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  1. Re: What braking system for my BiTDI 
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    Thanks everyone.

    I did look at the ATE ceramic pads but I definitely need brakes I can rely on without fading as I like to make push the brakes to their limits now and then

    I am fed up with the brake dust however so may consider the red stuff pads again before I order.

    My warning has just come on for the rears I assume, As they were 80% worn when it went for its service compared with the fronts which were 70%. So I think I'll order the Brembos for the rear and get those fitted asap.

    It says the Brembos are coated but my experience of Brembos previously is they eventually go rusty anyway. So I might get some high temp paint to put on them before I get them fitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSRed View Post
    Thanks everyone.

    I did look at the ATE ceramic pads but I definitely need brakes I can rely on without fading as I like to make push the brakes to their limits now and then

    I am fed up with the brake dust however so may consider the red stuff pads again before I order.

    My warning has just come on for the rears I assume, As they were 80% worn when it went for its service compared with the fronts which were 70%. So I think I'll order the Brembos for the rear and get those fitted asap.

    It says the Brembos are coated but my experience of Brembos previously is they eventually go rusty anyway. So I might get some high temp paint to put on them before I get them fitted.

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    Unless some acid type cleaner has been used in my experience with trw and other coated ones they don’t tend to rust. Mine after 10k just looked dirty but definitely it rusty.
     
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  3. Re: What braking system for my BiTDI 
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    Just done my brakes on A6 C7 4G BiTdi with PR: 1LL & 2EA.

    Let me explain the process I use:

    1. Get your brake configuration from the sticker in the service book or the sticked located in the boot of the car.
    2. Identify configuration with this website: Audi A6/Avant (A6) 2013 year Group Parts Audi EUROPA
    3. Find Audi & OEM part numbers and original manufacture for cross reference, I use this page: https://shop.ahw-shop.de/audi-teile/a6-c7-4g/bremse
    4. Find correct parts at *******: ******* — Autoteile Online Shop über 1 Million Kfz-Ersatzteile

    In my case it is:

    For 1LL at the front, disk size 356x34mm 5/112, vented:

    1LL Audi OEM Parts Audi Teilenummer Supplier: ATE
    Disk 4G0615301K 4G0615301A ATE Bremsscheibe Vorderachse, Ø: 356,0mm, belüftet, beschichtet — Art. Nr.: 24.0134-0103.1. Jetzt kaufen!
    Pads 4G0698151M 4G0698151B


    For 2EA at the rear, disk size 330x22mm 5/112, vented:

    2EA Audi OEM Parts Audi Teilenummer Supplier: TRW
    Disk 4H0615601K 4H0615601H TRW Bremsscheibe Hinterachse, Ø: 330mm, belüftet, lackiert — Art. Nr.: DF6175S. Jetzt kaufen!
    Pads 4G0698451A 4G0698451A

    Total cost of parts, disks and pads EUR410 from ******* in Germany, one of those 23% discount day.
    All fitted and new fluid flush, at my local garage near Munich at EUR240.
    Total job at EUR650, fraction of the Audi garage price, where just front discs are at around EUR900.

    Now only left babying the car for 200-300km, until the brakes bed-in correctly, to reach full efficiency.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by przeniko View Post
    Just done my brakes on A6 C7 4G BiTdi with PR: 1LL & 2EA.

    Let me explain the process I use:

    1. Get your brake configuration from the sticker in the service book or the sticked located in the boot of the car.
    2. Identify configuration with this website: Audi A6/Avant (A6) 2013 year Group Parts Audi EUROPA
    3. Find Audi & OEM part numbers and original manufacture for cross reference, I use this page: https://shop.ahw-shop.de/audi-teile/a6-c7-4g/bremse
    4. Find correct parts at *******: ******* — Autoteile Online Shop über 1 Million Kfz-Ersatzteile

    In my case it is:

    For 1LL at the front, disk size 356x34mm 5/112, vented:

    1LL Audi OEM Parts Audi Teilenummer Supplier: ATE
    Disk 4G0615301K 4G0615301A ATE Bremsscheibe Vorderachse, Ø: 356,0mm, belüftet, beschichtet — Art. Nr.: 24.0134-0103.1. Jetzt kaufen!
    Pads 4G0698151M 4G0698151B


    For 2EA at the rear, disk size 330x22mm 5/112, vented:

    2EA Audi OEM Parts Audi Teilenummer Supplier: TRW
    Disk 4H0615601K 4H0615601H TRW Bremsscheibe Hinterachse, Ø: 330mm, belüftet, lackiert — Art. Nr.: DF6175S. Jetzt kaufen!
    Pads 4G0698451A 4G0698451A

    Total cost of parts, disks and pads EUR410 from ******* in Germany, one of those 23% discount day.
    All fitted and new fluid flush, at my local garage near Munich at EUR240.
    Total job at EUR650, fraction of the Audi garage price, where just front discs are at around EUR900.

    Now only left babying the car for 200-300km, until the brakes bed-in correctly, to reach full efficiency.
    Can I ask how you fitted the rear pads? I have done this before on a 2012 A6 and used VCDS to back off the parking brake. What I wasn't sure about was do you the push or screw in the caliper to fully retract it? I screwed it in with no harm, but someone else said it should just be pushed back, so interested to hear from another diy'er.
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  5. Re: What braking system for my BiTDI 
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    ignore that, just seen you had it done at the garage.
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    No worries. Yes I did this at the garage.
    You can do it yourself, this is not rocket science.

    You just need a simple tool like OBD11 or Carista to open the rear brakes and to close them, after the brake change, including calibration procedure for the e-brake. If you have auto hold, it is recommended to run calibration of the tilt sensor.
    I would try to avoid forcing the e-brake manually. Mentioned above tools cost around EUR20-40. I actually recommend to every VAG owner to own one of those deep CANBUS scan tools, benefits are priceless.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by przeniko View Post
    No worries. Yes I did this at the garage.
    You can do it yourself, this is not rocket science.

    You just need a simple tool like OBD11 or Carista to open the rear brakes and to close them, after the brake change, including calibration procedure for the e-brake. If you have auto hold, it is recommended to run calibration of the tilt sensor.
    I would try to avoid forcing the e-brake manually. Mentioned above tools cost around EUR20-40. I actually recommend to every VAG owner to own one of those deep CANBUS scan tools, benefits are priceless.
    I have VCDS, so have done the rears before, but you still need to retract the piston slightly even after backing of the parking brake with VCDS to accommodate the new thicker pads. My query is do you push or screw in the caliper to retract at this stage? I screwed them in on my 2012 A6, seemed fine, but others have said just push. Years ago I made a costly mistake on a Mk 2 Golf GTi by pushing in and damaging the handbrake mechanism.
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