be very costly, instead I would expect us to get a sub-set of the German palette

[TheWineLake]

Do you think, though, that they might use the FL product change to make some changes to colour options?

[johnsimcox]

Do you think, though, that they might use the FL product change to make some changes to colour options?
This is the Facelift Brochure for the A6 in Germany http://www.audi.de/content/dam/nemo/models/misc/pdf/my-2015/kataloge/katalog_a6-limousine_a6-avant_a6-allroad-quattro_s6-limousine_s6-avant.pdf colours are on page 74. Would of thought we will get only those colours or a subset not any others

[TheWineLake]

There's this as well: 2015 Audi A6 Colors, 2015 Audi A6 Paint Colors | Autobytel.com (http://www.autobytel.com/audi/a6/2015/color/)

Again, pinches of salt (american salt)

But I'd leap for Quartz (and even the red is rather fun!)

PS - Just heard back from my dealership who tell me the colours in the UK remain the same.... :-(

[johnsimcox]

There's this as well: 2015 Audi A6 Colors, 2015 Audi A6 Paint Colors | Autobytel.com (http://www.autobytel.com/audi/a6/2015/color/)

Again, pinches of salt (american salt)

But I'd leap for Quartz (and even the red is rather fun!)

PS - Just heard back from my dealership who tell me the colours in the UK remain the same.... :-(
US 2015 cars are old (pre-facelift) spec. They will get the facelift at 2016, just the way the US market is. They have the big show in Detroit in January and all the cars launched there are 2016, even if they are in the showroom the next day. Suppose it is abit like company financial years they are referenced the the end of their time available rather than the start

[raudiduncan]

Hello Folks, sorry to be really annoying / hijacking this thread and I am probably being stupid but I can not find how you make a new post - i.e where is the "post new thread" botton! (I have 3.0tdi transmission issues.)Any help much appreciated Thanks

[Westyfield2]

There should be the button when you're browsing the section. Alternatively try + Post New Thread (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=356)

[TheWineLake]

US 2015 cars are old (pre-facelift) spec. They will get the facelift at 2016, just the way the US market is. They have the big show in Detroit in January and all the cars launched there are 2016, even if they are in the showroom the next day. Suppose it is abit like company financial years they are referenced the the end of their time available rather than the start
Fascinating! That explains a lot. And I'm now convinced that's where Orangewheels get their "news" from....

[kasperss]

Any idea if build week 46 would be new facelift model?

[spitty]

Any idea if build week 46 would be new facelift model?

Hi Kasperss

I ordered mine the 20th August and was told that I had build week 44, spoke to my dealer last week and was told the Audi had put my order on hold, and as long as I was prepared to wait I would be transferred to a Facelift model or I could have a refund on my deposit?? No brainer. Have you spoke to your dealer yet!

[kasperss]

Hi, yes he said that every car with build week in October should be new facelift model however factory order its still showing MY14 old model for my car, Im sorry for my english it's not my native language

[spitty]

Hi, yes he said that every car with build week in October should be new facelift model however factory order its still showing MY14 old model for my car, Im sorry for my english it's not my native language

Hi how did you check the factory order for the MY?

[kasperss]

Hi how did you check the factory order for the MY?

my dealer checked that for me.

[TheWineLake]

What do we think the most significant aspects of FL will be? I'm thinking of Ultra 2.0 TDi SE here.

Seems that it's likely to be in the area of "infotainment". I'm not quite up to speed in terms of versions of what the A7 now has that the A6 doesn't.

Presumably colour DIS and Nav+ will be standard?

[johnsimcox]

What do we think the most significant aspects of FL will be? I'm thinking of Ultra 2.0 TDi SE here.

Seems that it's likely to be in the area of "infotainment". I'm not quite up to speed in terms of versions of what the A7 now has that the A6 doesn't.

Looking at a standard SE then the most significant thing will be the move to Xenon headlights as standard (would account for the c£1000 increase the press release indicates). Other than that it is probably fairly limited and cosmetic as the RMC MMI system seems to be unchanged. If you go for MMI 3G+ then you benefit from the new faster navigation system and (presumably) the map display in the instrument cluster that was shown with the A7 facelift announcement.

