What about Your REAL fuel consumption?

[Novica]

Hi
First diesel car which I drove was Opel Ascona 1.6 CY 1984. Its average consumption was among 7 and 8 liters per 100 km. Outside town was below 6 L/100km and in town was more then 8 L/100km. From 2000 I drove new VW Passat Variant 1.9 TDI PD (B5 115 hp) and consumption in town was around 9 L/100 km it was impossible to go under 8 L/100 km. I am aware that in town I was making no more then 5 km and it was full with stop and go. Outside town it was difficult to go under 5.5 L/100 km, and normal consuption was 6 to 7 L/100 km.
Two months ago I bought Audi A4 Avant 1.9 TDI CY 2004 (B6 130hp) and as per board computer the consumption is like this:

Town: min 7 L/100 km (mostly I pay attention and done more then 20km)
max 10.9 L/100 km (if I do not care and with planty start and stop)

Outside: min 4.5 L/100 km (driving with care and without high hills)
max 7 L/100 km (driving like I stole it and pying att on police http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)

Anyhow I am satisfy with my consumption but I read in lots of forums that people are doing even better or unreacheable (for me) consumption.
I realy take care about car, maintenance, tyres etc.

What about Your REAL fuel consumption?

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[a8 tech]

2004 1.9 tdi quattro avant
urban i get 40 mpg
motorway i get 50 mpg
full tank average 480 to 520 miles

[Novica]

This is similar to factory declaration. It is realy good. I knows that everybody has a different style of driving and my is obviosly heavy. My wife knows to get better consumption than I do.

[MalcQV]

Passat 2.0S 130
Urban - 30mpg
Motorway - 37mpg (tops)

My wife gets better MPG than me as a rule too.

[RickT]

The other day i did a 119 mile round trip..

Going there i did not hang around :D and got 49mpg...

On the way home i was following a mate (just picked a car up which had some damage to it so we took it easy) and got a decent figure on the return route..

Pictures below.. bad quality.. but gives you an idea.. its a Mk5 Golf .. 1.9TDI


59.3MPG Over 55 miles...


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/RickT_album/1-1.jpg


Over 55 miles...

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/RickT_album/3.jpg

Average speed was around 70 mph..


Rick


and below..


And below...

Some more photos of another route....


First photo... in the morning before i set off..



Mileage... 65205




http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/RickT_album/upload.jpg





Arrived at location... milage - 65324...






http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/RickT_album/upload2.jpg


Total time so far.. 1 hour 47mins... 119 miles.. - average speed 66mph..

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/RickT_album/upload3.jpg





Return leg home.. (total miles 232) average speed........((it must be wrong!! :-) )) :confused:





http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s13/RickT_album/upload1.jpg



ps... look at the fuel gauge! LOL!!

Rick

[Rhigour]

This is the reason I am so chuffed with my new (but Mk5) Golf with the 1.4 122PS petrol engine with DSG gearbox.

On menu 2 overall consumption in the 2800 miles since I have had it , average 49.1 mpg and still running in and improving . I can`t believe it . Motoring is a mix of town and A roads, no motorways.

[Hex69]

Brimmed my tank after filling up last time and took note of the volume pumped in. Bear in mind this is an 8 1/2 yo Passat with 223k on the clock with the 115bhp diesel.

BTW the refuel light comes on with 10l left in the tank, as it came on as I was entering the petrol station.

623.6 miles, 49.89l added to tank - 56.82 mpg. :biglaugh:

Driving is usually a mix of A roads and motorway at a steady 75 - 80 mph.

[zollaf]

audi coupe 2l 16v. 434 miles . 20 miles country roads, 10 miles town driving. used nearly a whole tank:mad:, about 70 litres. i havnt worked that into mpg, but compared to you guys in diesels and new cars, it looks like im doing more for the economy than you are:approve:.

[Rhigour]

audi coupe 2l 16v. 434 miles . 20 miles country roads, 10 miles town driving. used nearly a whole tank:mad:, about 70 litres. i havnt worked that into mpg, but compared to you guys in diesels and new cars, it looks like im doing more for the economy than you are:approve:.

Carry on the good work , your country needs people like you.
Brown (Gordon) .

[paul b]

I get 46 mpg combined over a use of a full tank, a good mix of round town and short motorway bursts.

It very rarely does more than 15 miles on the motorway in one go, so for a big car I'm rather pleased. Especially because its fast at the same time.

[Combover]

My combined MPG over the past 6 months has been 19mpg..................

from an average tank I get about 220 miles (thats from brimming it, to the needle being below the bottom line!!)

But I dont care!

