Thoughts on changing from a 3.0 TDi to 2.0 TDi ...

[gupsterg]

Hi http://cdn.as-static.com/vb/images/smilies/friends.gif,

Today I went for a 135 mile trip in my car which I luved every minute and reminded me why I bought the car... it may not be a huge trip compared with what others may do in theirs but usually my car is driven locally... it felt so smooth so responsive and refined... I think motorway cruising these cars really excel... this was why I got one to do long day trips but most of my spare time has been spent researching/doing stuff to car :Blush2:...

Then a thought crossed my mind have I got the wrong type of car for my driving habit :confused: ... is the 3.0 TDi V6 really never getting a chance to stretch its legs within town driving :confused: ... is that why I'm having certain issues :confused: ...

I know I've said at times "...never a VAG again!" "... never prestige again!" blah blah blah...

But that is the frustration making me say that :o through the bad ownership experience...

As I really do like the A6 and have now learnt a lot about it I'm considering if I can't nail my issue with current one (please do not ask what it is!:Blush2:) then perhaps change from a 3.0 to a 2.0 TDi I'm considering either a late 2.0 TDi PD or 2.0 TDi CR facelift...

Has anyone done the same and regretted it?

Do you miss the 3.0 vs 2.0?

TIA
G

[zollaf]

er, problem is with changing cars is getting rid of the old one. its famous now, no one will buy it, no garage will part ex it, even webuyanycar.com will tell you to do one.
you have no choice but to stick with it i'm afraid. i suppose you could raffle it off, but who is going to buy a ticket ?

[apole]

Hi Gup,

I think you'd need to drive a few to see how they feel by comparison.

If you are doing loads of short journeys maybe try a petrol even, could be they don't suffer as bad from short journeys (probably wrong there).

Won't you loose out on 4WD with a 2.0? Is that important. Can you not use your A6 for longer journeys more often.

Good thought on all the short journeys having a side effect. If it's that what about fitting a kenlowe hotstart to pre-heat the engine?

Nissan leaf if only short journeys?

Just random ideas .....

Don't rush into anything though you may regret.

[Guest 2]

Bad decision IMO - going from a 3.0 to a 2.0 courtesy car is hell. No smoothness of a V6 and no real power when you need it.

Around town the MPG is the same as with all diesels so no real loss with fuel, consider a petrol?

You've spent so much money on the car I personally would run it into the ground as you're never gonna make your injected money back when selling.

My A6 does a maximum of 10 miles per day around town and then 150 at weekends all motorway and has done for the past 4 years and if you remember my running costs thread there's nothing out of the ordinary that's went wrong.

Remember if you go auto in a fwd you'll get the multichronic which is a very big disappointment coming from a Tiptronic.

If you're doing little miles why not downsize to an A3 or A4? Cut running costs in half if you can't justify the mileage v price of the car. Cheaper to tax, cheaper on insurance and cheaper to run.

If you did decide to sell and as you said to me via PM, you're planning on driving the van more regularly than the car so what's the point of a big fancy car sitting in the drive all week losing money and not being used - if I were you in that situation where the van would be the daily drive then I'd be looking at significantly cheaper (but still fresh) cars.




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[Brycie]

Well the 2.0 is good enough for me, but as Chris says, I think it'd be a disappointment if you're used to the power of a 3.0. If you were going to get a smaller than ngined car, one with less bodyweight to pull around than an A6 would probably be better. You're more than welcome to try mine, although I'm not exactly local & I'm sure there'd be more convenient ways of testing one,; but the offer's there.

[Andrew Turner]

Bad decision IMO - going from a 3.0 to a 2.0 courtesy car is hell. No smoothness of a V6 and no real power when you need it.

Well that's made me feel completely inadequate ;)

I'm really impressed with the speed of mine, especially after the remap.

[gupsterg]

er, problem is with changing cars is getting rid of the old one. its famous now....

Dammit! so those cars tailing me were the paparazzi http://yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0206.gif...


Don't rush into anything though you may regret.

As always Andy great comments and wholly agree on above:beerchug:... I like the 4WD but the 2WD are FWD so not bad as the BMW 5 series RWD I had once...

Could I live without 4WD yes as it really isn't essential for me to be out in bad weather it was just an added bonus with the 3.0 TDi...

On a courtesy A4 Avant 2.0 TDi '11 I noted tyre spin when I tried some flooring, that had 19's or 20's IIRC... I don't know if A4 had less noise insulation or the bigger tyres caused it but could hear more road noise IMO it was driven on same stretch of roads...

