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  1. VW Gold 1.6 TDI Stop/Start issue - Power consumption is high 
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    Hi guys,

    I have just bought a 2014 VW Golf 1.6 TDI Tech Bluemotion (auto DSG) and since buying the stop start has never engaged. I have taken it on several long runs (120 miles+) as I understand sometimes the unit needs warming up.

    I get the error message attached and an A with a strike through appear in the dash.

    I have access to a friends VCDS which I have used and only one error has appeared which despite clearing, comes back. I have also attached that error to this post. It states

    "no control unit for battery monitoring - No Communication"


    Lastly I have also attached a picture of the battery and using my friends VCDS he added the serial number to the ECU (previously it was set to 1111111111111111)

    It really is a handy feature to have stop start and I would love for it to work. Help is much apreciated
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  2. Re: VW Gold 1.6 TDI Stop/Start issue - Power consumption is high 
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    The battery is the correct Pr-J2D spec for cars with the “Pr-7L6 Start/stop system with brake energy recovery” that your car (reg *13 *HL) was built with.

    The CAN BUS is saying it cannot communicate with the battery controller so is this unit coming up in the auto scan list because it appears your car does not have a battery monitoring unit?

    If it does not come up in the auto scan list as being unregistered, go into the CAN BUS controller installation list and un-tick the battery controller, I think that is only for Pr-0K3 PHEV models
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  3. Re: VW Gold 1.6 TDI Stop/Start issue - Power consumption is high 
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    Thanks for your reply. I will get another scan done and look out in the auto scan list. Can you show me what a battery monitoring unit looks like by any chance?

    Am i right in thinking that the battery monitoring unit is a default feature in these cars? So am i not better off installing on? Sorry if that sounds a silly question, i have literally no idea when it comes to start/stop
     
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    Just been googling around and it appears this is the battery control monitor unit

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    If this is the case then I already physically have this on my car connected to the negative terminal. My mechanic removed the contact and cleaned it too, with no joy
     
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    Found it, my full system is stripped down at the moment so I have been working from an iPad which is not easy. ETKA shows that your car had controller 5Q0 915 181 D which went to E, then G and now I THINK it is the J revision which is £112.37 and yes, it is the earth lead, cleaning it will not help......
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  6. Re: VW Gold 1.6 TDI Stop/Start issue - Power consumption is high 
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    I have found the part online for a much cheaper price of £12 however it is revision C. Do you think that would cause a problem?
     
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    hi guys

    just bit of an update.i replaced the battery controller with the following part: 5Q0 915 181

    and still no joy. same error coming up. I have added a few screenshots of the vcds which show which modules are installed if thats any help to anyone.

    much appreciated
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  8. Re: VW Gold 1.6 TDI Stop/Start issue - Power consumption is high 
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    Can you post a print out of a full vehicle Auto Scan in Auto detect mode? Install a generic/text printer on your system and then print to this using the print function on the lower left of the auto scan page, you can then post this as a Text document. the generic print page will need the "print to file" box ticking. You do realise that cable you have fitted has been revised a number of times due to being a common failure, it doesn't explain though why the controller is not shown on the installed page. Also, go into the CAN BUS section and look at the installation list to see if the controllers box is ticked.
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  9. Re: VW Gold 1.6 TDI Stop/Start issue - Power consumption is high 
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    Hi

    Apologies for the delay. You can find the latest scan attached. Also looking in the installation list in the CAN BUS controller there doesnt seem to be anything listed under battery controller or similar. So there is nothing to check/uncheck. Any ideas on that?







    Sunday,31,December,2017,13:12:23:04550
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 15.7.0.2
    Data version: 20150820
    Ross-Tech: Home




    VIN: WVWZZZAUZEP036961 License Plate: N13NHL
    Mileage: 133210km-82772mi Repair Order: v2




    Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F


    VIN: WVWZZZAUZEP036961 Mileage: 133210km-82772miles


    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CLHA) Labels: 04L-907-309-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 04L 906 021 N HW: 04L 907 309 B
    Component: R4 1,6L EDC H22 5518
    Revision: 84H22---
    Coding: 01250032036505092000
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00075
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021N 002009
    ROD: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021N_VW37.rod
    VCID: 3076017B3A23AA02AF80C65-8064


    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0CW-927-769.clb
    Part No SW: 0CW 300 044 S HW: 0AM 927 769 G
    Component: GSG DQ200-MQB H43 4530
    Revision: 00043014 Serial number: CU501308177768
    Coding: 0014
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
    ROD: EV_TCMDQ200021_AU37.rod
    VCID: 4886499BA2B302C297B0CE5-801C


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AB HW: 5Q0 907 379 H
    Component: ESC H31 0557
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 6247300000030F
    Coding: 01FA8AA1242309720380060641C42580512490C06082A4F3F8 42F07AC102
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
    ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_VW37.rod
    VCID: 7CEEE54BA6EB9E6243B8825-8028


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels: 5G0-907-426.clb
    Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 M HW: 5G0 907 426 M
    Component: AC Manuell H01 0705
    Revision: 00001K06
    Coding: 00120104202100001000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
    ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_SE37.rod
    VCID: 3578306FC5418F2AFC769F9-8060


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 S HW: 5Q0 937 084 S
    Component: BCM MQBAB M H14 0112
    Serial number: 00011324802553
    Coding: 03001842C24102730BA44080B1040328100000000000000000 0000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 011001
    ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_AU37.rod
    VCID: 4886499BA2B302C297B0CE5-801C


