mk5 golf gt tdi 170

[marki_2014]

hi im new to the forum so please bare with me and sorry if this post has already been created

i've brought a 56 plate mk5 golf gt tdi as a none runner fix it upper

so i got the car and unplugged each injector till it started and it would start with number 3 plugged in, so i sent it off for a recon they phoned me up and said that the body was f**ked and that it would give a error code of "short to ground" which it did, so they had a 2nd body and replaced everything else. so i popped in it and it started but took a while etc etc left it 24 hours and took a while to start again and it did again n again every time i left it to go cold but once started and warmed up a little it started first time every time without fail.
so i was told its struggling to start when cold because the injector needs coding so i borrowed a free copy of vcds of my mate and it wouldn't give me a option to code the injector but if gave my a option to reset the values so vcds said it had to be reset to 0 etc i did, again could get started, tried priming the fuel pump through vcds, never worked so ended up using WD40 got it started again ( i know that a big no no ) and so i found someone on ebay that said they can code the injector.................... guess what £50 later he cant code but reset the value to 0 told him already done that etc so checked the following

timing, dpf, egr, injector fueling, injector timing and everything is in time apart from the dpf which was 79 which max should be 60 so dpf is blocked, so we said basically the car need t be driven to unblock it and mate everything would settle down and correct it self but as i was driven and old revs on to do a dpf gen the car cut out and wont start again right after the coolant fan kicked it


please if anyone can help me or come and look at it for a small fee and will be very grateful p.s i've asked on fb pages and no replyies

it as if the fuel is struggling but im not too sure and stress out cant find anything on the net


mark

[marki_2014]

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[Crasher]

The BMN is notorious for injector problems, they were part of a now expired "cam pain" by VW to upgrade them, according to VW and the injector manufacturer Siemens, it is not possible to recondition these units and most companies that do recon injectors won't touch them. They DO NOT have to be coded, that is on a Common Rail not a PD BUT their rocker arm stroke setting must be checked. Were any fault codes stored?

[marki_2014]

mate thank you so much for the reply, so ive had number 3 recon but sold me a 2nd hand body the recon was just seals i think, but any how the fault codes were

short to ground injector 3 p2146
motronic engine control module power supply replay : electrical in circuit short to ground p1517

these cleared after recon inject was put it but then i got a intermittent fault with injector 3 and glow plug 3 so changed the hardness and it was difficalt to start when cold but i ran it up to do a dpf gen clean as its blocked and it then cut out after the fan kicked in and wont start again unless i use wd40, i know its a big no no but lest i know it starts, its asif its starin of fuel

thanks again great full of all help

[Crasher]

So what fault codes are you getting now? We simply will not fit none genuine exchnage injectors from VAG so we know they are correct and if one fails again with two years, you give the car and the receipt to the dealer and they sort it out. How much did you pay for the recon injector?

[marki_2014]

Hi crasher thanks for the reply, fault codes are dpf and air flow mass sensor, trying up load a video cuz ive looked at the and its 3.37* so i think it is actually out of spec but im no expert at this ****, thiers a few pics of things ive looked at on vcds and not to sure but the pics n vids wont load is their a easier way to load or send them?

[marki_2014]

Here is a quick video of the torsionni was looking on vcds sorry when i get five mins at work im going to turn and do the timming from scratch again, does it beed to be adjusted through vcds or anythink like that crasher?

[Crasher]

What are the fault code numbers?

