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Teflon
30-07-2008, 11:05 AM
I thought I'd offer a quick review of the Volkswagen Premium Bluetooth and the RCD510 radio. The radio is an extra £220 (in a Passat), the bluetooth is £575. Both fully integrate and work with the multifunction steeering wheel. Overall, the whole system is fantastic, but the problems are so frustrating that I'd not go the same route again. Read on.................

The RCD 510 gets a complete thumbs up, with no complaints at all. :p Colour touch screen control, 6 x MP3 CD's, tags visble on screen, track listing etc. There is also an SD card slot, which works brilliantly and an AUX-In 3.5mm socket in the armrest. The radio isn't bad either, reception is good and you can store 35 stations as a mix of FM and AM without swapping bands. Tracks and radio stations are shown on the touch screen and on the highline display. There is no longer an option for iPOD integration, but it was pretty krapp anyway, so I don't consider it a major problem.

If you have the optional front and rear parking sensors, these are also integrated into the radio and a "view from above" graphic comes up on screen as soon as reverse is engaged. :p The German version has the option of park assist, but this is not for UK market yet.

The Premium Bluetooth kit fully integrates with the radio, the highline display and the steering wheel. Overall it is magnificent, allowing full visiblity of contacts lists, on-screen speed-dials, integrated voice dialing, easy change from phone to phone. It is not like a Parrot or similar kit, in that it doesn't just control the phone; it is a fully integrated car kit that "steals" the identity of the SIM card in your phone and then does its own thing. It uses the car aerial, so reception is always perfect, even on the top of the Pennines where I usually lose signal. No cradles to get gummed up with bits of dust, the phone can stay in your pocket unless you need to plug in a charger. :p

However, the Bluetooth kit has one MAJOR flaw. It can only work in this fully integrated mode with phones which are compatible. It cannot offer a "simple" bluetooth mode like other car kits or like handsfree earpieces do. :zx11:

The list of compatible phones is very short and most of them are now obsolete. Samsung and LG do not support it, Sony Ericsson and Motorola did, but now do not, so maybe your old phone will work but your new one definately will not. A range of Nokia phones do work, but I've tried a couple of supposedly compatible old 'uns and the connection results were patchy at best. It also turned its nose up a a new N95 but this will supposedly work if you do a software patch to the phone. A couple of Siemens phones also work - great if you live in Germany but no use here. If you've just bought a non-compatible phone on an 18 month contract don't waste money on the VW kit because you are going to be using the Borg headset until you swap to a Nokia. :o Nokia can't/won't guarantee that their phones will support it in future, but given that they supply the kit to VW the chances are that things will be okay. :confused:

So, in summary:
RCD 510 = 10/10 (lower marks if you are an avowed iPOD junkie)
RCD510 with reversing sensors = 10/10
VW Premium Bluetooth Kit = 5/10, reflecting its deeply flawed genius and its Nokia fetish.

I hope this helps.

p.s. apparently, it is the same phone kit for VW, Bentley, Audi, Skoda, Porsche and Ferrari 599GTB so if you want to use the same phone in your Ferrari, there is only one model you can buy from Marenello, don't buy a 430 or a 612.

DaveNN
11-08-2008, 07:43 PM
Many Thanks for the review.....You don't happen to have any in car shots of it do you pls?
Also, I'm led to understand that some of the higher spec systems offer the facility to store that last few traffic reports. Does this do that..or anything 'special.

Cheers
Dave

Teflon
12-08-2008, 06:17 PM
Yes, it does store traffic reports, complete with the time of broadcast in the same way as the Audi Concert radio. I forgot that bit, sorry.

As well as RDS on FM stations it also has the option for "Radio text", whatever that is. There are no stations near me that transmit radio text, so it may be a German or mainland Europe thing.

There is already a web site with some photos, so I'll try and look up the link and put it here.

stangrenade
22-08-2008, 06:18 PM
Did you fit the RCD510 yourself ?

Teflon
23-08-2008, 04:06 PM
Did you fit the RCD510 yourself ?
No, factory fit option instead of the RCD310, at an extra £220, which I reckon is a bargain (compared with VW prices for Sat-Nav, etc.).

It is a straight plug & play replacement for the standard radio, though. They are starting to pop up on E-Bay for about £500, but should be cheaper once there are a few about.

stangrenade
24-08-2008, 06:16 PM
Superb. ive been toying with the idea of replacing my RCD300 for the RCD510 but have been very hesitant in case it wasnt so simple as a straight swap. The dealer quoted me £800 for the 510 !! so now cant decide if i should go for the sat nav version while im at it , any suggestions ?

Teflon
26-08-2008, 04:56 PM
Superb. ive been toying with the idea of replacing my RCD300 for the RCD510 but have been very hesitant in case it wasnt so simple as a straight swap. The dealer quoted me £800 for the 510 !! so now cant decide if i should go for the sat nav version while im at it , any suggestions ?
People seem to either love or hate the VW Sat-Nav system. For my money it is over priced and under-performing compared with a cheapo Tom Tom; almost 10x the extra price of the RCD510 was just too much for me. But the RNS510 touch screen Nav does look seriously nice, check out the review of it, also on the In-Car-Entertainment thread.

£810 seems a wacking great big price for an RCD510. Can you negotiate to get it at a trade price? They are starting to appear on EBay at about £500. Nav units strart at about twice this, but I've not seen a second-hand RNS510 yet.

It is definately a straight swap for the RCD310 and I assume for the RCD300, but it is worth checking before you splash out.

stangrenade
26-08-2008, 08:28 PM
Yes you're right it does look nice but after a quote of £1600 !! for the RNS i think i'll definately give it a miss. The MP3 was my main attraction for swapping units.
I did get a trade quote though, £760 haha, save a little i guess.

To be honest i was a bit miffed after calling the dealers today, i also wanted to upgrade the steering wheel for the one with controls on, apparently this cannot be carried out aftermarket due not having that particular wiring loom or connection ports on fuse/control box. according to the dealers theres not alot can be added after the car has come off line, even origional foglights cannot be fit after unless an insane price is paid.

I am still going to go for the RCD510 as i do love my ICE, and upgrade the speakers, then if theres not too much bother involved i'll see about fitting an amp (the under passenger seat version) as i dont want to disturb too much on the motor.