[whitter45]

guys in work who ordered BE's a few weeks ago have been told there order is not valid and they will have to re-order when facelift allows (not transfer their orginal order to FL)

This is through our company car scheme so will be interesting to see if the level of discounts are available

[chesterfield]

They should be available if the car is ordered (and Audi UK pull their finger out and make it available to order) in September.

[whitter45]

Think that's the issue - they are spec their cars on the lease company portal and then the lease company await Audi to approve - so Audi wont take the order at present

[chesterfield]

As Audi haven't released the spec of the facelift model, then whatever portal they are using won't have the correct details on which to base the order anyway.

They have a double whammy then. Not only do they have to wait for the spec and price to be released by Audi, they also have to wait for whatever portal they are using to also be updated. And hope that all of this is done in the month of September so they can have the current quartets financial incentives too.

[cunny678]

Can't load the pdf, but here is a piccy of the main info.



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[Rower1978]

Hi Cunny

can you please post a link where you found this info?

many thanks





Can't load the pdf, but here is a piccy of the main info.



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[whitter45]

not a great deal of changes then

For me the positive would be the LED's
The huge negative is the rear bumper design - I hate the Merc look with fake exhausts surrounds in the bumper

The rest is very minor changes

[chesterfield]

Rower1978 - you have PM.

Some more highlights... Power increases for all V6 engines. Emissions lower too, which shaves £35 a year off the bitdi VED rate (£110 off the first year rate). Emissions drop on the RS6 shaves £200 a year off the VED rate. Drops on the BIK % on all the diesel engines due to their lower emissions and improved efficiency. New GFRP springs on the avant ultra models, 40% lighter than steel. Trim strips round windows in gloss black, and new sill design.

[cunny678]

It's a pdf I was sent so no link I am afraid. Will try and add more photos later.


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[cunny678]

4 zone climate as standard looks good. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/22/qumu2yva.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/22/uty3agej.jpg


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[whitter45]

loving the interior in silver

[TheWineLake]

Is this UK, or USA? Any news on new colours?

[Whippy53]

That looks like US of A to me. Yee Haa!

[johnsimcox]

That looks like US of A to me. Yee Haa!

Not sure it is as the facelift has not yet been announced in the US and will be a MY16 Model and some US models already get LED + 4Zone as standard and they do not an S-Line Spec in the US. Finally CO2 emissions and EU6 are irrelevant in the US market, especially in KMs and they do get 2.0 Diesels

[wildbore]

That is the UK document.

[TheWineLake]

That looks like US of A to me. Yee Haa!
Indeed - where dealers are known as "Audi Pardners" ;-)

[cunny678]

Its from a UK dealer.


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[TheWineLake]

In terms of emissions - wasn't ultra stronic always 109 g?

Or am I confusing with A4?

[chesterfield]

2.0 TDI ultra manual/stronic was 117/114g respectively. Now 113/109g

[Whippy53]

OK, but since when did we have limousines in the UK?

[chesterfield]

No idea, but its the UK docments and price list. Unless the US have started pricing in £'s and need to know the Benefit in Kind tax rates for the UK tax years. ;)

[fest0r]

I just spotted something in those pics… might be a US spec after all:

25661

:sad6:

[GT20T]

No idea, but its the UK docments and price list. Unless the US have started pricing in £'s and need to know the Benefit in Kind tax rates for the UK tax years. ;)

Might have missed something but I can't see any pricing info, just the outline spec info that's similar to the Audi Desktop release from the other week.
Is there a link or a PDF of the price list?

[chesterfield]

Have also seen some other information posted elsewhere detailing when cars can be expected. S6 Saloon/Avant customer deliveries March 2015. As RS6 prices and details not yet released and expected at the end of this month, I would gues somewhere nearer to April 2015 for that. Other variants first customer delivery December 2014.

