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  1. Re: 3.0tdi fuel consumption dropped significantly - no fault codes 
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    Quote Originally Posted by morski View Post
    Thats the one. £46.80. Same one used across a lot of models. Interior temp sensor is on the dashboard and air temp sensor for engine management is on the front bumper bar
    Thanks

    Just to clarify - this is the sensor I need OR is this the one to the dash gauge (works fine, sits at 90 deg)

    Whats it like to change? It is easily accessable?
     
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  2. Re: 3.0tdi fuel consumption dropped significantly - no fault codes 
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    Cant say for sure that this is the sensor you need to fix your issue. Or where the dash gets reading from
    Needs to be replaced from underneath the car. Loss of coolant is expected so you will need some more G12/13(check). Held in with a clip.
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  3. Re: 3.0tdi fuel consumption dropped significantly - no fault codes 
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    BUMP

    Can anyone assist if this part number is the one required for the radiator outlet temp reading back to the ECU?

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  4. Re: 3.0tdi fuel consumption dropped significantly - no fault codes 
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    Hi All

    I have had the car scanned using VCDS tonight, please see results below...

    Concerningly - theres no faults shown for the engine/coolant system, so Im none the wiser really....

    Anyone have any ideas where to go from here?

    Thanks

    Friday,05,March,2021,17:28:35:41378
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)
    Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
    Ross-Tech: Home




    VIN: WAUZZZ4G3CN119173 License Plate: XXXX
    Mileage: 186628km-115965mi Repair Order:






    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------




    Chassis Type: 4G-AU57 (4G0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 3B 42 44 46 47 52 53 55 56
    5F 62 6D 72


    VIN: WAUZZZ4G3CN119173 Mileage: 186628km-115965miles


    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    3B-Sensor Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CDUC) Labels:. 059-907-401-V2.clb
    Part No SW: 4G0 907 401 F HW: 4G0 907 401
    Component: 3.0TDI EDC17 H37 0005
    Revision: 53H37---
    Coding: 12254012052601020000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0114G0907401F 001005
    ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0114G0907401F.rod
    VCID: 2649C9A85946AFB458-8072


    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217) Labels:| 0B5-927-156.clb
    Part No SW: 4G1 927 156 B HW: 0B5 927 156 F
    Component: 0B5 30 TDIRdW H10 0003
    Revision: --H10--- Serial number: 0000001671
    Coding: 000001
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501 A02196
    ROD: EV_TCMDL501.rod
    VCID: 2C5D3B8047AA95E48E-8078


    No fault code found.


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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 4G0-907-379-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 4G0 907 379 H HW: 4G0 907 379 H
    Component: ESP PREMIUM H09 0361
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 27A68701E465E180DB00
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ESPPremiAU57X 004028
    ROD: EV_ESPPremiAU57X_004_AU57.rod
    VCID: 366919E889E6DF34E8-8062


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
    Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 BP HW: 4H0 907 064 BP
    Component: BCM2 2.0 H31 0333
    Revision: 00002001
    Coding: 05B92F06000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 78F5D7D0CB72E9443A-802C


    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4H0 905 852 C HW: 4H0 905 852 C
    Component: J764 ELV MLB H39 0046
    Serial number: 2311000279950014


    No fault code found.


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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 4G0-820-043-2Z.clb
    Part No SW: 4G0 820 043 H HW: 4G0 820 043 H
    Component: KLIMA 2 ZONEN H10 0064
    Serial number: 17011200040672
    Coding: 3622000820
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiBasisUDS 002040
    ROD: EV_AirCondiBasisUDS_002.rod
    VCID: 244DD3A02F7A5DA446-8070


    1 Fault Found:
    0027 - Motor for Defroster Flap
    B1090 07 [008] - Mechanical Failure
    Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 189
    Mileage: 186461 km
    Date: 2021.03.01
    Time: 07:34:57


    Voltage terminal 30: 13.02 V
    Outside temperature: 2.5 ∞C
    Inside temperature: 0.52 ∞C
    Defroster flap motor-Act.val.: 11309
    Defroster flap motor-Target value: 11252
    Defroster flap motor-Stop open: 11294
    Defroster flap motor-Stop closed: 10000




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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 4H0-907-063-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 BN HW: 4H0 907 063 F
    Component: BCM1 2.0 H12 0111
    Revision: 20012002 Serial number: 00000001202324
    Coding: 2600201040349FE00181008300001D0CCF9DC7082709010100 0004602100
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 75EBDEE4DC60942C21-8020


    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G2 955 119 HW: 4G8 955 119 A Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: WWS57X 111210 H35 0051
    Serial number: 111222020908
    Coding: 0045F7


    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559 HW: 8K0 955 559 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
    Component: RLS H04 0003
    Serial number: 20036344
    Coding: 02512B


    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4G0 941 531 E HW: 4G0 941 531 E
    Component: E1 - LDS H07 0044
    Serial number: 12 01 2012 00001489


    Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 658 A HW: 4G0 907 658 A
    Component: Humidity_Sens H02 0002
    Serial number: 07584A06000000000001


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 4H0-919-475-7X2.clb
    Part No SW: 4H0 919 475 N HW: 4H0 919 475 C
    Component: PARKHILFE ACC H07 0050
    Revision: 11001001 Serial number: 55901201702476
    Coding: 080308
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU57X0000 002005
    ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU57X0000_002_AU57.rod
    VCID: 3D7B06C4ACD00C6C29-8068


    No fault code found.


