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DSG4ME
26-09-2011, 11:38 PM
Ok, I've had the pleasure of a VW machine today featuring the 1.8 TSi engine, coupled to a DSG.

At first I had hoped to get hold of a B7 but it wasn't to be, nevermind I've enjoyed the Golf tremendously, why I hear you ask, because I got to real world fuel test a petrol engine, as I'm looking to go light oil next time it's essential I got to have a proper play with a candidate, so here goes, the report

Car itself, nice, nippy and solid feel to it

Engine, 160 BHP iirc, she feels slower than she actually is

Gearbox, not sure if this is a dry clutch unit or not, noticed a bit of judder when creeping

Fuel, well here it is, I put £5 of UL in it tonight, prior to that I was running on what the last guy left in it, todays drive consists of a murderous traffic jam earlier and some stop start clear road tonight, I've driven it 28 miles so far and I suspect I've not drained it back down to the level when I got the car today, trip is showing 32mpg @ 15mph, this is roughly the same as my Passat only the Passat is slightly heavier and a 2.0 PD DSG. Real time figure I suspect is around 34mpg to £5 of gas, which remember isn't a gallon.

So, in summary would I consider this lump and box combo in a Passat next time, you bet, I have really enjoyed driving it today, I don't see the figures changing much between a Golf and Passat, and the real reward today is the car has around 6k on the clock but makes all the same noises my Passat has been worrying me about lately, so I'm happy to put that down to road condition prompting the extra sounds.

Hope this helps someone decide if a petrol lump could be for them next time, given that a derv lump is becoming a joke to keep otr.

DSG4ME
27-09-2011, 01:04 AM
OMG, I just ran it with the DVLA and it's a 1.4 TSi not a 1.8 as I originally thought.

Urban official for this car is 37 mpg

I sneered at this when I saw Skoda were fitting it to the Superb, well lemme tell ya, you wouldn't know it's a 1.4, roads allowing it will go from standstill to 50 mph just like that, very impressive for such a small lump.

Too good to be true, I'm about to grab the credit card and order (coughs) and I find out this has happened

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That is a turbo and a supercharger I believe, aka a mile of money when it goes wrong, still impressed with it though.

And look at this for vanity

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Tups1974
27-09-2011, 09:03 AM
I had this combo in a Golf with 2k on the clock, when my Passat was in having the injectors done, I found it very good around town but on the motorway I soon missed the Passat.

adro
27-09-2011, 10:02 AM
My wife has this engine in her Scirocco and round town it is 6 and 2 3's as to fuel consumption. On the motorway it is not as good 40mpg compared to 52mpg. It also lacks pull in 6th gear like a diesel on the motorway but great round town.

DSG4ME
27-09-2011, 02:07 PM
I won't consider it now due to the HW it's packing, but I have to say it's a nice effort from VAG, it certainly makes an ideal town car.

g-black
28-09-2011, 10:13 AM
All the mk5s have there lights like that and I think even some of the last shape polo (9n3). The 1.4 supercharged and turbo charged engine was first used in the mk5 GT. It was initially designed to go into the new GTi, but the 2.0 was the better choice. But they are getting alot more power from smaller engines now. The Golf R for example. More power than the R32, but from a 2.0 engine. And I think I'm right I'm saying you can even get a 1.2 turbo in the polo?

DSG4ME
28-09-2011, 04:52 PM
I'm wondering what they last like though, it's ok when it's brand new but in 60k it might feel a lot different, like the VX Cavalier J car, MK2 to you, this had either a 1.3 or 1.6 8V petrol engine in it, and the 1.3 didn't cut it at all, did the same to the Omega with the 4 CYL 2.2 DTi, replaced the 2.5 6 CYL BMW lump, whoosh became push overnight.

patomlin76
28-09-2011, 05:40 PM
It's the new push for performance vs economy vs road tax vs emissions

The new Seat Ibiza Cupra for example... a 1.4 TSI engine but a whopping 180bhp. Insurance is still very steep but emissions and road tax are greatly reduced from a non-turbo petrol lump.

In a way you're right about worrying about the hardware packed into the engine, however my next car has to be a diesel so which ever way I look at it, I'll have to have an engine with a turbo, which *can* go wrong. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and hope they've sorted out any reliability issues.