1000 miles on a tank!!!!!

[portsbruff]

can a remap on my Volks passat year 05 1.9 dti auto bring my 500 miles on a tank to about 1000 miles.

Or even better is there a kit that gives me a go faster button that affects the on board chip to go to 140bhb with a press of a button like the new cars of today

[Ben]

If there was, I'd have one by now.

[VeDubDan]

The new passat 1.6 TDI bluemotion does 1000 miles per full tank.

[Eshrules]

fuel tank size - 70l
quoted mpg = 64.2
quoted miles per tank = 998.6

that's perfect world, optimistic figures. Hardly realistic to say that it's capable of the 1000 miles per tank. Although one can hope ;)

[VeDubDan]

but it is isn't it? It is capable of doing 1000 per full tank.

Like you say in reality you won't hit that. But it is reassuring to know that the car CAN do it if the driver wants it too.

[Sam]

but it is isn't it? It is capable of doing 1000 per full tank.

Like you say in reality you won't hit that. But it is reassuring to know that the car CAN do it if the driver wants it too.

If the driver drove on a rolling road in a laboratory, yes.

[VeDubDan]

VAG are investing in creating cars that do more MPG. Better for you, the environment, and your wallet.

If they make a car and saying it'll do a 1000 miles per full tank, you can't winge and say "oh yeah Mr VW, whatever, that's a 1000 miles with just me in it on a rolling road"

If VW said " No, we're not creating any improved MPG cars from now on" I'm sure people will moan about that.

Eee - Damned if they do and damned if they don't!

[Sam]

VAG are investing in creating cars that do more MPG. Better for you, the environment, and your wallet.

If they make a car and saying it'll do a 1000 miles per full tank, you can't winge and say "oh yeah Mr VW, whatever, that's a 1000 miles with just me in it on a rolling road"

If VW said " No, we're not creating any improved MPG cars from now on" I'm sure people will moan about that.

Eee - Damned if they do and damned if they don't!

I wasn't aware I was moaning and apologise profusely for you reading something in my post that wasn't actually there.

My understanding was that economy figures were gleaned from lab testing. If I'm wrong, let me know.

Real world figures differ wildly because of external factors such as road surfaces, load, weather, traffic, etc etc.

[VeDubDan]

you're right - that are from conditional lab test.

Ar well, sorry to have a pop. I misread the message.

:beerchug:

[DropKickMurphy]

i think there is a simple answer to this one. if you want to do 1000 miles on a tank get a bigger tank. :D:D:D

strictly speaking MPG is irrelevant to the question you posed.

DKM

[portsbruff]

1000 Miles on a tank lol Even if i get 800 miles on a tank i wouldnt mind :biglaugh:

This is the Question slightly Different lol. If i Remapped my car to make my car do more miles on a tank what would be the best i would get with this car
1.9 tdi Auto 74kw

[phil miller]

just to add by using the heated seats, heater, lights even the radio will lower MPG, a head wind over 300miles will reduce this aswell, ive spent the last month or so wieghting up if its worth fitting a 6 sp box to incease my mpg if my working is correct the box will pay for its self in 12,000 miles (ive done 20,000 in the last yr) the OP is like me trying to find a way to make fuel last longer and fair play, in north yorkshire on saturday i paid £1.49.9 a lt :zx11:

[johnloaderuk]

ive spent the last month or so wieghting up if its worth fitting a 6 sp box to incease my mpg if my working is correct the box will pay for its self in 12,000 miles:zx11:

Phil, not quite sure how your working goes here, but quite often a 6 speed box doesn't increase economy. My wife's last Passat had a 5 speed box, her current Passat has a 6 speed box. The rpm in top gear at the same speed are the same on both gearboxes, it's just the 6 speed has a closer ratio box, fitting an extra gear between 1st and 6th. The economy on both cars is the same. The closer ratio box just makes it more driveable. It's not an extra gear ratio above 5th, as many people think. I'd save your time and money if I were you - but that's just my opinion.