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    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:* 4H0-959-655.clb
    Part No SW: 4H0 959 655 C HW: 4H0 959 655 C
    Component: Airbag10.43 H40 0040
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 003JG006ABM1
    Coding: 30323436313330303537554A305234473053
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X 001014
    ROD: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X_VW51.rod
    VCID: 366919E889E6DF34E8-8062


    Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
    Serial number: 3575HRB405311PNA58PD


    Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
    Serial number: 3585HRB4067124B2BPV8


    Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
    Serial number: 3515JRB405H12QE681E/


    Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
    Serial number: 3525JRB4067134DMK0I+


    Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
    Serial number: 3554VRB405F0V8BO30N


    Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
    Serial number: 3564VRB405F0V8BOH0SF


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:. 4H0-953-568.clb
    Part No SW: 4G0 953 568 A HW: 4G0 953 568 A
    Component: Lenks.Modul H05 0201
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 20120121000583
    Coding: 000035
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 30652FF06382F104B2-8064


    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G0 951 528 A HW: 4G0 951 528 A
    Component: E221 - MFL H08 0009


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
    Part No SW: 4G8 920 982 K HW: 4G8 920 982 K
    Component: TDieGb H79 0416
    Revision: 28460177 Serial number: 658090112593018
    Coding: 33A610000B012600010000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_RBD4K 004045
    ROD: EV_RBD4K_AU57.rod
    VCID: 3C7D0BC0B7CA05641E-8068


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:* None
    Part No SW: 4G0 907 468 G HW: 4G0 907 468 A
    Component: J533--Gateway H08 0214
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 00000000362296
    Coding: 00CD077D00
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewUDS 001025
    ROD: EV_GatewUDS_AU57.rod
    VCID: 346D23E09F9ACD24D6-8060


    Battery Monitoring Control Module:
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8X0 915 181 HW: 8X0 915 181
    Component: J367-BDM H07 0141
    Serial number: 00000000003790748382


    Voltage stabilizer:
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663 B HW: 8K0 959 663 B
    Component: J532_DCDCStab H05 0006
    Serial number: 12011002452011200410


    2 Faults Found:
    12290 - Quiescent Current
    U1406 00 [009] - Too High
    Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 7
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 119
    Mileage: 90824 km
    Date: 2017.12.04
    Time: 18:59:46


    Voltage terminal 30: 12.3 V
    Voltage terminal 15: 0.0 V
    Control Module temperature: 9 ∞C
    System status: LIN_active
    IN ESP_standstill flag: no standstill detected
    Engine running: OFF
    IN ZAS_Te_X: OFF
    Terminal 15 status via CAN: OFF
    Terminal 15 status: OFF
    Datenfeld: 0


    12291 - Energy Management Active
    U140B 00 [009] - -
    [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
    Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 7
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 156
    Mileage: 186628 km
    Date: 2021.03.05
    Time: 17:15:52


    Voltage terminal 30: 11.4 V
    Voltage terminal 15: 11.5 V
    Control Module temperature: 17 ∞C
    System status: Terminal 15 on
    IN ESP_standstill flag: standstill detected
    Engine running: OFF
    IN ZAS_Te_X: On
    Terminal 15 status via CAN: On
    Terminal 15 status: On
    Datenfeld: 1




    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 3B: Sensor Elect. (J849) Labels: 4G0-907-637.clb
    Part No SW: 4G0 907 637 HW: 4G0 907 637
    Component: SARA 3D H02 0009
    Revision: -------- Serial number: EJ1BPA32017TZS0
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_SARA 009017
    ROD: EV_SARA_009.rod
    VCID: 6BDFF89C822452DCC7-803E


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:. 4H0-959-793.clb
    Part No SW: 4G8 959 793 E HW: 4G8 959 793 A
    Component: TSG FA H05 0212
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 011F16204001620002080002
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 42817538DD2E739454-8016


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 4G0-909-144.clb
    Part No SW: 4G0 909 144 L HW: 4G0 909 144 G
    Component: RCEPS H35 0010
    Revision: 00001000 Serial number: 0006296816
    Coding: 101000010000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPS 009008
    ROD: EV_RCEPS_009.rod
    VCID: 326125F8658EC314C4-8066


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb
    Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 BP HW: 4H0 907 064 BP
    Component: BCM2 2.0 H31 0333
    Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0168447687
    Coding: 013B0E2220B934018320090400030400000000000000000000 0000000000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 78F5D7D0CB72E9443A-802C


    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4G0 951 177
    Component: DWA-Sensor H01 0010


    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501


    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 3AA 962 243 HW: 3AA 962 243
    Component: GEB.F.Heckoef H12 0719
    Serial number: 84201259


    No fault code found.


