Steering torque sensor

**phil miller** · 13-11-2010,04:04 PM

hi all, thismorning i fitted my new coilovers to my golf any way that went fine, when i started her up i had the amber/tellow steering wheel on the dash (power steering was fine) so i have had in the past this light on and after a drive down the road it goes out, anyway on my way home the light went RED and i lost power steering, anyway i plugged it in at a garage on my way home using LAUNCH and it had a code of steering torque sensor, i deleted the code but my steering light is now RED all the time and i have no power steering, can someone please help?????

**onzarob** · 13-11-2010,09:18 PM

Hi Phil,

Just looking at the scan we did and I found this

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00573

Fault scan as below.

Code:

Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 F
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.2       1301  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2F43DD77C76F

2 Faults Found:
00573 - Steering Torque Sensor (G269) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
00573 - Steering Torque Sensor (G269) 
            008 - Implausible Signal

PS did you change anything to do with the steering wheel? My coding is 44 and yours is 22...might be it?

**phil miller** · 13-11-2010,09:21 PM

right i have since used VCDS to plug my car in Big thanks to Rob, your a star, and way i can not erase this code without it coming back, ive checked that i have power out of the 80 amp fuse by the battray and the fuse in the dash is fine, ive googled it and found that this fault could mean a new rack

here is what VCDS has to say

Saturday,13,November,2010,19:01:16:34667
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.1 (x64)
Data version: 20100831

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Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ4W****** Mileage: 200410km/124529miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 B HW: 028 101 147 8
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG 5645
Revision: 12345678 Serial number: VWZ7Z0D9633781
Coding: 0000071
Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
VCID: 2265244384BD

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0021121
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3A55FC230C2D

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 CC
Component: Climatic PQ35 080 0201
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 67F375572F1F

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 S HW: 1K0 937 049 S*
Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0704
Revision: 00030000 Serial number: 00000000621926
Coding: E48B8F0600041800001400001400000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3FA38D37170F

Part No: 1K2 955 119 B
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0401
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 00000

Part No: 1K0 955 559 M
Component: RegenLichtSens 005 0605
Coding: 00217125
Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 D HW: 1K0 909 605 D
Component: 02 AIRBAG VW8 022 0600
Revision: 05022000 Serial number: 0033JD0B6JZN
Coding: 0012338
Shop #: WSC 01268 785 00200
VCID: 2D7FC77FCD63

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 A HW: 1K0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 012 0030
Coding: 0000022
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3041DE0BDA51

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 950 LX
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 3556
Coding: 0005401
Shop #: WSC 00390 067 57207
VCID: 8937D3EF994B

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 C HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H08 0080
Revision: 08 Serial number: 260010431806DB
Coding: 3D0F0B48070003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 27733557EF9F

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 950 LX
Component: IMMO 3556
Shop #: WSC 06402 145 00197
VCID: 8937D3EF994B

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1T0-919-887.lbl
Part No: 1T0 919 887 B
Component: Navigation 0311
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 41A78BCF61FB

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0116
Coding: 0000052
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3041DE0BDA51

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
Part No: 1K2 909 144 F
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.2 1301
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2F43DD77C76F

2 Faults Found:
00573 - Steering Torque Sensor (G269)
008 - Implausible Signal
00573 - Steering Torque Sensor (G269)
008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 T
Component: 0W KSG 0560
Coding: 81E802087F2D8505485BC61000
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 819200
VCID: 41A78BCF61FB

Part No: 1K0 951 605 A
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H01 1201

Part No: 1K0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor 003 0003

Part No: 1K0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0101

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 E
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0116
Coding: 0000052
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3147DB0FD15B

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1T0-035-095.lbl
Part No: 1T0 035 095
Component: Radio 0311
Coding: 0001402
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: EBFB8967B3F7

1 Fault Found:
00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
007 - Short to Ground

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 D HW: 1K0 963 235 D
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00700000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2C79CA7BF679

No fault code found.

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i hope someone can shed some light on it as i dont really wanna change the rack

**phil miller** · 13-11-2010,09:29 PM

Originally Posted by onzarob

Hi Phil,

Just looking at the scan we did and I found this

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00573

Fault scan as below.

Code:

Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 F
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.2       1301  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2F43DD77C76F

2 Faults Found:
00573 - Steering Torque Sensor (G269) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
00573 - Steering Torque Sensor (G269) 
            008 - Implausible Signal

PS did you change anything to do with the steering wheel? My coding is 44 and yours is 22...might be it?

i didnt do anything to the steering wheel, all i done was remove the TRE's since i got home ive checked all the fuses and re scaned it (i posted up my read as you posted) ive googled it and ive seen people having new racks because of this fault, i just cant believe its not something simple, i will check the code, thanks Rob

**onzarob** · 13-11-2010,09:34 PM

Try this first

Code:

Checking Steering Torque Sensor (G269) 

 Prerequisites:

 
 Ignition ON
 Engine ON (Idle)
 System voltage at least 11.0 V.
 [Select]
[01 - Engine]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Group 001
[Go!]
Field 2: Steering Torque Sensor (G269)

Turn the Steering Wheel multiple times completely to the left and right. The Torque Values should change.
If the Torque Values do change, it's most likely an intermittent Fault in the Wiring/Connectors.
If the Torque Values do NOT change, the Sensor itself or the Power Supply (Terminal 15) might be faulty.

Group 004
[Go!]
Field 2: Power Supply (Terminal 15), Specification: "Term. 15 ON"
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

may shed some light

PS i change you chassis code on the scan for security

**phil miller** · 13-11-2010,09:48 PM

Originally Posted by onzarob

Try this first

Code:

Checking Steering Torque Sensor (G269) 

 Prerequisites:

 
 Ignition ON
 Engine ON (Idle)
 System voltage at least 11.0 V.
 [Select]
[01 - Engine]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Group 001
[Go!]
Field 2: Steering Torque Sensor (G269)

Turn the Steering Wheel multiple times completely to the left and right. The Torque Values should change.
If the Torque Values do change, it's most likely an intermittent Fault in the Wiring/Connectors.
If the Torque Values do NOT change, the Sensor itself or the Power Supply (Terminal 15) might be faulty.

Group 004
[Go!]
Field 2: Power Supply (Terminal 15), Specification: "Term. 15 ON"
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

may shed some light

PS i change you chassis code on the scan for security

Thanks Rob, ive just tried that and the torque valves DONT change they stay at -125nm, batt voltage was 13.9, ive got a feeling i may have to change the rack

**onzarob** · 13-11-2010,09:54 PM

Oh well, I suggest you leave it alone tonight and have a check of the wiring in the morning.

PS I know were i may be able to source a second hand rack

(If Required)

**phil miller** · 13-11-2010,09:58 PM

Originally Posted by onzarob

Oh well, I suggest you leave it alone tonight and have a check of the wiring in the morning.

PS I know were i may be able to source a second hand rack

(If Required)

i was thinking the same, its to wet to lay under the car now, i hope its something silly but im not holding my breath lol

Rob you have been a star and i cant say thank you enough for all your help today, i will will keep you updated and if the worst happens i will be in need of a rack

thank you mate

**onzarob** · 13-11-2010,10:06 PM

Originally Posted by phil miller

Rob you have been a star and i cant say thank you enough for all your help today

No Problem....Glad to help

**onzarob** · 14-11-2010,06:49 PM

Hi Phil after the telephone call and a little reading I think you need to recalibrate the rack (g85)

Read this

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...teering_Assist

Cheers

Rob