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  1. DRLs, is this setup possible? 
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    I'm looking to get my lights up as DRLs. I'm trying to find out what is actually possible. I'll either be using my uncles vagcom or buying it myself.

    I want to have my tail lights and number plate lights on all the time.
    I'd like to have my HID headlights on all the time as well.
    So far I don't think that's to bad! But here comes the complicated bit...
    I'd like to make my side light bulbs my indicators, and have the current indicators made into DRLs. I would change the sidelights bulbs to orange bulbs, and change the indicator bulbs to White bulbs.

    Is this possible through vagcom, or would I need to do a bit of rewiring?
     
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    This is from memory so I might be wrong but as far as I can remember, you can set the indicators to come on with drls but not the sidelights to act as indicators, also i remember reading that some guy melted his indicator bulb holders after setting them as drls without dimming them down, there is a percentage setting for dimming whichever bulb you choose as the drl in vagcom as well, so you would need to do that. BUT I think you are going to have to rewire them anyway. This leads to the question 'is there a dimmer function for the sidelights in vagcom', because if there isn't and you rewire the indicators as sidelights, you're gonna melt the bulb holders. Unfortunately I think the answer to that question is no too

    Somewhere on the net there's a full map of all the vagcom settings on the b6 which should provide definitive answers to your questions but I can't seem to find it now... the links on the rosstech wiki site are dead...
     
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    hang on...


