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Bash D Bishop
30-12-2013, 11:44 PM
Coming out of a Disco 3 that never once got stuck in snow, mud or very wet grassy slopes I had lower expectations of my Allroad as it lacks the electronic trickery that the D3 possessed. The Terrain Control would lock diffs and adjust traction control based on the chosen selection and none of this is available on the Allroad. I also had a set of General Grabber ATs tyres and those are reckoned to deliver the best mix of on and off road performance.

A couple of days ago I was at my in-laws farm cutting up a beech tree that came down in the recent storms. It was at the end of a VERY wet and muddy field and my initial plan had been to leave the car and trailer at the entrance and cut enough to fill my trailer and then have my father in law come along with the Manitou to collect what I had cut.

Unfortunately the Manitou was otherwise engaged so I decided to risk taking the car and trailer in to the field. The entrance was very soft as it was right next to a feeding trough so was a deep mixture of cow5hit, **** and mud! With the car fully raised I managed to make it in with the traction lights flickering on and off but no real sense that I was about to get stuck. The field was very wet but I got to the far end no problem.

After a couple of hours of cutting my trailer was well loaded and probably near its maximum 750kg limit. I specified the "flotation" type tyres when I ordered it for just these types of situation so it wasn't sinking in to the soft ground.

With the trailer around 500kg heavier than when I went in I was worried that the slippery ground may prove too much for a car on completely road-biased tyres. However, it moved off with no issue whatsoever towards the next challenge; the deep, soft mud at the entrance.

I decided the best option was to carry a bit of speed (relatively speaking) but almost as soon as it hit the deep mud it moved very quickly to the left and I was heading for a costly collision with a very solid metal gate. I braked lightly and swung the wheel right and the car went exactly where I wanted it to and out through the mud and on to the track.

Anyone of a detailing disposition would be weeping in to their two buckets at the state of my car. However, I tend to use my cars for what they are designed for (and sometimes a bit beyond) so I don't get too worried about it. ;)

Whippy53
30-12-2013, 11:59 PM
Gawd bless yer sir, it fair warms the ole cockles it do.

EssexGonzo
31-12-2013, 12:58 AM
So you're the person who bought a 4WD car and used it as it was intended to be used. I bet a Q7 wouldn't have managed that.

Top man.

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diecastsink
31-12-2013, 10:25 AM
it lacks the electronic trickery

You got the point!

4wd and watches should not be spoiled with electronics...

ukgroucho
31-12-2013, 11:41 PM
Nice report Bash.. now you gotta get yourself a set of winter rims with Mud and Snow rated tyres.

diecast... I have to agree. Love real watches.. old Citizen automatic knockabout and an Oris 1000m automatic dive watch as my favorite timepiece.

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01-01-2014, 09:34 AM
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Bash D Bishop
01-01-2014, 10:42 PM
You got the point!

4wd and watches should not be spoiled with electronics...

The A6 Allroad still has electronic gizmos but there is no ability to tailor what the gizmos do. If you want want true 4WD then a Defender with levers that makes bits of metal make and/or break contact with each other is what you need. ;)

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Bash D Bishop
01-01-2014, 10:44 PM
Nice report Bash.. now you gotta get yourself a set of winter rims with Mud and Snow rated tyres.

diecast... I have to agree. Love real watches.. old Citizen automatic knockabout and an Oris 1000m automatic dive watch as my favorite timepiece.

Can't justify the cost I'm afraid. No complaints so far this winter but I'll reserve judgement until the first heavy snow.

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ukgroucho
02-01-2014, 08:40 PM
Depends how long you plan to keep the car... rubber is rubber, you burn thru it all year around so if you plan to keep the car for more than "a few sets of tires" then it really does not matter if you swap for winter M&S for about half the year and "all season" for the rest. A set of winter M&S plus a set of "all season" tires lasts about as long as two sets of "all season"

Agreed an extra set of rims is an expense ... but if (like me) you plan to keep the car for 7 or 8 years then it washes out when compared with the cost of getting tires moved off/on rims as you do the winter / summer changeover. Plus you can swap wheels at home with a jack and some wheel nut tools.

Bash D Bishop
02-01-2014, 09:29 PM
As I took out the full maintenance and tyres package when I bought the car putting winter tyres on would blow the economics out the window.

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MarkTM
02-01-2014, 10:42 PM
Loved this line!


Anyone of a detailing disposition would be weeping in to their two buckets at the state of my car. ;)

TBH if you can't afford new Winter M&S buy partworn, my set of Dunlop Wintersport 3D's set me back £180 and they had 6mm of tread on them, 5mm now with one winter gone. In Germany some drivers change them every year, UK companies ship their leavings over in container loads and sell them here at pretty decent prices...although it's better to buy a set in July/August to get the best prices.

ukgroucho
03-01-2014, 02:09 AM
Yeah that's what I have on my Allroad right now - they were standard fitting on Audi winter wheels i bought from a German eBay site based on a recommendation from another forum member here. Not sure thattheir dry weather / warm grip is as good as the stock Contis but wet / cold (as much as we have had) seems better... I'm sure that snow performance will be much better.

MarkTM
03-01-2014, 10:40 AM
Groucho..what brand/size/spec are yours?

Bash same for your 'flotation' type rubber please?

ukgroucho
03-01-2014, 01:22 PM
Groucho..what brand/size/spec are yours?

Dunlop 3D M&S 235/55 R18 with a 100H load rating. As I said they came with the wheels which are identical to the 'stock' Allroad / A6 wheels except they are 7.5" rims rather than 8" to provide more room for snow chain fitment if desired.

If I were buying new winter tires I would probably go for Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4s. They get very good reviews and are available in a V rating also (not that I intend to drive that quickly in winter).

MarkTM
03-01-2014, 01:34 PM
Mine 245/40/R18 V97 XL

Bash D Bishop
05-01-2014, 11:09 PM
Groucho..what brand/size/spec are yours?

Bash same for your 'flotation' type rubber please?

I have a Meredith & Eyre MEG7564WRM with a ramp and mesh sides. The tyres are 20.5 x 8 - 10. The circumference is exactly the same as the variant fitted with 145/70 R 13 tyres.

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