Notices
 

  

User Tag List

Thread: Matrix LED in the fog

Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. Matrix LED in the fog 
    #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Beds
    Posts
    196
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    38 Post(s)
    Just driven home in dense fog and noticed a few things about the Matrix headlights:

    They are ever so slightly adaptive - something barely noticeable normally. I could see the high beam moving when turning the steering wheel. Shame they don't turn into the corners better.

    They were constantly adapting the beam pattern due to the fog. High beam went on and then dropped intensity and height. Faster I went the more the beam lifted in height and brightness. That was pretty cool.

    Didn't react as well to incoming traffic in the fog and didn't always cut them out in time or at all.

    I've heard people saying they are linked to the GPS. There was absolutely no evidence of this. Only changes were speed dependent (turning on all weather LED section) or steering input.


    I still feel overall they're not adaptive enough compared to previous cars which has always been a let down for me as corners are darker than I want them to be, but tonight they've clawed back a small victory by finding that perfect balance between the dipped and high beam to get me home through the dense fog.

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
     
    0 0 0
     

  2. Re: Matrix LED in the fog 
    #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    South Lakes, UK
    Posts
    80
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    12 Post(s)
    How are they for visibility in fog? Always found brighter lights to be poor in fog and it used to be the case that yellower light is better for fog.

    Be interested to know how the LEDs compare to halogens on this one.

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
     
    0 0 0
     

  3. Re: Matrix LED in the fog 
    #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Beds
    Posts
    196
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    38 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jmagee View Post
    How are they for visibility in fog? Always found brighter lights to be poor in fog and it used to be the case that yellower light is better for fog.

    Be interested to know how the LEDs compare to halogens on this one.

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
    They were pretty good. The didn't stay of full beam for long, rather they reduced intensity but we're adapting the distance of the beam for better visibility.

    My other car has halogen headlights and they are crap in comparison at night... fog they seem ok but to be honest it's not that discernable. The beam pattern of the LEDs put the light further forward and dimmer than full beam. It seemed to adapt based on density of the fog

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
     
    0 1 0
     

  4. Re: Matrix LED in the fog 
    #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    South Lakes, UK
    Posts
    80
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    12 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by JSRed View Post
    They were pretty good. The didn't stay of full beam for long, rather they reduced intensity but we're adapting the distance of the beam for better visibility.

    My other car has halogen headlights and they are crap in comparison at night... fog they seem ok but to be honest it's not that discernable. The beam pattern of the LEDs put the light further forward and dimmer than full beam. It seemed to adapt based on density of the fog

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
    Nice! It annoys me that my 17 Passat R line doesn't have them. Even more so now they're standard 12 months after mine was built. Still something to look forward to next time

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
     
    0 0 0
     

  5. Re: Matrix LED in the fog 
    #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Lithuania
    Posts
    6
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    1 Post(s)
    Fog lamps are the biggest scam ever, I swear, yet to see a car that actually makes anything look better in fog, have C7 with full led
     
    0 0 0
     

  6. Re: Matrix LED in the fog 
    #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Cramlington,Northumberland
    Posts
    1,862
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    9 Post(s)
    Why did you have high beam activated in Fog? It would have been better to switch on the all-weather lamps.
    Alan.

    A6 Avant (C7) 3.0 TFSI Quattro S-Tronic
    APR ST1
     
    0 0 0
     

  7. Re: Matrix LED in the fog 
    #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Beds
    Posts
    196
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    38 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alan02 View Post
    Why did you have high beam activated in Fog? It would have been better to switch on the all-weather lamps.
    They were on auto and the all weather LEDs were on too. And as I said, the matrix lights realised it was foggy and dimmed to take account of that, but spread the beam further then dipped beam improving visibility overall and they were really good. It gave light far enough ahead to see what was coming before you would have on dipped beam, without the glare of main beams.

    So that's why I drove with them on

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
     
    0 0 0
     

  8. Re: Matrix LED in the fog 
    #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    471
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    29 Post(s)
    Not sure how the matrix lights could know it was foggy. I wonder if the level of light reflected back by the water particles in the air and hitting the auto-high-beam sensor was enough to trigger dipped beam mode - so the lights effectively "reacted" correctly to the foggy conditions without knowing it was foggy.

    BTW: On a road I drive daily, there is a very sudden, sharp turn. The matrix lights activate the corner mode before I reach the bend or make any steering input at all. This tallies with Audi's own description of matrix light functions, which states that the lights use GPS data as part of the automatic beam control.

    Also BTW: The adaptive beam angle is never as much as you think it is going to be or should be. On my previous MB, I think the maximum that the lights swivelled in a bend (driven purely by steering input) was around 12 degrees. It still made a big difference to the visibility round corners, even though the actual angle of movement didn't seem that great.
     
