Chipping

[bealem]

Does anyone know if it is possible to chip the 2.0 tdi 143 to increase performance?

[SportyB8]

Does anyone know if it is possible to chip the 2.0 tdi 143 to increase performance?

I contacted Superchips about this and they confirmed that there is something in development (Bluefin) but that it's not ready yet and they don't have a completion date. :(

[DobarDabar]

Hi, ABT is doing ecu mapping. They have two variants 170hp and I dont know exactly but about 200hp. Have a look at their site. Price is about 1500€.

[steve1234]

Hi, my car was tuned by MTM about 2 months ago at their their main premises in Germany. It now has about 185bhp and greatly increased Torque. The fuel economy seems good as well. The product is still under development and they think when it is finalised it will give about 205 - 210 bhp so mine will be returning then!!!! (I am fortunate as I have a very good trade contact in the German Motor Trade who can pretty much get me anything!!) - I guess the finished product will not be cheap but you do get a nice shiney badge which looks good on my cars boot!!!

Alternatively, give Gary at AVACS in Alton Hampshire a call. He'll be able to program somthing called a "DPT" box for you. This plugs in line at the end of the injector rail and gives great results. About 35bhp more, greatly improved torque and better economy. I know he has fitted at least one to a B8 before with great results and has the software specifically for the car. The great thing is, he can program it and post it to you as it is simply plug and play!!!! Good guy as well so will do you a deal, he may even do you a "trial period" deal which is worth a punt??!!!

I highly recommend giving it a go though, it transforms the drivability of the car.

[Yoda]

You may also want to consider BSR from Sweden. They have these awesome PPC boxes. Read more about the BSR PPC here http://en.bsr.se/products/ppc/

The price is around 800-900 euros. They don't have the PPC box for the new CR 143bhp and 170bhp engines but they will be available later.

[dorgan]

That PPC box would be ideal for me. I have a lease car so good to be able to revert to the original settings. I recall another company doing such a product also. Forget the name though.

[VanWheeler]

Hi There,

We can tune these up to about 190hp and 290lb/ft, we have done quite a few of these out our rolling road days.

We have one coming up on the 4th August, £250 with before and after readings on the rollers.

Thanks, Mark

[VanWheeler]

I can also do you an ST3, which has 2 modified maps and the Ability to put the car back to Standard. You get a choice of 2 of the following Eco, Fast road and Race maps.

Price for this is £525, But forum members get 10% discount on this price.

Thanks, Mark

[dorgan]

Mark, do you have something for the B8 2.0 TDi yet? How much extra power can you squeeze out of it and how much would it cost? As you can see I'm over here in Luxembourg so driving to your rolling road is a no-no :)

[VanWheeler]

LOL, sorry missed the fact your are in Luxembourg.

I can do you an ST3 unit for £495.

With this you get 2 modified maps, the abuility to put the car back to standard whenever you like and it all reads and clears error codes.

You can have a choice of 2 of these 3.

Eco +20hp +60nm
Fast Road +30hp +80nm
Race +45hp + 105nm

And when you get your next car you put your current car back to standard and then you purchase new mod files at £100 +vat each.

Thanks, Mark

[tanderson]

Mark,

Any chance of doing some days in Scotland?

[VanWheeler]

It's a bit of a trek for me, but I know of some tuners up there who may be interested.

Leave it with me.

Thanks, Mark

[kevspi]

Is the £250 for the b8 2.0tdi?? I want to come along if it is :D Anyone in the know please?

Sorry if i've missed something on an earlier message?

[SportyB8]

What would happen if you tried to change the map on a car with Drive Select?

I like being able to change the performance of the car at the press of a button, it would be nice to think that a new map could be applied to the 'Dynamic' setting while leaving the other options as they are.

Anyone know?

Thanks

[Sheroo]

Hi Mark,

I'n interested in the ST3 for my 2.0 TDI, just some questions:

How often can the ECU be flashed ? Am thinking of reflashing when the service is due to get the car back to normal and then back ?

