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  1. Front Suspension CLICK or a CLONK 
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    Hi
    Im still trying to cure an annoying click from the front offside suspension of my Avant 1.9 TDI


    I recently changed the front offside wheel bearing which cured the obvious rumbling

    However car has creaks and groans for a while prior to the bearing change

    i cant get it to make a noise when car is jacked up and all ball joints examined no play in joints.
    However i thought the rubber bushes looked a bit tired

    therefore i have changed the two bottom arms

    i have changed the 2 top arms

    the creaking seems to have gone, but not the clunks

    i changed the drop links about 2 years ago, so i dont think they are causing it

    i have placed the car on wooden blocks and had my wife rocking the steering when stationary without any noises

    but as soon as i drive off and "twitch " the wheel click


    can anyone suggest where next please?

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    When you tightened up the arm bushing points, did you do this with the suspension loaded at ride height or fully dropped at damper max extension? Have you had the strut apart, i.e. spring off? Did you replace every single bolt and nut you removed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    When you tightened up the arm bushing points, did you do this with the suspension loaded at ride height or fully dropped at damper max extension? Have you had the strut apart, i.e. spring off? Did you replace every single bolt and nut you removed?
    Hi and thanks for reading my post

    when I replaced top arms I tighten them into position as detailed in Haynes manual
    i.e 1 at 82mm and the other at 70mm from top of strut. Strut was removed to replace them

    the bottom 2 were changed with car off the ground with strut fully extended

    all bolts changed.
     
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    You did the top two correctly although the figures sound odd but as I am at home I can’t check them.

    So the strut has not been dismantled to your knowledge?

    The idea of the procedure for the top arms is to simulate their position when at normal ride height, what you have done with the lower inner bushes is to tighten them up unloaded and then when you put the car on the floor they are then twisted around like the car has another car sitting on top of it and then when you drive they are twisted even further and this quickly destroys them.
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    Hi again
    i understand what you are saying
    so presumably I could place the car on axle stands, slacken bolts in lower arms
    then raise the hub to the correct height as if stood on ground (measured from wheel arch to hub centre?)
    then re-tighten the lower arm bolts.

    if you can confirm sequence I’ll give that a try tonight

    question can the seats above below the spring cause an issue like this?

    i can see in euro parts web site the top seating is a replaceable item
    havent tried that as I haven’t got a spring compressor YET ��
     
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    I jacked up vehicle and slackened all bottom arm bushes, bottom strut bolts (both sides)
    also both drop links and anti roll bar mounts

    placed car on wooden sleepers under all 4 wheels to create height for access

    retightened all bolts


    car is now much better, creaks and groans have gone. So many thanks Crasher for your replys

    still get an intermittent click. Appears to be on drivers side

    any other pointers would be appreciated
     
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    Now you need to replace the bolts if you value your health
    Dark was that day when Diesel conceived his grim engine that begot you, vile invention, more vicious, more criminal than the camera even, metallic monstrosity, bale and bane of our culture, chief woe of our Commonweal. How dare the Law prohibit hashish and heroin yet license your use, who inflate all weak inferior egos? Their addicts only do harm to their own lives: you poison the lungs of the innocent, your din dithers the peaceful, and on choked roads hundreds must daily die by chance-medley. Nimble technicians, surely you should hang your heads in shame. Your wit works mighty wonders, has landed men on the Moon, replaced brains by computers, and can smithy a "smart" bomb. It is a crying scandal that you cannot take the time or be bothered to build us, what sanity knows we need, an odorless and noiseless staid little electric brougham.

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    Hi Crasher
    advice received thanks
    all bolts changed this morning (again)
    peace of mind
    cheers
     
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    so did it fix the click/clunk you were getting
    eye for an eye means the whole world goes blind
     
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    Hi there
    hard to say
    all the loud ones gone. Creaks and groans gone
    still getting a slight noise very intermittently
    difficult to describe but it sounds metallic . Spring ?

    not sure, but much better than when I started
    I’ll have another look after I’ve done a job on my sons A3. See new post and please comment/advise if you can

    thanks
     
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