    0 0 0
     

  9. Re: Matrix LED in the fog 
    #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Beds
    Posts
    196
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    38 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by wildbore View Post
    Not sure how the matrix lights could know it was foggy. I wonder if the level of light reflected back by the water particles in the air and hitting the auto-high-beam sensor was enough to trigger dipped beam mode - so the lights effectively "reacted" correctly to the foggy conditions without knowing it was foggy.

    BTW: On a road I drive daily, there is a very sudden, sharp turn. The matrix lights activate the corner mode before I reach the bend or make any steering input at all. This tallies with Audi's own description of matrix light functions, which states that the lights use GPS data as part of the automatic beam control.

    Also BTW: The adaptive beam angle is never as much as you think it is going to be or should be. On my previous MB, I think the maximum that the lights swivelled in a bend (driven purely by steering input) was around 12 degrees. It still made a big difference to the visibility round corners, even though the actual angle of movement didn't seem that great.
    It definitely did not go into dipped beam mode. It was constantly changing the beam pattern and brightness. I wish I'd filmed it now. I kept playing with them on auto, then manually on dipped beam and then on high beam and there were noticeable changes between each one.

    I've never noticed anything related to the GPS on mine. I don't find them hardly adaptive at all. All I notice is a patch whoch gets lighter or darker depending on which way i turn. I've had 4 previous cars with adaptive xenon lights so this was a big surprise how fixed they appear.

    My Golf had 15 degrees which was brilliant in the bends, especially when on full beam.


    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
     
    0 0 0
     

  10. Re: Matrix LED in the fog 
    #10
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    471
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    29 Post(s)
    Certainly agree that adaptive on xenons is much more obvious in its working than on these matrix lights - and xenon adaptive seemed better at lighting bends, too, than matrix. But then, apart from the amazing always-on-full-beam capability of matrix, I have not been at all impressed with LED lighting - xenon seems much better to me. I would certainly be disappointed if I had LED with no matrix capability - it would seem like a major step backwards in terms of lighting.

    Roll on laser lights on the C8!
     
    0 0 0
     

Similar Threads

  1. Matrix headlights
    By Donmeister in forum Audi A6 - C7 Forum - 2011- 2018
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 11-10-2017, 08:52 PM
  2. Heater Matrix
    By aks1989 in forum Passat - B5 Forum - 1997 -2005
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 18-11-2014, 12:53 PM
  3. Heater Matrix
    By richball65 in forum Audi A6 - C6 Forum - 2005 - 2010
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 02-10-2013, 06:47 PM
  4. Please Help heater matrix
    By tony47 in forum Audi A4 - B5 Forum - 1995 - 2002
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 16-01-2011, 06:25 PM
  5. Heater Matrix
    By Will22 in forum Audi A3 - Archive Topics
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 20-11-2008, 01:47 PM
Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




  



Disclaimer: VW Audi Forum is an "independant enthusiast website", administered in line with guidelines supplied by VAG in the UK, and is in no way related to any of the Worldwide Volkswagen,Audi,Seat,Skoda,Bentley,Bugatti,Porsche or Lamborghini group of Companies. For official up to date information on any of there vehicles, please visit the official websites. Any comments made throughout this website, are the views of the respective poster, and in no way represent the views of the VW Audi Forum Administration, or the worldwide Volkswagen & Audi Group of companies.


VW Audi Forum do not vet and are not responsible for any information which is posted in this forum. All content is viewed and used by you at your own risk and we do not warrant the accuracy or reliability of any of the information.


Copyright: Certain "words", "phrases" and "Images" used on this website by the Administration are "Copyright" of Volkswagen GB, Volkswagen AG (Germany), Audi GB, Audi AG (Germany), Volkswagen Motorsport GB, Volkswagen Motorsport AG (Germany), Audi Motorsport AG (Germany), Volkswagen Racing GB, Bentley, Bugatti, Porsche and Lamborghini. No image can be replicated by anyone WITHOUT the relevant Companies written permission.


All trademarks and copyrights remain property of their respective owners.

No part of the VW Audi Forum website or forum may be reproduced without written permission from the site administration


PLEASE NOTE - PERSONAL ABUSE, ABUSE AGAINST THIS OR ANY OTHER WEBSITE OR ANY COMPANY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. OFFENDERS WILL BE MODERATED OR EVEN BANNED.


This website and forum are best viewed at a minimum resolution of 1024 by 768.



  



- VW AUDI Forum - The #1 Volkswagen (VW) Group Forum - Volkswagen (VW) - Audi - Seat - Skoda - Bentley - Bugatti - Lamborghini - Porsche - VW Audi Forum -


- www.vwaudiforum.co.uk - www.vwaudiforum.co.uk -