Back to the original question of can you get 1000 miles to a tank. I have a 2.0 TDI 140 Bluemotion Technology Passat. If you drive within the speed limits on a motorway all day long, as I often do with cruise on at a constant speed, the best I've seen is average 68mpg (MFD reading) on a long run. I ran the tank right down, filled it right up, and despite the manual stating a 70 litre tank according to the pump I put 71.5 litres in (and still wasn't quite empty). I did the maths which gave an actual figure of 66mpg. This would equate at 70 litres @ 66mpg to just over 1000 miles to a tank. Maybe if I drove slower it would do better still.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/05/vw-sets-single-tank-distance-record-with-1-527-mile-passat-bluem/

[Sam]

Phil, not quite sure how your working goes here, but quite often a 6 speed box doesn't increase economy. My wife's last Passat had a 5 speed box, her current Passat has a 6 speed box. The rpm in top gear at the same speed are the same on both gearboxes, it's just the 6 speed has a closer ratio box, fitting an extra gear between 1st and 6th. The economy on both cars is the same. The closer ratio box just makes it more driveable. It's not an extra gear ratio above 5th, as many people think. I'd save your time and money if I were you - but that's just my opinion.

The 6th cog would add extra weight but the etching of the gear knob to add another tiny line and the number 6 would subtract a little weight.

Having a dump before driving should offset any weight added by that pesky 6th cog though.

[Eshrules]

I can't say I noticed a massive economy gain sitting in 6th, as opposed to 5th in the Golf but it was rather nice to cruise in on the m.way.

[Mini Mark]

I agree 6th makes crusing on the motorway quiter. Trouble is getting out of the GOlf into the MK2 Mini is fun as its only got 4 gears and my 99 mini has 5 I regularly try for an extra gear which cuases the mini to protest a bit:biglaugh:

[The Fingers]

well it seems as though this has been done and tested by the sunday times.

1000 plus out of a full tank using an un modified production passat bluemotion.............Done!!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/features/article7132481.ece

I would never get these kind of figures with the kind of driving i do, but it shows that this is not claims made in a lab on a rolling road but is independantly tested.

[phil miller]

Phil, not quite sure how your working goes here, but quite often a 6 speed box doesn't increase economy. My wife's last Passat had a 5 speed box, her current Passat has a 6 speed box. The rpm in top gear at the same speed are the same on both gearboxes, it's just the 6 speed has a closer ratio box, fitting an extra gear between 1st and 6th. The economy on both cars is the same. The closer ratio box just makes it more driveable. It's not an extra gear ratio above 5th, as many people think. I'd save your time and money if I were you - but that's just my opinion.

Back to the original question of can you get 1000 miles to a tank. I have a 2.0 TDI 140 Bluemotion Technology Passat. If you drive within the speed limits on a motorway all day long, as I often do with cruise on at a constant speed, the best I've seen is average 68mpg (MFD reading) on a long run. I ran the tank right down, filled it right up, and despite the manual stating a 70 litre tank according to the pump I put 71.5 litres in (and still wasn't quite empty). I did the maths which gave an actual figure of 66mpg. This would equate at 70 litres @ 66mpg to just over 1000 miles to a tank. Maybe if I drove slower it would do better still.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/05/vw-sets-single-tank-distance-record-with-1-527-mile-passat-bluem/

That might be True but ive driven a few mk5 Golf 2 lt TDI's and at 70mph in 6th the RPM is 500 less than mine, also after looking at MPG figures thoses with the 6 sp box do about 5 mpg more than the 5 sp, and the other way to look at it at some point i will have to change my DMF and clutch so its a case of one out and another in, the money the 6 sp cost me i will get that all day long for my 5sp but it will prob stay sat in my shed until someone says they need a box and i will remember its there lol

[scotty33]

I agree, the 6 speed box adds nothing in that the ratio for 6th is 'generally' the same as the ratio for fifth in an equivalent 5 speed. If you can find one that has different ratio's you could be onto a winner.
One point I heard from taxi drivers is that 6 speed passat/superb models give better mpg around town when driven in fifth. Not sure how accurate that is but an opinion
Some US tdi fuel sippers fit an alternative 5th gear pairing, only to their 5 speed boxes, to give a more overdriven ratio for better cruising mpg.

[Darsh_Concept]

I'm getting 650 miles out of my Passat (140bhp 2.0 TDI Bluemotion) It's a company Car but I want a firmer ride and a bit more poke... Does anybody know if I can make a Re-Map and Firmer ride un-detectable? I know this car has potential to be much more appealing than my Insignia but right now, the drive isn't anything like as enjoyable.

[portsbruff]

No One has Said About Remaping a passat not for Exceleration. Only for Increasing the miles on a tank (can it be done and would it be worth it)
los of Exceleration for Miles ?

[phil miller]

No One has Said About Remaping a passat not for Exceleration. Only for Increasing the miles on a tank (can it be done and would it be worth it)
los of Exceleration for Miles ?

Normally a remap gives both, increase in MPG and performance, ive had mine done and i cant recommend it enough

[Darsh_Concept]

No One has Said About Remaping a passat not for Exceleration. Only for Increasing the miles on a tank (can it be done and would it be worth it)
los of Exceleration for Miles ?