''It is definately a straight swap for the RCD310 and I assume for the RCD300, but it is worth checking before you splash out.'' - dont suppose you could point me in the right direction where to post such a question please? i have done already but think i put it in totally the wrong place , not 1 reply !! im a noobie here haha.

cheers Teflon

Teflon
02-09-2008, 11:47 AM
Not taken any photos yet, but here's a video I found of some of the RCD510 functions. Only things it doesn't show are CD play and the parking sensors display.

aspiadas
05-09-2008, 08:12 PM
I have just taken delivery of my Touran. I chose the RCD510 and although it's a nice radio, it is sometimes a bit slow. For instance, going into the selection and navigating up to other discs takes too long. One thing that also irritates is the fact that the CD titles and artists, track info are not being displayed. Is anyone having the same issue ?

cheers.

Teflon
08-09-2008, 10:59 AM
The non-display of music CD track titles is irritating, but that is common to most other CD players I have come across. Not all music CDs have a title and track list that are machine readable and until we get internet connected head units it will remain a problem.

If you burn MP3 or WMA CDs, you get full folder listing on the RCD510 display and track listing on both the radio and the MFD. You obviously also get 10x as much music on a CD.

Personally, I have it stuffed with 6CD's of MP3's giving me about 60 albums worth. It's annoying that the 510 won't read the MP3 Disc title and you have to remember which disc number is classical and which is rock, but in practice it's a minor flaw. Not finding any problem with speed, but it took me a while to work out which buttons in which order gave the swiftest way through.

stangrenade
09-09-2008, 06:06 PM
I have just taken delivery of my Touran. I chose the RCD510 and although it's a nice radio, it is sometimes a bit slow. For instance, going into the selection and navigating up to other discs takes too long. One thing that also irritates is the fact that the CD titles and artists, track info are not being displayed. Is anyone having the same issue ?

cheers.

Is that on Origional CD or are they your self made compilations??
You may not of chose to 'tag' the cd when burning it.

aspiadas
10-09-2008, 09:41 PM
Original CD's. Sometimes it recognises them, even have a CD which showed all the information but after ejecting and reinserting it no longer showed the info. I tried turning on / off the 'disable title/artist' from the Media Setup but it made no difference.

I guess it's a bug with the radio. I don't suppose Car Stereo manufacturers bring out new software for their devices ?

stangrenade
15-09-2008, 02:26 AM
even have a CD which showed all the information but after ejecting and reinserting it no longer showed the info.

Eeerrrmm . . .. . :confused:

firefly2008
08-10-2008, 11:04 AM
Teflon, now you have had your RCD 510 a while, can you answer this for me... can you upload (save) music from the SD card into the system? I understand it has a 30gb memory as well as the 6 disc option. I was told that this was possible by the garage, and therefore removes some of the need of the ipod dock (that I understand was not that useful anyway, as it does not give on-screen control or listing details, whereas the SD does).

I have just ordered a new Passat with 510 (non-satnav) and DAB. :biglaugh:

Oh, and I plummed for the premium bluetooth too, well 'in for a penny...' I have a nokia handset and it worked well on the demo car I had. how bad can it be?

Teflon
08-10-2008, 08:43 PM
Teflon, now you have had your RCD 510 a while, can you answer this for me... can you upload (save) music from the SD card into the system? I understand it has a 30gb memory as well as the 6 disc option. I was told that this was possible by the garage, and therefore removes some of the need of the ipod dock (that I understand was not that useful anyway, as it does not give on-screen control or listing details, whereas the SD does).

I have just ordered a new Passat with 510 (non-satnav) and DAB. :biglaugh:

Oh, and I plummed for the premium bluetooth too, well 'in for a penny...' I have a nokia handset and it worked well on the demo car I had. how bad can it be?No, 'fraid not, but it doesn't seem to be much of a handicap with 6 x MP3 CD's worth of music on disc, plus the SD card. The manual seems to be a bit contradictory, it suggests that it can take SD cards up to 4Gb but also says you can't have more than 2Gb! Personally, I've not had more than 1Gb in the slot.

The RCD 510 doesn't have a hard disc to save music or anything else to. I believe the RNS510 Nav unit does have a hard disc, so if it is this you have ordered, you may be in luck. Try a Google search for "RNS510 manual" and you should be able to find a copy or else PM me an EMail address and I will send you one.

Both models also have an Aux input socket (in the armrest), so you can plug in an iPod even if you have to control it the old fashioned way, In Germany, you can specify the multimedia input, which does offer iPod control, so maybe it will make it over here eventually.

firefly2008
09-10-2008, 12:52 AM
:( Thanks for the prompt reply, a little dissapointed, although not surprised, by the answer. I think you are correct, the sat-nav version of the 510 has the in-built memory, to assist running the programme, whereas the RCD version wouldn't need it. Shame as I thought I would be able to load all my music in to the unit, to remove the need for the ipod.

also a shame you can't get the multi-media link in the UK yet, even Ford offer it now on a Focus! :confused:

that said, if I can get it to take a 4gb SD card that would take a greater part of the music in one go. And I believe it reads the track details well using this format.

I have also been in touch with the local specialist sound/custom people, and they are convinced that, as the actual unit will be a shared component (not just between VAG/Skoda but with a major maunfacturer, an appropriate i-pod dock, with full head unit interface and operation, could be fitted (just wont be cheap!) later on.

Can't google a manual for the 510 anywhere... any chance someone has one out there?? I appreciate one will arrive with the car, but it hasn't been delivered yet! :p

cheers.

firefly2008
09-10-2008, 01:43 AM
for anyone that is interested, I have just learned that VAG is launching the MDI (multi media interface) that goes in the centre stow area and links up with the exisitng aux leads. this will give full interface ( I believe). its in the states by the look of it. can't find it on ebay yet! ;)

"VW is working on a proper iPod adaptor. It's called the MDI or Media In. Supports USB, Aux and iPod. Comes with a USB cable but you need an iPod cable if you want iPod. Full integration of the iPod. Requires the RNS-510 in order to use it since it fully works with it. It can work with the RCD 510 as well" - go to //townhall(dash)talk(dot)edmunds(dot)com/direct/view/.f160456/19

may be worth discussing with the main agent to order in... not sure whether it would also require any other interface parts at the stereo end :confused: but claims to run on both 510 models.

there is also some good youtube footage of the 510 unit in use with SD card option. it does give full on-screen detail and maps this to the 'Highline' dash display too. clever.

:drive:

bar25
23-10-2008, 11:28 PM
thank you

firefly2008
23-10-2008, 11:59 PM
thank you
hey no problem! update info is that a VW dealer should be able to offer the MDI upgrade to a current model Passat at Christmas or early new year. details to follow when i have them...

stangrenade
26-10-2008, 10:55 PM
Have any of you had problems with the RCD510 draining the battery ??