[zollaf]

those old genesis wankel engines dont arf know how to drink, but oh, what a lovely engine.:D

[Hex69]

those old genesis wankel engines dont arf know how to drink, but oh, what a lovely engine.:D

Genesis, methinks you mean Renesis, not these lot ....:D

http://www.philcollinsfansite.com/images/genesis3.jpg

a right load of wankels....:biglaugh:

[Combover]

Ha brilliant!! There is no Phil Collins under my bonnet!

[zollaf]

aye, renesis, well spotted.probably doesnt sound as nice as a genesis engine though.

[Hex69]

aye, renesis, well spotted.probably doesnt sound as nice as a genesis engine though.

What Yamaha's Genesis engine...:D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_engine

http://www.fz750.net/arch/engine.jpg

or even this one...

http://www.beukeveld.nl/images/stock/special/tp/bluetunder.jpg

[zollaf]

you beat me to it:(.

[Hex69]

you beat me to it:(.

Na na na nana :p

[RickT]

My combined MPG over the past 6 months has been 19mpg..................

from an average tank I get about 220 miles (thats from brimming it, to the needle being below the bottom line!!)

But I dont care!

I know 2 people with Rx8's.. (230's i think) and they both get 220 miles to a take on average!

Rick

[hongkongstuey]

see 65mpg every day on my 30 mile drive from work, mix of town, a road, village, a road, village, a road, town, then town again. not many uphills till near home, steady traffic, occasional overtaking.

best ive seen which i did have a photo for was 79.9, best i can give proof of is attached. thats from an afn engined passat which is chipped to within an inch of its life and a fresh head gasket and vw service parts fitted by vw specialist, fuel filter changed every 6 months as part of 10k service. chip gives 143hp, rolling road produced 158hp an 255lb/ft torque

im very happy with it :beerchug:

[macmillions]

350 miles to a tank in the bad boy Golf. 50ltr tank too.
Hurts my wallet.

I think that equates to roughly 35mpg? not bad for a 21yr old bus.
Although, that figure is reducing due to a hole in the exhaust and blue smoke... (thread in Golf MkII section :1zhelp:)

Money pit, but I love it.

[Combover]

see 65mpg every day on my 30 mile drive


Oh go away you and your 65mpg!!

[MalcQV]

My combined MPG over the past 6 months has been 19mpg..................

from an average tank I get about 220 miles (thats from brimming it, to the needle being below the bottom line!!)

But I dont care!

Fantastic.;)

[hongkongstuey]

Oh go away you and your 65mpg!!

:biglaugh: coming from a 13mpg bmw 325i was a welcome suprise, it hurt my wallet enough!! so much that i want another!! i drove an rx8 pz on a mazda day, loved it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then i got to drive an mx5 and lapped quicker than my mate who was in the rx8 :beerchug: shame they drink so much juice :mad: or they'd sell double or triple or more if they didnt have the bad rep from the early 7's

[Combover]

shame they drink so much juice :mad: or they'd sell double or triple or more if they didnt have the bad rep from the early 7's


Yeah the juice thing is an issue for alot of people.

The 7s required a rebuild usually around 75k miles. The 8 has a decent reputation and are as cheap as chips to buy these days.

They are prone to flooding but thats the main concern with them

[hongkongstuey]

isnt the fuel consumption down to the heat of the rotor, i dunno but i know they run hotter than conventional engines, love them to bits though, always wanted a mk1 rx7, mk2's were crap, mk3's were nice but the rx8 is just gorgeous!! some guy has done a mk3 rx7 with an rx8 front end, looks weird

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/91/img0183xck.jpg rx7 with rx8 front end,looks very smart, shame the paint job is toss
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/759/0303tur05zmazdarx72jzgt.jpgsupra twin turbo engine in a rx7 3rd gen
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/180/p1104091448.jpg just another pic to rub my mpg in a bit more avergaed 68.7 over 60 miles today :biglaugh:

[robsonav]

A6 1.9 TDI - 49.8mpg

[Novica]

It's look like that old type of 1.9 tdi with 90 and 110 hp are better in consumption than PD engines. I did not try to drive them but I was driven and I remember that skoda octavia 1.9 tdi with 110hp had 6.6L/100km (42.8 MPG) in town. These days I was trying to get better consumption in town with my Audi and average was around 9 L/100km (32 MPG).

[hongkongstuey]

It's look like that old type of 1.9 tdi with 90 and 110 hp are better in consumption than PD engines. I did not try to drive them but I was driven and I remember that skoda octavia 1.9 tdi with 110hp had 6.6L/100km (42.8 MPG) in town. These days I was trying to get better consumption in town with my Audi and average was around 9 L/100km (32 MPG).

seems like basic injection systems are better than the pd ones yeah, mines chipped an still does my fantastic figure, i dont hang about either :biglaugh:

wouldnt like to have bought a 90 instead of a 110, my 306 had 93 and it was slooooooooooooooooooooooooow, suits some people though i guess. probably last longer than the 110's? i dunno?

