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alibaly
11-05-2007, 12:00 PM
Forum is all new to me so forgive me if this is too long winded but I think it will be of interest.
I purchased my Golf PLus 1.9TDI from Arnold Clark in Stirling last November with 14000 miles on the clock and thought it was a 1.9TDI 90BHP model as advised by the dealer. This was fine by me as I wanted an economical car with good fuel consumption. I insured it with the RAC after consulting confused . com for advice. they confirmed that my car was a 90BHP model ( as listed on their computer). Fine so far till I read my car manual and found a label in the service book that says that in fact I have a 77KW TDI or 105BHP. I phoned the local VW dealer to check and they confirmed that I do have a 105BHP engine. I have had to tell my insurance company and pay an increased premium. Not really a problem but how many other owners are running about with, as they think a 90BHP engine and in fact they have a 105? This would invalidate their policy in the event of a claim would it not? any comments?

The car is great by the way and is going for its first service next week, at 17600 miles and a year and three months old. Just hope it is not too expensive.

Eshrules
11-05-2007, 12:18 PM
Forum is all new to me so forgive me if this is too long winded but I think it will be of interest.
I purchased my Golf PLus 1.9TDI from Arnold Clark in Stirling last November with 14000 miles on the clock and thought it was a 1.9TDI 90BHP model as advised by the dealer. This was fine by me as I wanted an economical car with good fuel consumption. I insured it with the RAC after consulting confused . com for advice. they confirmed that my car was a 90BHP model ( as listed on their computer). Fine so far till I read my car manual and found a label in the service book that says that in fact I have a 77KW TDI or 105BHP. I phoned the local VW dealer to check and they confirmed that I do have a 105BHP engine. I have had to tell my insurance company and pay an increased premium. Not really a problem but how many other owners are running about with, as they think a 90BHP engine and in fact they have a 105? This would invalidate their policy in the event of a claim would it not? any comments?

The car is great by the way and is going for its first service next week, at 17600 miles and a year and three months old. Just hope it is not too expensive.

erm... can i just clarify one detail? there is no 105bhp tdi?

bhp as follows : 90, 115, 130, 150

alibaly
11-05-2007, 12:24 PM
Thanks for the reply but what is a 77KW TDI I thought it was 105BHP. should it be 115?:confused:

RickT
11-05-2007, 11:05 PM
Hi,

just to confirm... 77KW is 103.25868311653481 BHP to be exact..

Just to let you all know that in the golf plus they have tunned the engines different.. reduced power not to clash with some of the cars in the golf range.. (all marketing)

Theres a few models to chose from - the format below is not the best... but im sure you will be able to see all the models from the data below..





Basic
Recommended
Retail £
Maximum VED band*
CO2 emission, g/km
Output, PS
VAT £
Total
Recommended
Retail £
Manufacturer’s
Recommended
‘On the road’
Retail £*

Model prices.

5 Door Hatchback Range.


Luna

Luna 1.4 ltr 5 speed manual 80 172 E 10,610.21 1,856.79 12,467.00 13,162.00


Luna FSI 1.6 ltr 6 speed manual 115 171 E 12,325.11 2,156.89 14,482.00 15,177.00


Luna FSI 1.6 ltr 6 speed auto 115 191 F 13,431.49 2,350.51 15,782.00 16,517.00


Luna TDI 1.9 ltr 5 speed manual 90 145 C 12,227.23 2,139.77 14,367.00 15,012.00


Luna TDI 1.9 ltr 5 speed manual 105 143 C 13,091.06 2,290.94 15,382.00 16,027.00


SE

SE FSI 1.6 ltr 6 speed manual 115 171 E 13,044.26 2,282.74 15,327.00 16,022.00


SE FSI 1.6 ltr 6 speed auto 115 191 F 14,150.64 2,476.36 16,627.00 17,362.00


SE TDI 1.9 ltr 5 speed manual 105 143 C 13,814.47 2,417.53 16,232.00 16,877.00


SE TDI 1.9 ltr 6 speed auto DSG 105 159 D 15,057.02 2,634.98 17,692.00 18,362.00



Sport
Sport TSI 1.4 ltr 6 speed manual 140 172 E 14,252.77 2,494.23 16,747.00 17,442.00