[chesterfield]

Might have missed something but I can't see any pricing info, just the outline spec info that's similar to the Audi Desktop release from the other week.
Is there a link or a PDF of the price list?

There is a pdf price list. It will no doubt be available on another forum shortly, though I have had it since Friday. Have also just seen some more information as above with details. A6 saloon/avant/allroad open for ordering Late sept 2014. S6 saloon/avant open for ordering November, and no details on the RS6 yet.

[TheWineLake]

Presumably you can't post the price list for legal reasons?

[cunny678]

Some info on start stop and stronic.

Technical Data
► S tronic gearbox with new Coasting mode
► When the accelerator pedal is released the engine starts idling and the drive line is
opened; the vehicle “coasts” in neutral until the accelerator is pressed
► Coasting saves up to 4g/km CO2
► Gear change times of a few hundredths of a second
► Gearshifts with virtually no break in propulsive power
► Transmission has 2 selectable modes – Drive (D) and Sport (S)
► In manual mode the gears are changed via motorsport-style shift paddles on the
steering wheel or by briefly touching the selector lever
► Start-stop system improvements
► New functions which can reduce emissions up to 4g/km
► The system shuts down the engine as it comes to a halt (brake permanently applied)
► The engine starts with the actuation of the accelerator pedal to prevent the vehicle
rolling backwards
► If stationary for extended periods, engine can switch on or off several times e.g. to
maintain interior climate control
► If selector level is in one-touch or S mode, the start-stop system is not active


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[bbq365]

Any more news on when facelift is being built.....ordered a6 ultra avant s line s tronic in june, build date was at week 48, this was cancelled 2 weeks ago and again I've been told today I am back on week 48 build, I want the car but now feel wish id have held back and let it run on a bit....didn't know there was a face lift due. Cant bloody wait just hope get facelift now....

[wildbore]

I don't want to disappoint, and I may well be wrong, but I can't see how you will be built a facelift car unless the dealer has agreed with you the new specification, as your original agreed specification will no longer be valid for the facelift - items such as phone preparation seem to have disappeared and new packages are being made available instead. The dealer would need to go through these new options with you and work out how to map your order to the new specifications.

[bbq365]

Ok oh dear...may be cancelling then....

[chesterfield]

Audi have stated that any orders that cannot be built as ore facelift, will be converted to facelift versions and price protected, with spec matched as closely as possible. (Whether as closely as possible means under or over specced, is anyone's guess)

No update on RS6 yet either. As the builders haven't finished the garage yet, I'm in no rush, but the wait is killing me, especially as my pre facelift car got built and will no doubt be on as a demo within a month or so.

[bbq365]

Cheers Chesterfield I may try to speak to them on Monday...i am totally anticipating they'll cancel build date again....so hopefully i will receive the face lift but wont hold my breath

[chesterfield]

The latest update from Audi stated that customers will be able to order the A6, avant and all road later this month. Which doesn't give much time.

Then again, they said pricing details would be with dealers week commencing the 8th, and they only got that last week.

S6 can't be ordered until December, with customer deliveries March 2015, and as RS6 will be after that, I've added a 6 month wait to myself by opting for facelift.

Customer deliveries of models below S6 are scheduled for December apparently. But I wouldn't hold my breath given Audi's adherence to the previous timescale announcements.

Good luck with yours!

[GT20T]

Has anyone seen the UK price list and have a copy of it?

[chesterfield]

Yes. Though I've been asked not to post it.

Any specific questions? Or feel free to send me a pm with email address.

[Daglass]

I called in to my local dealer this week.
The salesman I got hadn't any details on the new prices or options - well, that's what he said.
I also contacted Audi directly and was told the brochures and website builder 'should' be ready for later in the month.

[Daglass]

Hi, quick question - will Misano Red be available in the UK?

[Whippy53]

Looks like it, also garnet should return.