BazilGr
31-10-2008, 05:27 AM
Hello to all. I have a question about the bluetooth unit. Does it connect automatically to the phone when you enter the car or do you have to choose it manually? What if the phone is already connected to a bluetooth headset? Do you have to disconnect the headset and connect it to the car's bluetooth unit?

Teflon
04-11-2008, 04:01 PM
The phone automatically connects to a phone that it already recognises. If there are two phones in the car (say, me and the boss lady) then it connects to whichever one was connected last time. So if she's been using my car, her's takes preference when we both climb in together. You can direct it to connect to any other phone in the list of those that it it already knows. You can tell it to look for an unknown bluetooth phone of the (very limited) range that it will work with, but it will only do this when the car is stationary. If your phone goes flat the kit will automatically disconnect from it and look for the next phone it knows and loves. Each phone it knows can have its own directory and its own set of six speed dial numbers.

If your phone is already paired with another bluetooth device like a headset, the car kit will not be able to find the phone until you have un-paired it from the other device.

BazilGr
04-11-2008, 06:08 PM
Thanks!!

firefly2008
05-11-2008, 12:19 AM
Thanks Teflon for more great info. After all my research about getting the right handset, I have just been told that work are going to give me a PDA (with satnav) and I am expected to use that instead of my Nokia handset! I only hope it pairs !!

car currently in build... hoping it will be here by Christmas... ho ho ho

villager
19-11-2008, 08:36 PM
hello

I have a passat cc with the 510 unit. my silly question is how do you save music to the sd card. I have some albums stored on sony software that gives the option to copy to cd only.??? Welcome any help


thanks

eddie

Teflon
20-11-2008, 03:31 PM
Villager,

The following assumes that you have a PC and are reasonably computer literate.

1. Rip whatever music you want to play in the car to either mp3 or wma file format on your computer hard disc. No need to bother with high bit rates, 120 bps is more than good enough for inside the car. If you use Windows Media Player or any similar software which has internet access it will usually go find the album details and automatically tag the files up for you so that the ID's appear on the display when played.

2. Do a file copy of the mp3's/wma's from the hard drive folder where you put them to the SD card. If you want to create different "albums" on the SD card, just create separate folders on the card and give them a name e.g. "Dolly Parton - Greatest Hits", "My Favourite Iron Maiden Tracks" and so on. If you do this the album name will also be displayed on the RCD510 when played.

3. That's it.

villager
20-11-2008, 09:44 PM
Hi Teflon

thanks for that. moved the library to Windows no problem after that.

thanks again

eddie

firefly2008
26-11-2008, 12:56 AM
Hey all... ipod update... spoke to main dealer today about ipod fit to my new Passat. MEDIA-IN now available from VW giving access to tracks, album names and playlists... also makes use of radio controls for scrolling... fits to RCD310; 510 and RNS 510 on models AFTER 1 June 2008 (sorry, its to do with software changes).

MEDIA-IN part number 5N0057342 and RRP is £200 incl. you will also need to specify ipod, USB or mini-usb adapter at £20-30.

Off to place my order. will feedback once I have it in.

firefly2008
11-12-2008, 04:52 PM
MEDIA - IN

I received my new VW Passat yesterday after a long wait... I have had the Media-In fitted by the dealer (their first request!) prior to delivery and would like to offer this appraisal... ITS FANTASTIC. The Media-In appears similar to the old glovebox cradle, in that it is a socket termination in the glove box but that is about the end of the comparison... ;)

You can specify the type of connection you require (ipod, USB etc) and the car will charge the MP3 player whilst in use. Access is really fast, simply select MEDIA-IN from a top nav bar (next to CD and SD CARD). Once accessed, you can choose to play in alphabetical order - and I admit that scrolling in this way to, say, 'S' artists can be slow! - or chose from playlists (not just 4 or 5, all of them! - or select by artist/title etc as you would your ipod/MP3 player. :biglaugh:

The display and function remains the same, ie you wont get the ipod style files and images but you will get full track details providing you entered them into the MP3 player.

The MEDIA-IN is £200 list, fitted, and then you will pay £20-30 for an appropriate lead to fit your player. it is worth it.

As for the in-built phone kit, well I had already made sure that my Nokia 6230 would be compatible and have paired it very easily. The only minor problem was that it asked me to enter the SIM code (4 digit) and this through me.... :Blush: but I got there easy enough. The quality of sound is 10 times that of Parrot, and the performance is increased even more so as the car is sending the call and not the little phone, so signal is much improved (I had been having problems in some areas with cut-out from the Parrot but nothing like with the factory kit. Being Nokia made it is also simple to use.

There is full Highline dash info to scroll through for calls, lets you read text as it arrives, you can dial a new number from the flip out key pad on the dash or make use of the touch screen on the RCD 510 - the display here can be pre-programmed with favorite numbers for 'speed dial'. There is also voice dial but I have yet to try this.:confused:

Whilst some have said that the phone kit can be fussy about pairing - and I will test this with my new PDA in January - I can't fault it so far, except perhaps the expense. Whilst Ford offer a low cost option, it does no more than a Parrot kit. This VW solution is very clever. I just hope it is clever enough to pair with the PDA when it comes!!

I hope this helps. now go buy a MEDIA-IN (but be warned, the dealer should advise that it only works on late 2008 onward models - ask for advice).

Oh and VW have changed the dash... you now get the CC style twin dials, with fuel and temp set within them, and the nice white back-lights. nice. :D

Garethdvjones
30-01-2009, 01:25 PM
RDC510 Bluetooth Option

I have had my new Passat CC for a week now, I went for the Bluetooth phone option, and I am very glad that I did!

Firstly, looking around before I ordered the car I couldn't find a compatibility chart for love nor money! I have a Blackberry Storm, and a Nokia E90, both handsets work with really well! The Nokia was easier to pair, the Blackberry took a while to pair, but once it did, again it worked fine!

I love the functionality of it, the RCD510 works brilliantly, you can view your entire contact list, search for a specific contact, setup 5 speed dials, last dialled, received and missed calls. You can even read text messages on it too! (only on the MFD, between the speed dials).

This bluetooth car kit differs from many others in that it uses a 'remote sim' system, effectively the phone becomes redundant when connected to the carkit. This is good and bad, in my opinion. The positive point is that the network signal is significantly better because it uses an antenna on the car and also all of the functionallity above. The only slight downside is that you cannot use the phone at all, so if i you want to browse the web, chack your old messages, emails etc, you cant. Although you can still view youre calendar. Minor points, overall i am very impressed with it!

canke4
21-04-2009, 09:01 AM
I've got a Blackberry 8100 and can't seem to pair it to the car. How did you pair yours?