I've read this a few times and I can't decide what you're trying to say?

But no, if a remap were to cost you acceleration, you would just need your toe down for much longer to get upto speed/overtake etc... It's the economy of power vs weight that enables a car to get up to, and to be held at speed that rewards you with better economy. I want to have mine remapped but I need to make sure it's disguised so the Company don't know :1zhelp:

[phil miller]

I've read this a few times and I can't decide what you're trying to say?

But no, if a remap were to cost you acceleration, you would just need your toe down for much longer to get upto speed/overtake etc... It's the economy of power vs weight that enables a car to get up to, and to be held at speed that rewards you with better economy. I want to have mine remapped but I need to make sure it's disguised so the Company don't know :1zhelp:


A few months ago there was a thread about the MOT test checking if a car has been mapped or not and if it had then the car will fail :confused: a remap done by uploading a new map (not a plug in box that stays fitted) is very hard to be spotted, i dont think your company would ever be able to find out......unless someone you work with or for read this forum:p do it, and enjoy the gains :D

[portsbruff]

I've read this a few times and I can't decide what you're trying to say?

But no, if a remap were to cost you acceleration, you would just need your toe down for much longer to get upto speed/overtake etc... It's the economy of power vs weight that enables a car to get up to, and to be held at speed that rewards you with better economy. I want to have mine remapped but I need to make sure it's disguised so the Company don't know :1zhelp:
All i want to know is can i get 800 miles if i remap my 1.9 TDI AUTO insted of 520 miles

[adamss24]

all i want to know is can i get 800 miles if i remap my 1.9 tdi auto insted of 520 miles
no...

[portsbruff]

A Tank of diesel costs me About 75Euro for About 540 Miles andDiesel is due to go up a lot more. The days are nearly gone for 140Brake plus. My mate gets at best 240Miles on his Calibrer Petrol lol. Can Anyone tell me whats the best milage i could get if i remapped my Passat 1.9 TDI AUTO. In the past people wanted to remap to increase there brake. not many go the other way lol

[scotty33]

Some if not all remappers offer economy remaps these days.
As I understand it, even a car remapped with performance in mind will return better mpg's when driven sensibly.
There are constraints on engine manufacturers which means they have to meet environmental requirements and noise limits, this limits the way an engine can be mapped at the factory, but a remapper can tweak these things further.
Settings like injection timing for example, could improve economy and possibly boost performance at the same time. altering fuel quantities and boost pressure can improve cruising mpg but as said, would be worse for mpg when the extra performance were used.
I don't know if such a thing exists but what might be ideal is if a 'performance' remap were applied to wide open throttle only (sorry I'm a petrolhead at heart, no throttle as such with diesels!), but economy remap for everywhere below 99%?

[EADON]

You all worry about your MPG to much :D

Try being a 21 year old with 2.0T power at your foot, im lucky to get 30mpg! Hahaa

But impressive stuff from the BlueMotion Passat!

[portsbruff]

You all worry about your MPG to much :D

Try being a 21 year old with 2.0T power at your foot, im lucky to get 30mpg! Hahaa

But impressive stuff from the BlueMotion Passat!


As i Say to my Son Its Easy to go fast all you do is press the peddle. But Try and drive SLOW not every man can do it( its very hard to go slow in a fast car)
and anyway with a car like that u must have a good job to feed the petrol:biglaugh:

[EADON]

As i Say to my Son Its Easy to go fast all you do is press the peddle. But Try and drive SLOW not every man can do it( its very hard to go slow in a fast car)
and anyway with a car like that u must have a good job to feed the petrol:biglaugh:

I know exactly what you mean and funnily enough, made a similar comment to a friend yesterday.

I genuinely do find it a challenge to keep it smooth and under control, trying not to let it boost at lower speeds. Great fun trying though! :D

I'll get used to it soon enough, only had it 2 weeks! And yes my job pays quite well for my age i'd say. Im a CNC machinist.

[theskyfox]

I think my 3.0TDi can do 1000 miles to a tank...if I strap these to the back....

http://nairobichronicle.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/t72aj_7.jpg

[portsbruff]

As i Say to my Son Its Easy to go fast all you do is press the peddle. But Try and drive SLOW not every man can do it( its very hard to go slow in a fast car)
and anyway with a car like that u must have a good job to feed the petrol:biglaugh:

I was a programmer 2 years ago never go back again and my money was ****!!! all the m00 and g03 g04 (Im free lol)