Must haves are boot space so must be estate, why I went auto is for a more lazy drive, is auto essential? all past cars manual I just really fancied lazy auto :) ...
But would give up auto for reliability...


If you did decide to sell and as you said to me via PM, you're planning on driving the van more regularly than the car so what's the point of a big fancy car sitting in the drive all week losing money and not being used - if I were you in that situation where the van would be the daily drive then I'd be looking at significantly cheaper (but still fresh) cars.

None of the two vehicles I have are my daily drive as such... I've always liked my vans, on one of them I didn't even have a working ICE for a year and luved listening to the engine and just pottering about in it ;) ...

I really don't know how I ended up with the A6 3.0 :confused: ... originally an A6 (C5) 1.9 TDi was on the cards, didn't find a good example and somehow ended up test driving the current one and just bought it, I think the drive sold it to me :) ...

To be fair the 3.0 TDi is a great all round car you get TIP/4WD/BHP/Torq./Diesel economics vs petrol of similar cc so possibly that was also what sold it to me :) ...

Petrol's are so thin in used car market... my A6 went on M-Way after 2 mths... otherwise the biggest dual carriage trip is a 20 mile one, once or twice a week...


If you were going to get a smaller than ngined car, one with less bodyweight to pull around than an A6 would probably be better.

I think you mean go for A4 if going smaller engine? the 3.0 TDi is the most powerful car I've owned... had smaller cars with appropriate engines which made them feel like rockets what I really liked on test drive of the 3.0 was the weighted feel of chassis coupled with a great engine which lifted it when needed...
I think I must test drive a 2.0 A6 really...

What I'm after is someone who has gone from 3.0 to 2.0 and have long term experience to share... I'd rather not be posting in Link:- ever bought a car and regretted it (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?141300-ever-bought-a-car-and-regretted-it)


I'm really impressed with the speed of mine, especially after the remap.

My current view is perhaps a 2.0 common rail tdi which would mean 09 onwards a 170 then perhaps a remap but I may need to get rid of DPF as main driving is local...

Again this was another reason my current 3.0 was good IMO as it had no DPF... perhaps need to test drive a 2.0 PD and CR?

Thanks for info mate :) ...

[bops6]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[Doctle Odd]

I had a Ford Cossie years ago, HAD to have it, HAD to sink a fortune in to it fixing things that didn't really matter, but at the end of the day it didn't matter when I saw something I thought I wanted (a Toyota, no sniggering please) I got it. Absolute pig of a car only kept it a few weeks, then I bought a Vauxhall Omega that I couldn't live without and so on. My point really is when a bloke decides he want's to change from say a Jag to a Punto, for example, it's almost impossible to dissuade him, logic don't enter into it

[UVB]

Steady there Doctle...that kind of thinking led me to persuade my wife to sell the house and put the money into a Lambo :1zhelp:

[Doctle Odd]

An excellent choice!

[joshA6]

personally, I would not drop down to a 2.0. I wanted a 3.0 originally, but did not find one at the auction that day, hence settled for a 2. However, my 2.0 fuel economy is hardly great, so I dread what the 3.0 runs at.

Personally, and please don;t get upset people, I would get a 530d...Way better engine, way faster and more economical 2.

[gupsterg]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

I get those feelings as well :) ...


I had a Ford Cossie years ago, HAD to have it, HAD to sink a fortune in to it fixing things that didn't really matter, but at the end of the day it didn't matter when I saw something I thought I wanted (a Toyota, no sniggering please) I got it. Absolute pig of a car only kept it a few weeks, then I bought a Vauxhall Omega that I couldn't live without and so on. My point really is when a bloke decides he want's to change from say a Jag to a Punto, for example, it's almost impossible to dissuade him, logic don't enter into it
That's exactly what happened :) ... it was a case of I want :beerchug: ... the sensible voice said get a smaller engine the other voice said" You know you want me really!" :biglaugh:...


Steady there Doctle...that kind of thinking led me to persuade my wife to sell the house and put the money into a Lambo :1zhelp:

http://yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0201.gif...


personally, I would not drop down to a 2.0. I wanted a 3.0 originally, but did not find one at the auction that day, hence settled for a 2. However, my 2.0 fuel economy is hardly great, so I dread what the 3.0 runs at.

Thanks mate :) ... I think another reason why I ended up with 3.0 was the 520i I had met expectations on space and chassis dynamics but the engine lacked power for the car...

20-24mpg real world is easily done in local driving where I am, 35-40mpg achievable on long M-way run, some of these figures are before the mass of work to car...

