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  1. Question A3 3.2 Door Locking Mech Preventing Fuel Pump Prime 
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    Hi guys and girls.

    I am a newbie to this forum so please go easy on me ;-). Anyway, I have Google the beejesus out of this and it has beaten me.

    Okay...I have a 2004 A3 3.2 Quattro Sport S-Line. It has been a great car for 3 years for me...until...I sat it up for a few months leading up to Christmas and when I went out to it one day, it wouldn't start...battery was flat. Ah...I hear you say...of course it's flat if it's been sat up for a couple of months...but no...it has sat for 6 months before and fired up first time. And the type of flat I am talking about is dead as a dodo...not a light or show of any form of electrical life at all. Charged the battery and car started fine and then the rainy times came and the car would start if it felt like it

    The car has had several electrical fault codes pop up on my VCDS (see below) but I do not know if they are related as, to be fair, the ones relating to the HVAC have been there for as long as I have had the car.

    Anyway, before I go off on too much of a tangent, I noticed that the fuel pump wasn't priming and I couldn't get the car to start for a few weeks but wasn't concerned as I have other vehicles so I disconnected the battery to prevent it draining. Then one day as I shut the drivers door after having another look at the situation, I heard the fuel pump prime which made me think the car would then start...which it did...as did the 2 effin rad fans as well. A bit of research into the rad fans tells me it's a common thing so I disconnected the big 80amp fuse in the engine bay in order that I when I switched the engine off, the fans wouldn't run forever.

    Next, I looked into the door locking microswitch scenario;

    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 801 A
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0010
    Coding: 0000048
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 397947827098B88AA7-806C

    3 Faults Found:
    01030 - Central Locking Key Switch; Driver Side; Lock
    008 - Implausible Signal
    00096 - Drivers Door Central Locking (Safe) Motor (V161)
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
    008 - Implausible Signal

    Now the car won't start at all so what I am wondering is does anyone know if failed microswitches in the lock will prevent the fuel pump from priming as I have heard 2 different and very valid views. After extensive research on forums here and in the States, a lot of people were saying that the fuel pump needs to have seen a signal for the door opening and it will prime the fuel pump...and then a Mechanic at a local garage tells me he has never heard of a faulty door mech preventing a vehicle from starting. Any advice is gratefully received as I am running round in circles with this and getting nowhere. Apologies for the structure of my thread...I am afraid I am not au fait with forum etiquette. Many thanks
     
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  2. Re: A3 3.2 Door Locking Mech Preventing Fuel Pump Prime 
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    VIN: WAUZZZ8P34A149809 License Plate:


    Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 56

    VIN: WAUZZZ8P34A149809 Mileage: 214500km-133284miles

    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
    Part No SW: 022 906 032 CB HW: Bas isX 3
    Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G 8088
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUX7Z0D2FN10MS
    Coding: 0000178
    Shop #: WSC 00565 210 61806
    VCID: 4D910352D410342A1B-8018

    1 Fault Found:
    18080 - Coolant Fan Control 1
    P1672 - 004 - Open or Short to Ground - MIL ON
    Readiness: 0110 1001

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
    Part No SW: 02E 300 046 D HW: 02E 927 770 L
    Component: GSG DSG 0606
    Revision: 03149888 Serial number: 00000402250075
    Coding: 0000020
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 183FA2062B52818278-804C

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 907 379 E
    Component: ESP ALLRAD MK60 0103
    Coding: 0021128
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 346776B657FA45E274-8060

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 G HW: 8P0 820 043 G
    Component: KlimavollautomatH12 0150
    Revision: 001954 Serial number: 8P0820043G
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 306F7AA6A3E279C210-8064

    5 Faults Found:
    01272 - Positioning Motor for Central Flap (V70)
    003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100011
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 6
    Reset counter: 67
    Mileage: 213361 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.09.26
    Time: 18:03:46

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 13.90 V
    Temperature: 11.0°C
    (no units): 25.0
    (no units): 70.0
    Temperature: 8.5°C

    00532 - Supply Voltage B+
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100010
    Fault Priority: 1
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 68
    Mileage: 214498 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.11.01
    Time: 18:42:00

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 9.00 V

    01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
    003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100011
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 5
    Reset counter: 68
    Mileage: 214240 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.10.21
    Time: 00:18:48

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 13.80 V
    Temperature: 10.0°C
    (no units): 168.0
    (no units): 35.0
    Temperature: 8.5°C

    00710 - Defroster Flap Positioning Motor (V107)
    003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100011
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 63
    Mileage: 214240 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.10.21
    Time: 02:47:34