Also, can you have the media input for iPod with the 6 disc changer?

Cheers

firefly2008
21-04-2009, 11:57 PM
I've got a Blackberry 8100 and can't seem to pair it to the car. How did you pair yours?

Also, can you have the media input for iPod with the 6 disc changer?

Cheers

I would hope that Garethdvjones can help ref the Blackberry. My old Nokia paired easy, following the book instructions. There was a moment of panic when it asked for a code, but that is a bit of a 'curve ball' as I thinks it is a nice to have. Again read the book well first.

The unit does have a history (certainly within these forums) of being choosey as to who or what it pairs with. Hopefully you will get some help from others, or take it to VW and see if they can do it... you have given them enough money already!! I am about to get a new PDA for work and am dreading the outcome of syncing it... :confused:

as for MDI, I have the 6 disc head unit (I think the 510 is standard as 6-disc) and you can select either a CD from those inserted or swap to 'media' and play your Ipod, MP3 player or memory stick. the connection suitability is determined by the connection lead you select. again consult a knowing dealer... I now have 5000 tracks in the car! Once you have made playlists on your pc and import them to the ipod, it makes selections easy (although the daft thing always seems to return to playing by artist name :o). You can chose to play by artist, alphabetical track, playlist or random. Oh, and it will charge too. brilliant bit of kit. And sounds great thro the standard speakers, so personally I wouldnt spend loads on the up-grade. If you must spend more I reckon a specialist audio shop will do you at least as good up-grade for less money. but that is a personal choice

Good luck with the Blackberry

canke4
22-04-2009, 08:53 AM
Thanks for the info.

My car is in for warranty work today so I'll ask the dealer.

jcb
24-04-2009, 11:33 AM
we have this unit with SAT NAV in our skoda superb. its a really nice unit. the advantage of the sat nav version is that it is hard drive based and you get 18GB spare to put your music on. The only watch out is that on the sat nav version the firmware is different and it only supposrt SD cards not SDHC. but then you dont need the SD slot often as you have the 18GB of inbuilt storage. you also get the ability to play DVDs (not whilst moving though !). this gives the added bonus that you can play MP3 files from DVD and it will take dual layer DVDS so you can upload all your MP3's via a DVD. You can also extended the storage capacity by leaving a DVD in the slot with music on it (sat nav runs from the hard drive so you dont need the DVD slot !)

andyduz
29-05-2009, 07:20 AM
Hi Folks, looking on the pricelist for the Passat CC, it suggests the RCD510 is not compatible with the Media Interface for ipod. Could anyone confirm otherwise as I suspect it may refer to older models of the RCD510?
Many thanks.

kiforrest
29-08-2009, 10:17 AM
it only supposrt SD cards not SDHC. but then you dont need the SD slot often as you have the 18GB of inbuilt storage.

Latest firmware supports SDHC. I now have a nice 32Gb card nestling in there :biglaugh:

dustynoff
10-09-2009, 10:03 AM
RDC510 Bluetooth Option

I have had my new Passat CC for a week now, I went for the Bluetooth phone option, and I am very glad that I did!

Firstly, looking around before I ordered the car I couldn't find a compatibility chart for love nor money! I have a Blackberry Storm, and a Nokia E90, both handsets work with really well! The Nokia was easier to pair, the Blackberry took a while to pair, but once it did, again it worked fine!

I love the functionality of it, the RCD510 works brilliantly, you can view your entire contact list, search for a specific contact, setup 5 speed dials, last dialled, received and missed calls. You can even read text messages on it too! (only on the MFD, between the speed dials).

This bluetooth car kit differs from many others in that it uses a 'remote sim' system, effectively the phone becomes redundant when connected to the carkit. This is good and bad, in my opinion. The positive point is that the network signal is significantly better because it uses an antenna on the car and also all of the functionallity above. The only slight downside is that you cannot use the phone at all, so if i you want to browse the web, chack your old messages, emails etc, you cant. Although you can still view youre calendar. Minor points, overall i am very impressed with it!
Garethdvjones,
I have a BB Strom and having problem pairing it with the Car 510 bluetooth system, can you assist.
You mentioned that it was not a easy to pair with the BB but you managed to get it to work, how did you do it. Is there a something additional or a tweak that you have to do on the storm.

SimonN
24-09-2009, 04:01 PM
Hi All,

First post on here but I've been registered for ages - 3 cars ago in fact - it's been a great help so many thanks.
I've worked something out which may be of help to someone, somewhere. Anyway - I've read on here, *somewhere - and of course I can't find it now to reply properly* , that people were having trouble shuffling an entire directory structure from the SD cards on the 510. They've only been able to shuffle an album or playlist. I've had my Passat CC for a couple of days now and this was bugging me too so I've had a play and found a solution:

The mix function will only look down a directory structure and not above. You must have something to play as a starting point so, if you put a single MP3 at the top level where you store all your artists folders (which in turn will contain albums and then tracks a further level down) then it works.
Start by selecting the top level track (better make it a favourite ;) ) and hit the mix button and it'll shuffle everything below (assuming you've enable the shuffle sub directories option in the set up obviously)

Hope that helps whoever it was that had the problem and apologies if this isn't the right place to post it.

Simon.

cityboy62
29-09-2009, 06:08 PM
First post on here as just taken delivery of passat estate highline 140ps cr dsg with premium bluetooth. Having searched here and elsewhere for compatible phones and also emailed VW, the usual suspects came up via the approved list. I also found a way of getting a download to my Nokia N95 which has made it compatible with the factory fit bluetooth!:D

It seems to do everything I expected and have yet to find it lacking in terms of the advertised functionality.

Edit - I have also just changed my phone to a Nokia N86 8MP and this works just fine too with the premium bluetooth.


Cityboy62

thehumbold
25-02-2010, 09:33 PM
Just a thought..

When buying a new car, if you choose the bluetooth option your looking at £400 for a rSAP bluetooth kit with all the limitations of what phone it can actually pair up with.

My advice for (what it's worth) is don't buy the bluetooth factory fitted. Buy one that is none rSAP, will work with all phones including the iphone. I bought mine and my other half a none rSAP kit on ebay for £210 and had it fitted for £120.

A saving of £70 and it works with all bluetooth phones both old and new.