[Daglass]

Excellent, great colour.Looking forward to seeing the new brochures and config tool.
Almost bought a pre facelift Daytona Grey Ultra Avant BE a few weeks back. Quick glance through auto express alerted me to the facelift

[Reggiebusa]

Excellent, great colour.Looking forward to seeing the new brochures and config tool.
Almost bought a pre facelift Daytona Grey Ultra Avant BE a few weeks back. Quick glance through auto express alerted me to the facelift
Daglass,
You can use the Audi.de configurator to give you an idea of the colour choices etc etc. not sure if everything will be uk spec though.

[Daglass]

Thanks Reggie
Had a play around with it there, some great colour/wheel combinations.

[TheWineLake]

This is all pure speculation, right? Germany have always had a wider range of colours than us anyway iirc

[bbq365]

Cheers..let me know any updates and I'll keep you posted.

[TheWineLake]

According to the PDF that I just got sent, there are some new colours - hurray!

Floret silver (a warm pale grey), Tornado Grey (a cooler pale grey), Diamond beige (meh, beige), Mythos Black
Misano Red (S-Line & BE only)

Very happy about the Floret & Tornado, although the lack of a colour I liked in SE spec had made my decision drift towards A5 cabriolet - now I may have 2nd thoughts!!!

I'm a little confused about the interior colour options. I'd like beige leather, and it looks like that *might* be available on SE

[Daglass]

Delighted to hear Misano Red has been added.
Is this PDF online?

[cunny678]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/28/y9e6u8aq.jpg

Looks like this is the silver leather.


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[chesterfield]

What a surprise that Audi UK have not reopened orders for the A6 during this quarters financial incentives...

Can see my order being pulled if no details forthcoming. Audi have now twice missed timescales in their own briefings. No ordering for cars in Sept, and no details on RS6 "later this month" as they previously advised.

Dealers must be going stir crazy with this garbage from AUK.

[Major Jasper]

Totally agree Chesterfield - have to order a new lease car and have to have an order in by the end of the week. Had held off because of the impending facelift, cannot believe how long they are taking to release prices etc. Not impressive at all!!

[Adamski_03]

I have mentioned earlier that my dealer reckons feb before any FL's will be seen. My BE order has already been pushed back to end of this week and I still don't know if it is on track. Will find out more on Wednesday once September is out of the way.

[chesterfield]

Having been issued a warning for rising to the attitude of a troll on this site, it is now time for me to spit my dummy out. I am no longer going to be providing any pricing/spec or ordering details for the facelift via pm or email. Ive been extremely helpful in this regard, and because I rise to a complete tool in another thread, Im in the wrong.

[TheWineLake]

I suspect the delay into October is being done for a reason.
Might it be that the incentives (eg. the Deposit contributions) are being changed?
It is still possible to buy an A6 from new stock at around £24k (Ultra SE metallic) but will this still be the case in October, I wonder?
Seems like a great time for conspiracy theories ;-)

[Adamski_03]

I suspect the delay into October is being done for a reason. Might it be that the incentives (eg. the Deposit contributions) are being changed? It is still possible to buy an A6 from new stock at around £24k (Ultra SE metallic) but will this still be the case in October, I wonder? Seems like a great time for conspiracy theories ;-)
It is and that was one of the reasons I was given by one of the dealerships that they had to clear all of the SE stock before they would open the books again.

[chesterfield]

Dealers already can take orders on the facelift.

[Adamski_03]

Dealers already can take orders on the facelift. Apologies then my mistake. Tbh it was a couple of weeks ago.

[whitter45]

Dealers already can take orders on the facelift.

not in the know here, but how if pricing hasn't been released to the general public. You cannot blame Audi really. The Ultra model sold fast that order backlog was huge so why release a facelift version with strong incentives/discounts.

You got to mindful of what BMW are suffering from in 2014 also. In 2013 they attacked the market hard with great offers, huge discounts which has flooded the market and as such residuals have been hit. Therefore in 2014 there discounts are less so meaning they are filtering supply and demand and as such residuals are starting to recover

I don't see it as a bad thing (but that's biased as I have just received my car last week)

[TheWineLake]

I wonder if this will be across the board - eg. with A5's as well?