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 14.10 V
    Temperature: 15.5°C
    (no units): 26.0
    (no units): 225.0
    Temperature: 8.5°C

    00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113)
    003 - Mechanical Failure
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100011
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 3
    Reset counter: 29
    Mileage: 214502 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.01.08
    Time: 00:00:13

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 13.80 V
    Temperature: 12.0°C
    (no units): 205.0
    (no units): 38.0
    Temperature: 8.5°C


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 A HW: 8P0 907 279 A*
    Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0501
    Revision: 00030000 Serial number: 00000000626744
    Coding: 018CCF01A0141000000000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 3B755D8A7AA48A9AB5-806E

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 C Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer WWS Audi350 0180
    Coding: 16711696
    Shop #: WSC 00000

    2 Faults Found:
    02394 - Parking Light Left Front (M1)
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    02395 - Parking Light Front Right (M3)
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 D HW: 8P0 959 655 D
    Component: Airbag 8.4ED H00 0140
    Coding: 0411602
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 4385256A0254F25AFD-8016

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 HW: 8P0 953 549
    Component: Lenksäulenmodul H11 0020
    Coding: 0011142
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 7BF59D8A3A244A9AF5-802E

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
    Component: Lenkradmodul H03 0040

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 980 J HW: 8P0 920 980 J
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140
    Revision: D09 Serial number: 2242DD09005543
    Coding: 0001401
    Shop #: WSC 00565 067 57207
    VCID: 3E73549E69B69FB292-806A

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: Gateway H08 0100
    Revision: 08 Serial number: 250010421902AB
    Coding: BF0F0340070101
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 285F92C69B323102C8-807C

    2 Faults Found:
    00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101100
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 3
    Reset counter: 69
    Mileage: 214502 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.01.07
    Time: 23:37:21

    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 69
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.01.08
    Time: 02:48:15


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 907 554
    Component: HALDEX 4Motion 0101
    Coding: 0000001
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 6ADBA8CE45BEC3121E-803E

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 980 J HW: 8P0 920 980 J
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140
    Revision: D09 Serial number: AUX7Z0D2FN10MS
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 3E73549E69B69FB292-806A

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 801 A
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0010
    Coding: 0000048
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 397947827098B88AA7-806C

    3 Faults Found:
    01030 - Central Locking Key Switch; Driver Side; Lock
    008 - Implausible Signal
    00096 - Drivers Door Central Locking (Safe) Motor (V161)
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
    008 - Implausible Signal

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
    Part No: 1K2 909 144 F
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.10 1301
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 2F6D79DABEDC663A09-807A

    2 Faults Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    000 - -
    00750 - Warning Lamp
    013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 4480 km
    Temperature: 8.0°C
    Voltage: 11.70 V
    Voltage: 11.60 V


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 433
    Component: KSG H02 0040
    Coding: 008800186D288505485AC63000
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 79F987823018788AE7-802C

    Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder No Answer

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719
    Component: Neigungssensor 003 0003

    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8P0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw.H03 0010

    2 Faults Found:
    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
    004 - No Signal/Communication

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 802 A
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0010
    Coding: 0000048
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 3A7B588E759EB392AE-806E

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8P0-035-1xx-56.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 195 HW: 8P0 035 195
    Component: symphony II EU H56 0410
    Revision: 20S Serial number: AUZ5Z4D5392122
    Coding: 0000201
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 6FEDB9DA7E5C263A49-803A

    No fault code found.

    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:54)--------------------------
     
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  3. Re: A3 3.2 Door Locking Mech Preventing Fuel Pump Prime 
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    Well...my reservation about joining a bunch of muggy forum bellends has proved well founded. Moderator please close my account. This is a bunch of useless *****.
     
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  4. Re: A3 3.2 Door Locking Mech Preventing Fuel Pump Prime 
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    Not sure why you're so keen to take that view less than a day after asking a short question with a lot of words.

    I'd have to check, but doesn't VCDS have an option to test the fuel pump prime? If that works then I think ECU isn't getting the signal to tell it someone is about to try and start the car, which may come from driver door. I'd have to repeat various research you've already done to try and figure out if the specific model uses that approach.

    Do lights come on when you open door? That's often the same signal being used by CCU and ECU to trigger lights, priming, etc. If lights come on and VCDS test of priming doesn't work I'd say it is primer control electrucs ratger than door signal.

    Personally I'd replace door lock or control module to clear those errors anyway and see if it fixes priming issue.
     
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