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  1. A3 CAYC 1.6Tdi Starts then stops after a few seconds - brake fault 
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    A3 CAYC 1.6Tdi starts then stops after a few seconds - it shows a brake fault on the dash but when scanned with VCDS there are no errors.

    Further investigation shows fault code for "Speed Encoder Errors 65535" on front right, front left, rear right and rear left if that has any relevance.

    Any help is much appreciated thanks
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  2. Re: A3 CAYC 1.6Tdi Starts then stops after a few seconds - brake fault 
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    Code:
    Wednesday,04,December,2019,17:10:56:42137
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8P1AA080971   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8P-AU35 (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 61
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8P1AA080971   Mileage: 156870km-97474miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 023 M    HW: 03L 906 023 L
       Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H23 9979  
       Revision: --H23---    Serial number: AUX7Z0I9FNQ0OX
       Coding: 00114016030501080000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023M 003017
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557R.rod
       VCID: 3038E0DC1AA91A17797-8064
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9874 - Boost Pressure Control Valve/Solenoid (Bank 1) 
              P0045 00 [172] - Open Circuit
              MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Mileage: 156868 km
                        Date: 2019.12.03
                        Time: 16:05:20
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 42 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 15 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.424 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Charge Pressure Actuator: acknowledgment-ANG_BPA[0]: 10.492 %
                        Charge Pressure Actuator: activation-ANG_SP_BPA[0]: 20.000 %
                        High press turbocharger actuator: actual uncond volt value-V_BPA[0]: 0.732 V
                        Turbocharger boost control: offset open-V_BPA_BOL[0]: 0.498 V
                        Turbocharger boost control: offset closed-V_BPA_TOL[0]: 3.394 V
                        Charge air pressure: actual value-MAP_MMV: 200.00 hPa
                        Sensor for temp after charge air cooler: raw value-TBA_MES: 8 °C
    
    Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BA    HW: 1K0 907 379 BA
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H45 0109  
       Revision: 00H45001    
       Coding: 13422012092A00FAC81404EB901A00913800
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: 72BC2AD4D4A56807CF3-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 BK    HW: 8P0 820 043 BK
       Component: KlimavollautomatH09 0140  
       Revision: 000425      Serial number: 8P0820043BK   
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 76B416C4B4CD7427E3B-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8P0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 A    HW: 8P0 907 063 A
       Component: BCM PQ35  M   105 0575  
       Revision: 00105 AJ    
       Coding: 0E000A2FB005F000207041E00000014C431A23AA004DC12AE4008F800041
       Shop #: WSC 00899 210 95606
       VCID: 323CEAD4142528070F3-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8P2 955 119 F    HW: 8P2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer AU350  H10 0040 
       Coding: 00DD13
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8P0 951 177 
       Component: Innenraumuebe  H04 0020 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
       Component: Neigungssenso  005 0003 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101110
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 99
                        Mileage: 156868 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.12.03
                        Time: 21:33:30
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 14.65 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            Term 50 On
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8P0-959-655-10.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 P    HW: 8P0 959 655 P
       Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0160  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003FB003SKSM
       Coding: 303142413039303030384A55305238503053
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
       ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
       VCID: 4FFA8320675765EF00D-801A
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 34928RB400005147184C
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 35028RB4000051C09247
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 35128RB400005147C1AF
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 35228RB40000514782EH
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 35547RB40000518CC8D$
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 35647RB40000518CC9C/
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 K    HW: 8P0 953 549 K
       Component: J0527           H37 0070  
       Coding: 0002012
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: 46D4A60484ADA4A7B3B-8012
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           H02 0030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 J    HW: 8P0 920 982 J
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H03 0990  
       Revision: D0H03004    Serial number: 2249I004010854
       Coding: 0004428
       Shop #: WSC 54064 210 66681
       VCID: 40D8B01CA6898A97897-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AF    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H17 0231  
       Revision:   H17       Serial number: 1321J09A23078E
       Coding: E9801F06100202040101
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: 6B8237B0FF8FB9CF0C5-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 J    HW: 8P0 920 982 J
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H03 0990  
       Revision: D0H03004    Serial number: AUX7Z0I9FNQ0OX
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 40D8B01CA6898A97897-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 N    HW: 8P0 959 801 N
       Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0100  
       Coding: 0131636
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: 46D4A60484ADA4A7B3B-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 H
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 232    2901  
       Revision: 00H17000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 2F3AE3A00B1705EF60D-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P3 035 382 E    HW: 8P3 035 382 E
       Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH31 0160  
       Revision: 00007       Serial number: 92157948699207
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3536D1C8E94B3F3F2A1-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 N    HW: 8P0 959 802 N
       Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0100  
       Coding: 0131636
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: 47CAAB0083A7BDAF48D-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 S    HW: 8P0 035 186 S
       Component: R Concert2+     H03 0280  
       Revision: 00H03000    Serial number: AUZ1Z3I5162009
       Coding: 0310011
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: 42DCBA14A88598879F3-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Batt.regelung H17 0231  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 1321J09A23078E
       Coding: 0303085A
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: 688848BCE27992D7617-803C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 C    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0125 
       Serial number: 00000000002790115227
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:07, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------
     
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  3. Re: A3 CAYC 1.6Tdi Starts then stops after a few seconds - brake fault 
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    I disconnected the engine boost control valve so that fault isnt an issue. I also tried switching off stop/start but that didnt change anything. The ESP/ABS and handbrake warning light would flash as well when it wont start.
     
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    You have had a booster pack on there haven’t you?
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    Yes sure have thanks Crasher. It broke down the day before, just stopped on the road. Its a EA189 car with the software update done. Would a failed EGR valve be responsible?
     
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    An immobiliser fault will not stop it when running, a low battery voltage will, giving it a 14.65v spike last night at 9.33pm could have upset the dash.
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    Any ideas or suggestions for the best next step?
     
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    Charge the battery over night disconnected and try again.
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    Apologies, I was reading my original post and I didnt mention that it stopped on the road altogether prior to this fault where it will now only run for a few seconds (poorly) before cutting out. There was no problem until it stopped and now it is doing everything I mentioned before. Could it still be the battery?
     
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    That doesn't sound like the immobilser cutting the engine out, are you seeing no relevant fault codes still? You you have a multimeter so you can check the battery voltage? If it is the battery it should run on the booster pack and cut when that is disconnected.
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