[chesterfield]

Facelift will hit risiduals of the current face regardless of any slow down in supply from order pause or removal of incentives imho. My car got built and will probably be arriving in the next month, though I cancelled in favour of the facelift. However facelift RS^ or S6 not expected on the roads until March 2015. Allroad, avant and saloon of other variants expected on the road December this year. Mercedes still have some strong offers on, and are shifting volume apparently, so if Audi do remove the incentives they will be left playing catch up. Its still a buyers market on new vehicles imho.

[bbq365]

Chesterfield....stick with it dude...i appreciate your replies.

Adamski...i take it you're expecting the current version if being built this week...or will it be FL for delivery later in year? Selfish question I have build week end of Nov so am hoping it's the FL .

[Adamski_03]

Chesterfield....stick with it dude...i appreciate your replies.

Adamski...i take it you're expecting the current version if being built this week...or will it be FL for delivery later in year? Selfish question I have build week end of Nov so am hoping it's the FL .

Same for Chesterfield. Wasn't sure if it was me that offended this morning??

Yes pre FL ordered it back in May, seems like an age ago. Hope you get FL it looks great.

[Daglass]

Seems this forum is more in the know than my local dealer - I'm still waiting on them to call me back regarding placing an order for a FL model

[TheWineLake]

Certainly a dealer I spoke to last week didn't even know there WAS a facelift coming, nor that Audi had removed the A6 configurator! Nice guy, though!

I'm thinking that the 24% discounts may be scaled back to something in the 18-20% range post FL.

[chesterfield]

Same for Chesterfield. Wasn't sure if it was me that offended this morning??

Yes pre FL ordered it back in May, seems like an age ago. Hope you get FL it looks great.

It wasnt yourself that annoyed me. Just overly harsh moderating in my opinion and I got a warning for defending myself against a forum troll.

If bbq's build week is end November, then I would guess that it will be a facelift model, but the dealer should certainly be in the know about this as Audi would have had to inform them of the change.

Latest info is:
Start of production for A6 Saloon, A6 Avant and A6 allroad is Build week 44.
Start of production for S6 saloon and S6 Avant is Build week 04. (2015)

Market introduction is Nov 14 and Feb 15 respectively

First customer deliveries are expected December 2014 and March 2015 respectively.

No info on RS6, but I would expect dates beyond those of S6.

All dealers should have access to this information, and they (if they value good relationships with customers) should be able to convey these to customers.

There are also pricing and specification details available for models up to S6, and it is stated that dealers can use this information to prepare orders ready for submitting.

[Adamski_03]

It wasnt yourself that annoyed me. Just overly harsh moderating in my opinion and I got a warning for defending myself against a forum troll. If bbq's build week is end November, then I would guess that it will be a facelift model, but the dealer should certainly be in the know about this as Audi would have had to inform them of the change. Latest info is: Start of production for A6 Saloon, A6 Avant and A6 allroad is Build week 44. Start of production for S6 saloon and S6 Avant is Build week 04. (2015) Market introduction is Nov 14 and Feb 15 respectively First customer deliveries are expected December 2014 and March 2015 respectively. No info on RS6, but I would expect dates beyond those of S6. All dealers should have access to this information, and they (if they value good relationships with customers) should be able to convey these to customers. There are also pricing and specification details available for models up to S6, and it is stated that dealers can use this information to prepare orders ready for submitting.
Good good glad it wasn't me :) this is great info, slightly frustrating that I still can't get a straight answer on my own car which is due any minute.
I wish they would just cancel and tell me to re order lol

[chesterfield]

Thats exactly what Ive done with mine.

However, if your car is due to arrive any minute, then its unlikely to be a facelift. Given they will still be building the pre facelift until week 44, than puts the last pre facelift car being built week ending October 26th.

[Adamski_03]

Yeah it's defo pre FL spoke to my dealer about cancelling and re ordering. But my deal was pretty good and told probably won't be able to get close on a FL model. So I have stayed put on mine. Just want it now!! :)

[bbq365]

Adamski and Chesterfield....you're cheering me up. I hope it'll be a face lift. ..don't think I'll match the deal I got. Bottom line for me is same as Adamski. ..I'm not that fussed but just want it to arrive.