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    ;
    ; Component: J519 - Central Electronics I (#09)
    ;
    ; P/N: 3C0-937-049-???
    ;
    ; includes measuring blocks, adaptation, selective output test and long coding
    ;
    ; This file is part of a redirection package,
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    ; 1T-09.LBL
    ; 3C-09.LBL
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    ; requires VCDS 805.0 / LCode 804.0 or newer
    ;
    ;
    ;---------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; measuring blocks
    ;
    ;---------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ;
    001,0,Parking Lights
    001,1,Left Front,Parking Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    001,2,Right Front,Parking Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    001,3,Left Rear,Parking Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    001,4,Right Rear,Parking Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    ;
    002,0,Fog Lights/Low Beams
    002,1,Left Low Beam,Headlight,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    002,2,Right Low Beam,Headlight,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    002,3,Left Fog Light,,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    002,4,Right Fog Light,,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    ;
    003,0,Turn Signals
    003,1,Left Front,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    003,2,Right Front,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    003,3,Left Rear,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    003,4,Right Rear,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    ;
    004,1,Left Side,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    004,2,Right Side,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    004,3,Left/Right,High Beam,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    004,4,Xenon-Shutter,,Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    005,0,Brake Lights
    005,1,Left,Brake Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    005,2,Right,Brake Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    005,3,Center,Brake Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    005,4,License Plate,Illumination,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    ;
    006,0,Back-Up Lights
    006,1,Instrument,Illumination,Terminal 58d (Range: 0.0...100.0 %)
    006,2,Left,Back-Up Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    006,3,Right,Back-Up Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    006,4,Left Rear,Fog Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    ;
    007,1,Activation Relay,Terminal 50,Range: ON/OFF
    007,2,Activation Relay,Terminal 15,cockpit/engine (Range: ON/OFF)
    007,3,Activation Relay,Terminal 75,Range: ON/OFF
    007,4,Enabling SAD,,Range: active/inactive
    ;
    008,1,Brightness,,Range: 0...7
    008,2,Rain Quantity,,Range: 0...7
    008,3,Right Rear,Fog Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    008,4,Footwell,Lighting,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    ;
    009,1,Terminal 30g,Relay,Range: ON/OFF
    009,2,Dual Washer,Pump +,Range: ON/OFF
    009,3,Dual Washer,Pump -,Range: ON/OFF
    009,4,Heated Rear,Windshield,Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    010,1,Horn,,Range: Operated/Not Oper.
    010,2,Enabling of,Seat Heating,Range: Active/Inactive
    010,3,Electric Fuel,Pump (FP) Relay,Range: ON/OFF
    010,4,Headlight Washer,System Relay,Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    011,1,LED Heated Rear,Windshield,Range: ON/OFF
    011,2,LED Emergency,Flasher Button,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    011,3,LED Heated,Outside Mirror,Range: ON/OFF
    011,4,Interior,Light Dimmed,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    ;
    012,1,Coming Home,LED,Range: ON/OFF
    012,2,Heated Outside,Mirror,Range: ON/OFF
    012,3,Rate Action 1,Relay Driver 1,Range: ON/OFF
    012,4,Rate Action 2,Relay Driver 2,Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    013,0,Terminals
    013,1,Terminal 30,(left),Range: 0.00...17.75 V\nSpecification: 5.0...17.75 V
    013,2,Terminal 30,(right),Range: 0.00...17.75 V\nSpecification: 5.0...17.75 V
    013,3,Terminal 30,(ref.),Range: 0.00...17.75 V\nSpecification: 5.0...17.75 V
    013,4,Terminal 31,(ref.),Range: 0.00...12.75 V\nSpecification: 0.0...1.00 V
    ;
    014,1,Dimming,Potentiometer,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    014,2,Coming Home,Potentiometer,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
    ;
    015,0,Terminals
    015,1,Terminal 15,(Input),Range: ON/OFF
    015,2,Terminal 50,(Input),Range: ON/OFF
    015,3,Enabling P/N,,Range: ON/OFF
    015,4,Terminal L,(Input),Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    016,1,Light dark,,Range: dark = on/bright = off
    016,2,Lights on (RLS),,Range: ON/OFF
    016,3,Front Wiper,Status,Range: ON/OFF
    016,4,Wiper turn-around,Position Signal,Range: Reached/Not Active
