Notices
 

  

User Tag List

Thread: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 21
  1. Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #1
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Portsmouth
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)
    Hi people , first off wow what a place pretty much anything you want to know you can find just through search !! Amazing place of knowledge

    Iím after some advise on which aftermarket cams to go for in my 2.5tdi AKE 180 version, the drivers side are worn after inspection and I have a noisy right bank tapping like lifter/S are stuck ....

    I had an independent garage price up the job not had it back yet but they are quoting with febi parts .... Iv been reading lots of horror stories of late that lots of their manufacture is outsourced to China now and standards have dropped ! How true is this?

    Iím thinking of maybe supplying my own kit of kolbenschmidt cams and INA everything else as read thatís a good mix

    Can people share their advise on the matter please as although the car has been the most reliable motor Iíve owned and never let me down, Iím wanting to fix her before the bomb goes off and maybe costs more to fix

    Power is down and 2-3 lobs worn on drives bank I have not inspected passenger bank but tempted to swop the whole top end 4 cams,lifters,rockers, pads etc rather than just drivers bank , or another option, can I do a bank a time? And do the passenger side later to keep costs down for me , itís a blimey expensive job 🙈

    Thanks again love to hear from you all

    Shaun
     
    0 0 0
     

  2. Re: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Nottingham, England
    Posts
    35,755
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    2
    Mentioned
    33 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    729 Post(s)
    I have had zero problems with Febi cams, the most important part is to use a ZDDP oil additive with each oil change. The oil check valves under the valley cover MUST be changed as these are usually the reason for the clattering and cam damage at idle.
    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

    Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1868-1956)
     
    0 0 0
     

  3. Re: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #3
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Portsmouth
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)
    Hi crasher!

    Yes Iv been using Eastwood ZDDP additive for the last year or so but the damage has already been done , are you currently still using febi for this job or know if any better parts I could be using, the retention valves I will replace also as mentioned when the work is done.

    I contacted febi directly and asked about warranty and some reassurance on life expectancies....

    I was surprised they only offered a 12k or 12 month warranty when purchasing and fitting a complete cam kit but then also told me the cams were hardened and should live the life of the car , so mixed signals I thought.

    Thanks for the super fast response too Iím literally going through the motions as we speak as to what path to go down , she sits with only 114k on at the moment and is more
    My weekend toy, covering approx 3-4000k a year only

    Shaun
     
    0 0 0
     

  4. Re: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Nottingham, England
    Posts
    35,755
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    2
    Mentioned
    33 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    729 Post(s)
    The problem is the oil people are forced into using, people used to say nasty things about PD 1.9 cams but again, it was the oil that was at fault. In the 90’s VAG knew they were going to have nightmares in the future with flat tappet cams which is why they started to bring in roller lifter designs BUT it did not affect all engines, I can’t recall ever having a flat tappet cam failure in a 1.8T or hardly any other petrol engine for that matter, except on the FSI injection pumps until they also went roller follower. The Yank performance cam aftermarket had a terrible time about a decade ago, caused by modern oils. It is the worlds unhealthy obsession with man made CO2, the biggest con ever foisted on mankind..., after religion
    Last edited by Crasher; 17-03-2019 at 02:41 PM.
    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

    Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1868-1956)
     
    0 0 0
     

  5. Re: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #5
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Portsmouth
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)
    Completely agree, after much reading Iv learnt the cams were never at fault but the oil , to keep up with emissions etc all the protective properties been removed lol read lots about it on flat tapper USA forums on older cars etc ....

    so I shouldn’t worry about the febi parts dispite all the stories , do you use any other parts for these work crasher? Like kolbenschmidt,INA etc If I get the garage to supply they can offer the 12 month parts and labour which is a benefit to me for less worry , if I take in my own parts I’d be left high and dry if they failed early without a huge headache chasing blame.

    What sort of price should the top end swop be? Minus new heads as I hope to god it won’t go that far! Turbo is solid too , so it’s just the guts top end I’m looking to swop. Is it safe doing one side a time if needed? Or do both together?

    Really appriciate the advise steve
     
    0 0 0
     

  6. Re: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #6
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Somerset
    Posts
    2,637
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    242 Post(s)
    What was the culprit oil spec ?
     
    0 1 0
     

  7. Re: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Nottingham, England
    Posts
    35,755
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    2
    Mentioned
    33 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    729 Post(s)
    I think all approved oils are a problem but it isnít the oil companies fault, they are forced into it, for the classic market there are some excellent products that would work well in modern engines IF the oil consumption was very very low. The thing is, the problem is now passing, with VAG units where they suffer cam and chain wear issues they are going roller follower and belt, so the problem goes away. Certainly in a re-cammed AKE I would be looking at a classic oil with lots of nice anti wear additives but then again I canít see the point in rebuilding one with the new emissions zones coming in unless the car will be used outside of them. One point though, I have never had a cam failure on any of my customers cars who follow the service regime I set up. My business partner has a high mileage 4B Allroad with the AKE, we have maintained it since nearly new before he bought it and the cams are perfect.
    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

    Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1868-1956)
     
    0 1 0
     

  8. Re: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #8
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Portsmouth
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)
    Who knows mate? I got the car at 104k so god knows how other people have treated it down the line ... did come with stacks of service history too mostly Audi but as said, even the modern oils been eating away at those cams , mine actually look like something is scraping against the lobe, scored centres

    dealer has always passed me 5/30 oil 507 spec

    it’s a non PD this engine , normally the quantum long life and I change every year
     
    0 0 0
     

  9. Re: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #9
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Portsmouth
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)
    Who knows mate? I got the car at 104k so god knows how other people have treated it down the line ... did come with stacks of service history too mostly Audi but as said, even the modern oils been eating away at those cams , mine actually look like something is scraping against the lobe, scored centres

    dealer has always passed me 5/30 oil 507 spec

    itís a non PD this engine , normally the quantum long life and I change every year
     
    0 0 0
     

  10. Re: Audi 2.5tdi v6 camshafts 
    #10
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Portsmouth
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    I think all approved oils are a problem but it isnít the oil companies fault, they are forced into it, for the classic market there are some excellent products that would work well in modern engines IF the oil consumption was very very low. The thing is, the problem is now passing, with VAG units where they suffer cam and chain wear issues they are going roller follower and belt, so the problem goes away. Certainly in a re-cammed AKE I would be looking at a classic oil with lots of nice anti wear additives but then again I canít see the point in rebuilding one with the new emissions zones coming in unless the car will be used outside of them. One point though, I have never had a cam failure on any of my customers cars who follow the service regime I set up. My business partner has a high mileage 4B Allroad with the AKE, we have maintained it since nearly new before he bought it and the cams are perfect.


    I hear hear what your saying mate and have considered the BAU? Roller type heads instead, but this is just a toy for me and I live outside these emissions zones , after lots of reading about the matter I understand that rebuilding flat tappet type valve trains can be considered a waste of time , for them to just wear again but if I can get another 50-100k from a new camshaft kit Iíd be happy to spend out as the car is a joy to cruise and is stacked with top extras ...

    what at are you charging crasher for this sort of work? Iím estimating the kit to be in the 5-600 plus various gaskets and bearings needed ....maybe same agin on labour C12A0963-B586-414E-85D3-5F45E88C0D70.jpg
     
    0 0 0
     

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. 2.5tdi ake camshafts
    By stephenwhite990 in forum Audi A6 - C5 Forum - 1998 - 2004
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 02-02-2016, 09:56 PM
  2. 2,5 TDI V6 AKE Camshafts
    By Matkring in forum Audi A6 - C5 Forum - 1998 - 2004
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 07-05-2014, 08:33 AM
  3. allroad camshafts replacement - DIY
    By Golf tdi Hal in forum Audi A6 - C5 Forum - 1998 - 2004
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-09-2013, 11:01 PM
  4. Replies: 29
    Last Post: 14-06-2013, 12:02 AM
  5. New Camshafts for Audi a6 2001 Ake) 180bhp
    By PapaLarge in forum A6 - S6 - RS6 - - Archive Topics
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 10-02-2009, 09:52 PM
Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




  


Disclaimer: VW Audi Forum is an "independant enthusiast website", administered in line with guidelines supplied by VAG in the UK, and is in no way related to any of the Worldwide Volkswagen,Audi,Seat,Skoda,Bentley,Bugatti,Porsche or Lamborghini group of Companies. For official up to date information on any of there vehicles, please visit the official websites. Any comments made throughout this website, are the views of the respective poster, and in no way represent the views of the VW Audi Forum Administration, or the worldwide Volkswagen & Audi Group of companies.


VW Audi Forum do not vet and are not responsible for any information which is posted in this forum. All content is viewed and used by you at your own risk and we do not warrant the accuracy or reliability of any of the information.


Copyright: Certain "words", "phrases" and "Images" used on this website by the Administration are "Copyright" of Volkswagen GB, Volkswagen AG (Germany), Audi GB, Audi AG (Germany), Volkswagen Motorsport GB, Volkswagen Motorsport AG (Germany), Audi Motorsport AG (Germany), Volkswagen Racing GB, Bentley, Bugatti, Porsche and Lamborghini. No image can be replicated by anyone WITHOUT the relevant Companies written permission.


All trademarks and copyrights remain property of their respective owners.

No part of the VW Audi Forum website or forum may be reproduced without written permission from the site administration


PLEASE NOTE - PERSONAL ABUSE, ABUSE AGAINST THIS OR ANY OTHER WEBSITE OR ANY COMPANY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. OFFENDERS WILL BE MODERATED OR EVEN BANNED.


This website and forum are best viewed at a minimum resolution of 1024 by 768.



  



- VW AUDI Forum - The #1 Volkswagen (VW) Group Forum - Volkswagen (VW) - Audi - Seat - Skoda - Bentley - Bugatti - Lamborghini - Porsche - VW Audi Forum -


- www.vwaudiforum.co.uk - www.vwaudiforum.co.uk -