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volkswagen 1200
26-03-2011, 10:54 PM
My Audi A6 3.0 v6 Sport has developed the following problem/s today: -
On starting the car most of the warning lights illuminate in the dashboard and send off an alarm. After a few moments they all disappear and the car drives as normal.

On switching off the car the warning lights appear again. The dashboard remains illuminated and radio remains switched on and even if I lock the car. I switch off the radio manually and lock the car with the remote locking. After a short while (approx. one minute) the alarm sounds until I unlock the car.

There is no open windows or anything in the car to cause the alarm to go off.

This all started today. Can anyone suggest the problem which I suspect may be a faulty relay or fuse? :confused:

volkswagen 1200
28-03-2011, 03:22 AM
My Audi A6 3.0 v6 Sport has developed the following problem/s today: -
On starting the car most of the warning lights illuminate in the dashboard and send off an alarm. After a few moments they all disappear and the car drives as normal.

On switching off the car the warning lights appear again. The dashboard remains illuminated and radio remains switched on and even if I lock the car. I switch off the radio manually and lock the car with the remote locking. After a short while (approx. one minute) the alarm sounds until I unlock the car.

There is no open windows or anything in the car to cause the alarm to go off.

This all started today. Can anyone suggest the problem which I suspect may be a faulty relay or fuse? :confused:

I have since checked all the fuses which seem fine.

I now cannot lock the car by the remote or the key because the alarm sounds.

The instrument cluster continually flashes through various warnings in the driver display screen and the radio would play except I manually switch it off.

As soon as I switch the car on the warning alarm sounds but immediately goes out once I start the car.

As soon as I stop the engine the alarm sounds again.

The only thing that I can do to stop the warning in the cluster display and return the dashboard to normal is turn the instrument cluster left setting knob fully to the right and hold it there. Once I let go the instrument cluster illuminates with warnings again and the radio resumes playing.

I also ran a VCDS-lite diagnostics as follows: -

Chassis Type: 4B - Audi A6 C5
Scan: 01,02,03,06,08,15,16,17,18,34,35,36,37,45,55,56,57 ,65,67,75,76,77
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06C-909-559-ASN.LBL
Controller: 8E0 909 559 H
Component: 3.0L V6/5V G 0001
Coding: 0011752
Shop #: WSC 02325
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.LBL
Controller: 4B0 927 156 EN
Component: AG5 01V 3.0l5V RdW 0808
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4B0-614-517.LBL
Controller: 4B0 614 517 H
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 1728
Coding: 06397
Shop #: WSC 00000
1 Fault Found:
01119 - Gear Recognition Signal
35-10 - - - Intermittent

Software Coding: 07915
3 Faults Found:
01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring
35-00 - -
01561 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
59-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
01134 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
49-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent

Software Coding: 00462
6 Faults Found:
00667 - Ambient Temperature Signal
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
01176 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
07-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
00849 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
31-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01315 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
49-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
00562 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
29-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent

Can anyone tell me what the problem is? :Blush2:

iwaters
28-03-2011, 09:57 AM
Sounds like the instument cluster is on the way out.

Mine did this, lighting up all the time, funny noises, then alarm kept going off, eventually the immobilizer (which is in the dash pod) went and the car wouldn't start.

You will likely either need a new dash (£600 and has to be fitted by main dealer or independant with the dealer kit). Or you can send the dash to BBA Reman and others who can repair the dash pod, think it takes about 2-3 weeks to get it back though so no car whilst this happens.

I am a bit ocnfisued byt he VCDS scan, where are the other controllers? What happens when you scan address 17 Instruments?

yaman
28-03-2011, 12:06 PM
I would first check that the terminals along the bottom of
the relay board are all tight. Also the plugs that go into
the back of the instrument cluster.

Regards
Jim

kite
28-03-2011, 02:19 PM
check the front pax footwell for damp.
The CCM lives under the seat and is known to fail due to water ingress, have a search for "blocked plenumn drains"...

volkswagen 1200
28-03-2011, 09:05 PM
Sounds like the instument cluster is on the way out.

Mine did this, lighting up all the time, funny noises, then alarm kept going off, eventually the immobilizer (which is in the dash pod) went and the car wouldn't start.