Bren

redrolo
25-02-2010, 09:52 PM
Bren a few questions if I may:
What kit did you put into your car, and what is the phone signal like? Does it allow you to use the RNS to answer calls on the screen?

I have got a RNS510 and a Parrot mki9200 car kit, which I can put my iphone or works Blackberry through. The problems are:
The parrot and RNS don't work together. Apparently there is a tele mute connection that needs to be swapped. The other issue is the mic and phone signal are poor. Finally it is a bit in your face which isn't what I really wanted.

I have been looking at swapping for either a skoda oem kit or a RSAP and just use my BB.

Finally, how much better is the remap? has it improved the fuel economy at all?

Thanks R

thehumbold
25-02-2010, 11:03 PM
I bought our bt kits on ebay, search for item number 220546928239. The seller is from poland, but everything is genuine vw and it is posted with tracking. I offered £200 which he accepted. I had a parrot kit but for the same reasons as yourself I didn't like it. Having a phone button on the RNS unit which didn't work bugged me.

It all works a treat now, the phone signal is as per the phone, it isn't enhanced by the bt kit. The mic is perfect, the pick up is that good the other person would hardly realise you were in a car! I can work the phone from the function buttons on the RNS510 and also from the steering wheel controls with infomation, phone book, etc displayed on the MFD between the dials.

The remap has made the car infinately better. Before the reamp it was like driving a whale and I was thinking about swapping it in Sept, however, now it drives at it should have done when it left the factory. As for the mpg, roughly 4-5 mgp more with the remap.

My insurance without the remap was £288 (with More Than) fully comp and with the remap only went up to £366 (with RAC)

Hope this helps

Bren

Martin Stevens
25-03-2010, 05:57 PM
It may have a Nokia fetish but I've just discovered the Blackberry Curve 8520 & Blackberry Bold 9700 work fine with my wife's new Golf.:D

The same phones also work with Mercedes and Porsche PCM.:D:D

Result:beerchug:

marksooty
07-04-2010, 04:42 PM
It may have a Nokia fetish but I've just discovered the Blackberry Curve 8520 & Blackberry Bold 9700 work fine with my wife's new Golf.:D

The same phones also work with Mercedes and Porsche PCM.:D:D

Result:beerchug:
Has anyone had any joy when going back to there dealer when they wanted to change phones, we picked up our passat cc dec 24 2009 then when looking to change phones in feb 2010 we tried my samsung (my wife had a nokia 6500c which was paired when we picked the car up) and the sytem ( factory fitted premium blue tooth kit) said not compatable. After starting to do some research we found out the system is rSAP which we now know only works with old phones. Our dealer has said that because it hooked up to my wifes nokia when we picked up the car this rates as a valid compatability test and say there is nothing wrong with the system even though we can't get a current phone to be compatable, the list from our dealer is so out of date you can't get any of the phones at the carphone wharehouse. does anyone know of current phones that work (smartphones preferably). when we complained about a brand new car's bluetooth not working with new bluetooth fones and asked them what they would do there offer was to fit a vw bury car kit which will work with all current blue tooth enabled phones for a cost of £100 to us ( the kit retails fitted at £230) which I don't think we should have to pay for as a new car's phone kit won't work with new phones.
We where not told at the time of ordering the car that the phone kit will only work with limited old phones, we where told it will work with most nokia's this isn't the case at all. i now have a blackberry curve 8900 but can't get this to pair anyone had any luck with one.
Has anyone had a similar experience and what was the out come.
Mant thanks.

Martin Stevens
07-04-2010, 06:26 PM
Mark

You need to get a phone that has rSAP or SAP (remote SIM access protocal). Like I said earlier in the thread, the only Blackberry's that have this are the Curve 8520 or the Bold 9700.

Most new phones have this but you need to check when getting one. Unfortunately most of the muppets that work in the phone dealers are ignorant of this.

Any phone with rSAP should work on the VW kits.

FYI. None of the iphones have rSAP.

Hope this helps.;)

Martin Stevens
07-04-2010, 06:27 PM
Thats Protocol not Protocal.

marksooty
07-04-2010, 07:48 PM
Thanks for the quick reply martin.
I know about the rsap unfortunatly it,'s a struggle to find any new phones with this on that are what my wife is looking at, it seems every time she finds a phone it's not compatable. do you or anyone know how long the vw premium car kit has been out as i think that although with my wifes old phone it's a very good system it seems that as a new piece of kit it's extremly limited the list that was supplied by our dealer only had pre 2008 phones alot of which are discontinued. As for the whole rSAP nobody at the phone company's or dealership seems to know much about apart from the dealership just saying 'you need a fone with rSAP' like some sort of stuck recorded message.

Martin Stevens
08-04-2010, 08:23 AM
Mark

What sort of phones is your wife looking at?

Most of the new Nokia's have rSAP including this one

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/E72

I had to change my wife's phone when we bought the Golf recently and we bot her the Blackberry Curve 8520. It's a really neat little phone and you can get it free from most providers.

Regards


Martin

Martin Stevens
08-04-2010, 08:58 AM
Mark

Just found this site that lets you see which mobiles have rSAP. It's for the Bentley but it lets you see the phones that have rSAP.

http://www.bentleymotors.com/ownership/bluetooth_guide/

You can scroll through a whole load of phones. Just pick one of the ones that says rSAP under the Bluetooth profile.

I would recommend you try before you buy.

Regards

Martin

manic-vw
27-04-2010, 12:07 PM
Hi guys, has anyone tried any of the android phones like the htc desire with the rcd 510. I dont think they are rSAP but should they not be able to connect just as a hands free option without the full contacts transfer. Please advice as I am very keen on that phone but would like to be able to use it in my car.

theoc
02-05-2010, 07:52 AM
Hi...... have an HTC touch that works fine with the premium kit. Mine is a retrofit but has full funcionality, including contacts transfer

manic-vw
02-05-2010, 08:27 AM
Thanks theoc I think the HTC touch is a winmo phone while the desire is an Android phone. The desire is an amazing phone but has known Bluetooth issues. I am hoping that the vibrant android developers or the hood guys at MoDaCo can find a solution. Any one had any success with a nexus one or desire in their golf??

Teflon
16-05-2010, 04:45 PM
An update on mobiles that will work with Premium Bluetooth

If you have read this thread from start to finish, you will have spotted that I am pretty peed off with VW and my dealer about the limited number of (mainly Nokia) phones that will work and the stupidly old list of compatible phones on the official list. After drawing a blank when seeking advice about a new phone, I put in a couple of days of surfing, e-mails, calling phone manufacturers and reading on-line manuals. Then I bought a phone.

