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Hi guys, got in my golf last night and tried to start it up only to find out the whole instrument cluster is dead, not showing mileage or anything. Tried to start it up and it starts but then cuts out about a second later.
Car was completely fine and running well previously. Any ideas what I should be looking at? It was getting quite cold last night with some frost on the bonnet so I’m wondering if it’s related to the cold/damp?
Thanks
Is anything working on the dash pre ignition on? The Golf 5 is becoming extremely prone to sudden dash failure, we are seeing a lot of 10 to 12 year old dash units suddenly fail right across the VAG range.
Hi Crasher, the dash is completely dead 99% of the time. I did disconnect the battery for a while and then try again and the red display lit up for a few seconds when I opened the car door but then I went to turn on the ignition and the whole thing went off again. Now if i come back to the car it’s just completely off. Other electrics appear to be ok (radio/ heat blowers etc)
I would start with a full vehicle code scan using VCDS and with the battery on charge whilst doing the scan.
So this is what I got from the scan, I'm starting to think maybe the instrument cluster itself is the issue.
Code:01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 PP HW: 03G 906 021 AN
Component: R4 2,0L EDC 000SG 4661
Revision: --H08--- Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NB8O2
Coding: 0000072
Shop #: WSC 00682 210 71757
VCID: 7CF679543F3F83664F-8028
4 Faults Found
000564 - Boost Pressure Regulation
P0234 - 000 - Limit Exceeded (Overboost Condition) - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 178058 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 20:49:24
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2709 /min
Speed: 140.0 km/h
Load: 91.0 %
Voltage: 14.29 V
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Absolute Pres.: 2315.4 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 2590.8 mbar
005712 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1650 - 000 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 20
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 10.72 V
Bin. Bits: 00000100
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Torque: 351.4 Nm
053273 - Control Module for Instrument Cluster
U1019 - 000 - Missing Signal for Oil Level/Temperature
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.40 V
Bin. Bits: 00000100
Bin. Bits: 00000000
(no units): 0.0
005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 - 000 - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11110000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1323 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.10 V
Bin. Bits: 00000100
Bin. Bits: 11000000
(no units): 33.0
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H35 0104
Revision: 00H35001
Coding: 1362401A094A0022C833020C904100823000
Shop #: WSC 01316 785 00200
VCID: 74E65174D76FCB2607-8020
4 Faults Found
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 158
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 12288
Count: 8208
Count: 37632
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 0
03391 - Coding Not Possible
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 158
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Count: 2
Count: 0
Count: 12288
Count: 8254
Count: 41728
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 0
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 158
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Count: 2
Count: 0
Count: 12288
Count: 8211
Count: 41728
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 0
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 158
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Count: 2
Count: 0
Count: 12288
Count: 8224
Count: 41728
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 0
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HN HW: 1K0 820 047 HN
Component: Climatic PQ35 142 1111
Revision: 00142031 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 77FC66780619A03E22-8022
2 Faults Found
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: None
Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000008480911
Coding: E5898F2700041500471400001400000000087F075C000100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 3364926852E18C1EDE-8066
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E
Component: Wischer 300508 021 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 00000
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH
Component: RLS 130608 054 0402
Coding: 00209069
Shop #: WSC 00000
1 Fault Found
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 158
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 10.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
Revision: 05020000 Serial number: 0038PD22289T
Coding: 0013112
Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
VCID: 3D70B45064A54A6E38-8068
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME2570433B6
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME2D22715DH
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME694D1D17V
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME737C1D15R
2 Faults Found
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent - MIL ON
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CA HW: 1K0 953 549 CA
Component: J0527 051 0101
Coding: 0000012
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 73E452681261CC1E1E-8026
5 Faults Found
00576 - Terminal 15
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00885 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal 50
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
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Address 17: Instruments
Cannot be reached
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H16 0202
Revision: H16 Serial number: 2700K085230C5F
Coding: E9801F060002020001
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3560AC705C95922EF0-8060
4 Faults Found
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 158
Mileage: 141856 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 13:45:58
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 158
Time Indication: 0
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 158
Time Indication: 0
00381 - Databus Instrument Cluster
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 23
Reset counter: 158
Time Indication: 0
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Address 25: Immobilizer
Cannot be reached
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1208
Coding: 0000564
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 387EA5444B876F46EB-806C
1 Fault Found
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: None
Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69 2301
Revision: 00H15000
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 2A5A8F0C852BCDD66D-807E
3 Faults Found
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 158
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:54
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.00 V
DD
Temperature: 7.0°C
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Count: 0
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Battery Volts: 12.3 V
PD
Temperature: 7.0°C
Count: 2
Steering Angle: 0.00°
Count: 0
SteerAng n.Init
00750 - Warning Lamp
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 158
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.25 V
DD
Temperature: 7.0°C
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Count: 0
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: None
Part No: 1K0 959 433 AJ
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 01C802087F2D8405485AC69010CC
Shop #: WSC 00682 210 88562
VCID: 78FE65440B07AF462B-802C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H08 9001
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
Component: Neigungssensor 003 0203
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
Component: Innenraumueberw.003 0203
1 Fault Found
01038 - Central Locking Thermal Protection
000 - - - Intermittent
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1208
Coding: 0000564
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3978A040708D764E14-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached
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Oh my that’s a lot of malfunctions being read!
I was going to suggest that the ignition switch might be to blame but sounds like it was working as you managed to start it (all but briefly)....
I suggest plugging each fault code you have into the Ross tech fault code wiki...this should help you understand what each code means and possible solutions.
The problem lies into which one is the main cause.
I would take Crashers advice regarding the malfunctioning instrument cluster...
Though replacing this might be expensive??...it would have to be recoded to the car....correct mileage entered...keys paired....etc
It’s very frustrating when something was working then suddenly fails...
Fingers crossed you can get this sorted.
Not sure I’ve been much help but I’m sure there are others out there they may have experienced something similar.
Thanks for your input, I’ll give that a try. I did find a few company’s that say they can repair the original instrument cluster if it is that that’s causing the problem so I can keep the original one without the hassle of recoding it etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by willdudeuk
I just need to try and figure out if that is the issue first.
Luckily it’s not the only car I have access to so I can manage without it whilst I try and work it out but I do really like my golf very clean car for it’s age and I guess I can't complain having owned it for 6 years this is the first major issue it’s had.
Start with a new ignition switch, this is clearly faulty and will cause all sorts of problems.
Well I switched the ignition switch from our Jetta today to test it and it started straight up with all lights back on so I guess that’s fixed it! Just need to get a new one for it now. Thanks for the help guys :)