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  1. Re: won't start (no cranking) 53 plate 1.9tdi 
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    I'll check the starter motor as soon as I can. I put the battery charger on and it was sitting at around 13.4 across the terminals when that was on and the battery was down to 13.2 after I'd removed the charger


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    My plenum chamber was a waterpark not to long ago. lliters of water. It flooded my driveway when I unblocked the plug. Not long after my car was going nuts electrically and I was having exactly the same codes as you. I even had stalling issues etc. I removed the front seats. pulled back the carpet and i completely dried everything out with a heater and dehumidifer. I also pulled the ECU to dry indoors incase it had gotten wet but it was fine.

    After all dried up and cleared codes with VCDS touch wood nothing came back. But I did get alot of codes relating to ABS etc. I only noticed the water because I changed my battery. It explains though also why my windows were ALWAYS foggy and never demisted properly
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianlovatt View Post
    Incontinence system? Don't appear to have one of those!
    My name for the inconvenience system on a 3B when it gets flooded by rain water through the heater intake
    Anthropogenic climate change, the biggest con inflicted on mankind since religion...

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    Cheers for all the replies so far.

    Could anyone advise on the part number for the starter please (as per details in this thread it's a 53plate with AVF engine)?

    As I haven't got the car up on any ramps it's really tricky to see the starter so I can't tell which of these I need:
    https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/bosch-starter-motor-402440360

    or this type
    Bosch Starter Motor | Euro Car Parts
    Lucas Starter Motor | Euro Car Parts

    I'm assuming going with Bosch or Lucas is the right thing to do as if I get a cheaper one it will just die sooner?



    Had an excellent day wrestling with cleaning the plenum chamber and clearing out the leaf mulch and silt from the drain plugs. Took the lid off the ECU enclosure (can't believe you have to remove wipers to do this - what a fight they were) and everything was nice and dry despite the height of the rust on the bolts showing it must have been wet above the seal. Same on the heater intake - despite a terrifying amount of sludge all around it no sign of any water ingress.

    Then finally wriggled under to take a look a the starter. The supply was matching the battery terminal voltages and ignition signal came on ok with turning the key so that's dead I thought. I reconnected the ignition signal and gave the starter a tap while it was being activated and it hissed furiously and loads of smoke came out so it's even more dead now.

    As the garage I normally use hasn't got any availability for a couple of weeks I thought I'd try to replace it myself. Hopefully not being too ambitious with this...


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    Had another garage recommended to me that can look at it tomorrow. Lucas one for £261 inc fitting and VAT so hopefully I'm not getting robbed there.

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    bosch part number is 068911024HX

    valeo part number is 068911024LX




    Vehicles with 1.9 ltr. TDI engine
    Removing
    With ignition switched off, disconnect earth cable at battery → Chapter.
    On vehicles with auxiliary heater, unscrew bolts -arrows- for exhaust pipe of auxiliary/supplementary heater at noise insulation.
    Unfasten bolts/quick release fasteners -1 ... 3- and detach noise insulation (front and rear).
    Remove wires -1- and -2- at starter and remove insulator from positive connection on starter.
    Unbolt wiring clamp -3-.
    Unscrew starter at gearbox and take out to rear.
    Installing
    Installation is carried out in the reverse order; note the following:
    Connect the battery. Additional steps required → Anchor.
    Tightening torques
    Component Nm
    Starter M10 45
    to gearbox M12 65
    eye for an eye means the whole world goes blind
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianlovatt View Post
    it hissed furiously and loads of smoke came out so it's even more dead now
    I have never had that happen, sphincter clenching
    Anthropogenic climate change, the biggest con inflicted on mankind since religion...

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    Yes that smoke was quite unnerving at point blank range. Maybe the same reason as in this video
    Starter motor smoking??? - YouTube

    Thanks arman123 for posting that info on fitting the starter hopefully I won't be needing that if this starter lasts 17 years like the last one but I'm sure someone will find it handy.

    So far so good with the new starter but electrical woes after the new coolant head flange in this thread
    Question Coolant leak - what is part this called and is it realistic for me to attempt to fix? - Page 2
    so I'll pick that up there.

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    Ha it seems in my messing about with the ECU enclosure cover I might not have put it back together as well as I should have.

    Just started this thread
    18047 - Accelerator Position Sensor 1/2 (G79/G185) and 01314 - Engine Control Module

    Quote Originally Posted by ianlovatt View Post
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    Had an excellent day wrestling with cleaning the plenum chamber and clearing out the leaf mulch and silt from the drain plugs. Took the lid off the ECU enclosure (can't believe you have to remove wipers to do this - what a fight they were) and everything was nice and dry despite the height of the rust on the bolts showing it must have been wet above the seal. Same on the heater intake - despite a terrifying amount of sludge all around it no sign of any water ingress.

    Then finally wriggled under to take a look a the starter. The supply was matching the battery terminal voltages and ignition signal came on ok with turning the key so that's dead I thought. I reconnected the ignition signal and gave the starter a tap while it was being activated and it hissed furiously and loads of smoke came out so it's even more dead now.

    As the garage I normally use hasn't got any availability for a couple of weeks I thought I'd try to replace it myself. Hopefully not being too ambitious with this...


    Thanks,
    Ian
     
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