Here is my fuelly account Link:- Audi A6 Avant 3.0 TDi Quattro ( C6 4F ) (Audi A6 Quattro) | Fuelly (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/gupsterg/a6-quattro)

Take into account that at times I've had car idling for periods for diags, 80%+ of data is local driving...

I think once wife back gotta do some long haul drives in car :) ... maybe time for me to have a break! Mega A6 Roadd Tripp!

[Gavin0478]

I have had a couple of C6 A6 2.0 tdi's as courtesy cars and then a C7 A6 3.0 tdi when the fool drove into the side of mine.

With 2.0 tdi's one was a manual and one was an auto and after driving mine it they both felt really sluggish as the A6 imho is too heavy for the tax mans 2.0.

I have a very varied car history from an Impreza to a Pajero to a van (sort of) and I do feel the refinement of the 3.0 v6 A6 is hard to match and compare.

Even when I had the brand new C7 loaner it was only the dsg gearbox and launch control that impressed me otherwise I felt that felt lesser to my C6.

I myself am looking at a new motor and am at a situation where I feel its only a Q7 I can get because its like my A6 but with 7 seats and a better towing capacity.

If you did change to a lower powered engine I feel you would miss Zesty.

I do very little mileage in mine. 2 miles each way in the cooler weather to work and back and not much at weekends sometimes less than a tank a month and the only issue I had was the butterfly.

Don't do it..........

[gupsterg]

Thank you Gavin for share mate :) ...

You do even less miles a day than me...

My gut feeling is same as general consensus that if you've enjoyed the V6 then you may not really be happy with less!

We'll see how it goes guys :) ... keep the posts coming :fing02:...

[Andrew Turner]

Thank you Gavin for share mate :) ...

You do even less miles a day than me...

My gut feeling is same as general consensus that if you've enjoyed the V6 then you may not really be happy with less!

We'll see how it goes guys :) ... keep the posts coming :fing02:...I would definitely suggest having a go in one with a remap. A 170 can be tuned to 215bhp and over 300lb ft, mine now has 290lb ft :) And with reguards to the PITA DPF, it shouldn't be a PITA as long as you do a 10-15 minuet motorway stint at 3000revs once a week, so i was told.

[gupsterg]

One thought which had been rattling in my mind which made me post this thread is:-

We (v6 owners) say "Oh it is so smooth!"... a 2.0 TDi can't be a bag of bolts? there are so many in the used market!

How are we quantifying smoothness?

There's gotta be a long term V6 owner which went smaller out there?

[fieldy]

Better the devil you know in my opinion. Seriously you have sunk the national debt into your car (as have I) it would be mad to give that to someone else.

Selling it for the cash after doing all the work is one thing (i sold my S4 to help buy our house in 2009 and i loved that bloody thing), but this doesnt seem to be the motive here.

The 3.0tdi is a hard act for any other diesel engine to follow, so i guess switching to the 2.0 may take some adjustment.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

[zollaf]

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[Guest 2]

x2 on Zol's reply - ultimately the choice is your's, drive one and see if you like it.

Yes we can give advice but there are going to be plusses and minuses that apply to different people so its your choice!

[zollaf]

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[gupsterg]

The pictorial perspective really works Zol! :fing02: ...

Any way guys like the title of thread they are "Thoughts on..." ... If I really do it is another thing yet ;) ... got a few more things to investigate :) ...

All of:You_Rock_guys! ... :grouphug: ...

[zollaf]

i was trying to ask which you would prefer to get inside and take out for a ride, but it just looked so wrong, but you get my drift.
mind you, some bloke might prefer ms brand ???
oh god, here we go.......

[Brycie]

Whole lotta lovin!:biglaugh:

[gupsterg]

You know its silk smooth all the way ;) ...

There was a better pic to show what I would prefer getting into to but this will have to do...

http://jessicaennisabs.com/wp-content/gallery/jessica-ennis-bum/jessica-ennis-bum-15.jpg

Just can't find it in google images :Blush2: doh!

[zollaf]

that reminds me, must remember to buy a new rod rest from the tackle shop tomorrow.

[Whippy53]

At least you would have somewhere to park the bike.

