Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171

**willdudeuk** · 12-10-2019,12:30 PM

Hi,

Got an issue with my Golf Mk5 1.6 FSI.

FULL AUTO SCAN:

Code:

Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ4W096975   Mileage: 316260km-196514miles


00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03C-906-056-BAG.lbl
   Part No SW: 03C 906 056 BA    HW: Hardware No 
   Component: MED9.5.10       G00 5697  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D9331576
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 63C1C201A2D6B057DA-8036


1 Fault Found:
17580 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Signal too Low 
            P1172 - 002 - 
Readiness: 0100 0000


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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0103  
   Coding: 0019073
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3A7F5F6575DC919FA9-806E


1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 CB
   Component: Climatic PQ35   080 0201  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 66C7DB1551E4C57F3D-8032


No fault code found.


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 K    HW: 1K0 937 049 K*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0701  
   Revision: 00030000    Serial number: 00000000514812
   Coding: E48D0F0600041800001400001400000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3779465146CE8CF756-8062


   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401  
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00000  


   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 K  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 002  0505  
   Coding: 00217125
   Shop #: WSC 00000  


No fault code found.


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 A    HW: 1K0 909 605 A
   Component: 0M AIRBAG VW8   022 0500  
   Revision: 04022000    Serial number: 0033FD08P0VC  
   Coding: 0012365
   Shop #: WSC 01268 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5F6F25857C211FD9-807E


   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME5D7E1002 


   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME57340A02 


   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME43485801 


   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME5D0F5901 


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 A    HW: 1K0 953 549 A
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 012 0030  
   Coding: 0000022
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 306B7D4DA3A05BCF17-8064


No fault code found.


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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 950 K
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 3554  
   Coding: 0000401
   Shop #: WSC 00218 210 03908
   VCID: 306B7D4DA3A05BCF17-8064


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H08 0080  
   Revision: 08          Serial number: 2100104128EF35
   Coding: 3D0F0340070003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 27599611966E1C77C6-8072


No fault code found.


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 950 K
   Component: IMMO                3554  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 306B7D4DA3A05BCF17-8064


No fault code found.


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0116  
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 306B7D4DA3A05BCF17-8064


No fault code found.


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V1.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.1       1202  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2E576335B9944D3F05-807A


No fault code found.


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 BL
   Component: 01 KSG              0301  
   Coding: 81E802087F2D8505485BC61000
   Shop #: WSC 00218 210 08203
   VCID: 7BF19A613A666897F2-802E


   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501


   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 
   Component: Neigungssensor  003 0003


   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 177 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0101


No fault code found.


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 E
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0116  
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 316D7849A8AA52C718-8064


No fault code found.


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 J
   Component: Radio BNO           0016  
   Coding: 0040400
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2D556439B49236273C-8078


No fault code found.


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VCDS is showing fault with throttle body:

17580 / P1172 - Angle sensor 2 for throttle actuator G188 signal too low.

or (on other scans show)

17579 / P1171 - Angle sensor 2 for throttle actuator G188 implausible signal.

also fault showing with ABS brakes:

01314 - Engine Control Module - 013 - check DTC memory

Car will drive for a bit when DTCs are cleared and throttle body adapted but then will go into limp home

mode (can't go above 3000rpm).

Have tried a second hand throttle body but still getting the same issue (but less often / sporadically)

(reading MVB 062 in VCDS shows steady values / signals for G187 and G188).

However the original throttle body I had on there was definitely on the fritz (or could be bad wiring,

connectors or ECU damp?) as when reading measuring block values / MVB 062 you could see sensor

2 G188 fluctuating wildly and not holding a steady value when at idle position

Don't want to fork out for an OEM throttle body at £500!

But also don't want to buy a cheap knock off.

Any advice on this issue would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

**Crasher** · 13-10-2019,12:05 AM

Did you make sure the used throttle body was the correct part number, perfectly clean inside and then adapt it to the ECU in Basic Settings 060?

**willdudeuk** · 25-10-2019,06:57 PM

Hi Crasher I tried a new throttle body (not an oem part / aftermarket - metzger) and still had the same issues / showing same codes. What would you recommend doing next?

**Crasher** · 26-10-2019,11:07 AM

Can you rind me the part number of the Metzger throttle body? Did you do Basic Settings 060?

**willdudeuk** · 26-10-2019,11:44 AM

Yes I reset the throttle body using basic settings group 060 on vcds..... followed the instructions as per the ross tech video

Part number for Metzger Throttle Body is ARTICLE №: 0892429

**Crasher** · 26-10-2019,06:30 PM

The OE number is 03C 133 062 A and this cross references on Tec Doc as a Metzger 0892429 so that is correct, leaves me a bit stuck...

**willdudeuk** · 27-10-2019,09:51 AM

Going to try and take a look at the wiring a connectors between the throttle body and Ecu.

There is a TSB 2018652 which splices in 6 new wires to the throttle body (just the last 12 inches).

Fingers crossed with new connector, new terminal pins and wiring it will resolve the issue.

If if not I’m stumped too or it’s an ECU issue?

**Crasher** · 27-10-2019,11:44 AM

I would be replacing the pins at both ends with Gold plated ones as I stock them and have the crimps but you may have to use VAG repair wires which I don’t like.

**willdudeuk** · 27-10-2019,12:29 PM

Thanks for the advice Crasher.

How would I obtain these pins and crimps from you?

What are the VAG repair wires? Is there a part number?

**Crasher** · 27-10-2019,08:04 PM

I think it is an AMP mini timer without being able to check at work, I get them from Buy Flat plug contact Junior Power Timer (JPT) 2.8 online

And these to crimp them on

Buy Crimping tool for uninsulated flat connectors (0714104121) online

The VAG repair wires are available from VW dealers or TPS if you have an account

These aren’t the correct numbers but give you the idea