    Slave 1:
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A HW: 5G2 955 119 A Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
    Component: WWS 130816 042 0551
    Serial number: 130902152914
    Coding: 0E4DDD


    Slave 2:
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 559 HW: 5Q0 955 559 Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
    Component: RLS 024 0042
    Serial number: Y13M09D04H18M56S11S1
    Coding: 00A8DD


    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172 HW: 5Q0 951 172
    Component: Sensor, DWA 005 0315
    Serial number: 000000000ZY1321110ET


    Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 HW: 5Q0 951 605
    Component: Sirene, DWA 004 0311
    Serial number: 00000000000057572767


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels: 5Q0-919-298.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 919 298 A HW: 5Q0 919 298
    Component: PARKHILFE PLA 011 0029
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 61131325500390
    Coding: 0131061051
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000 003014
    ROD: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000_VW37.rod
    VCID: 3D68284FFD71576A3406779-8068


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428) Labels: 5Q0-907-572.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 A HW: 5Q0 907 572 A
    Component: ACC Bosch MQB H04 0150
    Serial number: 03091376510155
    Coding: 001C1300FE0339
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001013
    ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_AU37.rod
    VCID: 3578306FC5418F2AFC769F9-8060


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AA HW: 5Q0 959 655 AA
    Component: AirbagVW20 014 0386
    Serial number: 003MLR006LFT
    Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00058
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
    ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_AU37.rod
    VCID: 7F141247B7FD857A669AAD1-802A


    Seat belt tensioner; left:
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B HW: 5G0 980 945 B
    Component: BeltPretRevFL H35 0340
    Serial number: 34169677B09091350683
    Coding: 333135


    Seat belt tensioner; right:
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B HW: 5G0 980 946 B
    Component: BeltPretRevFR H35 0340
    Serial number: 34169676B09091371295
    Coding: 333135


    Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 002 608 13
    Component: SideSensor_Df 001 0887
    Serial number: 3576700000068520BD0U
    Coding: 2D2D2D


    Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side:
    Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 002 608 13
    Component: SideSensor_Pf 001 0887
    Serial number: 3586700000072854AD0Z
    Coding: 2D2D2D


    Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side:
    Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 209 13
    Component: SideSensor_Dr 001 6149
    Serial number: 3516502BF1088B11C3CJ
    Coding: 2D2D2D


    Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side:
    Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 209 13
    Component: SideSensor_Pr 001 6149
    Serial number: 3526502AB1088B1270D9
    Coding: 2D2D2D


    Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:
    Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 309 13
    Component: FrontSensor_D 001 6149
    Serial number: 3556502C11088B15510-
    Coding: 2D2D2D


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AG HW: 5Q0 953 549 A
    Component: Lenks. Modul 007 0070
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 11091304401604
    Coding: 0C00
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
    ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_SE37.rod
    VCID: 7BECE657A3E5995A4AB2991-802E


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
    Part No SW: 5G0 920 961 A HW: 5G0 920 961 A
    Component: KOMBI 252 2210
    Coding: 27A51A082790260001882A01040000
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008031
    ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_AU37.rod
    VCID: 2846E91B02F3E2C277F06E5-807C


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 M HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
    Component: GW MQB High 212 2147
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 07091310800134
    Coding: 030100040B087300EF00005C1C0F0001000100000000000000 0000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 009011
    ROD: EV_GatewConti.rod
    VCID: 3B6C2657E365595A0A32591-806E


    Alternator:


    Multifunction unit control module:
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 K HW: 5G0 959 442 K
    Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H14 0035
    Serial number: 27130001317190023341
    Coding: 2CFFFF


    1 Fault Found:
    197175 - Control unit for battery monitoring
    U1050 00 [009] - No Communication
    Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 3
    Reset counter: 205
    Mileage: 133210 km
    Date: 2017.12.31
    Time: 13:07:14




    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q4 959 393 HW: 5Q4 959 393
    Component: TSG FS 007 0006
    Serial number: 0000071990048
    Coding: 003002208001028000001000
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
    ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT_AU37.rod
    VCID: 55B890EF6501AF2A1C367F9-8000


    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 A HW: 5Q4 959 812 A
    Component: Fond FHSG DRV 007 0002
    Serial number: 00000000000002635810
    Coding: 0D0000


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L HW: 5Q0 909 144 M
    Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 127 1021
    Coding: 83
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
    ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod
    VCID: 3D68284FFD71576A3406779-8068


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592 HW: 5Q4 959 592
    Component: TSG BFS 007 0006
    Serial number: 0000072678167
    Coding: 003000208E01028000801000
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
    ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT_AU37.rod
    VCID: 011094BFC109F38A106EDB9-8054


    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 A HW: 5Q4 959 811 A
    Component: Fond FHSG PSG 007 0002
    Serial number: 00000000000002564571
    Coding: 050000


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: None
    Part No SW: 5G0 035 820 A HW: 5G0 035 820 A
    Component: MU-S-D-ER 040 0421
    Serial number: V5C01209131693
    Coding: 02730000FF00000021111201002800001F0100060100010001
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023
    ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
    ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_SK37.rod
    VCID: 1F54F2C757BD257A065A8D1-804A


    Media Player Position 1:
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 HW: 5G0 919 605
    Component: ABT_Std_Radio H50 0022
    Serial number: VWZ8Z9NJ701CV2


    No fault code found.


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    I will have a look at the wiring diagram tomorrow at work, I have not had chance to get my hands on an MQB vehicle since you started this thread.
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