[c4a5er]

I was running around in a brilliant car tying to justify ownership costs because I needed to tow a caravan, so I had a terrific tow car that only actually towed on maybe 8days of the year the other 357days it was a very nice but very expensive daily drive.
So I downsized for economy reasons to my A6 from a big luxury 4x4 and of course I miss the comfort, torque, the auto box and 4wheel drive but this 170 2.0tdi is still a capable car and is an ample motorway cruiser as well as returning decent economy around town. The idea is not to compare the two, they are different but that's what I needed.
My advice is to take stock of your needs rather than your wants, sure if possible include some element of pleasure in your car choice but don't think that compromising on the ultimate spec will mean you won't ever enjoy the merits of whatever you choose.


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then perhaps change from a 3.0 to a 2.0 TDi I'm considering either a late 2.0 TDi PD or 2.0 TDi CR facelift...

Just to add, having owned both 2.0tdi/170 PD and 2.0tdi/170 CR the CR is a noticeably smoother engine.

[gupsterg]

My advice is to take stock of your needs rather than your wants

This was the thing that also crossed my mind/reason for thread... recently a mate turned up in an X5 (IIRC 2005) 4.4i with LPG... 150K miles... really good spec...
As wife really wanted a 4x4 when we got the A6 we went for a test drive together...

First thing she said "Did you notice that startup!... look no hunting!"... she then said "How much did your mate pay"... I sheepishly said "5.5K"...

She went "How much have you spent on ours!... see I wanted a 4x4... blah,blah,blah!" ...

Now you see my mate is going to run it into the ground and not spend a penny more then normal servicing, if it start playing up/need more £££ then value he's just gonna flog/PX for some next car that take his flight of fancy... that's how he is with his cars...

I've never been like that... I buy to keep for a period, hence servicing/care is done with that in mind... maybe I should be like that :confused: ...

For the first time something has been like this in xx yrs that I luv & hate :( ... running costs is not an issue... not easy to write off the £££ blown on Zesty but also finding it so hard to ignore "the issue" :( ...


Ahab ignores this voice of reason and continues with his ill-fated chase

Am I doing what Ahab did concerning "the issue" :confused: ...
I can't help but wonder if a facelift 2.0 TDi CR with say a remap be my ideal choice... so maybe hire one http://cdn.as-static.com/vb/images/smilies/idea.gif ...

[c4a5er]

... running costs is not an issue... not easy to write off the £££ blown on Zesty but also finding it so hard to ignore "the issue" :( ...
If this is truly the case and your not concerned about its running and ongoing maintenance costs then it makes no sense to me that you should sell it on given all what you've done to it.
Since you've invested large sums of money renewing many parts which are considered common failures future reliability in those areas is pretty much guaranteed.
Your also well aware won't get your investment back so doesn't it make sense for you to have the benefit of that reliability rather than the next owner? TBH if I was looking to buy a car I'd rather by yours than one that has had no money spent on it and all those items were about ready to fail. I'd put up with a little idle fluctuation when warming up for the sake of the other maintenance pluses. Who knows in time there could turn out to be a simple, cheap fix for the issue?
Stick or twist it's up to you :dunno: but I wish you luck whatever you decide. :)

[gupsterg]

As always great comments mate & will be heeded :fing02:... we'll see what happens not gonna make a knee jerk decision :) ...

[A6_MJM]

Hello,

I know you said you needed advise from people changing from a 3.0 to a 2.0 but I thought I'd throw in my 2 pence as a driver that has gone from a 2.7Tdi (Manual/2WD) to a 2.0PD TDI (Manual/2WD).


In standard form the 2.0PD is rather gutless in the lower gears which can make pulling out onto a busy roundabout really quite the experiance. Its also not the smoothest of engines but if driven normally at the speed limit on a run you will see a good 50 mpg depending on road/traffic/etc...

I wouldn't recommend recommend going from a 3.0TDI to a 2.0PD in standard form but i would certainly recomend it if you wish to have the car chipped, since I have had my car chipped (gone 140bhp standard up to 194BHP chipped) the transformation is amazing, so much more low down grunt (to the extent that full throttle in 2nd will spin the wheels in the dry and 3rd will in the wet) while economy has not changed a jot which for a big heavy car is really rather something!

Also worth noting is if the car you are looking to buy has done more than 50K miles i would recommend getting it Terracleaned, My Avant has recently just clicked over 104K miles and I had mine done last weekend, the difference in smoothness and response is night and day.

Overall mpg is 44mpg, thats with 40% town driving, 60% A road driving and the odd weekend jaunt down the M way.

Regards,
Martin

[gupsterg]

Thanks great info :) ... to all viewers keep'em coming as it may help another :grouphug: ...

My car is stock PS225 as far as I know... soon will be getting it checked if it have a remap... compared to other 3.0's I've driven didn't feel any different from them power wise...

