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MGaz
01-02-2008, 02:11 AM
i'm wondering where can i buy a CAM for my 2.2L KV 5 cylinder?i know PIPER cams do one, but i was wondering if i could buy one from any other company's? At maybe a cheaper price?
anyone know of a UK/European or US/Canada company selling CAMS for the 2.2 KV?


Also interested in head work, i remember there was once a post on another forum with a company advertising a gas flowed big valve head for a 5 cylinder, complete with CAM.
but i can't find it any more http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif. i think the company's name began with 'B' ?? lol

if not, how much would i pay for just a port and polish?


EDIT: i drive a 1987 audi coupe quattro. 5 cylinder 2.2L 10valve non turbo. it has the KV engine.
scotty33
01-02-2008, 05:59 PM
Blau cams seem fairly popular on the US forums. I'm fairly sure eurospec offer cams for the 10 and 20v 5 cylinder.
034efi could probably do something for you, not sure how the pricing would be?
Crasher (on here) also offers these services
Crasher
01-02-2008, 06:40 PM
I only use a mild Schrick cam (such as the 0064 01 721-02) on the KU/KV. I tried the Piper and Kent profiles on a 2.3 KU that I built for our 100 Avant and I didn't like them so all the customer 2.3's and 2.5's I build always get the Schrick. On the head, I do a double big valve conversion with 40-mm inlet (over 38-mm) and 35-mm exhaust (over 33-mm) and that makes an incredible difference. Building a 2.3 is really easy if you have the engine out, it is just a 2-mm oversize re-bore and gives you 2337cc. 2.5 is quite easy as well but costs more due to the expensive crank.
MGaz
02-02-2008, 03:48 PM
I only use a mild Schrick cam (such as the 0064 01 721-02) on the KU/KV. I tried the Piper and Kent profiles on a 2.3 KU that I built for our 100 Avant and I didn't like them so all the customer 2.3's and 2.5's I build always get the Schrick. On the head, I do a double big valve conversion with 40-mm inlet (over 38-mm) and 35-mm exhaust (over 33-mm) and that makes an incredible difference. Building a 2.3 is really easy if you have the engine out, it is just a 2-mm oversize re-bore and gives you 2337cc. 2.5 is quite easy as well but costs more due to the expensive crank.

cheers. :beerchug:

one question.
how much? :D
Crasher
02-02-2008, 05:44 PM
For the double big valve head and valves built up ready for cam and lifters you are looking at just under a grand.
MGaz
02-02-2008, 05:51 PM
For the double big valve head and valves built up ready for cam and lifters you are looking at just under a grand.



could that head then be fitted to a turbo engine?


how much just for the 2.5 conversion?
Crasher
02-02-2008, 05:56 PM
That conversion could be applied to a turbo head casting. I can't remember the price for a 2.5 short block but I think it is in the £4000 area. I have got to build one in the next few weeks.
MGaz
08-02-2008, 05:04 AM
That conversion could be applied to a turbo head casting. I can't remember the price for a 2.5 short block but I think it is in the £4000 area. I have got to build one in the next few weeks.


that's acctually quite a lot of money. :(

how much just for the 2300+ increase instead? and what sort of gain will i expect with that alone?


cheers so much for your help so far. :1zhelp: :Blush:
S2AVANT
09-02-2008, 01:23 AM
You can get a full 20v turbo conversion for £1500.
MGaz
10-02-2008, 08:43 PM
You can get a full 20v turbo conversion for £1500.


:D

is that price cover the engine and fitting/work? all plumbed up loomed and ready to go? :beerchug:


plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tell me more!
S2AVANT
10-02-2008, 09:09 PM
:D

is that price cover the engine and fitting/work? all plumbed up loomed and ready to go? :beerchug:


plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tell me more!

That's for a 20v turbo 3b engine complete and loom.
MGaz
12-02-2008, 01:32 AM
That's for a 20v turbo 3b engine complete and loom.


just cost of engine?


what about cost of fitting?


anyone on here whos had this done?
S2AVANT
12-02-2008, 10:43 AM
just cost of engine?


what about cost of fitting?


anyone on here whos had this done?
Engine and loom with ECU.
How handy are you with a spanner? You could do it in a week.
I have a friend who has done this into a 7A 20v coupe quattro.
MGaz
21-02-2008, 01:24 AM
Engine and loom with ECU.
How handy are you with a spanner? You could do it in a week.
I have a friend who has done this into a 7A 20v coupe quattro.


yea.. but how strait forward is it fitting a 20v Turbo in to a car that use to have a 10v?


i like the idea of 20vT power but would my transmission handle it?
wouldn't a 10v Turbo bolt strait in with a lot less fuss?


And how much would i pay for a 5cyl 10vTurbo? (200bhp spec) and where would i find one?


cheers.. :)


(ps) what about things like the rad? can i leave the standard one in place? or will it need the doner car's rad? :confused:
S2AVANT
21-02-2008, 05:48 PM
The complete setup is up for sale on the S2forum
AZMAN is selling it including the crossmember and intercooler
£900
You have to be registered to view for sale items.
He fitted that into his car which I think was a twenty valve previously.
Your gearbox / drivetrain will laugh at it, if they are in good order.
Your brakes won't like it.
Your radiator will be fine. The S2 comes with an aux rad. Quite a few people have removed them and don't have any ill affects.