    ;
    017,1,Light Switch,(Light off),Range: ON/OFF
    017,2,Parking Light,Switch,Range: ON/OFF
    017,3,Low Beam,Headlight Switch,Range: ON/OFF
    017,4,AFL Light Switch,,Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    018,1,Fog Light Switch,,Range: ON/OFF
    018,2,Light Switch,Rear Fog Light,Range: ON/OFF
    018,3,Brake Light Switch,,Range: ON/OFF
    018,4,Back-Up,Light Switch,Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    019,1,Emergency,Flasher Button,Range: Operated/Not Oper.
    019,2,Engine Hood,,Range: Open/Closed
    019,3,Heated Rear,Windshield Button,Range: Operated/Not Oper.
    019,4,Heated Outside,Mirror,Range: Operated/Not Oper.
    ;
    020,0,Backrest Recognition
    020,3,Backrest,Left,Range: ON/OFF
    020,4,Backrest,Right,Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    021,0,Rotary Traps
    021,1,Rotary Trap LF,,Range: ON/OFF
    021,2,Rotary Trap RF,,Range: ON/OFF
    021,3,Rotary Trap LR,,Range: ON/OFF
    021,4,Rotary Trap RR,,Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    022,1,Rear Lid,Main Catch,Range: ON/OFF
    022,2,Heated Front,Windshield,Range: operated/n. oprated
    022,3,Heated Front,Windshield Relay,Range: ON/OFF
    022,4,Heated Front,Windshield LED,Range: ON/OFF
    ;
    023,1,Rotary Light Switch,Position
    023,2,Coming Home,Condition
    023,3,Leaving Home,Condition
    023,4,AFL Condition
    ;
    024,1,Steering Column,Switch Information,via LIN-Databus
    024,2,Terminal 15,(via LIN),Range: ON/OFF
    024,3,Terminal 50,(via LIN),Range: ON/OFF
    024,4,Wiper Cycle,Number (via LIN)
    ;
    030,1,Load Management,,Range: Active/Inactive
    030,2,Short-Distance,Operations
    030,3,Critical,Time Fraction
    ;
    ;
    ;---------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; adaptation
    ;
    ;---------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ;
    A000,0,Reset Adaptation Channels
    A000,5,Reset Adaptation Channels
    A000,6,Reset all adaptation channels back
    A000,7,to the original factory values.
    ;
    A001,0,Coming-Home Time
    A001,5,Coming-Home Time
    A001,6,Time which the Coming-Home function will be active.
    A001,7,Range: 10...60 Seconds
    A001,8,Resolution: 10 Seconds
    A001,9,Note: Only active if Byte 00 Bit 7 of Long Coding active.
    ;
    A002,0,Leaving-Home Time
    A002,5,Leaving-Home Time
    A002,6,Time which the Leaving-Home function will be active.
    A002,7,Range: 10...60 Seconds
    A002,8,Resolution: 10 Seconds
    A002,9,Note: Only active if Byte 00 Bit 5 of Long Coding active.
    ;
    A003,0,Rear Window & Outside Mirror Heater Activation Time
    A003,5,Rear Window & Outside Mirror Heater Activation Time
    A003,6,Time which the Rear Window and Outside Mirror Heater will be active.
    A003,7,Range: 1...254 Minutes
    A003,8,Resolution: 1 Minute
    ;
    A004,0,Headlight Washer Activation Time
    A004,5,Headlight Washer Activation Time
    A004,6,Range: 50...10000 ms
    A004,7,Resolution: 50 ms (Adaptation Value * Resolution = Actual Value)
    A004,8,Note: Only active if Byte 01 Bit 1 of Long Coding active.
    ;
    A005,0,Footwell Lighting Dimming
    A005,5,Footwell Lighting Dimming
    A005,6,Range: 20...100 %
    A005,7,Resolution: 1 %
    A005,8,Note: Only active if Byte 00 Bit 1 of Long Coding active.
    ;
    A006,0,Load Management
    A006,5,Load Management
    A006,6,Range: 0...3
    A006,7,Note: Only active if Byte 02 Bit 3 of Long Coding active.
    ;
    A007,0,Highbeam with Assistance Driving Light
    A007,5,Highbeam with Assistance Driving Light
    A007,6,0 = inactive
    A007,7,1 = active
    ;
    A008,0,Assistance Driving Light Activation/Deactivation Delay
    A008,5,Assistance Driving Light Activation/Deactivation Delay
    A008,6,Range: 0...10200 ms
    A008,7,Resolution: 40 ms
    ;
    ;
    ;---------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; selective output test
    ;
    ;---------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ;
    T906,Horn (H1)
    T59,Interior Lighting
    T61,Footwell Lights
    T1504,License-Plate Light (X)
    T1755,Parking Lights (E1)
    T901,Back-Up Lamps
    T1758,Brake Lamps
    T967,Left Turn Signals
    T968,Right Turn Signals
    T975,Heated Rear Window (Z1)
    T60,Fog Lights
    T977,Low Beams (Left & Right)
    T2486,High Beam
    T1064,Interior Dimming (Terminal 58d)
    T1259,Fuel Pump Relay (J17)
    T1701,Dimmer for Interior Lighting
    T2092,Enabling Heated Seat
    T909,Windshield Wiper Motor (V)
    T2377,Wiper: Upper Reverse Point
    T156,Front Windshield Washer Pump
    T2398,Rear Windshield Washer Pump
    ;
    ;
    ;---------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; long coding
    ;
    ;---------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ;
    LC,00,0,Front Fog Lights installed
    LC,00,1,Xenon Headlights with Shutter installed
    LC,00,2,Footwell Lights installed
    LC,00,3,Daytime Running Lights (Scandinavia) active
    LC,00,4,Daytime Running Lights (North America)
