Non of the electricals working on the left side of my 2005 mk5 gti

[Moeg5]

Hi

My vehicle went in for repais three weeks ago and came back with non of the electricals working on the left side( no electric windows, central locking or mirror ). I ve sent the car back to the dealer but they cant find anything wrong with the car. Please help

[richard@thebrae]

Hi

My vehicle went in for repais three weeks ago and came back with non of the electricals working on the left side( no electric windows, central locking or mirror ). I ve sent the car back to the dealer but they cant find anything wrong with the car. Please help

As all these items run from their own control modual which are signaled over the canbus system from the central convieniance controller perhaps the canbus connector is loose or a wire has been broken (in the door flex connecter) of the canbus wiring

[onzarob]

There is one controller in the door that does all those function. they are renowned to go faulty. Also the connection in the door pillar to the door can cause a few issues...check it not wet.

You need someone with VCDS (Vag-com) to help you with this.

[Flash2]

Hi

My vehicle went in for repais three weeks ago and came back with non of the electricals working on the left side( no electric windows, central locking or mirror ).

What repairs were carried out?

Does the fuel flap release switch work? (fuel flap release should work without the ignition being on, the other things wont)
Do the drivers door window switches light up when you switch the lights on?

Regards.

Jim.

[richard@thebrae]

There is one controller in the door that does all those function. they are renowned to go faulty. Also the connection in the door pillar to the door can cause a few issues...check it not wet.

You need someone with VCDS (Vag-com) to help you with this.

Hi and regards to onzarob as I am not trying to contradict him as there may well be different build levels/upgrades ect, but here is a scan of a 2008/2009 mkv match which shows seperate control moduals for the doors, and Elsawin does the same.
My Passat had one controller with just motors in the doors for the locks and windows, but the golf appears to be different.


01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 TM HW: 03G 906 021 AB
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000AG 2763
Coding: 0000077
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: None
Part No SW: 0AM 300 046 F HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component: GSG DSG AG7 402 0803
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: None

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HM HW: 1K0 820 047 HM
Component: Climatic PQ35 142 1111

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: None
Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
Coding: E5890F2700041500471400001400000000087F075C00010000 0000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357

Part No: 1K2 955 119 E
Component: Wischer 011008 021 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 01357

Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH
Component: RLS 271008 054 0402
Coding: 00209069
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
Coding: 0013112
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BS HW: 1K0 953 549 BS
Component: J0527 051 0101
Coding: 0012022
Shop #: WSC 01357

Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 B HW: 1K0 920 974 B
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 2416
Coding: 0003403
Shop #: WSC 00206

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H16 0202
Coding: ED807F060002020003
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 B HW: 1K0 920 974 B
Component: IMMO VDD 2416

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1220
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.LBL
Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70 2301

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-46.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0204
Coding: 819002005103087F2D04840570085FC690FC00
Shop #: WSC 01357

Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H08 9001

Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
Component: Neigungssensor 003 0203

Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
Component: Innenraumueberw.003 0203

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1220
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.LBL
Part No: 1K0 035 186 AF
Component: Radio GR0 036 0034
Coding: 0040402
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door,Rear Left Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K HW: 1K0 959 703 K
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1302
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K HW: 1K0 959 704 K
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1302
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01357

No fault code found.

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[Flash2]

Hi and regards to onzarob as I am not trying to contradict him as there may well be different build levels/upgrades ect, but here is a scan of a 2008/2009 mkv match which shows seperate control moduals for the doors, ---

WOW...did you get vagcom for xmas or what?

Actually, onzarob is correct. It's the controller in the drivers door that controls all the things that Moeg said aren't working. Even the left rear door electric window (which has it's own control unit) wont work if there is a fault with the controller on the front door. The two control units are linked via a data bus (LIN bus in this case).

Jim.

[richard@thebrae]

WOW...did you get vagcom for xmas or what?

Actually, onzarob is correct. It's the controller in the drivers door that controls all the things that Moeg said aren't working. Even the left rear door electric window (which has it's own control unit) wont work if there is a fault with the controller on the front door. The two control units are linked via a data bus (LIN bus in this case).

Jim.

Hi Jim,
Sorry my choice of words, that is what I was trying to say in my 1st post above onzarob's post, the central controller being the drivers door modual and the canbus wire going through the door "A" piller grommet being broken or having lost its connection somehow as it carries the message to act.
As it is the complete left side, it points to a connection, as for two moduals to fail at once does not tally.

[Flash2]

Hi Jim,
Sorry my choice of words, that is what I was trying to say in my 1st post above onzarob's post, the central controller being the drivers door modual and the canbus wire going through the door "A" piller grommet being broken or having lost its connection somehow as it carries the message to act.
As it is the complete left side, it points to a connection, as for two moduals to fail at once does not tally.

Yes, I agree. The A pillar connector would defo be worth checking.

It's just a bit worrying that a VW dealer can't find anything wrong with the car. I'd like to think the dealer would check for a CAN signal at the door control unit. I think that would be the second thing on my list if it came to me for diagnosis.

Jim.

[onzarob]

Yes, I agree. The A pillar connector would defo be worth checking.

I.

I see you've worked out allot the, you are both right there is controller in both doors, but the drivers door is the master and the passenger the slave.

As for the door connectors, they are rubbish and prone to letting in damp. They have rubber boot on the which is released by sliding a blade between the body and the boot. then the connector had a latch that is pulled back. chek the see if the connection are poor etc.

I replace a hole loom in my door to fix one issue. to access the door controller you only need remove the inner panel, to remove the loom the outside door skin has to be removed!!!