1.9 TDI PD 150 Oils

[mikebeardmore]

As above folks, what oils do people recommend? Also how easy a DIY job is this, is it just a case of removing the sump tray and drain plug, then changing filter? How easily accessable are all these? Thanks in advance!!

Mike

[tornadored7]

As above folks, what oils do people recommend? Also how easy a DIY job is this, is it just a case of removing the sump tray and drain plug, then changing filter? How easily accessable are all these? Thanks in advance!!

Mike

Mike,

1) Regular oil changes with high quality oil

Based on Crasher's considerable experience with ARL engine issues, it is very highly recommended read essential], that PD 150 ARL engines have regular oil changes, with high quality PD compatible oil.

I would suggest (but not speaking from personal experience), that the VW 507.00 Quantum Longlife 3 5W30 oil (Gold plastic can), would be a suitable oil to use.

However, instead of abiding by the QG1 Longlife service regime, use this oil on a Time and Distance regime. That is the oil should be changed at either;


A maximum distance of 10,000 miles
A maximum elapsed time of 12 months


2) Changing oil

There are two schools of thought on changing oil;

Sucking the oil out of the engine, e.g. from the dipstick tube
Draining oil from the bottom of the engine, using the oil sump


For someone with little mechanical experience, or who wishes to keep things as simple/clean as possible the former method is preferable (sucking out the old oil).

2.1) Using a suction pump

2.1.1) Advantages

No need to;
crawl underneath the car
raise the front of the car
remove engine undertray/skid plate
undo sump plug
risk cross threading/damaging the sump plug
risk spilling oil on the drive/ground
buy a variety of expensive tools

Hence quite an easy DIY job that doesn't require a great deal of experience, but well worth doing regularly for ARL engine longevity.


2.1.2) Tools and Parts required:


A suction pump/oil extractor such as the; Pela 6000 (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/range/guid/234906BB-6E8E-4A19-9D13-6107D5B9C54D), or Laser suction pump (http://www.screwfix.com/prods/21663/Van-Car-Accessories/Mechanics-Tools/Laser-Fluid-Extractor) available from Machine Mart / Screwfix respectively
Oil Filter Cup Wrench 76mm (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_19 9193_langId_-1_categoryId_165469) available from Halfords

3/8" drive ratchet
3/8" drive torque wrench capable of 25Nm (?)

Oil filter and O rings: VW Part number 074.115.562 (available from VW/Audi/Skoda/SEAT dealers)
VW 507.00 Oil: e.g. Quantum Longlife 3 5W30 oil [VW Part number G.052.195.M4] (available from VW/Audi/Skoda/SEAT dealers)


2.1.3) Procedure

The procedure for a suction pump oil change on a Seat MK4 Ibiza is illustrated in the link below. Don't worry, the procedure is almost identical on a G4 PD 150.

Seat Ibiza MK4 TDI oil and filter change (http://www.seat-ibiza-mk4.co.uk/seat_ibiza_tdi_oil_change.htm)

From this HOW TO you should see that the oil filter is fairly easy to change, since it is mounted vertically and is simply a case of unscrewing the oil filter cap, removing the old filter and O rings, replacing with a new filter / O rings, then tightening the filter cap to 25Nm.

Using the suction pump is much easier than going underneath the car, and sump draining the oil. However, a suction pump does take quite a while to remove the old oil.

Even after sucking all the old oil from the engine via the dipstick, the oil filter housing/oil cooler will still contain a fair amount of residual oil.
Extracting oil from the oil cooler is worthwhile, as illustrated by BicCol in this post (see first picture only and note this is a VW Passat so ignore the location of the Fuel Filter!) ; Extracting residual oil from the oil cooler (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=34124&postcount=2).

Once the old oil has been removed, pour about 3.5 Litres of the new oil into the engine, leave to settle for a few minutes and check the oil level. Continue incrementally filling small amounts of oil, until the correct oil level is attained (i.e. between the 2 notches on the dipstick), observing that it may take a few minutes for the oil to trickle down into the oil sump, hence provide an accurate oil level.

Under no circumstances overfill the engine with oil. If this is the case, simply use the suction pump to remove excess oil.

2.2) Draining oil from the sump

2.2.1) Advantages

probably a more thorough way to drain all the oil/debris
crawling underneath the car, allows visual inspection of other components for damage (CV boot gaiters, Steering rack gaiters, gearbox, sump, ...)
no need to practice Yoga!

The procedure for sump draining oil, is much more involved, compared to using a suction pump.

2.2.2) Tools and Parts required:


Car ramp
Wheel chocks
T25 Torx bits
19mm spanner / socket
3/8" drive ratchet
3/8" drive torque wrench capable of 25Nm (?)

Sump plug and washer VW Part number N.908.132.02 (available from VW/Audi/Skoda/SEAT dealers)
Oil filter and O rings: VW Part number 074.115.562 (available from VW/Audi/Skoda/SEAT dealers)
VW 507.00 Oil: e.g. Quantum Longlife 3 5W30 oil [VW Part number G.052.195.M4] (available from VW/Audi/Skoda/SEAT dealers)



To be continued ...

3) Resetting the service reminder

Regards,
TR7

[oilman]

As above folks, what oils do people recommend? Also how easy a DIY job is this, is it just a case of removing the sump tray and drain plug, then changing filter? How easily accessable are all these? Thanks in advance!!

Mike

Which year is the car? VW changed the spec a couple of times and they can be fussy over the specs. If you go for a 507 00 spec oil, it will be fine no matter which version it is. Also is it a variable or fixed service schedule?

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-754-vw-50700-oil.aspx

All of those oils are similar as they are made to meet the VW spec. It's best to pick based on brand preference or price.

Cheers

Tim