Sport TSI 1.4 ltr 6 speed auto DSG 140 172 E 15,401.70 2,695.30 18,097.00 18,792.00


Sport TDI 2.0 ltr 6 speed manual 140 153 D 15,393.19 2,693.81 18,087.00 18,757.00


Sport TDI 2.0 ltr 6 speed auto DSG 140 164 D 16,520.85 2,891.15 19,412.00 20,082.00



A little bit of datas below for alibaly to confirm the 90BHP against the 105BHP..




Pferdestärken*90Engine cubic capacity1900Fuel Consumption Urban40.4mpg - 7.0l/100km Extra-urban60.1mpg - 4.7l/100km Combined51.4mpg - 5.5l/100kmEngine emissions145g/kmEngine noise levels73.0dBEngine maximum Speed**107mph - 173km/hEngine acceleration 0-62mph13.5secsMaximum output PS90 at RPM4000Maximum torque155 lbs.ft / 210 Nm at RPM1800Insurance group rating5


&


Pferdestärken*105Engine cubic capacity1900Fuel Consumption Urban40.9mpg - 6.9l/100km Extra-urban61.4mpg - 4.6l/100km Combined52.3mpg - 5.4l/100kmEngine emissions143g/kmEngine noise levels72.0dBEngine maximum Speed**114mph - 183km/hEngine acceleration 0-62mph11.9secsMaximum output PS105 at RPM4000Maximum torque184 lbs.ft / 250 Nm at RPM1900Insurance group rating7


Cheers

RickT

stuart
12-05-2007, 06:50 AM
Agree with Rick, VW's UK website shows a 105ps Golf Plus:)

RickT
12-05-2007, 10:06 AM
it sure does..

RickT

Eshrules
12-05-2007, 10:17 AM
sorry.... my mistake :o i assumed he meant a mk4, just read he stated it was a golf PLUS d'oh

alibaly
14-05-2007, 10:08 AM
Thanks all, happier now. My fuel consumption works out at 41.94 on average and the best I ever got was 46.18 on holiday last month in the lake district. is this the best I can expect from a 1.9 tdi?, a bit disapointed if I am honest.

Eshrules
14-05-2007, 10:16 AM
Thanks all, happier now. My fuel consumption works out at 41.94 on average and the best I ever got was 46.18 on holiday last month in the lake district. is this the best I can expect from a 1.9 tdi?, a bit disapointed if I am honest.

erm.... i assume the 42mpg is around town? the 46 mpg sounds low, but it depends how you drive it. to get anything near to 50mpg,you need to keep as close to 65/70 as possible really, conserve the gas when you're going downhill, try to see further in front to slow your engine rather than braking and gassing all the time, that helps too.

i find if you sit behind a caravan driver for a good hour, your MPG shoots up LOL

laughing aside, i get around 35mpg around town in mine and around 50mpg on the m.way.

although yours is a mk5, so it should be slightly better?

how many miles was the trip you managed to average 46mpg?

alibaly
14-05-2007, 06:57 PM
42mpg is average over 3000 miles since nov06 when I bought the car. I do a lot of very short journeys with a cold engine as my wife is waiting for a new knee so perhaps low average mostly due to that. the 46 mpg was a mixture of two 4 hour motorway runs at on or about 80mph and relaxed local runs on holiday at up to 55 or so. I find though that I have to change down into 4th much under 50mph and in a lot of urban situations I am never in 5th at all.

I had a 306turbo diesel for years and it gave similar performance with much better fuel consumption but was lower geared.


never mind I still have a smile on my face when I drive my car. Much as I had in 1967 with my first beetle:D