Audi A6 2.0TDi remap!

[jalal90]

Hi guys,

I'm looking to get my A6 remapped. I just bought it yesterday its a an 07 with 24k on the clock, however i am disappointed by the lack of acceleration but impressed with the economy. It has 12 months warranty as i purchased direct from Audi. I want to know if they will find out about my remap even if i get a switchable one? So i can switch back to original/economy mode when it goes in for any work....

Also can someone suggest a company to use? I looked at Revo (£500), Chippeduk (£350)... Any others?? Both offer about 175-180hp which is ideal. I am looking for any respectable company that offers switchable remaps in london...

Thanks..

[jalal90]

The thing i am leaning towards is the chipped uk ST3 -

http://www.chippeduk.com/products/ST3/ST3_Intelligent_Self_Tuning_System.html

It's 400 pounds and i can set it between all 3 of the settings i want. Can anyone tell me where i could find the same system but for less? If not i will get one of these!

[MFGF]

Hi,

There's also the STS (Self Tuning System) from Shark Performance - http://www.sharkperformance.co.uk/sts.asp

Ben from Shark (shark_90) is often on here and can tell you all about it if you have questions.

Cheers!

MF.

[martin73]

Other option would be a tuning box rather than a remap that way you could completely remove it before it goes back to Audi for anything.

The maps are ment to be fairly undetectable by diagnostic tools etc.

[jalal90]

Okay well i did some other inquiring.

Celtic tuning offer a switchable remap device for £465 including the economy map. They are saying they can achieve 201bhp and 311lbft torque which sounds very impressive. They are a very respectable company as well. I know of people who have done their diesel civics there and been very happy. The device also comes with a flash counter reset so the dealer would never know.

Paramount Performance offered me a tuning box for £370 and ChippedUK offered me the switchable remap ST3 device for £360. Both offering 180bhp and 315lbft torque. Shark tuning offered a switchable remap device for £450 offering the same performance.

Bassically its an extra £100 for another 20bhp! I thought that this might be pushing the engine but as i said they are a respectable company and they stated that this is withing the safe limits of the engine. The car will never be thrashed around anyway. As both my parents will be the main drivers and neither of them drive fast so when they have the car it will be set to economy mode and sometimes for a more spirited drive i will switch to the power map. Thats why i think the car will be safe.

However i want to know if a tuning box is less detectable for a dealer then a switchable map device? However it wont offer an economy mode :-/

I think the celtic one is very appealing, anyone had it done? However if chippedUK can offer a bit more power i would go for them on price!

[MFGF]

Hi,

I think the detectability of a switchable map depends on which ECU the car has. Some of the later ECUs have high encryption, which as yet has not been cracked by the tuning companies. If I understand correctly, they work around this by writing their standard and performance maps to a completely different area of memory, meaning that a car that has been returned to a "standard" map would potentially return a non-standard checksum if interrogated by the dealer.

I'm sure some of the tuners on the forum will be along to explain properly (and correct my incoherent ramblings if I'm off-track here).

Cheers!

MF.

[jalal90]

So in other words a tuning box would be less detectable if what you're saying is true?

[shark_90]

Economy/fast road/race = all a load of tosh. A diesel car will be most economical when it's tuned to deliver it's power in the best way. The most efficient way to drive a car is to get up to speed as quickly as possible (within reason) and then cruise at part throttle. And so a powerful diesel is a more economical diesel. Please don't get drawn in by the marketing tricks ;)

On your A6 our STS can put the ECU back to standard programming and reset the flash counter, which makes it just as it was before the remap was ever put on. However you must tell your insurance company about the map, please do remember that.

One other piece of advice, as I see you're looking for the "same system but for less" - the actual flashing system may be the came (i.e. ours is the same as Chipped UK's system, and Celtic Tuning's system etc) but the maps are NOT the same. Remember - you are buying a service, and NOT a product :)

sooty2k has just had his 2.0TDI 140PS remapped by us, here are his thoughts: http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=93475

Do your research and make your own decision - but please don't be too obsessed with price. Sometimes you really do get what you pay for.

[sr-performance]

Your other option is to just have it remapped... cheaper too...:)

[mgcgill]

I'm also looking to get a re-map on a 2.0 Tdi.

Anyone who's had this done care to comment. I think it's generally agreed the 2.0 has poor 1st gear acceleration. Can anyone comment on if this is improved with a re-map.

