Retrofitting Multi Funtion Steering Wheel - covers everything including part numbers and vagcom coding

[A4 Lad]

Hi folks. I was not too sure where to post this so I have put it here and in the wanted section.
I am going to buy a multi function steering wheel off Ebay with the red SLine badge on the bottom. Brand new for £150.

First of all, I was going to ask if anyone on the forum is selling one or knows of any of the flat bottom steering wheels that they could offer me instead ?

Second thing is that I just have the normal wheel on mine, I take it that I might just have to buy an extra loom for the steering wheel to work off the new buttons and possibly a recode with VCDS ?

Any help will, as always, be very much appreciated :)

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[A4 Lad]

Ok, I bought this one in the end from Ebay after trying a few sponsers from the site but they didnt have them. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140498184318&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

Sorry, ignore that link as the seller changed the item number. It is a brand new Audi A4 wheel the exact same as that link but without the paddles as my car is a manual.

[a8 tech]

see here http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=52211&highlight=dis+cruise

[A4 Lad]

see here http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=52211&highlight=dis+cruise
WOW A8, thats an amazing walk through and very informative indeed.
So ill first need to check my air bag slip ring to see if it has all 20 pins occupied on the loom side. If not, ill need a new loom and slip ring.
Secondaly purchase the steering control module that you mentioned.
Then ill need to recode them all.
Is this correct ?
When you mention the part numbers for the control unit and the loom, you say either Q or R for control unit or A or B for slip ring. Why and how do I know which I need ?
I never get a chance to thank you by the THANK button A8, as im normally just on iphone, but im on the laptop now so I have today:beerchug:

Does this sound a fair price for the slip ring considering its damaged ? Are they expensive new A8 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-A4-AIRBAG-SLIP-RING-STEERING-SENSOR-4E0-953-541-/180570623855?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a0ad90f6f

[a8 tech]

post a scan for address 16 to identify your steering control unit

if it ends with Q or R then that's ok

the loom for the muti function will defiantly require replacing

then its just a case of identifying if you have the correct slip ring

coding is very easy

you adjust the code in address 16 to enable the mfsw controls

if you have radio you adjust the code to add

if you have telephone same again

i will walk you through it

Thanks for the thanks on the dis and cruise thread, its the first ever thanks and it been used by 1000's of people including ebay sellers

The thread has never made sticky status although it covers B6 & B7 DIS AND CRUISE PLUS MFSW

Glad to see someone shows a little appreciation lol

[A4 Lad]

No problems at all A8, you have been extremely helpfull tonme over the time of being on the forum and I very much appriciate it indeed. I take it that this is good news then ? http://184.72.239.143/mu/5e0e7a61-03c9-d2c9.jpg
What do you think about the above ebay link for the slip ring ? Stay away ?


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[a8 tech]

control unit is spot on

whip the airbag off and disconnect the yellow connector off and count the pins on the slip ring

ebay slip ring has abroken lug so leave it, try german ebay wink wink

off line for a few hours now

[A4 Lad]

Ok, done that and I think this is where my luck runs out :(
It has 12 pins of which only the top row of 6 are occupied.
http://184.72.239.143/mu/5e0e7a61-3e4f-bc38.jpg


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[a8 tech]

You need to upgrade the steering angle sensor

I have posted your picture to the dis thread to help others

[a8 tech]

The ebay link I removed turned out to be the A8 slip ring


this is the correct p/n

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz287/b6lover/slipring.jpg?t=1295206799

[A4 Lad]

You need to upgrade the steering angle sensor

I have posted your picture to the dis thread to help others

No probs about picture, hope it helps others.
Ok so the steering angle sensor which is built into the airbag slip ring and the wiring from the slip ring to the wheel is all I need then ?
Im off to ebay it now.

How do you say Slip Ring in German lol



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[A4 Lad]

Ok, found this but it does not give a letter after the part number. I have messaged the China man through the German ebay so I am not to hopefull that they will respond in english lol but it does look like it has all the pins but I know looks can be decieving
http://184.72.239.143/mu/5e0eda16-583e-3107.jpg
http://184.72.239.143/mu/5e0eda16-586b-fd28.jpg

Also found this which the seller claims came off a top of the range Scirocco flat bottomed wheel. No part number so I have messaged him to see.
http://184.72.239.143/mu/5e0eda16-5b62-5783.jpg


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[A4 Lad]

Is the part number for the loom that I need still just 4F0 971 589 A ?