[Novica]

I know a taxi driver which passed 450 000 km with 1.9 tdi 90hp passat b5 and still going on. I had same passat but with 1.9 tdi PD 115 and I passed 100000 km without any problem and on poor quality diesel (first 50000 km passed on D2 - lots of sumpor!).

[macmillions]

I know it not a VAG motor but just did a trip from plymouth in my '02 Clio 1.2l 16v and returned 54mpg! not bad for a petrol, and with a full boot!

[bryno]

39mpg average from 2002 A4 2.5Tdi Avant, mostly cross country/urban cruising on Mway/dual carriageways at 80 to 90mph. Tank range 500 -550 miles before low fuel alarm comes up. do have roof bars though, that adds about 2 mpg. Towing a 1250kg caravan 28mpg.

[andysuth]

1998 Audi A4 B5 110 Bhp, 1.9 TDi.

53.4mpg most recent tank, 48.8mpg running total (over 20,000miles).

Every drop of fuel in is recorded (sad, I know!!!)

LTA is a lot lower than it should be as if there's been a fault with the car it adversely affects the MPG. These days I nearly always get 50+mpg out of it.

-AS

[al4567]

Recently bought an SE 130 Auto, my very gentle daily 5 mile trundle in traffic in London seems to give between 29 and 32 mpg so far.
It strikes me though that the gearbox, although supposedly able to adapt to driving style, doesn't make best use of the torque available when driven gently. If I trundle along at 25/28 mph along a flat/straight road it sticks in 3rd gear at say 1500/1600 rpm? It could easily be in 4th and still pull easily. And putting it into the Tiptronic still won't allow you to manually move it to 4th?

Can the gearbox ECU be remapped easily?

Alex

[gez1802]

Just bought an 02 Passat Estate 1.9TDI(100) two weeks ago.
1st tankfull I got 500miles @ 40.9mpg. Pretty dissapointed considering I was taking it real easy. 400 miles was urban and 100 miles motorway sitting at 70mph. Should I expect more?
Today sitting at 60mph over 30miles only managed 44mpg...

[paul b]

Just bought an 02 Passat Estate 1.9TDI(100) two weeks ago.
1st tankfull I got 500miles @ 40.9mpg. Pretty dissapointed considering I was taking it real easy. 400 miles was urban and 100 miles motorway sitting at 70mph. Should I expect more?
Today sitting at 60mph over 30miles only managed 44mpg...
Being the 100 it will have to rev higher to keep you going at the speed you want.

My 130 gathers speed faster and then I can sit at that speed. The smaller acceleration distance increases the fuel economy.

You could get in touch with one of the forum sponsors, they can remap the PD100 to around 130 I believe. That could help your fuel economy.

Also, if the car is in need of a service it will return lower mpg...

[adamss24]

Missus has a 110Bhp (AVG- engine code) passat tdi estate on a x plate and if i drive it like miss Daisy i get over 80Mpg but never less than 45Mpg in town. Its chiped too and a full tank lasts 600 town to 800 miles motorway. The pd engine cannot match the old VE engine with regards fuel consumption + the VE are much simpler and much more reliable !

[keithwigley]

I must check the weight of my right foot. Lucky to get 30 mpg from my Golf GTI 2.0 DSG - the discerning car thief's car of choice! Still, it does accelerate faster than some white vans away from the traffic lights.

[Grant]

2002 A6 Avant 2.5TDi - 35.0mpg according to the computer, over about 2000 miles of mixed driving, mostly 30/40mph with a heavy right foot to get there ;)

[MalcQV]

I must check the weight of my right foot. Lucky to get 30 mpg from my Golf GTI 2.0 DSG - the discerning car thief's car of choice! Still, it does accelerate faster than some white vans away from the traffic lights.

:D:D:D

I struggle to get much more than 32mpg at the moment. Driving style and a little more town use in my case I think. Road tax is due too. This car is going to have to go next year :(

[paul b]

:D:D:DThis car is going to have to go next year :(
Get yourself a diesel! :p

Preferably a PD130. Go like stink with a manual box. Not in an estate though.

[MalcQV]

Get yourself a diesel! :p

Preferably a PD130. Go like stink with a manual box. Not in an estate though.

Certainly won't rule one out Paul. It will have to be an Audi though, no more VW.

