Auto brake application when you stop... can I switch it off?

[ukgroucho]

I guess this is an auto gearbox (tiptronic) feature although maybe the DSG does it also... When you stop it applies the brake (you see a green brake icon in the DIS).

IMO it makes for slightly 'jerky' starts cos you apply throttle and the brake has to disengage. It's really unnecessary (for me), old C6 3.0 TDi Tiptronic did not have it and I survived for 8 years with no mishaps.

Any way to switch it off?

[Guest 2]

Just tap the throttle lightly and it will disengage slowly plus then the creep on the tiptronic will set you off nicely.

[jk88]

Sounds like you're describing Autohold, in which case there's a button just behind the parking brake switch that activates or deactivates it (or at least there is on the DSG versions)

[ukgroucho]

Thanks jk88. I feel embarrassed to say that I had not spotted that button :o
Will play later.

[Bash D Bishop]

Autohold only engages if it is selected once the seat belt is fastened. If the OP isn't manually selecting it then there must be an issue. :confused:

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[ukgroucho]

No, at least not based on current experience.. mine seems (or seemed) to be ON by default - been that way since I picked the car up. Just tried it and now seems to be OFF, so maybe it remembers between startups?

[Bash D Bishop]

According to the book it is off by default and has to be manually selected each time you start-up and buckle-up. It won't let you select it if you haven't done the latter. Perhaps you have been inadvertently pressing it when trying to manually disengage the EPB?

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[ukgroucho]

Nope, just tested.
Switched it on, drove 3 miles to a farm shop - during whic htime autohold engaged at an intersection and again when I stopped to park.
Went in and bought a few bits - maybe 5 or 10 mins
Jumped in car and autohold light is on when I start engine.

[MFGF]

Nope, just tested.
Switched it on, drove 3 miles to a farm shop - during whic htime autohold engaged at an intersection and again when I stopped to park.
Went in and bought a few bits - maybe 5 or 10 mins
Jumped in car and autohold light is on when I start engine.

People have been asking for the coding to achieve this using VCDS! Until now we didn't think it was possible. I'd love to see how your car is coded!

MF.

[ukgroucho]

Well if we can get someone reasonably local to Stratford Upon Avon with VCDS who is willing to pull the coding I'll happily spend an hour or whatever with them to dig it out.

[Johnny31]

Default OFF in my case (DSG) but would like it on: my previous car (latest VW Passat, manual) was ON by default (but a colleague had the same car with DSG and it was OFF)... Maybe useful?

[johnsimcox]

Nope, just tested.
Switched it on, drove 3 miles to a farm shop - during whic htime autohold engaged at an intersection and again when I stopped to park.
Went in and bought a few bits - maybe 5 or 10 mins
Jumped in car and autohold light is on when I start engine.
Just for clarification purposes. When you get in the car and start the engine, of the two brake buttons to the right of the transmission selector, which one is illuminated (the one nearest the dash or the one behind it)? Also when you drive off, are you simply putting the car in gear and driving off or are you releasing the parking brake by hand first and if the latter which brake button are you pressing?

[ukgroucho]

When I get in the car the parking brake light is 'on' - seems to light up when you unlock the car and it auto engages when you put in park and shut off engine. Sometimes I disengage before I drive off, sometimes I let the car take care of it for me.

When I start the car the rear switch (auto hold) will either light up (if that is how it was before I shut down the car) or not. It preserves the setting last used before the vehicle was turned off.

[johnsimcox]

Sounds like you do indeed have a unique car with something many of us would love to have on our own cars! Let's hope someone near you with VCDS can get to the bottom of it.

[Bloater]

In my manual version, I wish it would default to on as well. Pull up at the lights, it activates, you release the brake pedal to avoid dazzling the guy/gal behind. When ready to go, you just put it in gear and drive off.

To have to remember to turn it on everytime is a pain. I could activate the real handbrake, but I'm lazy at quite often don't dip the clutch far enough to get that to release, so the back end just sinks to the ground. No problems like that with the autobrake though.