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[a8 tech]

4F0 971 589 A is correct

[A4 Lad]

Ok, i have emailed lots of folk to see if anyone has them and I am going to try TPS tomorrow to see how much they are and maybe just even get them if they are not too dear. Was too busy today doing clutches and flywheels on TDCI Mondeos ( yuk !!! ) to give them a call. No one have any lying in their bottom drawer of their roll cab ? lol


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[A4 Lad]

UPDATE - Phoned TPS - Slip Ring is a pricey bugger at £160 + Vodka And Tonic and the wiring loom is only £13.
I managed to track a slip ring off ebay for £62 delivered and I ordered the wiring from TPS.
Should be all ready to install by mid - next weekend


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[phil miller]

that sounds a good price mate for the loom and slip ring

[Ben]

Bangorlad,

I am impressed with you technique with your posting screen dumps from your mobile. Impressive.

[A4 Lad]

Bangorlad,

I am impressed with you technique with your posting screen dumps from your mobile. Impressive.

Its easy done Ben. No matter what screen you have on the iphone, you just hold the front button and press the power button once and it takes a snap shot and stores it in your pictures. Dead handy for pictures that dont allow the function of saving them.
I use my phone for the forum all the time as its so handy to just pick it up and press one button rather than power up laptops, goto favorites and log in.
Only bad thing about using the phone is that it does not have the THANK button option to show my appreciation to you guys for helping me out.

Phil - its all turning out a little more than I thought at the start but thats another bad thing about using the phone. Ebay is too handy to use. Had the idea of a new steering wheel and before you know it, im over £200 deep :)
Its all good fun though and what else would we spend our money and time on ? I suppose there is the wife but… ;)


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[phil miller]

great tip for the screen shot on the iphone i would never have worked that out, do you know how to unlock the iphone to other networks?

i havent used my iphone on forums yet but i do have that tapatalk for forums is it easy to use?
i know what you mean ive had yesterday and today off work and ive spent prob £50 on things i wouldnt of if id been at work:Blush2:

[A4 Lad]

Yea, the tapatalk really is easy. When you use it you will see. Quite addictive really ! The way that it logs you on, you get to see every recent post too. I like it.


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[phil miller]

Yea, the tapatalk really is easy. When you use it you will see. Quite addictive really ! The way that it logs you on, you get to see every recent post too. I like it.


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i will have to give it a try :beerchug:

[A4 Lad]

Having a little trouble with the ring A8, will 4E0 953 541 A do or will it have to be B ?

Or this ebay item 120673704099


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[a8 tech]

Airbag slip ring 4E0953541A or B will do the job

[A4 Lad]

Airbag slip ring 4E0953541A or B will do the job

;) thank you.
For future searchers, A superseeds to B ( they are the same part )


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[A4 Lad]

coding is very easy

you adjust the code in address 16 to enable the mfsw

i will walk you through

A8 :) Im going to do the fit on Saturday. Can you help ? I have bluetooth through the car already




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[a8 tech]

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A4_%288E%29_Steering_Wheel#Coding

change the code to x4xxx:


http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A4_%288E%29_Telephone_Preparation#Coding

xxx1xxx:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_Radio_Generation_II#Coding

0xxxxx? add 4 to this digit

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A4_%288E%29_Instrument_Cluster_%288EC/8ED/8HE%29#Coding


channel 062: CAN-Databus Infotainment (Installation List)


add value 2 = Telephone (Optional)

this is the dash bus to show the phone on the dash but it might already be set


let me know how you go on and if you get stuck use the label files on vcds, its always easier when the vcds is connected to explain the code changes

[A4 Lad]

Fantastic info A8 as always !!
Changed the control unit coding as you described and my wheel is now lighting up and controlling the radio !!
Thank you soo much again.
Do you know what the MODE button, the HEAD with waves coming out of his mouth and what the right hand rolling switch should do when pressed down as none of these operate ?http://184.72.239.143/mu/5284f829-f2cc-8a3b.jpg

[a8 tech]

mode switches from radio to phone

the other is push to talk for voice control of the phone

pair your phone and retry

if it still not working revisit the code changes in address 77 and 16

at work so quick answer

address 16Audi A4 (8E) Steering Wheel
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Contents [hide]
1 Coding
2 Adaptation
2.1 Channel 081: Vehicle Data Learning