    LC,00,5,Assistance Driving Light & Leaving Home active
    LC,00,6,Rain-/Light sensor installed
    LC,00,7,Coming-Home active
    LC,01,0,Rear Seat Recognition installed
    LC,01,1,Headlight Washer installed
    LC,01,2,Electronic Fuelpump Relay installed (Gasoline only)
    LC,01,3,Rear Wiper installed
    LC,01,7,Rear Wiper with Front Wiper continiously active
    LC,02,0,Rear Wiper with Front Wiper intermittent active
    LC,02,1,Comfort Turn Signals
    LC,02,2,Cold Lamp Diagnosis active
    LC,02,3,Load Management active
    LC,02,4,Coming-Home Mode via (0 = Personalisation / 1 = Lightsensor)
    LC,02,6,Side Turn Signal Lights installed
    LC,02,7,Seat Heating installed
    LC,03,0,Relay Terminal 15 installed
    LC,03,1,Rear Fog Lights (0 = 2 Rear Fog Lights / 1 = 1 Rear Fog Light)
    LC,03,2,Reverse Driving Lights (0 = 2 Reverse Driving Lights / 1 = 1 Reverse Driving Light)
    LC,03,3,Reverse Driving Light off when Rear Lid open
    LC,03,4,Xenon Headlights without Shutter installed (Bi-Xenon)
    LC,03,5,Teardrop Wiping for Rear Window active
    LC,03,6,2nd Battery installed
    LC,04,0,Auxiliary Heater installed
    LC,04,4,Activation of both Rear Fog Lights
    LC,04,6,Rear Fog Lights deactivated
    LC,04,7,Warp Relay installed
    LC,05,0-7,50,Headlight Washer Delay
    LC,05,0-7,50,Decimal Value (Resolution 50 ms) (Example: 20 is 20 x 50 = 1000 ms)
    LC,06,0-7,50,Headlight Washer Activation Time
    LC,06,0-7,50,Decimal Value (Resolution 50 ms) (Example: 16 is 16 x 50 = 800 ms)
    LC,07,0-7,1,Turn Signal Front left/right as Parking Light Front left/right (USA and Canada)
    LC,07,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,08,0,Seat Heating Deactivation with Transport Mode active
    LC,08,1,Daytime Running Light (DRL) Deactivation with Transport Mode active
    LC,08,2,Footwell Lighting Deactivation with Transport Mode active
    LC,08,3,Interlock Display via CAN-Instruments active
    LC,08,4,Interior Light via Rear Lid Notch active
    LC,08,6,Rear Fog Light Deactivation with Trailer active
    LC,08,7,Daytime Running Light (DRL) Deactivation while Blinking active
    LC,09,0-7,1,Rear Brake Light as Parking Light
    LC,09,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,10,0-7,1,Rear Fog Light as Parking Light
    LC,10,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,11,0-7,1,Front Parking Light Dimming
    LC,11,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,12,0-7,1,Rear Parking Light Dimming
    LC,12,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,13,0-7,1,Backup Function: Rear Side Turn Signal as Parking/Brake Light
    LC,13,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,14,0-7,1,Backup Function: Front Parking Light as Side Turn Signals
    LC,14,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,15,0-7,1,Backup Function: Rear Parking Light as Side Turn Signals
    LC,15,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,16,0-7,1,Backup Function: Front Fog Lights as Low Beam Headlight
    LC,16,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,17,0,Emergency Brake Flash Light active
    LC,17,1,Deactivation of Additional High Beam with Bi-Xenon
    LC,17,2,Heated Front Window installed
    LC,17,3,Diagnosis Terminal 50 active
    LC,17,4,Daytime Running Light via Fog Lights
    LC,17,5,Front Fog Lights deactivated with High Beam
    LC,17,6,Parking Light Function inactive (USA/Canada)
    LC,18,0,Cold Diagnosis License Plate Lights active
    LC,18,1,Cold Diagnosis Brake Lights active
    LC,18,2,Cold Diagnosis Front Fog Lights active
    LC,18,3,Cold Diagnosis Rear Fog Lights active
    LC,18,4,Cold Diagnosis High Beam active
    LC,18,5,Cold Diagnosis Turn Signals active
    LC,18,6,Cold Diagnosis Back-Up Light active
    LC,18,7,Cold Diagnosis Side Turn Signals active
    LC,19,0,Cold Diagnosis Low Beam active
    LC,19,1,Cold Diagnosis Front Parking Lights active
    LC,19,2,Cold Diagnosis Rear Parking Lights active
    LC,19,3,Diagnosis Rear Parking Lights active
    LC,19,6,Electric Parking Brake installed
    LC,20,0-7,1,Daytime Running Lights Dimming
    LC,20,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
    LC,21,4,Rear Fog Light as Brake Light
    LC,21,6,Leaving-Home Variant (0 = LH in LDS / 1 = No LH in LDS)
    LC,21,7,Low Beam always active
    LC,22,0,Personalization (0 = Variant 1 / 1 = Variant 2)
    LC,22,2,Brake Light Deactivation with Rear Fog Light active
    LC,22,3,Rear/Brake Light Function active
    LC,22,4,Speed dependant Trunk Locking active
    LC,22,5,"Light && Sight" Menu inactive
    LC,22,6,Rear Parking Lights as Blinker active (North America)
    LC,22,7,Diagnosis Rear Brake Lights inactive (North America)
    LC,23,0,Xenon Headlights repeated Ignition active
    LC,23,1,CAN Data Exchange Format active
    LC,23,2,Internal Turn Light Control Algorithm active
    LC,23,3~4,00,Turn Lights not active
    LC,23,3~4,08,Turn Lights via Fog Lights
    LC,23,3~4,10,Turn Lights via High Beam
    LC,23,3~4,18,Turn Lights via Xenon Shutter
    LC,23,5,Coming-Home Logic (0 = Old / 1 = New)
    ;