[Eshrules]

Certainly won't rule one out Paul. It will have to be an Audi though, no more VW.

A6 avant, full leather, cruise, dual zone climate and enough room to fit the wife, kids and dogs in. You know it makes sense :)

[Andrew900]

mk3 golf 1598cc, trips to town/around town avg 30-34mpg, hooning about the countryside 25-27mpg and giving it death 20mpg.

still kills my student budget - i look at it as smiles per gallon.:biglaugh:

[Eshrules]

There's so many of these threads I feel like I'm repeating myself, but hey ho :P

M60, 20 mile jaunt, minus the school traffic = average speed of 76mph @ 56.8 mpg.

[omegadirective]

I average about 30-32MPG in a 1.8T S3 Quattro. 300-350miles per tank depending on driving style. On long runs I can hit 40mpg no problem but it drops very quickly as soon as I leave the motorway.

[martin1810]

I don't normally check but yesterday on fill up I did. B6 1.9 tdi estate 55 plate did 51 mpg over last few weeks. That's the best I have ever seen. Usually averages about 45 mpg I think.

[eob]

2007 Passat 2.0 TDi [140].
70 mile daily commute, 90% free moving dual carriage way.
54 MPG, 70l tank = Range of ~800 miles between fillups.
Driven very carefully these figures rise but that makes for a very boring journey.
I generally sit at 70MPH with the cruise on.

I think that VAG are well on their way to breaking the 100MPG barrier.

[hongkongstuey]

i nearly cracked 80mpg a few months back, shame the car is for sale, it'll find a good home im sure :biglaugh: 80mpg in a standard passat would be hard work, mine has more torque than the usual and does fantastic mpg on a run (to get the mpg figure accurate) i saw 79.3mpg over 133 miles

is the REAL bit a jealous poke at me by the way? :beerchug: dont be jealous cos i keep forgetting the last time i put fuel in :biglaugh:

[a8 tech]

Just back from France and covered 1500 miles average 42 mpg filled the tank in Pontivy for the journey back via the ferry at St Marlo then Portsmouth to Manchester and still on French diesel at 80 pence a litre.French roads are fantastic no jams no speed bumps no cameras just a pleasure to drive

[MalcQV]

There's so many of these threads I feel like I'm repeating myself, but hey ho :P

M60, 20 mile jaunt, minus the school traffic = average speed of 76mph @ 56.8 mpg.

:p There are a few, however I have returned after two weeks to the Passat from trying an original Mini to go to work in. The Mini achieved about 45-50mpg and I floored it everywhere, you can do that in a 998cc Mini and legally keep below motorway speeds on the motorway :D.

So now I am back in the Passat and driving like Miss Daisy, and averaging 35-37mpg on the trip. We shall see what that is in real terms when I fill up.

I am now liking my Passat again, so quiet, so smooth (after the Mini), it makes you realise how good it is (or how bad the Mini is?).

Maybe just maybe I will run this car into the ground and not swap it next year, I mean just look at it.... :approve:
She looks so good (to me anyway :D)

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/holden2/cars/others/images/IMGP0043.JPG

[JSH]

Just had 16 mpg out of the passat ( 140bhp 09 reg). over 200 miles!........It was between Stuttgart & Cologne with an indicated 130 mph for over an hour. Well you've gotta have some fun at work aint you!
She was'nt arf ticking when I got out !
John

[JSH]

Oh yes I forgot to say a train overtook me as if I was stood still!
John

[keithwigley]

Reminds me of a friend that chased a Merc along an autobahn. The driver of the Merc had stuck two fingers up at him as he left a filling station. He had to get to speeds in excess of 140 mph before he overtook the Merc. He was driving a Jag XK something or other, and decided to stay ahead of the other driver come hell or high water. He was dissappointed that the Merc gave up the chase after about half an hour when it pulled into a service station. He had to give up himself a few minute after that when the low fuel chime started to sound. He had used 20 gallons of petrol doing 100 miles.

[MalcQV]

Reminds me of a friend that chased a Merc along an autobahn. The driver of the Merc had stuck two fingers up at him as he left a filling station. He had to get to speeds in excess of 140 mph before he overtook the Merc. He was driving a Jag XK something or other, and decided to stay ahead of the other driver come hell or high water. He was dissappointed that the Merc gave up the chase after about half an hour when it pulled into a service station. He had to give up himself a few minute after that when the low fuel chime started to sound. He had used 20 gallons of petrol doing 100 miles.

http://www.windowsguide.org/forum/images/smilies/shocked.gif I like a bit of fun but 5mpg :p

[JSH]

Just back from France and covered 1500 miles average 42 mpg filled the tank in Pontivy for the journey back via the ferry at St Marlo then Portsmouth to Manchester and still on French diesel at 80 pence a litre.French roads are fantastic no jams no speed bumps no cameras just a pleasure to drive

Beware! They do have speed cameras in France, They also Police with radar everywhere. But one of the easiest way to get caugh is the time taken between toll booths. If you cover a known distance between getting your ticket and presenting it to pay under a set time you can be sure of getting a tug from Mr Plod ( This set time can change due to weather conditions )
If in doubt stop for a coffee!