I can say with confidence that after a lot of beggering about the new Nokia X6 can be persuaded to work.

I can also say that the 5800 X-Press, the 6303, the 6700 (both slide and flat), the N86, the N97 and N97 Mini all should work, according to the manual, but without checking each individually I can't be sure.

As for the rest, iPhone no, Samsung no, Sony no, Motorola no, LG no. HTC and Blackberry both have models that might work depending on software version but neither company could be rrrssed to answer the questions about which ones. Blackberry even wanted me to phone their premium helpline in America!

I hope this helps.

Redgolfgtd
17-05-2010, 09:59 AM
Hi thehumbold,
Sorry am new to this forum. I've just read this post where you have fitted a bluetooth/phone module to your rcs510, you said you got it from Poland.

Am a bit of a technafobe was it simple? One of the ones on ebay says it will need VagCom initiate? How did you do it.

Thanks in advance

Carl

s4lek123
25-05-2010, 12:20 AM
hi , im thinking of fitting one of these in my 2005 golf gti, does anyone know if its compatible with the iphone 3gs.

DUMBODOGGY
27-06-2010, 09:10 PM
Great guide, was going to opt for this in Sept, a great help!

thehumbold
28-06-2010, 09:22 AM
I bought it on eBay and the seller was based in Poland. Then I had it fitted by a chap called Ben Wardle of Shark Performance. He's based in Mansfield. If you have an iPhone' you'll need the non rsap Bluetooth kit. Feel free to send me a pm if you have any other questions..

Bren

cityboy62
28-06-2010, 11:02 AM
An update on mobiles that will work with Premium Bluetooth

I can also say that the 5800 X-Press, the 6303, the 6700 (both slide and flat), the N86, the N97 and N97 Mini all should work, according to the manual, but without checking each individually I can't be sure.

As for the rest, iPhone no, Samsung no, Sony no, Motorola no, LG no. HTC and Blackberry both have models that might work depending on software version but neither company could be rrrssed to answer the questions about which ones. Blackberry even wanted me to phone their premium helpline in America!

I hope this helps.

I can confirm that both N86 and N97 work with full functionality with premium bluetooth in my '09 Passat.

daclyn
02-07-2010, 09:23 AM
Golf Plus 1.9tdi 55 plate.

Just bought a RCD510 new off Ebay to replace a RCD300.

Was able to dismantle the antenna plugs (no cutting or extender leads).

What best bit rate for mp3 :1zhelp:

Also where can I download a User Guide :1zhelp:

Cheers

m11ckx
02-07-2010, 12:52 PM
samsung jet s8000 works just fine with rcd510
using it for six months now

Nets
13-09-2010, 11:16 AM
I thought I'd offer a quick review of the Volkswagen Premium Bluetooth and the RCD510 radio. The radio is an extra £220 (in a Passat), the bluetooth is £575. Both fully integrate and work with the multifunction steeering wheel. Overall, the whole system is fantastic, but the problems are so frustrating that I'd not go the same route again. Read on.................

The RCD 510 gets a complete thumbs up, with no complaints at all. :p Colour touch screen control, 6 x MP3 CD's, tags visble on screen, track listing etc. There is also an SD card slot, which works brilliantly and an AUX-In 3.5mm socket in the armrest. The radio isn't bad either, reception is good and you can store 35 stations as a mix of FM and AM without swapping bands. Tracks and radio stations are shown on the touch screen and on the highline display. There is no longer an option for iPOD integration, but it was pretty krapp anyway, so I don't consider it a major problem.

If you have the optional front and rear parking sensors, these are also integrated into the radio and a "view from above" graphic comes up on screen as soon as reverse is engaged. :p The German version has the option of park assist, but this is not for UK market yet.

The Premium Bluetooth kit fully integrates with the radio, the highline display and the steering wheel. Overall it is magnificent, allowing full visiblity of contacts lists, on-screen speed-dials, integrated voice dialing, easy change from phone to phone. It is not like a Parrot or similar kit, in that it doesn't just control the phone; it is a fully integrated car kit that "steals" the identity of the SIM card in your phone and then does its own thing. It uses the car aerial, so reception is always perfect, even on the top of the Pennines where I usually lose signal. No cradles to get gummed up with bits of dust, the phone can stay in your pocket unless you need to plug in a charger. :p

However, the Bluetooth kit has one MAJOR flaw. It can only work in this fully integrated mode with phones which are compatible. It cannot offer a "simple" bluetooth mode like other car kits or like handsfree earpieces do. :zx11:

The list of compatible phones is very short and most of them are now obsolete. Samsung and LG do not support it, Sony Ericsson and Motorola did, but now do not, so maybe your old phone will work but your new one definately will not. A range of Nokia phones do work, but I've tried a couple of supposedly compatible old 'uns and the connection results were patchy at best. It also turned its nose up a a new N95 but this will supposedly work if you do a software patch to the phone. A couple of Siemens phones also work - great if you live in Germany but no use here. If you've just bought a non-compatible phone on an 18 month contract don't waste money on the VW kit because you are going to be using the Borg headset until you swap to a Nokia. :o Nokia can't/won't guarantee that their phones will support it in future, but given that they supply the kit to VW the chances are that things will be okay. :confused:

So, in summary:
RCD 510 = 10/10 (lower marks if you are an avowed iPOD junkie)
RCD510 with reversing sensors = 10/10
VW Premium Bluetooth Kit = 5/10, reflecting its deeply flawed genius and its Nokia fetish.

I hope this helps.

p.s. apparently, it is the same phone kit for VW, Bentley, Audi, Skoda, Porsche and Ferrari 599GTB so if you want to use the same phone in your Ferrari, there is only one model you can buy from Marenello, don't buy a 430 or a 612.


Hello.

i have a VW Golf with RCD510+Bluetooth kit
Agree in almost all you say but in bluetooth kit i had problems with my old phone ( LG GT 505) and in the time i ended in buy a new one, but there's allways some updates that u can make in phone because all the phone needs to have is an option called "Remote SIM Card" the Samsung have it but it comes turned off so u just need turn it on, i have a Samsung H1 atm and works.

My old LG phone had the option but it wasnt available in software, so checked ( ALOT) around web and found some update and it works. but its a risk cause some u can mess up the phone also with those updates.

Since Remote SIM Card is an old thing at phones most part of phones can work there.