Keep us posted

[GT20T]

For those waiting for info on delivery...
Called Audi UK customer services today with my order reference number and asked for an update on my BW39 BE Ultra STronic saloon.

Car was built last week as planned. Now waiting for dispatch.
Will be at port of exit in Germany for 10-14 days.
Then an overnight crossing to England
Then a 10-14 day wait at the port of entry.
Then delivery to dealer, prep, register, deliver - say 5d.

So overall 3w minimum from now but good to know it's built!

[Adamski_03]

That's crazy times, I am assuming that's worse case scenario?

[Jim Walker]

We got told 4 weeks total from built on our Q7 but got a phone call 18 days later got a call from the dealer saying the car was there.

[Adamski_03]

Thanks Jim I like your version better :) fingers crossed

[rickerby]

Certainly a dealer I spoke to last week didn't even know there WAS a facelift coming, nor that Audi had removed the A6 configurator! Nice guy, though!

I'm thinking that the 24% discounts may be scaled back to something in the 18-20% range post FL.

For a month or so may be, but large Execs don't sell without a hefty discount. 5 Series and E Class and XF all have near 25% behind them. Discounts didn't falter at Ultra launch earlier in the year

[TheWineLake]

That's good to know - my vague urge to dash in quickly has been quashed... ;-)

It's funny about the discounts on such cars. In some ways this is a bad thing, as BIK seems to depend on a (largely fictitious) list price, so much of this rush to lower emissions for a more attractive company car purchase is being undone by fake list prices!

If they just charged less in the first place and ditched the discounts, wouldn't that be better? (he asks in all ignorance!)

[GT20T]

Thanks Jim I like your version better :) fingers crossed

Yeah so do I!

They'd of course stay on the safe side, and I wouldn't be surprised if it turned up after 2 weeks, but I'm trying to not build up my hopes too much!

[Westyfield2]

It's funny about the discounts on such cars. In some ways this is a bad thing, as BIK seems to depend on a (largely fictitious) list price, so much of this rush to lower emissions for a more attractive company car purchase is being undone by fake list prices!

If they just charged less in the first place and ditched the discounts, wouldn't that be better? (he asks in all ignorance!)
Yep, list price vs actual price would make a massive difference in BIK :).

Problem is however that the average consumer wouldn't think "Got a good deal m8, great discountz" anymore. Vauxhall are the biggest culprit AFAIK - no one in the history of the world has ever paid list price for a Vauxhall!

[bbq365]

Adamski. Has it arrived yet ?
Anymore news on this facelift ? Ive heard sod all regarding my so called build again, been another 2 weeks .

[johnsimcox]

Adamski. Has it arrived yet ?
Anymore news on this facelift ? Ive heard sod all regarding my so called build again, been another 2 weeks .
In case you missed in the other posts on the Facelift the brochure is now up on the Audi UK website and open for orders.

[Adamski_03]

Adamski. Has it arrived yet ?
Anymore news on this facelift ? Ive heard sod all regarding my so called build again, been another 2 weeks .

Hey bbq365 picking mine up Tuesday, so defo pre FL. Someone said last night that FL are starting production next week so you might well be in look. I would chase for some info though.

[bbq365]

I will. I'm kind of taking my foot off the gas a bit as don't want them to force mine through...going to give them a call in the week just for an update and see how the land lies.
It would be a nice touch if it is but I just want the bloody car now.
How you get yours without any hiccups. ..Enjoy and post some pics if you get chance.

[Adamski_03]

I will. I'm kind of taking my foot off the gas a bit as don't want them to force mine through...going to give them a call in the week just for an update and see how the land lies.
It would be a nice touch if it is but I just want the bloody car now.
How you get yours without any hiccups. ..Enjoy and post some pics if you get chance.