Is there a risk of the flash crashing half way through ? What are the repercussions ?

Will this flashing effect other functions ?

How easy is it to flash myself ?

Thanks in advance.

[stewartt997]

This may be a daft question - but if there are software upgrades by Audi carried out at servicing will these devices still work ok.

My question is - does the mapping device back-up the cars own software mapping, or is it a standard set-up already loaded onto the re-mapping device? If the latter I assume Audi could get suspiscious when they next log on to the car?

[VanWheeler]

Is the £250 for the b8 2.0tdi?? I want to come along if it is :D Anyone in the know please?

Sorry if i've missed something on an earlier message?


Hi Kev,

For a remap it is £250 with before and afters.

Thanks, Mark

[VanWheeler]

answers in Blue


Hi Mark,

I'n interested in the ST3 for my 2.0 TDI, just some questions:

How often can the ECU be flashed ? Am thinking of reflashing when the service is due to get the car back to normal and then back ?
As many times as you want.

Is there a risk of the flash crashing half way through ? What are the repercussions ?
These are very reliable units and there is minimal risk of this happening, you could cause this by pulling the cable out half way through. If however it does, you can try the flash again. Worst case scenario we will come and fix the car.

Will this flashing effect other functions ?
No, all will fuction the same, except the car which will be faster.

How easy is it to flash myself ?
Very easy, just have to follow the step-by-step instructions

Thanks in advance.

[VanWheeler]

This may be a daft question - but if there are software upgrades by Audi carried out at servicing will these devices still work ok.

My question is - does the mapping device back-up the cars own software mapping, or is it a standard set-up already loaded onto the re-mapping device? If the latter I assume Audi could get suspiscious when they next log on to the car?

If audi update the SW for the car we will supply you with new mod files to match the new SW.

Thanks, Mark

[tanderson]

Hi Mark,

Comparing the ST3 to you tuning the car directly the ST3 must be a compromise I guess as each engine will be slightly different.

What sort of variance have you found and how much of a compromise?

(Thinking might be a way to get the results yo have suggested without coming down to you!)

Thanks

Tim

[VanWheeler]

Hi Tim,

The ST3 is as good as us tuning the car for you, we can offer custom remaps with the ST3 to take any mods into account.

Every car varries even if it is the same model and year, for example we have had 2 130pd, bith put out around 127 on the rollers, we done pretty much the same on both and one came out at 180 and the other at 187.

This is not a compromise, you are still getting our software for your car, just 2 levels of your choice and with the flexibility to switch between maps.

Thanks, Mark

[tanderson]

Thanks Mark,

Unless you can come up with someone in Scotland, the ST3 may be the best option.

Just 2 thoughts
1. Silly I know, but the ST3 unit itself - does power come from car, and is it very simple (ie no tools required) to do? (a4 B8 2.0 td1 143)
2. Is it best to run the engine in before tuning - make any difference/ And if so how many miles

Tim

[DobarDabar]

Hi Mark,

I'm also a proud owner of A4 2.0 TDI 143 and I'm from Croatia. Is it possible for me to get ST3?
Does this remap affect exhaust system i.e. higher emissions, Im not an expert but will catalyst have shorter lifespan?
Can guys from Audi service see that ECU has been remapped?
What is about fuel consumption?

And thank you for being so helpful.

Best regards.

[philc.]

count me in for the 2/08 i will phone to confirm

[VanWheeler]

Thanks Mark,

Unless you can come up with someone in Scotland, the ST3 may be the best option.

Just 2 thoughts
1. Silly I know, but the ST3 unit itself - does power come from car, and is it very simple (ie no tools required) to do? (a4 B8 2.0 td1 143)
2. Is it best to run the engine in before tuning - make any difference/ And if so how many miles

Tim

1. The St3 runs off the 12v power from the diagnostic port.
2. Obviouly the car will get quicker as iot gets run in, but there are no issue with mapping a new car, but persoanlly i'd give it a few thousand miles.

