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  1. won't start (no cranking) 53 plate 1.9tdi 
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    I'm back on here sooner than I expected! Disaster has struck this morning. Car was out for a short drive to local shops last night fine. This morning it won't start. Dash lights up as usual. Headlights have plenty of oomph but nothing happens when you turn the key.

    I tried disconnecting the battery and reconnecting to see if that woke some software up somewhere but no change.

    I've had a look on a few other threads but they all seem to have the engine cranking. There is nothing happening here. Car is parked slightly uphill on our drive.

    I've read about the "plenum chamber" causing grief to people in the past and see that there is some water in ours which I assume shouldn't be there?
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    I've read the fault codes and the new additions seem to be

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    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 614 517
    Component: ABS/ESP front 4329
    Coding: 04255
    Shop #: WSC 06435
    VCID: 65C61642FFC98BAE80-5120


    1 Fault Found:
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    35-00 - -


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    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 820 043 AC
    Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1219
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 63251
    VCID: 62CC0D5EEEE7FC9665-5178


    1 Fault Found:
    01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
    27-00 - Implausible Signal


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    Can anyone advise what to do/test next please?

    Any advice appreciated,
    Ian


    PS I will go off to continue looking over old threads to try to solve this without bothering anyone but any shortcuts would be great cheers
     
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  2. Re: won't start (no cranking) 53 plate 1.9tdi 
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    My problem isn't intermittent but maybe the "starter exciter" mentioned in here is something for me to look at?
    Question Audi A4 Avant B6 2002 1.9tdi intermittent starting

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    Also no damp in either footwells as far as I can tell but the water in the plenum chamber sounds like something I need to rule out. I'm hoping this is the definitive thread on how to go about sorting that
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    check wiring on starter
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    Maybe the slight incline has made the sludge in the bottom of the battery short out some of the battery cells. There may be enough power in the battery to light up the low powered displays but will not crank the starter motor. I would suggest you connect a volt meter to the battery and turn on everything you can to drain the voltage and see what reading you get.
     
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    or try jump starting it
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    Thanks for the replies. Checking wiring on starter sounds like a good thing to do. Hopefully I can work out how to do that.

    The voltage on the battery sits at 12.6 then dropped to 12.3 when the key is turned but no big crippling current draw by the looks of it so I think I'm right in saying the battery isn't suffering from sludge moving. It's been parked on that same slope for the last 6 years.


    Also do those fault codes i posted ring a bell with anyone?

    Thanks
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    If your turning the key to start the car and voltage drops by 0.3 volt it would appear there is no load. If possible check Voltage at starter motor while starting car. Batteries normally sit about 13.2 volts when fully charged. At 12.6 volts the battery is on its way out.
     
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    In that scan, about 75% of the cars controllers are not there, where are the engine, central electrics, incontinence system etc?
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  10. Re: won't start (no cranking) 53 plate 1.9tdi 
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    where are the engine, central electrics, incontinence system etc?
    Incontinence system? Don't appear to have one of those!

    Finally worked out how to attach files to posts. Full scan should be attached. I didn't include the others as I didn't think they were relevant and hadn't changes in ages. If there's anything I should try with VCDS please let me know.

    Code:
    Wednesday,19,August,2020,11:49:31:43085
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
    VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8E74A074580   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 384730km-239060mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
              67 69 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WAUZZZ8E74A074580   Mileage: 384730km-239060miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-019-AVF.lbl
       Part No: 038 906 019 LJ
       Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G000SG  4910  
       Coding: 00002
       Shop #: WSC 63251  
       VCID: 6ADC657E16D7A4D6AD-4B18
       WAUZZZ8E74A074580     AUZ6Z0C0230244
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 614 517 
       Component: ABS/ESP front       4329  
       Coding: 04255
       Shop #: WSC 06435  
       VCID: 65C61642FFC98BAE80-5120
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                35-00 - -
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 820 043 AC
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   1219  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 63251  
       VCID: 62CC0D5EEEE7FC9665-5178
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time 
                27-00 - Implausible Signal
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
       Component: int. Lastmodul  RDW 0517  
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 63251  
       VCID: 356686020FE93B2EF0-4B18
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 959 655 B
       Component: Airbag 8.4EP        3002  
       Coding: 0010602
       Shop #: WSC 63251 000 00000
       VCID: 3664810E42EF3036F9-515A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 953 549 N
       Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0611  
       Coding: 02042
       Shop #: WSC 63251  
       VCID: 3E74992E3ADFF87621-4B18
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 920 950 J
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D37  
       Coding: 00400
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 3068B716F08B1E06A3-5178
       WAUZZZ8E74A074580     AUZ6Z0C0230244
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 8E0-951-177.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 951 177 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.   0604  
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 6BD2607A192DBDDED6-5178
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No: 8E0 959 433 BC
       Component: Komfortgerát T3B    1311  
       Coding: 07115
       Shop #: WSC 63251  
       VCID: 73E2781A411D651E1E-4B18
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E2959802B
       Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0003  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E2959801B
       Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0003  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
       Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0003  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
       Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0003  
    
    13 Faults Found:
    01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring 
                35-00 - -
    00962 - Alarm via. Tilt Sensor 
                35-00 - -
    01368 - Alarm triggered by Luggage Compartment Switch 
                35-00 - -
    01369 - Alarm triggered by Hood Switch 
                35-00 - -
    01374 - Alarm triggered by Terminal 15 
                35-00 - -
    01371 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Driver's Side 
                35-00 - -
    01572 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Passenger Side 
                35-00 - -
    01574 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Rear Right 
                35-00 - -
    00956 - Key 2 
                35-10 - - - Intermittent
    01034 - Electric Window Thermal Protection Active; Driver 
                35-10 - - - Intermittent
    01705 - Selection Switch for Mirror-Adjust (E48) 
                27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    01559 - Drivers Door 
                59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
    01561 - Rear left door 
                61-00 - Won't De-Safe
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 035 195 P
       Component: symphony II NP2    0152   
       Coding: 01005
       Shop #: WSC 00130  
       VCID: 3460BB0604932226C7-4ECA
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00878 - Connection to Speaker Front Left 
                36-00 - Open Circuit
    00879 - Connection to Speaker Front Right 
                36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 06:01)--------------------------
    Many thanks,
    Ian
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