Lets not kid ourself, the main reason we all go for a re-map is power. Improved MPG etc....is just a by-product. :D

M (Glasgow)

[sr-performance]

Yes mate your 1st gear etc will be transformed...:beerchug:

[Tim B]

:confused:I have a question, if you can get better performance and economy from a remap or tuning box why are the cars not set up to those specs in the first place? Is there a down side to getting it done.

[hughjass]

:confused:I have a question, if you can get better performance and economy from a remap or tuning box why are the cars not set up to those specs in the first place? Is there a down side to getting it done.

^^^
I believe its emissions at certain revs to save the planet.

I see no downside imho, just had my a6c5 2.7t stage1 and its transformed.

The auto box is very fast changing now and not as "fluffy smooth" as standard which is what i wanted.

well worth it ;-)

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[MarkTM]

I'm also looking to get a re-map on a 2.0 Tdi.

Anyone who's had this done care to comment. I think it's generally agreed the 2.0 has poor 1st gear acceleration. Can anyone comment on if this is improved with a re-map.

Lets not kid ourself, the main reason we all go for a re-map is power. Improved MPG etc....is just a by-product. :D

M (Glasgow)

Nope, I went for an Alientech remap for economy on my 3.0 Q, I do notice better performance but the 800 mile (no stopping for either 400 mile journey) return trip to Edinburgh after remap saw me return circa 55MPG and 950 miles on a tank, refilled and it took 79l which meant a real 53.5MPG (Audi's quoted extra urban for mine is 46.3). The best I'd had prior to remap was 50MPG on a similar run/conditions/temp.

Can I suggest before a remap that you ensure all maintenance items such as air/fuel/oil filters & coolant are as close to 100% as possible in addition to having your fuel system carboncleaned & injectors calibrated. My logic is a 20% increase on 98% efficiency is better than a 20% increase on 80% efficiency. I personally always ensure my cars are running at their best before any performance enhancements...it also (I believe) lowers the likelihood of anything breaking ;)

[toofunkyhouse]

Im going for a Revo in the next few months, should take my 2.0 170 up to about 208bhp.... should be nice :)

[Aleung2]

Im going for a Revo in the next few months, should take my 2.0 170 up to about 208bhp.... should be nice :)

I believe you have the same engine as I, 2.0 tdi cr170. Please keep us updated on yours as I'm very interested in Revo's map.

[JimC64]

The 2.0 tdi 140 bhp is downright dangerous in std form when taking off with no power unless you really work the revs.

I had mine remapped ( preferred over tuning box ) and taken to 176bhp....much much smoother and still very economical.

I had mine done at Audi and paid through the nose as my car was new to retain the warranty, but......had my Ford Moneo ST Tdci 155 taken to 195 by Seditas of Ayr and WOW......what a difference!!
They actually remap for a lot of dealers in that area.....I'd recomend them for anyone in the vicinity to check out.

[AGW82]

These guys are worth a look Diesel Tuning UK LTD | Improved Diesel Performance And Economy | Digital Diesel Tuning Box (http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/)

Andy the MD is really knowledgeable and very helpful.

[neil s]

The 2.0 tdi 140 bhp is downright dangerous in std form when taking off with no power unless you really work the revs.

Why is the standard 140bhp 'downright dangerous'? I can't think there's ever been an occasion in the 3 or so years I've had my car that I've been in a situation that desperately called for more power.

And surely the acceleration or power/weight ratio of the car must be as good as half the cars on the road? If that's the case then you'd have to say that the majority of cars out there are dangerous.

Neil.

[Akash]

neil - probably the turbo lag? I remember in my 2.0 it was a pain at the best of times to get off from stationary for the first few seconds before it "caught up"

I went for the Shark box a few years ago for the 2.7, Not applied currently but when it was, it was a noticeable difference. I got scared with all the news about the gearbox being a weakling that I did not bother re-applying it but might ask CK how much the insurance would go up if I did want it back on

Good thing with Shark is you can buy a box through them to do it yourself once they send the map back to you. You can then revert back to stock map if you're under warranty and book the car in and then flip it back to performance. It also has a "deadlock" map to completely lock the car down...doesnt do anything even with the key inserted. Good if the car is parked up and you go on hols.