You will likely either need a new dash (£600 and has to be fitted by main dealer or independant with the dealer kit). Or you can send the dash to BBA Reman and others who can repair the dash pod, think it takes about 2-3 weeks to get it back though so no car whilst this happens.

I am a bit ocnfisued byt he VCDS scan, where are the other controllers? What happens when you scan address 17 Instruments?

The missing ones came up with the message "unable to communicate".

volkswagen 1200
28-03-2011, 10:25 PM
Sounds like the instument cluster is on the way out.

Mine did this, lighting up all the time, funny noises, then alarm kept going off, eventually the immobilizer (which is in the dash pod) went and the car wouldn't start.

You will likely either need a new dash (£600 and has to be fitted by main dealer or independant with the dealer kit). Or you can send the dash to BBA Reman and others who can repair the dash pod, think it takes about 2-3 weeks to get it back though so no car whilst this happens.

I am a bit ocnfisued byt he VCDS scan, where are the other controllers? What happens when you scan address 17 Instruments?


I ran another analysis tonight as follows: -

Self-Diagnosis Log
Monday, 28 March 2011, 21:36:53:0
Mileage: 65875 Repair Order:
Chassis Type: 4B - Audi A6 C5
Scan: 01,02,03,06,08,15,16,17,18,34,35,36,37,45,55,56,57 ,65,67,75,76,77
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06C-909-559-ASN.LBL
Controller: 8E0 909 559 H
Component: 3.0L V6/5V G 0001
Coding: 0011752
Shop #: WSC 02325
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.LBL
Controller: 4B0 927 156 EN
Component: AG5 01V 3.0l5V RdW 0808
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4B0-614-517.LBL
Controller: 4B0 614 517 H
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 1728
Coding: 06397
Shop #: WSC 00000
2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01119 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
35-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent

3- ABS Brakes
Control Module Part Number: 4B0 614 517 H
Component and/or Version: ABS/ESP allrad 1728
Software Coding: 06397
2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01119 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
35-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent

17 - Instruments
Control Module Part Number: 4B0 920 981 K
Component and/or Version: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D10
Software Coding: 00462
6 Faults Found:
00667 - Ambient Temperature Signal
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00667 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
29-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
00849 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
31-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01315 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
49-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
00562 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
29-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent

I could not obtain readouts from most of the other controlers that I tried, instead just getting a "could not communicate" message.

The battery of the car is now being drained also.

volkswagen 1200
29-03-2011, 12:15 AM
I removed the instrument cluster tonight in order to take the part number off it. At the same time the battery had totally gone flat because of the fault.

Having replaced the instrument cluster and recharged the battery I now find that everything is working as normal again.

Am I wrong to think that everything could have been fixed from a basic 're-start' or is this problem going to return?

volkswagen 1200
29-03-2011, 02:09 AM
check the front pax footwell for damp.
The CCM lives under the seat and is known to fail due to water ingress, have a search for "blocked plenumn drains"...

I have lifted the mats and there is absolutely no damp anywhere to be found.

volkswagen 1200
29-03-2011, 02:10 AM
check the front pax footwell for damp.
The CCM lives under the seat and is known to fail due to water ingress, have a search for "blocked plenumn drains"...

I checked the passenger foot well and it is completely dry.

kite
29-03-2011, 11:51 AM
I think your problem was caused by the low battery voltage.

Padwick
29-03-2011, 12:15 PM
I think your problem was caused by the low battery voltage.

Yep I had this before too when my battery was on the way out. Never happened again once I changed it.
Most cars I've owned have had little dash gremlins due to this. I remember my last one used to ramp the rev and speedo needles right to the end and back to 0 when cranking the engine if the battery was low. Looked pretty cool though.

volkswagen 1200
29-03-2011, 10:58 PM
Yep I had this before too when my battery was on the way out. Never happened again once I changed it.
Most cars I've owned have had little dash gremlins due to this. I remember my last one used to ramp the rev and speedo needles right to the end and back to 0 when cranking the engine if the battery was low. Looked pretty cool though.

Thats cool, might try to make my car do that just to impress people :biglaugh:

Car is fine now after I charged the battery and drove it for a while today. I ran a VCDS check tonight and all came up clear so hoping low battery power was the cause of it all.