All the rest agree with you, the system is fantastic, the only thing i dont like there is like u say, it should have an option to conect the phone by bluetooth without remote SIM Card, i mean as normal old systems to be compatible with all phones at all.

scrapbook
17-10-2010, 03:20 PM
Hi guys, first time poster.

Does anyone know the difference between a manufacturers fit of the bluetooth for the RCD510 and a dealer fit as there is quite a difference in the cost?

They have a version of teh car i want in stock but without the bluetooth option i was seeking. If i go for the stock model obvioulsy there is will only be a two week wait as opposed to 2 or 3 months for a manufactured car.

redrolo
13-11-2010, 12:15 PM
Retrofit one off Ebay. Saves you a bucket load of cash

redrolo
13-11-2010, 12:18 PM
Hello.

i have a VW Golf with RCD510+Bluetooth kit
Agree in almost all you say but in bluetooth kit i had problems with my old phone ( LG GT 505) and in the time i ended in buy a new one, but there's allways some updates that u can make in phone because all the phone needs to have is an option called "Remote SIM Card" the Samsung have it but it comes turned off so u just need turn it on, i have a Samsung H1 atm and works.

My old LG phone had the option but it wasnt available in software, so checked ( ALOT) around web and found some update and it works. but its a risk cause some u can mess up the phone also with those updates.

Since Remote SIM Card is an old thing at phones most part of phones can work there.

All the rest agree with you, the system is fantastic, the only thing i dont like there is like u say, it should have an option to conect the phone by bluetooth without remote SIM Card, i mean as normal old systems to be compatible with all phones at all.
I have just fitted the updated VW Premium Bluetooth which worked with both my RSAP enabled Blackberry phones and my personal iphone. It also has the bluetooth audio streaming so I can play my tracks off my phone through the head unit.

Got to be said, its a really good bit of updated kit

scrapbook
14-11-2010, 03:41 PM
Retrofit one off Ebay. Saves you a bucket load of cash

Do you have a link of the sort of thing I should be looking for?

Is it just a module that fits to the rear of the unit?

redrolo
14-11-2010, 11:03 PM
Do you have a link of the sort of thing I should be looking for?

Is it just a module that fits to the rear of the unit?


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170519379563&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT is the one I fitted.

TimS996
10-02-2011, 03:52 PM
Just to update this thread...

I'm thinking of installing the RCD510 to replace the RCD300 in my Golf. I would have liked to have the bluetooth working, but as I understand it:-

1 - I need to pay aroun 300-400 for the VW BT kit
2 - It won't work with my HTC Desire or other Andriod phone
3 - I'd save a lot of money simply having a Parrot kit attached to it instead

Is this about right or have some changes been made?
I would like it all to be fully functional but saving about 300 by having a Parrot kit, which does work with my phone seems to make more sense.

m11ckx
10-02-2011, 04:06 PM
samsung galaxy s works great, it gives people who have both mobile and landline number an icon so you can see which is which

TimS996
10-02-2011, 04:11 PM
I think you can install the Fiscon BT kit instead for around 400! But it works with everything.

firefly2008
13-02-2011, 11:20 AM
Just to update this thread...

I'm thinking of installing the RCD510 to replace the RCD300 in my Golf. I would have liked to have the bluetooth working, but as I understand it:-

1 - I need to pay aroun 300-400 for the VW BT kit
2 - It won't work with my HTC Desire or other Andriod phone
3 - I'd save a lot of money simply having a Parrot kit attached to it instead

Is this about right or have some changes been made?
I would like it all to be fully functional but saving about 300 by having a Parrot kit, which does work with my phone seems to make more sense.

Hi Tim. I just upgraded my old Nokia (which worked beautifully with the RCD unit) to a lovely htc Desire (which is 'not compatible' when you try to pair it. damn!!

on a Skoda forum it says how to install an rSAP patch to make the car see the phone, but the htc simply rejects the CAB file type (cannot open).

now, don't want three phones (I have been routing my works htc Touch through my paired Nokia prior to upgrade, as the rSAP option shuts down the Satnav and other Windows packages i need operating in the Touch if you pair that phone), so need a solution to get the Desire paired!!

someone MUST know a fix... can i buy an upgrade to the car kit? install another patch?? unblock something in the phone?? pull some wires out of the car!!!?? HELP! :aargh4:

thanks

oh and the Skoda site for anyone interested: http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/117938-howto-get-rsap-working-with-the-columbus-rns510-using-a-non-compatible-mobile/page__st__60

TimS996
13-02-2011, 03:07 PM
yes the only options with the RCD 510 or RNS 510 to get a modern phone working is to conect a Parrot kit or have the Fiscon BT kit installed to have the headunit fully working and with no add-ons in sight. Only problem is that it is the best part of £400!! With a parrot kit at £100 it's a choice between savings a lot of money or having the headunit fully functional.

firefly2008
13-02-2011, 03:19 PM
yes the only options with the RCD 510 or RNS 510 to get a modern phone working is to conect a Parrot kit or have the Fiscon BT kit installed to have the headunit fully working and with no add-ons in sight. Only problem is that it is the best part of £400!! With a parrot kit at £100 it's a choice between savings a lot of money or having the headunit fully functional.

Tim, have a look at my other (new) thread on the subject, there may be a small glimmer of hope in the near future with the possibility of an App coming for Desire users...

failing that, I will ask Virgin for a 2nd SIM and power up the Nokia brick again, just to leave it in the car!! how maddening...

TimS996
13-02-2011, 03:36 PM
I was planning on installing the Kenwood unit that VW are selling, but emailed them first to check compatability.

Oddly Kenwood say the HTC Desire is not on their list of compatible phones which is strange as they are using Parrot BT in it and my Parrot kit in my wifes car works perfectly well.

Other thing is, the Kenwood is not and will not be DAB compatible, whilst the RCD510 is/can be as and when VW release the bits, so a bit more future proof.

Had a look at your other thread. I know what you mean.,
Have to say I think the Desire is too good to bin, a Nokia on the other hand:mad:

I think I might have to stick a basic Parrot kit on for now. In about six months the Fiscon BT kit should be cheaper and will work.

MikeRead
27-02-2011, 02:13 PM
Hi,
I'm new to this forum, so this is my first reply. I've just purchased an ex-demonstrator Golf GT (Sept 10) with the RCD 510. I also have a HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire (Wifes).

Both of these phones paired with the unit and the unit has full access to the phone functions.

Both phones are uptodate on software patches.