[1966baz]

This has been a good read thanks. One thing that springs to mind if I had a remap on my 2008 A6 2.0tdi manual gearbox is would the clutch take the extra power ok as I have heard about the clutches not being great. Cheers Nick.

[JimC64]

Baz - Re the clutch........

I guess its like anything else, if you're going to use ALL that extra power ALL the time, drove it like you stole it kinda, I guess it won't last long.

I had mine remapped almost from new, the car probably only had maybe 3000 miles on her, she's now at 106k on the original clutch with no issues in that dept. I've had my fair share of using the extra power, but also easy motorway miles and cruising.....all good as far as I'm concerned

[humphrey999]

I remapped my PD at 54000 and at 104000, the clutch is still original. It has phases when it devices to slip wildly but the next time I get in it's fine.

[1966baz]

OK, Thanks for the replies. I'll definitely consider getting a remap. Cheers Nick.

[Rabg]

I also have a 2.0 tdi a6, I'm near Glasgow and after a remap, can anyone recommend me a good place to go, and what price to expect?

Ive tried to read the the thread but I'm having trouble with the first two pages loading, very strange. Thanks

[TH Performance]

Click on the agents link here, you'll
find the agents are vag specialists. :-)

Home (www.pendleperformance.com)

[Andrew Turner]

I got my tdi 140 remapped by Expert Tuning and it has made a massive difference to acceleration and economy, saw an indicated 67mpg coming back from North Wales recently :) Get it done, you won't regret it!

[TH Performance]

In fact, I'm so sure you'll be blown away that we'll over you a full refund if you're not happy with it.

[JoeAudi16]

I have got A6 c6 2006 2.0 tdi BRE 140bhp automatic and it used to be very lazy car and many times left me in awkward situation on the roundabouts as the acceleration was very slow. Fuel consumption wasn't great neither.
I recently had it remaped to 175bhp and blanked egr system (right from the exhaust manifold, spent gases doesn't even enter the cooler) and the difference is massive. Car pulls like mad and fuel consumption is around 60mpg on motorway and around 47mpg combined (steady driving obviously). I daid £10 for MMPS scanner (read/write) and £40 for remapping file service. Basically I scanned my ecu, sent the file to this remapping company. They remapped it to 175bhp, deleted the egr parameters (there is no engine management light on and car doesn't go to the limp mode) and sent the file back to me. I then rewritten it onto my ecu and job done. Yes Audi garage would find out, but I have no intention to take my car there anyway.

[ExpertTuning]

Hi

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there is no way to hide the fact a remap has been performed by putting the original software back on the ECU. So a switchable remap product of any kind isn't going to help. I do a lot of work for a VAG dealer, so this information is thoroughly checked out.

We are a long-established site sponsor. As your A6 is a 2007 model I can offer you our remap through the OBD port for £200 because you're a VW Audi Forum member. Give me a call if you'd like to talk it through.

Cheers

Paul Dunford
Expert Tuning

01883 341774
07525 479932

[ExpertTuning]

Ooops. I really must check the date of the original post. Only 5 years too late with the reply but perhaps the info might be useful to someone anyway!

Cheers.

[markaz]

Paul is it true Quantum were ex Superchips people?

Thanks

Mark.

[ExpertTuning]

Hi Mark.

Yes - a couple of the founders have a Superchips history.

Cheers

Paul

[markaz]

Thanks Paul - been talking to a Quantum dealer closer to me and that's what he said. Sorry but you're too far away!

Cheers

Mark.

[Dino07]

Not previously had it done on an Audi myself but i had my BMW 320D remapped by a company called Motech in Northampton after high recommendations and it made quite the difference. I only went for a medium map, had the DPF removed at the same time and if i remember right, the guy that modifies the maps works for a pretty high end tuning company.

The guy who tuned mine owned an A5 at the time so he would know his Audi's one would think.

[1966baz]

Hi everyone, still haven't got mine done, (2008 2.0 tdi se). Question is can anyone recommend a tuning company in the Gloucester area. Cheers.

[a6c72011]

Recently bought myself a 2011 A6 c7 2.0 tdi. I am definitely going too get a remap, most likely with Celtic as they do the driveway remaps.

But I wanted too know if anyone can recommend any diesel tuners/specialist in the northwest?

Want a few bits doing, induction, exhaust etc.

Actually, is an induction kit/air filter upgrade even worth it on a diesel?

Sean.

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