I know what you mean. I ordered mine on 20th May and had my build week confirmed way back. Fingers crossed for you. I will post pics on Tuesday [emoji2]

[bbq365]

Good luck and enjoy it dude.

[AGW82]

A6 Configurator now up for the UK... :D

[johnsimcox]

Those concerned about finance incentives on the facelift A6 may get some reassurance that on the similarly facelifted A7 Audi is offering an £8k contribution

[Chesterfield313]

According to DtD you can still get nearly 15k off an A7 BiTdi BE, same discount as before the facelift.

[Chesterfield313]

I was thinking i should have got the a7 BITDI BE. Next time maybe with TRITDI. :-)

You have a one track mind! Anything else you require from a car?!

Be careful, the A7 is slightly slower than the A6. Might be weight, or aerodynamics, or because it's dragging its backside along the floor...... ;)

[fest0r]

So how did you get on at Ecotune for the power run Jamie?

[fest0r]

Misunderstanding… I thought you had said you booked another run :Blush2: Looking forward to the results :fing02:

[Chesterfield313]

Nice attention to detail again Audi. Start page says A6 still not available, but then start configurator and there they are.

I like the new gold colour in BE spec. Not sure how many will pick it though, with the super weak name "diamond beige"! What were you thinking audi?!

[Whippy53]

Hmmm, luvly, superpimp!

[GT20T]

A6 Configurator now up for the UK... :D

Pleased to see that if you go for the black edition or the black styling pack you won't get the chrome strip on the boot lip. Wasn't sure about that one.

[Daglass]

Man alive those super sport seats look great.
So tempted by them

[chesterfield]

And the price hasn't even made a reappearance for the RS6 yet....

Losing the will to live. There will be just months until a full model refresh by the time they start being delivered, never mind facelift.

[Lukenkarl]

£6300 for B&O..too much
£1500 for sports seats not even heated...come on Audi

[johnsimcox]

£1500 for sports seats not even heated...come on Audi
That is for the Super Sports Seats and includes electric adjustment and memory as well which is £950 on its own so you are "only" paying £550 for the improved seats (or £275 a side)

[TheWineLake]

Stupid question time: when will the first PI roll off the production line? And how many production lines are there?

[AGW82]

I really do like Sepang blue with these wheels, but I'm not sure I would pay £2k for it as an Audi exclusive colour on the none S/RS A6, the standard blue options are pants though IMHO :)

[Chesterfield313]

£6300 for B&O..too much
£1500 for sports seats not even heated...come on Audi

I agree. Think it's extremely poor that the front seats aren't heated as standard even in the normal seats, never mind these things. Basic models in the xf, 5 series and e-class all have it as standard. And I don't mean make it standard and add another £400, like the other recent "standard" additions to spec. Luxury cars have had heated seats as standard for years. It so annoyed me I didn't order it with this car, couldn't bring myself to pay extra for it.......a decision I may regret in a few weeks.

[TheWineLake]

Man up! It's not a convertible!!!

[Chesterfield313]

Man up! It's not a convertible!!!

Yeah, you're right. Every other manufacturer is wrong and audi is right. Stupid me. I'll tell the wife to man up too.

I think it ought to say "man up" in the brochures for all luxury cars, why on earth would you expect creature comforts in a 50k car.

[fest0r]

Sorted for £55:

Heated seat alternative (http://www.amazon.com/Sky-Blue-Heated-Wearable-Blanket/dp/B009P4IPHC/)

...extremely stylish looking too :bigok:

[Chesterfield313]

Sorted for £55:

Heated seat alternative (http://www.amazon.com/Sky-Blue-Heated-Wearable-Blanket/dp/B009P4IPHC/)

...extremely stylish looking too :bigok:

Out of stock....plus, I'd need two.

[fest0r]

Soz… just snapped up the last one :Blush2:

How about this one:

Deluxe Snuggle Wearable Blanket w/ Hood Black,Brown (http://www.hisgifts.com.au/snuggle-wearable-blanket.html?)

