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  1. Dead electronics ? Car immobilized... 
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    Friends, got a tricky one with a Golf IV TDI 115 1J1 from 2001.

    Left it standing for a year without starting it and when I reconnected the battery, the locked key symbol came up. No way to start it.
    Then it said 'Airbag malfunction', Car locked and on top no electrical windows...
    The car starts for 3s but then stops due to the active immobilizer.

    Now I found that strange and pulled out my W7 with VCDS on it and gave it a try with autoscan.
    As a result, every component in the car (AC, ABS, Engine, Airbags etc.) comes back with all possible errors listed as 'Faulty - Intermittent'.
    Never had something like this on my good old Golf IV but it's stranded and I wonder where this issue is located.

    Have a look at the VCDS autoscan report below. Every possible component comes back as faulty. There's something central that is bugging or dead.
    Suggestions & ideas welcome.

    Saturday,28,September,2019,18:50:32:39744
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
    Ross-Tech: Home


    VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ2W176050 License Plate:


    Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
    76

    VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ2W176050 Mileage: 219050km-136111miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-AJM.lbl
    Part No: 038 906 019 CJ
    Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 1086
    Coding: 00002
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 61CE7EC6EBD2EA4986-4B18

    5 Faults Found:
    19561 - Valve for Intake Manifold Flap (N239)
    P3105 - 35-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    17957 - Boost Pressure Regulation Valve (N75)
    P1549 - 35-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    17849 - EGR Valve (N18)
    P1441 - 35-10 - Open Circuit or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    17948 - Vehicle Speed Signal
    P1540 - 35-00 - Signal too High
    17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
    P1570 - 35-00 -
    Readiness: 0 0 X X X

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
    Part No: 1C0 907 379 E
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0104
    Coding: 0019458
    Shop #: WSC 01317 785 00200
    VCID: 2C50DFF28C90772165-515A

    4 Faults Found:
    01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64)
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
    000 - - - Intermittent
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl
    Part No: 3B1 907 044 C
    Component: CLIMATRONIC C 2.0.0
    Coding: 11000
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 214E3EC6AB52AA49C6-5196

    3 Faults Found:
    01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
    37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
    01272 - Positioning Motor for Central Flap (V70)
    37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
    01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
    37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
    Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
    Component: 27 AIRBAG VW51 01 02
    Coding: 12855
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 224C31CAAE54B151DF-515A

    2 Faults Found:
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+
    07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 920 826 C
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. BPV V07
    Coding: 01124
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 295E26E6D36262099E-515A
    WVWZZZ1JZ2W176050 VWZ6Z0A3718975

    5 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01128 - Immobilizer Pickup Coil (D2)
    35-00 - -

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
    Part No: 6N0 909 901
    Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
    Coding: 00006
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 70E80B82303853C119-513C

    5 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
    Part No: 1C0 959 799 B
    Component: 1C Komfortgerát HLO 0003
    Coding: 00259
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 3664FD9A12DC3DF103-4B18

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
    Component: 1C Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0003

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
    Component: 1C Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0002

    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
    Component: 1C Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0002

    Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
    Component: 1C Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0002

    11 Faults Found:
    01389 - Tailgate Open Switch (F124)
    27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
    25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent
    00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
    35-00 - -
    00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
    62-10 - No or Incorrect Adjustment - Intermittent
    00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
    27-00 - Implausible Signal
    00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
    35-00 - -
    01035 - Electric Window Thermal Protection Active; Passenger
    35-10 - - - Intermittent
    00934 - Electric Window Motor; Rear Left (V26)
    35-00 - -
    01036 - Electric Window Thermal Protection Active; Rear Left
    35-10 - - - Intermittent
    00935 - Electric Window Motor; Rear Right (V27)
    35-00 - -

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-15x-56.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 035 152 F
    Component: Radio BNO 0005
    Coding: 00003
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 214E3EC6AB52AA49C6-4B00

    1 Fault Found:
    00852 - Loudspeaker(s); Front
    36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:01)--------------------------
     
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  2. Re: Dead electronics ? Car immobilized... 
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    I would do the basics first, make sure all main fuses haven’t corroded and that your earths are all intact and not dead, grab a mutimeter and check that your main rays have clicked to on and are powering all the modules correctly, also check the ecu isn’t sat in water if the plenum chambers have filled with leaves. My guess is the ECU either has a bad earth or it’s buggered. Presume you’ve tried clearing all the faults and done live metering on the core sensors?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathanfenton View Post
    I would do the basics first, make sure all main fuses haven’t corroded and that your earths are all intact and not dead, grab a mutimeter and check that your main rays have clicked to on and are powering all the modules correctly, also check the ecu isn’t sat in water if the plenum chambers have filled with leaves. My guess is the ECU either has a bad earth or it’s buggered. Presume you’ve tried clearing all the faults and done live metering on the core sensors?


    Hey thanks for looking into that. Was away for a couple of days and got right back to the car this afternoon.

    All fuses are ok (checked these actually before using the VAGCOM) and the car is dry (no leaves or humidity). I checked all connectors, disconnected & reconnected, battery is fully charged.
    I've cleared all error messages and only the immobilizer remains now listed and active. Airbag error message is gone too.
    Could it be that the ECU simply desynchronized with both keys ? Car keeps starting like a charm and dies 2 secs after as the immobilizer kills the engine.
    I could maybe try to pair again the keys but I've never done that before and I believe I need also the login code that is specific to each ECU.

    I could also unmount the ECU first and check its condition.Maybe have a look at the electronic board. I've read that it happens that age actually leads to porous or broken solderings and that redoing these solved the issue.

    See the new report below :

    Wednesday,09,October,2019,18:20:46:39744
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
    Ross-Tech: Home


    VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ2W176050 License Plate:


    Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
    76

    VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ2W176050 Mileage: 219050km-136111miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-AJM.lbl
    Part No: 038 906 019 CJ
    Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 1086
    Coding: 00002
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 61CE7EC6EBD2EA4986-4B18

    1 Fault Found:
    17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
    P1570 - 35-00 -
    Readiness: 0 0 X X X

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
    Part No: 1C0 907 379 E
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0104
    Coding: 0019458
    Shop #: WSC 01317 785 00200
    VCID: 2C50DFF28C90772165-515A

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl
    Part No: 3B1 907 044 C
    Component: CLIMATRONIC C 2.0.0
    Coding: 11000
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 214E3EC6AB52AA49C6-5196

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
    Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
    Component: 27 AIRBAG VW51 01 02
    Coding: 12855
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 224C31CAAE54B151DF-515A

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 920 826 C
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. BPV V07
    Coding: 01124
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 295E26E6D36262099E-515A
    WVWZZZ1JZ2W176050 VWZ6Z0A3718975

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
    Part No: 6N0 909 901
    Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
    Coding: 00006
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 70E80B82303853C119-515A

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
    Part No: 1C0 959 799 B
    Component: 1C Komfortgerát HLO 0003
    Coding: 00259
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 3664FD9A12DC3DF103-4B00

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
    Component: 1C Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0003

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
    Component: 1C Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0002

    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
    Component: 1C Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0002

    Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
    Component: 1C Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0002

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-15x-56.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 035 152 F
    Component: Radio BNO 0005
    Coding: 00003
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 214E3EC6AB52AA49C6-4B00

    No fault code found.

    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:07)--------------------------
     
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    Pretty sure if you don’t have the plastic tag with the immobiliser code you have to use the proper VW VPN to get it synchronised. Could try a re-sync but if it were me I’d just get one off a scrapper and get it all coded to save repeat problems unless you’re a dab hand at soldering!
     
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