[marki_2014]

hi crasher sorry for the long long reply my mate had his vagcom back but ive brought my own now but anyways today 16.5.19 i done my timing belt as it was out of spec and it started up easier

but i left it rung till the fan kicked in and it cut out and would start, but when it was cold it started after some cranking and cut out again after a split sec

but ive done a vagcom scan and its cam up with camshaft sensor etc but i checked my timing and my locking tools fellow right into place so what can be round now? im thinking i need it remapped now for the hot start now

here is my vagcom scan


Thursday,16,May,2019,14:12:25:00007
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
Ross-Tech: Home


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ7B029271 License Plate: SP56AHG
Mileage: 246050km-152888mi Repair Order: 20101988



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ7B029271 Mileage: 246050km-152888miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-018-BMN.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 018 DF HW: 03G 906 018 DF
Component: R4 2.0l PPD1.2 G 4345
Revision: --H22--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0F7033264
Coding: 0000072
Shop #: WSC 00191 264 15243
VCID: 6CD772B14F8BF02A19-8038

4 Faults Found:
000258 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
P0102 - 007 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 37
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
0.00 %
Voltage: 12.32 V
Mass Air / Rev.: 932.0 mg/str
Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str

000280 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62)
P0118 - 006 - Signal too High - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 18
Reset counter: 38
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
0.00 %
Voltage: 9.04 V
Temperature: -40.0°C
Temperature: 14.0°C

012296 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
P3008 - 006 - Signal Out of Range - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 38
Mileage: 246051 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:13

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 192 /min
Torque: 144.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Steering Angle: -47.95°
Angle: 0.0 °
(no units): 1.0
Steering Angle: 3.37°

000801 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
P0321 - 006 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 38
Mileage: 246051 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:06:03

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 224 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Time: 0.01 s
Angle: 0.0 °
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000001

Readiness: N/A

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0023170
Shop #: WSC 00878 210 92199
VCID: 73E569CD12B52FD2D8-8026

1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 FH
Component: Climatic PQ35 120 0606
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6FED65BD7E9D0B323C-803A

1 Fault Found:
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E HW: 3C0 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000004241640
Coding: E5890F2700041500001400001400000000087F075C
Shop #: WSC 00046 000 278528
VCID: 2B55B1AD8A05371250-807E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 230606 020 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 00046

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AE Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RLS 191006 014 1201
Coding: 00208933
Shop #: WSC 00046

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
Revision: 05020000 Serial number: 0038PD0L1EJI
Coding: 0013112
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 40960
VCID: 3D718FF56471A9A2FE-8068

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME11066174/

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME1007652C5

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME11461F3FN

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME11497677K

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 636 0070
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 00878 210 88210
VCID: 74E76AD117BB28EAC1-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 920 963 B HW: 1K0 920 963 B
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610
Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F7033264
Coding: 0003403
Shop #: WSC 00878 067 57207
VCID: 2B55B1AD8A05371250-807E

2 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H12 0150
Revision: H12 Serial number: 31001067018AAF
Coding: 3D3F0B4007000003
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 851968
VCID: 2C57B2B18F0B302A59-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 920 963 B HW: 1K0 920 963 B
Component: IMMO VDD 1610
Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F7033264
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B55B1AD8A05371250-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0964
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 851968
VCID: 387F9EE14B538C8A2D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
Part No: 1K2 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 00878 210 92199
VCID: 356197D55C4171E236-8060

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - -

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0202
Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 019002005103087F2D04840570085FC690FCA0
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 557056
VCID: 0305390D42151F52C8-8056

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178
Component: Neigungssensor 001 0101

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178
Component: Innenraumueberw.001 0101

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0964
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 851968
VCID: 39799BE570599582D2-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 R HW: 1K0 035 186 R
Component: Radio FO3 021 0014
Revision: 00021000 Serial number: VWZ7Z2F0017437
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 00878 210 88210
VCID: 356197D55C4171E236-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K HW: 1K0 959 703 K
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0912
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
VCID: 387F9EE14B538C8A2D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K HW: 1K0 959 704 K
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0912
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
VCID: 39799BE570599582D2-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D51BFB5B41139224E-8078

1 Fault Found:
00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35)
014 - Defective

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[Crasher]

Have you fitted a new coolant temp sender? Which crank locking plate style are you using? There are two different types for a BMN, T10050 and T10100 for two different design pulleys (notch or arrow) and you can mix them up.