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  1. 2014 MOT Regs - DPF Removal 
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    Was on twitter last night and was reading through the new regulations being added to 2014 MOT testing and now includes DPFs. I've had my A6 remapped and had its DPF removed and I know a lot of you guys have done as well. My DPF has technically been gutted not removed so the pipe work is still there and the new regs mention DPF removal is now a fail from Feb 2014. Just wondering how we all stand? Here's the link about the DPF regulations - New rules for MOT to test for diesel particulate filter - Press releases - GOV.UK

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    I thought it was common knowledge that removing the DPF was going to end in tears sooner or later - the revised MOT standards have been discussed quite a few times on here...

     
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    thats the clincher, the bit about it exceeding the emissions regs for when it was built. so in 1994 there were no regs and a filter was voluntary, so my car is fine. in 2008, euro 4 (?) came in and most cars needed a dpf to pass. this sort is a true dpf that needs regenerating. earlier ones, like mine are a catalysing dpf that just fit and forget. so yes, if your car is post 2008 and you have removed the dpf, hope you have the receipt saying its quite legal to have it removed. pre 2008, you might be ok.
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    All the money companies spent on SEO marketing to peddle their 100% Legal* DPF removal services.

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    I knew that was bound to happen.
     
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    now people will just need to hope that the ecu can be reverse de dpf'd. if not, your 20k car could cost you about 5k to put back on the road. i can see a lot of unhappy people and a lot of companies disappearing overnight.
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  7. 2014 MOT Regs - DPF Removal 
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    MOT tester will never dismantle or closely inspect to see if everything is in place, the ones I have spoken to say this is impossible as they would need to know the ins and outs of every car on the market

    If your car looks intact with a gutted dpf with no obvious modifications and it passes the emissions test then it will pass the MOT - tester is not going to open the canister and see if it is gutter or not

    Same with remaps - an MOT tester is never going to know if the Ecu has been altered so there is no way to check this either - also the are not going to go digging around for Ecu piggy back units

    The new standards come with the best intentions but in reality it all looks intact from a quick viewpoint and the car passes the physical tests it will pass the MOT

    My questions would be only as follows
    - on eyeball inspection does the dpf appear to be there?
    - will your car with the dpf removal pass the emissions test?

    If the answer to both is yes then you will be fine
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhamilton View Post
    MOT tester will never dismantle or closely inspect to see if everything is in place, the ones I have spoken to say this is impossible as they would need to know the ins and outs of every car on the market
    If your car looks intact with a gutted dpf with no obvious modifications and it passes the emissions test then it will pass the MOT - tester is not going to open the canister and see if it is gutter or not
    Same with remaps - an MOT tester is never going to know if the Ecu has been altered so there is no way to check this either - also the are not going to go digging around for Ecu piggy back units
    The new standards come with the best intentions but in reality it all looks intact from a quick viewpoint and the car passes the physical tests it will pass the MOT
    My questions would be only as follows
    - on eyeball inspection does the dpf appear to be there?
    - will your car with the dpf removal pass the emissions test?
    If the answer to both is yes then you will be fine
    An MOT tester may not, but I can see this becoming the subject of random roadside inspections and I sense they will be more thorough.

    I particularly like this part from the link above

    Quote Originally Posted by gov.uk
    it is an offence to drive a vehicle that has been modified this way


    I can't see many firms being allowed to continue to remove the DPFs and claim what they're doing is legal and anybody who has their DPF removed knowing this is a fool - IMHO.

     
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    How long before they have an exhaust probe to analyse gasses?
     
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    that's the million $$ question - if they can create a simple tester that will 99.9999% accurately show if the DPF is missing then people are screwed

    but until then it's all a bit hit and miss

    - even roadside inspections don't go down to that level, they don't physically take your car to bits to check for stuff.. ... "just going to remove your Cat and cut it open to see if the core it there" " just going to remove all the bits from the engine bay to remove the DPF and open it up to see if the core is there" - this is just not going to happen

    And surely those companies who made money out of removing these systems can now make money putting them back in again
     
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