[VanWheeler]

Hi Mark,

I'm also a proud owner of A4 2.0 TDI 143 and I'm from Croatia. Is it possible for me to get ST3?
Does this remap affect exhaust system i.e. higher emissions, Im not an expert but will catalyst have shorter lifespan?
Can guys from Audi service see that ECU has been remapped?
What is about fuel consumption?

And thank you for being so helpful.

Best regards.

Hi,

Yes I an supply you with an St3 no problem

Emmisions if anythig should be lower as the car is running at optimallevels.

Audi can tell, plus the ST3 allows you to put the car back to standard.#

Depending on what level of map you go for you can see up top 5mpg more, but we could do you a economy map and a fast road or race map and you can switch between the 2 as and when you like.

Hope this helps,

Thanks, Mark

[VanWheeler]

count me in for the 2/08 i will phone to confirm


Counted! :beerchug:

[tanderson]

Thanks Mark,

will be in touch in a couple of months!

Tim

[muni]

hi i have just joined but i have just ordered a new a4 2.0 tdi s line, there are so many chips to pick from what about tunit?

[B6Andy101]

Speaking to an Audi Dealer over the weekend (seemed very clued up) regarding remaps. Apparently the Audi Main desler will install an MTM remap, as long as it is done by the dealer the Warranty remains valid. This pushes the 143 TDi up to 177. He couldn't give an exact price but thought around £850.

There are warranty issues if anyone else remaps (apparently). This seems a good way to get performance if you have a lease vehicle and do not want the higer CO2 figure 'as delivered' for tax reasons.

The only difference between the 143 and 170TDi (I am advised) is the injectors and the mapping.

Anyone done this yet.

(Oh it was Glasgow Audi)

[neilb]

very interesting, price sounds about right and I presume the remap is noted on the VAG HQ data base so that any future software updates do not overwrite the map back to 143TDi.

nlb.

[belly buster]

Would be interested in this but would like to hear some feedback from punters first before committing.

BB

[tanderson]

Looks quite expensive compared to a software remap.

Any remappers/chippers out there care to offer an opinion on the comparative beneits and downsides of chipping and remapping?

[Devlish]

Is there any ST3 program for the 2.0 TDI 143 yet ??

[tanderson]

see earlier in this thread!

[Ramon959]

What about the 2.0 Tfsi 180&211bhp with the bluefin - what price and result?

[gnokleby]

What about the 2.0 Tfsi 180&211bhp with the bluefin - what price and result?

Got this from www.chipcenter.cc (http://www.chipcenter.cc)

2,0T FSI 180hk 08-
Steg 1 2,0T FSI 180hk
Org effekt: 180hk/320Nm.
Steg 1: 245hk/370Nm.
Styrsystem: Bosch MED.17.

Pris: 9.495,00 kr SEK

Same data for the 211hk version.

[A1exp]

Has anybody bought an ST3 for a 143 TDi yet?

If so, any comments?

Does the ST3 reset the ECU flash count or will it be obvious to Audi service that it's been flashed?

Has anybody had the official MTM remap applied or investigated further?

[VanWheeler]

ST3 is not avaialble for the 143 yet, currently in development.

Thanks, Mark

[Plife]

ST3 is not avaialble for the 143 yet, currently in development.

Thanks, Mark
Are you working on the 2.0T??

[VanWheeler]

Are you working on the 2.0T??

This has been avaialble since the launch.

Give me a call on 07756 190026.

Thanks, Mark

[A1exp]

That's discrimination against diesel drivers!

[VanWheeler]

That's discrimination against diesel drivers!


LOL, unfortunately VAG group seem to think they need to chage their ECU's every few years. Keeps us on our toes.

Plus I could have been wrong about the new 2.0T. looking into it.

Cheers, Mark