Coding
0?xxx: Steering Wheel
0 = Standard (without Multifunction)
1 = 3-Spoke Steering Wheel (Sport Steering Wheel)
2 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio Control
3 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio/Telephone Control
4 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio/Telephone/Voice Control
5 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio/Voice Control
0x?xx: Options
+1 = Tiptronic
0xx?x: Board Computer & Cruise Control
0 = Board Computer & Cruise Control not installed
1 = Board Computer installed
2 = Cruise Control installed
4 = Board Computer & Cruise Control installed
0xxx?: Rear Wiper (Chassis)
1 = Rear Wiper not installed (Sedan/Cabriolet)
2 = Rear Wiper installed (Avant)




make sure multifunction with radio and phoneand voice control added

0?xxx ? should be value 4


go to
address 77

make sure bluetooth is activated

Adaptation
Bluetooth
[Select]
[77 - Telephone]
[Adaptation - 10]
Channel 133
[Read]


0 = Bluetooth OFF
1 = Bluetooth ON

then check this

Hands Free Function
[Select]
[77 - Telephone]
[Adaptation - 10]
Channel 134
[Read]


0 = Hands-free active while Bluetooth connection is active but without cell phone engaged
1 = Hands-free only active with cell phone engaged

recheck code in 77
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A4_(8E)_Telephone_Preparation#Adaptation

0xxx?xx: Installation List
1 = Diagnostics via CAN
2 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel, Diagnostics via CAN
3 = Head Unit (e.g. RNS-E), Diagnostics via CAN
4 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel, Head Unit (e.g. RNS-E), Diagnostics via CAN
5 = Diagnostics via K-Line
6 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel, Diagnostics via K-Line
7 = Head Unit (e.g. RNS-E), Diagnostics via K-Line
8 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel, Head Unit (e.g. RNS-E), Diagnostics via K-Line

change this to value 6

post all your codes up or a full log and i will look after

better go boss is here arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[A4 Lad]

http://184.72.239.143/mu/5e0eec3b-0c0c-9ceb.jpghttp://184.72.239.143/mu/5e0eec3b-0c20-c974.jpg

Ok, I got it working A8 :) Thank you very much indeed. I have taken pictures of the adaption values and have done a full scan to show what codings that I have used. Thank you sooo much again.

Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6/B7
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65 67
69 75 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8E36A087331 Mileage: 183580km/114071miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 910 115 Q HW: 8E0 907 115 D
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030
Revision: --H10--- Serial number:
Coding: 01040003180F0120
Shop #: WSC 00590 210 87518
VCID: 2F6618D4C79B

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 E HW: 8E0 614 517 AL
Component: ESP8 quattro H05 0120
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0004526
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2952F6CCF97F

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 BJ
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 2832
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 6AD0C9C03CF9

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 L
Component: int. Lastmodul ECE 0504
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 06334
VCID: 3B7E3C8403E3

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 G HW: 8E0 959 655 G
Component: Airbag 9.41 H11 3530
Revision: 91H1135 Serial number: 0036M0073VK6
Coding: 0033622
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 3B7E3C8403E3

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0601
Coding: 04041
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 41824E6C610F

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 951 F HW: 8E0 920 951 F
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H12 0110
Revision: 0110 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0007441
Shop #: WSC 00012 044 13423
VCID: 2D5A02DCCD97

No fault code found.

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 8E0-951-177.lbl
Part No: 8E0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0804
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: EBDE4CC4B303

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 CA
Component: Komfortgerát T3B 3332
Coding: 06911
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 72E0D1A01429

Part No: 8E2959802F
Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0406

Part No: 8E2959801B
Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0205

Part No: 8E0959801A
Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0205

Part No: 8E0959802A
Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0205

1 Fault Found:
01560 - Passenger Door
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 8E0 035 186 D
Component: concert II GRO 0004
Coding: 01027
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 2854F3C8E275

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 8E0-919-283-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 919 283 B HW: 8E0 919 283 B
Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H06 0020
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 00067802020524
Coding: 0000104
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2F6618D4C79B

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 C HW: 8P0 862 335 C
Component: FSE_255x BT H18 0160
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: 00000000287735
Coding: 0001622
Shop #: WSC 00590 210 03417
VCID: 36682DB038C1

No fault code found.

End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

[Mike2.0TQ]

Good work there Bangor Lad, looks smart, is that a 2nd hand wheel or new? Did you already have cruise and DIS?

I hope you don't mind me being rude and asking how much everythign cost - really missing my MFSW but still debating the need to cost ratio!!