My own view also is that a 2.0 with remap would satisfy power/driving dynamic...

I'm only contemplating change because of "the issue" with mine (not gonna expnad in this thread :Blush2:)...

I'm also interested in Terraclean are you able to post more info/experience here share/questioning Link:- Terraclean anyone?? (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?135413-Terraclean-anyone)

[EssexGonzo]

Gup

Good luck with your choice but for me this is about WANTS and NEEDS.

Personally I NEEDED and large car for long distances and good economy but WANTED a nicer house....so I prioritised accordingly.

Do you NEED a V6 with 4WD? Only you can answer, but for me I didn't need it....

Do you WANT a V6 with 4WD........? You pays yer money.........:biggthump And if it's high enough on your priority list , go for it!:beerchug:


If you badly want the 3.0 quattro but get a 2.0 you'll have all your needs met but you'll be left wanting more. However, if you have something else that's higher on the wish list, you might just be able to cope with the shocking downgrade to such a third world model.....:notworthy:puke:

[A6_MJM]

Will post my thoughts there now.

[Andrew Turner]

Will post my thoughts there now.

Bit off topic for this thread, but what rear diffuser have you got? Terracleaning sounds intreaguing, will check it out.

[gupsterg]

Hi ya EG :) ...


Gup

Good luck with your choice but for me this is about WANTS and NEEDS.

As you know have a 3.0 TDi it just being such a PITA that considering changing to a 2.0... my house is across the road from my work... I have no daily commute as such...

My van is driven for the business usually 3k-4k a year... my cars again usually 3-4K a year... I'v done 12K in the 3.0 TDi in 19mths of ownership...

When I got my current car I just fancied an Audi... needed an estate as have SWMBO & 3 kids... I thought estate be good for occasional business use/touring with family...

I looked at A6 (C5) 1.9 TDi's didn't find a good one/what I wanted and suddenly whilst researching the A6 (C6) seemed better, then whilst scanning Auto Trader the 3.0 TDi's caught my eye... seemed a no brainer to me to get as the package, 4WD/V6/TIP,etc,etc... running costs was not a deciding factor for purchase and never really is due to low miles a year...


If you badly want the 3.0 quattro but get a 2.0 you'll have all your needs met but you'll be left wanting more.

I've never had a car as powerful@stock as the A6 3.0 TDi... yes some past hot hatches may have compared in lift but the A6 as an SE does not scream look at me,etc,etc... my car is debadged because the 3.0 is for me to enjoy not to show off... it's one of the first cars which on occasions I control how much welly I give it, when in "S" mode the throttle response is mental in my books... at times it sends a tingle through me when driven spiritedly around a corner/floored on a straight...

Its the first car which I actually control speed as not to lose my license, very easily on m-way you could be doing speeds to land you in the dock!

So this is my predicament:-

i) live with "the issue"

ii) fix "the issue"

iii) sell car, use the knowledge gained to buy myself a 09+ 2.0 TDi and enjoy

iv) sell car, use the knowledge gained to buy myself a 09+ 2.0 TDi and I dislike it because I've had a 3.0 and drive more for pleasure then a need...

you might just be able to cope with the shocking downgrade to such a third world model.....:notworthy:puke:

I hope I've never come across as a V6 snob... I bought car as a treat for me & partners hard work and it has deflated us both with wants gone on...
I don't feel my expectations were that high on reliability and this car in my view has been shocking on issues...

[EssexGonzo]

I hope I've never come across as a V6 snob... I bought car as a treat for me & partners hard work and it has deflated us both with wants gone on...
I don't feel my expectations were that high on reliability and this car in my view has been shocking on issues...

You never have come across as such, not for a minute.

You have had the patience of a saint in dealing with the issues you've had. Whatever you decide, things can only go one way.....:beerchug:

[Whippy53]

My twopennworth for what it's worth, is that my current car is a 2.0ltr Passat, before that a 1.9 A4, before that a 1.9 passat and they were 'OK' the way that a glass of alcohol free lager is 'OK', I mean it slakes the thirst but do you enjoy it? The question you have to ask yourself is. will OK be enough? If it is, fine! triffic! enjoy! Me, as you know want to enjoy my next car, I want a 3.0ltr V6, but if things don't go to plan I might end up with the 2.0 ltr. Will I enjoy it? of course I will, every moment I'm in it. But it will have been a decision of the head, not the heart. But I also know that sometimes, when it's dark and the house is quiet, that noise you will hear will be me, quietly sobbing.

