R8 vs Ferrari 430

[wt888]

Has anyone driven both the R8 and Ferrari 430? How do the two compare ?

[MGaz]

only in my GT4 dreams.. :D

[cmcb a3]

audi will need less servicing and wont melt in the rain!

[wt888]

audi will need less servicing and wont melt in the rain!

Which one? I have heard that the R8 is not cheap to run.

[beach]

there is only 1 R8 at the moment the v8 petrol
v12 diesel not confirmed yet, v10 petrol is though.

[wt888]

there is only 1 R8 at the moment the v8 petrol
v12 diesel not confirmed yet, v10 petrol is though.

any chance the V12 will sound like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ7sXZL2X9A

[MalcQV]

A 430 will always be a better car than the R8 to drive/own because it is why Ferrari exist. They exist to race cars, though I would admit that it is a business they have never sold bread and butter cars.

An Audi R8 is a gorgeous very capable car I am sure, but Audi have only just started building supercars.

I would have any Ferrari over the R8 (money aside). If someone offered me an R8 for free I would sell it, buy myself an F355 and RS4 or S4 with the change for my daily and still have the glorious sound the R8 makes with the practicality of the A4 :p. I would keep the 430 for high days and holidays and not get it wet for fear it would melt :D (though being brand new it won't)

The 430 with a Tubi or Capristo exhaust is something else, not to mention a 430 Scuderia.

This is IMHO of course.

[Crasher]

An Audi or a posh Fiat, humm-let me see :D

[wt888]

An Audi or a posh Fiat, humm-let me see :D

To be fair, a Volkswagen Audi or a Fiat Ferrari.

Per below, not bad for a Fiat.

F40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nn-8UhQq6c

[MalcQV]

To be fair, a Volkswagen Audi or a Fiat Ferrari.

Per below, not bad for a Fiat.

F40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nn-8UhQq6c

:p:p Or a Beetle Audi :D
The F40 is cracking car but I much prefer the 288GTO (http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre5/ferrari/288_gto/1984_ferrari_288_gto_03_m.jpg) which was the base for F40 more. (http://www.bcgator.net/Images/MattelFerrariGTO/Ferrari288GTOPhotoREAL.jpg).

[wt888]

I have never been that big of a fan of the 288 GTO. It just looks to similar to the 308. Same problem with the Porsche 959 and 911.

[wt888]

any idea on how R* values are holding up vs. 430 prices which are dropping like a rock?

[MalcQV]

They along with all exclusive and luxury cars are dropping too.

A 10k miles R8 for £60k on Autotrader.

[wt888]

They along with all exclusive and luxury cars are dropping too.

A 10k miles R8 for £60k on Autotrader.

What was the original list price ?

[MalcQV]

What was the original list price ?

£75k (ish) loss of £15k
F430 £130k 2 2006 car worth 17k about £112k. Have seen them as low as £100k.

so R8 loss of 20%

Ferrari 24% all rough figures not much in it. Oh and I would have the 430 any day of the week, pure thoroughbred with a proper heritage. Though I may have the R8 (without CF blades :D) to knock around in :D

[wt888]

£75k (ish) loss of £15k
F430 £130k 2 2006 car worth 17k about £112k. Have seen them as low as £100k.

so R8 loss of 20%

Ferrari 24% all rough figures not much in it. Oh and I would have the 430 any day of the week, pure thoroughbred with a proper heritage. Though I may have the R8 (without CF blades :D) to knock around in :D

All in it looks like the R8 is holding value well. Especially compared to Astons.

[MalcQV]

All in it looks like the R8 is holding value well. Especially compared to Astons.

It is a bad time, course if it was me, Aston, Ferrari or R8 I would keep hold of until this financial crap sorts out. I do think the R8 could be a bit of an investment though. See Ferrari are now sort of mass producing the 430, Audi might but if Porsche get the contolling percentage they may well can the R8 since it is a big threat to the 911. Would be a shame on one hand but think how exclusive your R8 would be.

[wt888]

It is a bad time, course if it was me, Aston, Ferrari or R8 I would keep hold of until this financial crap sorts out. I do think the R8 could be a bit of an investment though. See Ferrari are now sort of mass producing the 430, Audi might but if Porsche get the contolling percentage they may well can the R8 since it is a big threat to the 911. Would be a shame on one hand but think how exclusive your R8 would be.

Any idea how many R8s Audi intends to produce ?

[MalcQV]

Any idea how many R8s Audi intends to produce ?

I don't know for the R8. Can get access to 430's built but certainly not how many they intend to build.

[wt888]

I don't know for the R8. Can get access to 430's built but certainly not how many they intend to build.

Is the V10 R8 still going into production ?

[MalcQV]

Sure there was something in Jan. TG mag. Don't know for sure the answer.

[joz119]

audi will need less servicing and wont melt in the rain!
lol audi 4 life :aargh4:

[franki68]

Has anyone driven both the R8 and Ferrari 430? How do the two compare ?

I own an r8 and tested a 430 extensively when I was looking to replace my 997 turbo.
I ended up buying the r8 for several reasons,but here are my thoughts on the two.

To get in and drive the 430 is the more exciting car.The steering is scalpel sharp,the engine is ferocious and sounds utterly amazing.
But the ferrari is a car to keep in the garage and take out once a week on a blast.It is extremely expensive to run ..the audi is very cheap for this sort of car...I have had mine 2 years and the only cost (aside from the milltek I fitted) is a service £400 and 2 tyres( due to punctures not wear).A ferrari of any sorts for 2 years would cost maybe £3-4k.
The audi handles better,and I prefer the steering.The audi is built better and gets a better reaction than a ferrari (whilst driving the ferrari I got 2 ****** signs in an 1hr and 1/2 test drive.The audi only gets positive reaction.
I use the r8 every single day ...and the reliability has been exceptional.I have prior to the r8 run a 997c2s,an m6 and a 997 turbo all of which had major problems (the 997 turbo I made porsche buy back off me..in 1 year of ownership it was off the road for 3/4 of the time)
The ferrari is more special to drive,but I wanted a car to use everyday....the r8 matches the porsche 997s at being the only supercar you can use every day.
The audi is just magnificent ...and on many tests has lapped various racetracks faster than the 430.
I drove another 430 recently and when I got back into the r8 I felt happy that I had made the right choice.
Of course there is brand snobbery to take into account,but taking evrything into account the audi is the better car.
TBH I am looking possibly to replace the r8 ,but having driven pretty much everything recently (lambos,maserati,the new 997s ) and have not found anything I prefer to the r8,so I will keep the r8 for another year or two and possibly chip it...the milltekand chip will give it about 450bhp which equates to a power to weight of 300bhp/ton which is serious performance..

[MalcQV]

Excellent write up and opinion Franki.
I believe you summed the Ferrari vs R8 to a Tee ;)

I would buy the Ferrari everytime but as you said it would always be a toy for the weekend. The R8 I am sure is a very usable and a superb unique car.

Anyway back to reality and a VW Passat :p

[turbo'sforsale]

i have the pleasure ov driving r8's (v8 and v10) all i will say is i done a red letter day and drove a 430 it was imense but i preffer the v10 r8 as it is as quick better inside and ferrari =mid life crisis i can pick faults in both but not as many in the r8 but in all fairness the ferrari give alot more feedback through steering but is not as forgiving both awsome cars either i would own but to pay my own money i would have a 977turbo