Well done, you must be chuffed!!

Mike.

[A4 Lad]

Thanks Mike, yes, its all second hand. I already had cruise and if the DIS is the display in the dash, yes, I had that too

Steering Wheel £100
Airbag SlipRing & Wire £68

I have another steering wheel that is brand new but did not fit my airbag. It looks really well.

http://184.72.239.143/mu/5e0eec3b-6d28-dc19.jpg

Ebay Item number 130477618129

I would rather of had that one as it has the S Line badge on it but as I said, it didnt fit my airbag





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[Mike2.0TQ]

very nice - I'm sure A8 tech said you could fit an S-Line badge? They cost 20 odd quid though!!

Mike.

[A4 Lad]

What does STICKY mean ?
Its on the start of this thread now :confused:

[lscolman]

Hi Bangor,

I had planned to get the S-Line badged wheel from a 2008 A3.

Why did your existing airbag not fit? Was it physical size or cabling? Do you think it was a difference between A3 and A4 designs?

I've also got another multi-function wheel from a 2007 A4. I was led to believe that the airbags are all the same for the B7 models, and am now worried that it won't fit?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers, Lee

[A4 Lad]

Thats the wheel that I had ( A3 one ) and my airbag would not fit into it as the steering wheel hole was too shallow. On investigating after, I found that this was the case with A3

[lscolman]

Hi Bangor,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I have my eye on this one :-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280644158425&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

It looks deeper in the pics than the one you had. I've asked the seller to advise how deep the area for the air bag is. I have another MFSW wheel ready to go, but when I saw you could get an S Line badged one, I would prefer this one fitted.

How much did the airbag stick out when you tried it?

Cheers, Lee

[A4 Lad]

Your just right, if I could, I would have went for the one with the S Line badge. I think you will be fine with that one on the link. The one that I got had 2 holes on the bottom of the base where the airbag sits, where as your one on the link and the one that I got in the end to fit ( from a 2010 A5 ) only had one hole.
The airbag stuck out about 2 or 3 cm

[A4 Lad]

Sorry Lee, Im using the iphone and have only noticed that the wheel that you are going for DOES have 2 holes, one is hiden under the metal disc, I honestly think that even if your airbag does fit, this extra hole will stop your slipring engaging properly and will snap it the first time that the wheel is turned. The only alternative that I could think of would be to block the second hole with JB weld or something along the line of a blanking plate although thats all getting a bit messy. Personally I would leave her Lee but I might be wrong

[A4 Lad]

This being your wheel that your interested in.
Note the 2 holes at the base of the wheel towards the bottom
http://184.72.239.143/mu/5e02077a-6b71-f40d.jpg

[A4 Lad]

Where as this, is the wheel that your slip ring will need to release the locking tabs. Note only the one hole at the bottom left
http://184.72.239.143/mu/5e02077a-6be8-f48b.jpg

[Boki_]

Hello everyone. I must say this is excellent thread and helped me a lot with putting B8 MFSW in my B7 2.5TDI multitronic.

I was just random surfing on ebay and notice this steering wheel: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350529327519#ht_11623wt_1396

Would it fit maybe into B7? I noticed that the connector looks pretty similar, but I'm not sure as well as if all of those buttons are supported?

I now have "regular S-line MFSW" from B8 (looks nicer with alu around MF :)), and have multitronic transmission, can I upgrade to steering wheel with shift knobs, would it fit multitronic?

This may be offtopic, but I'd just like to know if I replace my old RNS-E display with newer version display, which has greater resolution, would it work or would be the same resolution? Does it depends on graphic output on unit maybe?

Thank you and kind regards to all!

[pablo66]

Guys
this is one of the best threads i have ever read on the different forums and hopefully will be using it when I change my 4 spoke standard wheel to a 3 spoke mfsw on my a4 avant b7 model the only thing I am really worried about is the air bag going off any good ideas how to this safely.
one other thing I notice on the bay you dont get the cover for the front of the steering wheel can these be bought seperately ?

[A4 Lad]

Thank you. As far as the cover for the steering wheel.... do you mean the airbag ?