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    Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: None
    Part No SW: 4G0 035 223 C HW: 4G0 035 223 A
    Component: BOSE-G3-C7 H07 0160
    Revision: CJ007001 Serial number: 00000000018069
    Coding: 010000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 1D3BE64404106C6C09-8048


    No fault code found.


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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:. 4H0-959-792.clb
    Part No SW: 4G8 959 792 E HW: 4G8 959 792 A
    Component: TSG BF H05 0212
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 011F16204001620002080002
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 41837A34D828688C4D-8014


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (----) Labels: 4H0-907-801.clb
    Part No SW: 4H0 907 801 E HW: 4H0 907 801 A
    Component: EPB-4 H03 0012
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 00000000230934
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001022
    ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_VW51.rod
    VCID: 2A513D984D5E8BD47C-807E


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels:| 8X0-907-357.clb
    Part No SW: 4H0 907 357 A HW: 4H0 907 357 A
    Component: ....LWR12.... H02 0013
    Serial number: 120119-0004-034
    Coding: 1122A6101000A300
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulBasic 005001
    ROD: EV_HeadlRegulBasic.rod
    VCID: 2C5D3B8047AA95E48E-8078


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (R) Labels: Redir Fail!
    Part No SW: 4G1 035 053 E HW: 4G1 035 053
    Component: Radio U Basic H41 0093
    Revision: AB001007 Serial number: 227A-0C7525665
    Coding: 010003010000000001
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 2143DAB43868488C2D-8074


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
    Part No SW: 4G0 035 670 G HW: 4G0 035 670 A
    Component: H-BNT-EU H48 0484
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 428AU0C7538401
    Coding: 050101010003E1ED05008B3E00000003000001000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 2757C4AC564CB6BC63-8072


    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 AH
    Component: EUR 2012 1308


    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4G2 919 610 C HW: 4G2 919 610 C
    Component: E380 BDT C7 H11 0204
    Serial number: 90349LA30008E


    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 C
    Component: CD-Database 3638


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels:. 4H0-959-795.clb
    Part No SW: 4G8 959 795 E HW: 4G8 959 795 A
    Component: TSG HL H04 0212
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 010F14204001620002080002
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 448D7320C73A7DA466-8010


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----) Labels:* Redir Fail!
    Part No SW: 4G9 959 107 A HW: 4G9 959 107 A
    Component: HDSG-Modul H03 0139
    Revision: 14003001 Serial number: 013200518
    Coding: 097205C010
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_HDSGAu572 001001
    ROD: EV_HDSGAu571.rod
    VCID: 346D23E09F9ACD24D6-8060


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels:. 4H0-959-795.clb
    Part No SW: 4G8 959 795 E HW: 4G8 959 795 A
    Component: TSG HR H04 0212
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 010F14204001620002080002
    Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
    VCID: 448D7320C73A7DA466-8010


    No fault code found.


    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:15)--------------------------
     
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  5. Re: 3.0tdi fuel consumption dropped significantly - no fault codes 
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    Some random thoughts
    1, was the car new to you last September?
    2, is the tank taking the same amount of fuel it always did?
    3, are all wheels turning freely or is any wheel running hotter than the others?
    4, have you checked the air filter, and more importantly the silly mesh thing in the inlet trunking?

    i can certainly see coolant temp sensor reading low effecting mpg figures, but no by the amount you are saying, unless you only do slow speed town work all the time.
     
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  6. Re: 3.0tdi fuel consumption dropped significantly - no fault codes 
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    Answers to your questions:

    1. No, I’ve had car for 3 years. Used to commute 120 miles a day (motorway) but have changed jobs 18 months ago so do ‘fast’ A roads but only 20 miles a day. I noticed range dropped from 600 to 550/560ish
    2. Yes it seems to. Not noticed anything different.
    3. Nope, all ok there. All checked and ok.
    4. I haven’t looked at the air filter or the mesh thing. Where abouts is the mesh thing?

    Thanks for your assistance and suggestions 👍
     
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  7. Re: 3.0tdi fuel consumption dropped significantly - no fault codes 
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    A drop from 600 miles to 550/560 represents a less than 10% difference. I would expect that transferring from motorway to A-roads.

    Are you truly unhappy about the present fuel consumption?
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  8. Re: 3.0tdi fuel consumption dropped significantly - no fault codes 
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    Quote Originally Posted by beemerboy9 View Post
    A drop from 600 miles to 550/560 represents a less than 10% difference. I would expect that transferring from motorway to A-roads.

    Are you truly unhappy about the present fuel consumption?
    I accept motorway to a roads will give 10% drop. I haven’t questioned that for a second.

    Nothing has changed in the last 18 months and I’ve gone from 550 miles per tank to 390.

    The distances/type of driving hasn’t changed so surely there is an issue somewhere, don’t you agree?
     
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  9. Re: 3.0tdi fuel consumption dropped significantly - no fault codes 
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    Sorry, I did not spot the 390.
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