Take care John

[a8 tech]

Thanks John,I will bare this in mind as it looks like I will popping over frequently luckily no toll roads mainly country roads but fair bit on motorways

[JSH]

No problem!
The one thing they do seem keen on is checking you are carrying Hi-viz yellow jacket.
My wifes parents live in the Dordogne and they had an on the spot fine (120euro I think), for not having them in the car even though they had them in the boot!. Word also has it they will do you if your sat-nav shows speed cameras.
take care John P.S tried to send this to A8 but your inbox is full

[a8 tech]

Thanks John I also left the high viz jackets in the boot with the warning triangle,tape and bulbs but for the Police to fine people for having there equipment in the boot is madness.I did the waiting at roundabouts but to be honest the locals beeped me for this and most of them drive like nutters.

[Neerazan]

Best i've had is 27mpg. Usual is around 17-20, worst is 7mpg when I was giving it some.

Don't care though, I grin like a loon whenever I look at it, let alone drive it. :D

[andysuth]

:p
I am now liking my Passat again, so quiet, so smooth (after the Mini), it makes you realise how good it is (or how bad the Mini is?).


Wow!

Not a bad word about the mini!

I had one straight after passing my test and loved it!

The fact you're closer to the ground made it feel a lot faster than it actually was, and I think the suspension was awful, but I loved it non the less.

-AS

[keithwigley]

Perhaps that's why they say the best policemen are British, the best mechanics are German and the French are best cooks.

[MalcQV]

:p There are a few, however I have returned after two weeks to the Passat from trying an original Mini to go to work in. The Mini achieved about 45-50mpg and I floored it everywhere, you can do that in a 998cc Mini and legally keep below motorway speeds on the motorway :D.

So now I am back in the Passat and driving like Miss Daisy, and averaging 35-37mpg on the trip. We shall see what that is in real terms when I fill up.

I am now liking my Passat again, so quiet, so smooth (after the Mini), it makes you realise how good it is (or how bad the Mini is?).

Maybe just maybe I will run this car into the ground and not swap it next year, I mean just look at it.... :approve:
She looks so good (to me anyway :D)





Wow!

Not a bad word about the mini!

I had one straight after passing my test and loved it!

The fact you're closer to the ground made it feel a lot faster than it actually was, and I think the suspension was awful, but I loved it non the less.

-AS

I like the Mini, was thinking about one as a daily, but the ride I would soon get tired of. Maybe as toy one day.

[akalebic]

Passat b5.5 2004 1.9 tdi PD Highline

I am doing about > 80 000 km a year so i have pretty good sample for consumption calculation:

On highway it is avg 5.6 l per 100 km and 6.5 in city roads.

Golden gear shifting zones are no lower than 2000 rpm and upper 2750 for highway and within cities is 2000 rpm for lower and 2500 for upper. The results are based on these driving habits...:beerchug:

[speed12]

VW Bora TDI 130, remapped to 170bhp: 47.5mpg (Combination of motorway, city and B roads). Finding it very hard to acheive 50mpg according to the trip computer. Even a long run at 70mph will only just get to 50-51mpg.

BMW Z4 3.0i: 36.7mpg not bad for a 3.0 straight 6.... but cannot compete with the punchiness of the TDI ;)

[hongkongstuey]

my old beemer 325i did about 13mpg, was hurrendous on fuel, was so glad to get to astronomical levels with the passat, currently on 300 miles from 30 quid of excellium at 1.10 a litre, got just under 1/4 tank left.

on a run i get stupid amounts of mpg, makes me laugh sometimes as i hit 70mpg average time and time again on the motorway, i dont tank it down the fast lane, usually stick to around 70mph, never lower unless average speed zones on m6 etc the 56mph rule wouldnt work on my passat cos the revs would be out the max torque and would be working harder to maintain speed.

[richcar89]

when the 1.8 20v non turbo was running (in drive misfiring now :( )
the max i had was 46mpg doing 50mph for about 140miles,very boring. used to get 40mpg on the motorway at 80ish but never really get more than 29 city driving, my average (not much motorway) is 32mpg.
so shuda bought a turbo cus no difference :(