    after a quick look through, what i said a minute ago might be wrong....

    LC,14,0-7,1,Backup Function: Front Parking Light as Side Turn Signals
    LC,14,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)

    ...looks promising

    good luck
     
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  4. Re: DRLs, is this setup possible? 
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    So, next time i take the passat to VW, can i just ask to have their system recode to have just the front sides on ?!?!

    Just find that the odd lorry on the M25 every day takes a bit more notice when the sides are (not bothered about the back).

    Cheerz
     
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    "So, next time i take the passat to VW, can i just ask to have their system recode to have just the front sides on ?!?! "

    Not likely! But if you can find a friendly forum member with vagcom they will be able to (I think) - have a look in the vagcom section, there are lots of people happy to help
     
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    If the indicators are set as DRLs, will they still flash when the indicator is turned on? I'm just looking to do something different with the lights. Somethin that looks OEM without fitting bright LED strips!
     
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    if you just set the indicators as the drls then i think the answer is yes, they light up dimmer than usual all the time then flash at normal brightness when indicating. but if you also set 'front parking light as side turn signal' then i don't think they would do that any more - i think that if you set all of long coding byte 0 bit 4, byte 7 and byte 14, then set the dimming in byte 20 to a reasonable value, you might get exactly what you're after
     
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    i failed to mention, and this is important - if you set us drls make sure that when you test your settings you take the handbrake off! because us drls only come on when the handbrake is released! even though i was already aware of that to start with when i set them on my car i was still stumped as to why they weren't working for a good few minutes.

    agree with your opinion on the leds by the way. i was just thinking what i think would look best and i reckon having the sides and indicators lit up all the time without the dipped bulbs, then the indicators blinking brighter than usual when indicating would look good.
     
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    If you hang fire, Im in the stage of developing DRL's myself and they will be L.E.D's.

    There will be a strip of L.E.D.'s in the front indicator housing for D.R.L's and a strip of L.E.D indicators in the housing. Watch this space!!!!!!!!!! . Bascically it will look like original equipment. And very good
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapport25 View Post
    If you hang fire, Im in the stage of developing DRL's myself and they will be L.E.D's.

    There will be a strip of L.E.D.'s in the front indicator housing for D.R.L's and a strip of L.E.D indicators in the housing. Watch this space!!!!!!!!!! . Bascically it will look like original equipment. And very good


    Quote Originally Posted by g-black View Post
    Somethin that looks OEM without fitting bright LED strips!
     
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