HTH

Mike

firefly2008
27-02-2011, 04:39 PM
Hi,
I'm new to this forum, so this is my first reply. I've just purchased an ex-demonstrator Golf GT (Sept 10) with the RCD 510. I also have a HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire (Wifes).

Both of these phones paired with the unit and the unit has full access to the phone functions.

Both phones are uptodate on software patches.

HTH

Mike

Mike I think you must have struck lucky, either with car or phone, as no one else seems to have achieved this, as phone does not support rsap. What Bluetooth settings have you enabled on the Desire?

MikeRead
27-02-2011, 05:20 PM
Hi,

Just the standard bluetooth settings. Nothing special! I did ask the garage when I tested the car as I read there were problems and he said something about it not being rsap but hands free profile???

Anyway - it just connected and worked,

TimS996
27-02-2011, 05:51 PM
Well I've now had the RCD510 and Parrot CK3100 fitted and very happy with both!

Much better sound quality, works well with the HTC and very cheap compared to the VW kit.

firefly2008
27-02-2011, 07:23 PM
Well you've done well with yours. perhaps new vw has different system or It's been configured differently. do You get text messages on dash? voice dialling? Which dealership did You buy your 10 plate from, as they may know something my dealer doesn't.

MikeRead
27-02-2011, 10:08 PM
Well you've done well with yours. perhaps new vw has different system or It's been configured differently. do You get text messages on dash? voice dialling? Which dealership did You buy your 10 plate from, as they may know something my dealer doesn't.

Hi,

I dont get text messages or voice dialing. It was purchased from Bath Volkswagen.

My HTC desire HD is about 2 months old.

Android : 2.2.1
Baseband: 12.28e.60.140fu_26.04.02.17_m2
kernel: 2.6.32.21-g1e30168
Fri Dec 10 18:43
build 1.75.161.2 CL301245

HTH

Mike

theoc
05-03-2011, 08:03 AM
I've had my RCD 510 with premium bluetooth working well for over a year my Passat CC. It is paired with an HTC touch. It operates as it should with full SW control and vioce dilling.

Only problem is reception is quite poor to the extent that I normally have to redail constantly. Has anyone else had this problem. It's a retrofit not factory installed. The aerial is through the heated winscreen. Any help appreciated

firefly2008
12-04-2011, 11:02 AM
:::SOLUTION:::
Guys, there is now a solution for Android and rsap access... a clever chap called Martin has released an app you can install... his website once again is http://www.android-rsap.com/

see my original thread "how can you pair htc Desire with VW installed car kit" for the full details. My htc Desire is now FULLY compatible. thanks then! (note he has not solved the HD version yet!)

A

firefly2008
12-04-2011, 11:06 AM
I've had my RCD 510 with premium bluetooth working well for over a year my Passat CC. It is paired with an HTC touch. It operates as it should with full SW control and vioce dilling.

Only problem is reception is quite poor to the extent that I normally have to redail constantly. Has anyone else had this problem. It's a retrofit not factory installed. The aerial is through the heated winscreen. Any help appreciated

Yep, I have a work htc Touch Cruise. it uses Windows software and the Nokia rsap unit seems to tolerate this. my issue has been other winsows based software in that phone, such as GPS, TomTom and workbased messaging, are all shut off when it pairs. I now route calls from this phone through my htc Desire, with the only downside being a dial-out call costs ME money!! soon learn not to dial though ;)

not sure how to improve reception. the roof mount aeriel on Passat is excellent. if yours is retro fitted, you may need to talk to an expert about options. sorry

RED_
12-10-2011, 06:06 AM
This is the exact system i plan on buying and installing. An RCD510 and the Bluetooth system. Never done anything like this before since i only just got the car. i'll probably take it to a local garage to do it for me since i don't have the vagcom software. Seems to be some good deals on ebay. Saw a RCD510 with DAB for £300 not too long ago. Bit annoying that i have to pay another £200+ for the bluetooth module and even then i have to find out if my android phone is compatible.

Are there any idiot proof guides out there on installing these parts? Seems like a lot of work when you think about it but VW charge a stupid price, close to £1000 to buy/fit this stuff which is insane.

I might install it myself and then find someone who has the vagcom software to code it, something i definitely can't do.

philpugh
24-02-2012, 05:33 PM
With the 510 if you have 'ordinary' CD's then unless they have CD-Text information burned on them you won't get artist/track info. If you burn your own with NERO or similar there should be an option to do this. Some newer commercial CDs are supplied with the info For MP3 CDs and SD card you should get all the information on the 510 and the DIS unit. I retrofitted first my POLO (new model) and now my new Passat CC ('58) with a 510 DAB unit. It works well. Have you checked all the settings in the 510 - you can choose to set the track/Title/Artist info OFF.

I'm having problems wit the FISCON Basic+ BT handsfree kit I installed as it won't pull the phonebook through. The phone works well in my wife's TIGUAN 510 with the VW BT unit - so it's def. the FISCON unit that is the problem here. I can manually sync the phonebook ovedr the BT connection - so it is usable. And it sounds great too.

vc-10
14-03-2013, 11:18 PM
How easily is the system operated without a MFSW and highline cluster, using just the RCD510? I'm thinking about ditching my ancient 9n for a 6r Polo, and I'd like Bluetooth. The RCD510s are pretty easily available for not a huge amount on eBay, but finding a Polo with the MFSW is pretty tricky, and only the BlueGT and GTI have highline clusters, and I'll be going for something TDI anyway! I don't really like the idea of having an ugly Parrot thing sticking out of the dash, nor the hideous 'Bluetooth wart' that VW have been putting in them recently.

Teflon
01-08-2013, 06:08 PM
How easily is the system operated without a MFSW and highline cluster, using just the RCD510? I'm thinking about ditching my ancient 9n for a 6r Polo, and I'd like Bluetooth. The RCD510s are pretty easily available for not a huge amount on eBay, but finding a Polo with the MFSW is pretty tricky, and only the BlueGT and GTI have highline clusters, and I'll be going for something TDI anyway! I don't really like the idea of having an ugly Parrot thing sticking out of the dash, nor the hideous 'Bluetooth wart' that VW have been putting in them recently.
Why not try what I did on my wife's car?

I fitted a Parrot kit, but with their MultiCAN add-on to replace the Parrot head unit. It plugs into the back of the radio like any Bluetooth kit, plays through the speakers, mutes the music etc. It works with the steering wheel button completely seamlessly and the gubbins is all hidden behind the dash. If you have voice activation on your phone you can just ask for any name or number by pushing a steering wheel button.