Also looks great :biglaugh:

[Daglass]

That is for the Super Sports Seats and includes electric adjustment and memory as well which is £950 on its own so you are "only" paying £550 for the improved seats (or £275 a side)

Well that's me convinced - SOLD!

[Lukenkarl]

Well that's me convinced - SOLD!Really ?

[Lukenkarl]

That is for the Super Sports Seats and includes electric adjustment and memory as well which is £950 on its own so you are "only" paying £550 for the improved seats (or £275 a side)True, but do you really need to adjust your seat using motors? and how many different drivers does a car have? £950 for something most owners(not all)use... well....once or twice.
Thats £750 a side and a cold bum for the wife. She would be pleased I spent 40 - 50 k

[TheWineLake]

There seems to be a slight SOH failure going on in this thread! Apologies to Mr & Mrs Chesterfield (although if it makes you feel any better, I think - but am not 100% sure - that heated seats are an extra on the XF). I do, however, like the sound of ventilated seats on the BMW. Whatever next? Fart-absorbing seats?!

[Lukenkarl]

My wife would gladly pay for that option, for me lol

[Chesterfield313]

There seems to be a slight SOH failure going on in this thread! Apologies to Mr & Mrs Chesterfield (although if it makes you feel any better, I think - but am not 100% sure - that heated seats are an extra on the XF). I do, however, like the sound of ventilated seats on the BMW. Whatever next? Fart-absorbing seats?!

They're standard at the higher end and which is still less than the price I paid for my audi. The xfs has heated and cooled 18 way memory seats, plus loads more that are options on the A6. My point is that they're standard on every car at that price, just not the Audi.

[Daglass]

Really ?

TBH I am debating it - they look fantastic but they are pricey

[Chesterfield313]

TBH I am debating it - they look fantastic but they are pricey

You can also get discount off options. For a £1500 option added, DtD are showing an extra £250 discount (on A7, options not up for A6 yet). So "only" £1250 now.

[Adamski_03]

Pre FL BE 2L Ultra arrived today, Love it

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[Daglass]

You can also get discount off options. For a £1500 option added, DtD are showing an extra £250 discount (on A7, options not up for A6 yet). So "only" £1250 now.

and add another £250 for the folding mirrors that must be ordered with the super sports seats

[Chesterfield313]

and add another £250 for the folding mirrors that must be ordered with the super sports seats

Oh, back to £1500. Hang on, there'll be £30 off the mirrors. There you go, £1470, bargain.

[chesterfield]

Depends how far you go on the scale. There comes a point when items start disappearing as the price climbs higher.

458 Italia doesn't have heated seats as standard. Yet about 100k less in another manufacturer and you can have a car with heated vented electric massaging make you a cup of tea seats.

[bbq365]

Ref the mirrors I ordered just that on mine despite brochure stating need the 750 odd upgrade. Electric heated and retractable cost me 230 on pre FL order. Speak to dealer they can break upgrade packages up.

[belly buster]

As tasty as the BITDI sounds, the 272PS really looks delicious in the new model looking at price, performance, economy, BIK etc. Now if they'd jacked the BITDI up to 350PS - then that would have been another matter.

I suspect the 2 top sellers will be the 2.0 Ultra S tronic and then the 3.0 272PS.

[MarkTM]

Now if they'd jacked the BITDI up to 350PS - then that would have been another matter.


I remember reading on the A7 forum that cars dyno's had as much as 11% more than the manufacturers claims...so some may well be at 350PS if the same applies to the BITDI A6.

[Whippy53]

If, and it's a big if, the 3.0lt is also 10% over, we will be looking at 300 ps! Now thats value for money.

[bbq365]

Sorry to hi jack a little. A6 ULTRA AVANT S LINE on order ...now due for delivery 18 December. ..build week still sitting at week 48. This was ordered in June. Have been talking to Chesterfield via another thread and conclusion is my car could be a facelift. Anyone got any sure fire bullet proof info from dealer/audi to support this. I've ordered through lease company and they can't confirm either way. FL would be a bonus ...can't bloody wait either way.