Hopefully someone clever enough will find how to toggle this permanently.

Cheers

[Bash D Bishop]

Very strange. It defiantly sounds as though your car is operating not in accordance with the user manual but in a way many of us would like it to operate. If I was you I'd be concerned that my car wasn't operating correctly and that it may "correct" itself when I least wanted it to.

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[ukgroucho]

Or maybe Audi saw the light for MY2014 builds (or maybe my dealership did something)... a disconnect between the manual (paper) and behaviour of the system does not concern me in the slightest... manuals take AGES to update and will only get reprinted when a batch runs out or there is a significant amount of change or a legal requirement.

[ukgroucho]

Any local VCDS folks wanna come and extract my cars brain?
I live about 7 miles west of Stratford upon Avon, near Alcester.

[retired99]

When I start the car the rear switch (auto hold) will either light up (if that is how it was before I shut down the car) or not. It preserves the setting last used before the vehicle was turned off.

Don't really use the auto brake function but having read this thread though I'd see how it behaves. It behaves as described by ukgroucho, it remembers the last setting (Allroad MY14 Tiptronic).

Don't use it because it releases too jerkily and the interaction with 'stop start' is nonsense; come to a halt the engine turns off and auto brake is applied, take foot off foot brake ( surely the point is to be able to do this) and the engine restarts.

Previous car BMW F11 ( latest model) had this feature which worked well; smooth release and the engine only started when some throttle was applied.

Has anyone noticed this happening; come to a standstill with the footbrake applied and move the selector from 'D' to 'R' to,e.g. back into a parking space, and the stop /start kicks in even during the brief moment it takes to move the gear selector?

[Wuffles]

Has anyone noticed this happening; come to a standstill with the footbrake applied and move the selector from 'D' to 'R' to,e.g. back into a parking space, and the stop /start kicks in even during the brief moment it takes to move the gear selector?

Yes I noticed it and it had been covered before here. The manual does the job much better apparently.

[ukgroucho]

I am happy with it switched OFF... in an auto I have enough feet to deal with this stuff. In a manual the brake assist would be useful...

[retired99]

I am happy with it switched OFF... in an auto I have enough feet to deal with this stuff. In a manual the brake assist would be useful...


Agree.

Even with a system that worked well in my previous car ( properly integrated with stop / start and really smooth in operation) I very rarely used it.

[boof]

I was hugely wary about the hold assist and didn't think I'd bother using it at all. To my surprise I love it and use it all the time.

My only worry (which is both a little bit pathetic but also alarmingly valid) is that I'm a little *too* used to it. On occasion I forget to switch it on and only realise when the car rolls back a bit in traffic before I panic and step on the brake again..very disconcerting.

Also concerned that the habit will carry over to my other cars that don't have it at all - with the same result as the above. I've already found myself 'forgetting' to take off the manual handbrake before setting off in them...oops.

Remembering last behaviour or being on by default would be great. Definitely not a sticky setting on my car (2012) and has to be set each time you set off after ignition and seat belt buckling.

[johnsimcox]

I was hugely wary about the hold assist and didn't think I'd bother using it at all. To my surprise I love it and use it all the time.

My only worry (which is both a little bit pathetic but also alarmingly valid) is that I'm a little *too* used to it. On occasion I forget to switch it on and only realise when the car rolls back a bit in traffic before I panic and step on the brake again..very disconcerting.

Also concerned that the habit will carry over to my other cars that don't have it at all - with the same result as the above. I've already found myself 'forgetting' to take off the manual handbrake before setting off in them...oops.

Remembering last behaviour or being on by default would be great. Definitely not a sticky setting on my car (2012) and has to be set each time you set off after ignition and seat belt buckling.
Find that too on my wife's golf. Also find i keep forgetting it needs a key to start it!

[Olio]

My car also has the "remember" setting on this. If anyone wants to check VCDS coding I'm close the the intersection M62/M6