[pablo66]

A4 thanks for the quick response I hoped yourself or A8 would respond, what I mean by the front cover would be the unit you press for the horn sorry I didnt give a better description.
I am not to far from yourself about a hour on the M1 might be asking a few more questions of you in the near future if thats ok with you still a bit worried about the airbag do as one went off on a friend of mine and wasnt that nice,by the way did you connect your phone through the audi system I am asking as I removed a parrot ck3100 from my previous jeep and was wondering can they be made to work with the steering wheel.
Sorry for all the questions but I cant wait to get a MFSW fitted,thanks again

[A4 Lad]

http://img.tapatalk.com/02de47e5-9d8b-6791.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/02de47e5-9d9a-6e59.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/02de47e5-9da4-5d97.jpg

No worries at all Pablo, ask away. The steering wheel only comes in 2 main parts. The wheel itself and the airbag which slots into it ( see pictures )
As far as the phone. I turned my bluetooth on and searched while in the car. It ended up that my standard Audi Concert stereo has bluetooth built in which only needed paired with the phone to get it to work.

[pablo66]

16368a4 just flicking through the bay and came across this what do you think I read on your thread that you had trouble getting the air bag to fit on one of your wheels and you said you need to purchase the wheel with only one hole in it on the left bottom is the steering wheel in the picture the type you talk about ? also while flicking through the bay I was lookig for a slip ring with the part number you a nd a8 quoted (4fo971589a or b and cant really find that one but plenty others
I am looking for these as i persume I will need to change the parts as I only have the standard 4 spoke wheel, can you give me a list of all the parts you had to change to get your wheel working,cheers a4

[A4 Lad]

Airbag slip ring 4E0953541A or B will do the job

It has to be one of these two.
Yes, that wheel will fit the above slip rings :)

[Mike2.0TQ]

Would you say there is much to go wrong with the slip ring? I am thinking of buying one from a breakers, my concern is that it's an integral part of the air bag and don't want any faults with any safety aspects? How much is a new one from Audi?

[Mike2.0TQ]

Hi,

Another question regarding the slip ring part number-is there always a letter at the end? I have found what I think is the right one, the number match perfectly but the seller says there is no letter at the end?

Thanks,

Mike

[a8 tech]

yes

[Zenerdiode]

Would you say there is much to go wrong with the slip ring? I am thinking of buying one from a breakers, my concern is that it's an integral part of the air bag and don't want any faults with any safety aspects?

The 'slip ring' has got a couple of kind of clock springs inside of it to carry the connection to the airbag. It is stressed that the slip ring is removed with the wheels in the straight-ahead position - and locked in position when off the car. If you can't guarantee this from your breaker then walk away. If in the wrong position and fitted to you car, the internals may break or short.

[LozW]

Hi,
Have had some fun trying to do the MFSW upgrade this weekend.
Almost got it done, but could use a little advice.
The last post has worried me a little. I got a slip ring from a breaker (came as a lump with the cruise, indicator and washer stalk). I have no idea whether it was taken off straight or not. Should I be worried? Fitted it today and it seems to work ok. Is there anything I need to check?
The question I was going to ask - I bought a used steering wheel. Looks in good condition and from the front looks exactly right. It came from a 2007/08 A4 (mine's 2005.5 A4 B7). I fitted the wheel this morning, but it scrapes against the steering assembly (not the cowling). Moves ok, but I wasn't happy with that - the original one doesn't at all. No part no. on the inside of wheel, but it has a yellow sticker that says 01 S on it.
Are there similar wheels that look identical? The only difference I could find was that on the back of the original wheel, the aluminium fitting is circular, whereas on the MFSW, it has a notch on each side - although I can't see that should make any difference.
Will an A3/A5/A6 wheel fit? Does anyone know the part no. I should be looking for?
Thanks in advance for any help!

[A4 Lad]

As far as part numbers, I would have to look on my laptop as they are in there somewhere but at the time, I had about 4 different types of wheel and as long as they had the correct back ( as above ) they were fine. There must be something touching if its rubbing. Maybe a file or removal of something is required. I dont think an A3 will fit as that is where I had went wrong but the one that I have on mine now is off an A5 so it fits :)

[LozW]

Thanks A4 Lad. Let me know if you can find any part nos.
Audi have given me part no. 8K0 419091 BGUN for a black MFSW to fit (my) B7.
I also spoke with the master tech about the slip ring. He's said that they are quite fragile - and that they have no way of establishing what the centre position is.
So unless you've removed it yourself from a vehicle with wheels straight, second hand ones aren't a great idea.
At £200 new, not that keen to buy a new one. Sounds as if most likely failure would result in a warning light, MF not working or horn not working. Obviously my main concern was that it might short out and deploy the airbag, but it sounds as if that's unlikely. Anyone know where to get one cheaper than from main dealer?
Is there any adjustment possible on the slip ring/control stalk position on the steering column? If I could adjust it down even by a mm, I don't think it would scrape.
Have tried filing, but it hasn't helped - and there's no obvious place to file it down anyway.
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Above is 'notched' end of MFSW. The original is just circular - otherwise can't see any difference at all.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