In life we all make choices and with God and the Fates on our side we sometimes get it right, I sincerely hope you do as well.

[gupsterg]

I understand mate :) ... that's me again all over... before marriage I buy what heart want... then for lengthy period it has been what head agree...

After a very long time I got again what heart want and it really bend me over and give me a good rogering!

But with you you will get dealer support, I went second hand and no lengthy support, some of the issues prior to the "the issue" been mental...

[c4a5er]

got again what heart want and it really bend me over and give me a good rogering!

:yikes: :biglaugh::biglaugh:

[Andrew Turner]

:yikes: :biglaugh::biglaugh:

pmsl :d

[UVB]

At least you would have somewhere to park the bike.

The bike could rust on the ground; I'd be so far up that, whoever pulled me out would be crowned King Arthur.

Too much?

[ruggedscot]

The decisions that you have to make - Im comming up on 4 years ownership - September Ill have had my car for four years, I plan on keeping it longer maybe even reach for the magic 200k mark - its just such a great car, and I mean this. The whole package ticks the boxes and Ive had a few cars - not a mad sports car fan but still appreciate a decent car. And the A6 is indeed a decent car. I did a lot of research and looked at a few before setting on the A6, however I have to say I drove a 2.0 TDi version and it was like day and night. This is the crux and its a huge consideration when making a decision. The A6 is a big car and its a heavy car - you think that a 2.0 would do the job but its no where in the same class - couple of instances pulling out I felt a little vulnerable and waiting on the turbo to start boosting - also the 4 cylinder feels a little more strained and rougher. The 3.0 4wd was a class above mine it feels more planted and you do know the difference with the 4wd. it feels more planted in the corners and you have the push as well as the shove.

I dont know if you would like a 2.0 after having a 3.0.....

Ive taken mine on some long trips and any time its done well and never let me down. Trip to Lake Garda - Edinburgh to Newcastle overnight ferry and then Amsterdam to Switzerland and then overnight before heading to Lake Garda in the morning. Great trip never missed a beat and went over the pass at Gerhard with no issues - Did I say I was pleased with my car ? Yep. V6 all the way !

[A6_MJM]

Hi Andrew,

Currently its the standard rear diffuser painted matt silver, but once i find a design i like that will change!

Regards,
Martin

[neilos100]

Hi Gup,
Been reading this thread for a while now so thought I'd throw in my opinions of the 2.0 Tdie.
Can't, so won't, talk about the 2.7 or 3.0.
So, I've had mine for almost two years now and its a facelifted 2009 model so does not have the PD engine, but the Direct Injection version.
When purchased it had 98Kmiles on the clock and I have added around 27k so its sitting at around 125K. In the two years I've owned it the only expenses I have had to shell out for, except fuel and other small 'mods' are the radio unit in the boot (£275), a service and a new cambelt. Nothing else has gone wrong with the car whatsoever, infact its probably been the most reliable car I've had.
Economy wise its been great, on a decent run I'll get in to the 50's and around town its in the high 30's. Drove to work Saturday, into Central London, Hyde Park Corner to be precise, from Uxbridge Part A40 and then slower city driving....was showing 47mpg on DIS when I parked up at work.
The engine pulls very nicely thank you, no issues in overtaking. And its smooth too.... doesn't have the clatter that the PD apparently suffers from. As you know I make a yearly (at least) trip to the Czech Republic, a round trip of over 2000 miles....its a very easy and relaxing drive in the Audi...cruises very nicely at 75-80 mph at 2000 rpm so no stress on the engine worth talking about. Never had any issues with turbo lag....put your foot down and it goes....I am not a formula one driver so dont need lightning quick acceleration, but this car is NOT a slouch....it'll still move quick enough if I want it to. It may not have the same acceleration as either of the V6's but that doesn't mean its sluggish.
For me at least it has the perfect mix of economy with enough power to overtake when I want.
The front wheel drive is perfectly good in snowy conditions when you have winter rubber fitted as my photos from CZ in another thread will attest so IMHO 4 wheel drive is at least in my case not necessary.

Neil

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Thank you :beerchug:... great post/info :approve: ...

Some one sent me an email about an Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TDi which come in quattro... got searching on Auto trader and seen a few 2009+ ones which float my boat...

Wife's still sunning it up in California so when she's back got few things to check & go over on Zesty ... if can't suss issue will see if can live with it...

If not I think hire a 2.0 A4/A6 for week or so then decide what I do...

Keep'em coming guys ;) ...