[LozW]

OK, done a bit more fiddling. There's a small allen bolt accessible through a hole on the lower cowling (need to lower rake/height adjust lever to get to it). By loosening that, it's possible to move the steering switch assembly. I pushed it away from the steering wheel as far as it goes and retightened. Now it only scrapes slightly for part of the turn to the left - and not at all when turning right. I can almost live with that. Starting to think the steering wheel is correct part, but very slightly mishaped. But not sure it's worth spending money on another. I'd be grateful for any thoughts.

Regarding centre position for slip ring... Have read that you can centre slip ring by removing it and very carefully turning it all the way in one direction until it's fully wound, then back the other way, counting the number of turns - and finally turning it back half the total number of turns. Seems to make sense. Has anyone tried that?
I have turned the wheel all the way left and right and it's not broken yet!

[LozW]

An update.
Bought another steering wheel (had been on an A3). It has the same back as the original and doesn't scrape at all. So it seems that there are (very slight) variants. After speaking to a trusted mechanic, checked slip ring while wheel was off. It is possible to check it's central by gently turning it fully to the left, then right and counting half way back. Turned out mine was already central. I also discovered that you can see the position of the clock springs thought the plastic, so was able to compare with my original slip ring for reassurance.

[A4 Lad]

Any pictures of the completed job ?

[pablo66]

Guys

A few more questions/options I am thinking of as I have always liked the mfsw
1.
I have a 4 spoke wheel at the moment and I was thinking of purchasing a 4 spoke mfsw wheel of the bay now I am just wondering if I do this can I use my existing slip ring and air bag and air bag cover and just have to buy the mfsw loom from a dealer and borrow my friends vcds unit.
2. there is a complete 3 spoke mfsw wheel and stalk and controls unit on the bay I am just better to buy this and fit it.
3. I have always preferred the 3 spoke mfsw units the only thing about this set up is I persume I can use the air bag but i will have to purchase a slip ring and reading some posts on here if it has not been centered you have to be carefull in setting it back up again true/false, and I have been looking on the bay for quiet a while now and I can only find air bag covers to suit the 4 spoke wheels.
any thoughts on this guys ?

[pule333]

Just finnished the install today:) fairly straight forward! Only none thing left to code it. Anyone with a vag-com around London? Beer on me :)

[LozW]

Just finnished the install today:) fairly straight forward! Only none thing left to code it. Anyone with a vag-com around London? Beer on me :)
Hi,
I'm in Croydon. That any good? PM me if so. Very happy to help.
Loz

[a8 tech]

think members using the info should hit the like button to the contributors :)

[pule333]

Many thanks to LozW! Who was kind enough to help me code my wheel today! All works beautifully!!!!

[constantinex13]

Hey All, seems like I have a problem performing this mod on my B7 A4.

I have an s-line wheel (with DSG Paddles) from a S4 B7 (8K0419091AKURS) and I can't figure out where the two 3-pin connectors from the spokes go (guessing this is for the paddles). I have a 16-pin S/C and control module ends in "R"

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(note the two 3-pin connectors on either side of the wheel)

I have no idea where these go :(

[constantinex13]

bump!

[constantinex13]

bump x2

[A4 Lad]

Glad to see this is still on the go [emoji16]

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[andyrawson]

Hi can anybody tell me if the flat bottom mfsw wheel from a 2015 a3 s line will fit my b7? I doubt all the functions will work as there’s more buttons but as long as the ones same on the earlier wheel work I’m ok with that.

[Countysaint]

Hi A8
Im a newby on here but have been looking for advice on retrofit Mfsw for Passat b5.5 2004
I have the Mfsw and the Mfsw relay 452
i have vcds. My car has the cruise control on the indicator stalks.
I bought a loom from Germany but don’t know if I need to retire anything or just activate the Mfsw via vcds?
Any help would be greatfully appreciated. 👍🏻

[andyrawson]

Hi I’m also a newbie, think we might have joined a dead site, doesn’t seem to be much activity on it