Alternatives to Quattro

[toff]

Hi,

Having had a few VWs with 4-Motion and my S6 with Quattro, I'd be loathed to get a car without 4 wheel drive.

What other makes of 2nd hand hatch or saloon can you buy (for under £10k) with 4x4 please?

The only other one I can find is the Volvo V50..

Cheers - Alex.

[RickT]

Hi,

Having had a few VWs with 4-Motion and my S6 with Quattro, I'd be loathed to get a car without 4 wheel drive.

What other makes of 2nd hand hatch or saloon can you buy (for under £10k) with 4x4 please?

The only other one I can find is the Volvo V50..

Cheers - Alex.

Well my choice was the V50 AWD..

You can pick up a decent enough Subrau Impreza Or an Evo with 4x4 for around 10k..

You could also get a S3 from around 2000 for 10k now

Fiat Panda 4X4 :biglaugh:

I will have a think on this one!!

Rick

[Desertfish]

FIAT: = Failed Italian Automotive Technology... Nuf said :biglaugh:

[Captain Answer]

Hi,

Having had a few VWs with 4-Motion and my S6 with Quattro, I'd be loathed to get a car without 4 wheel drive.

What other makes of 2nd hand hatch or saloon can you buy (for under £10k) with 4x4 please?

The only other one I can find is the Volvo V50..

Cheers - Alex.

Is the 4-motion the one that waits until theres a loss in grip to the rear axle before cutting in the 4wd?

[Captain Answer]

FIAT: = Failed Italian Automotive Technology... Nuf said :biglaugh:

FIAT = Fixing It Again Today :beerchug:

[Ben]

FIAT = Fixing It Again Today :beerchug:
Fix It Again Tomorrow

and ford is

Fix Or Repair Daily

and lotus

Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious

[prolfe]

The bigger SUV/4x4's are quite obvious.

1995 skyline
2000 Land Rover Defender 2.5 TDS
2004 X Type 2.5 SE
2003 X Type 3.0 SE
2005 Octavia 2.0 FSI
2005 Subaru Legacy Sports Tourer
2003 Subaru Outback 3.0
2007 Dodge RAM 2500 SLT 5.7 Hemi
2004 V70 2.4
2001 TT
2003 Mercedes ML320 Lux Pack
1990 RS Cosworth 89k
1993 Sierra RS Cosworth 52k
1992 Lancia Delta Integrale 130,000km
2002 Lexus RX300 3.0 SE

[Desertfish]

Fix It Again Tomorrow

and ford is

Fix Or Repair Daily

and lotus

Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious


Hah...!!! You want more...???

ACURA: Always Catching Up, Rarely Ahead
AMC: Always Made Crap
AUDI: Accelerates Under Demonic Influence
BMW: Big Money Waster
BUICK: Big Ugly Indestructible Car Killer
CADILLAC: Company Always Denies Its Lawful Liability After Collisions
CAMARO: Cash Always Miniscule After Retail Overpricing
CHEVROLET: Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
CHRYSLER: Company Has Recommended You Start Learning Engine Repair
DAEWOO: Damn All Engines With Oriental Operations
DODGE: Drips Oil, Drops Grease Everywhere
FERRARI: Ferociously Elegant Racer Ravages All Roads Intuitively
FIAT: Found In A Trashcan
FORD: Found On Rubbish Dump
FORD THUNDERBIRD: This Hoopty Usually Needs Daily Engine Repair But It Rolls Downhill
FORD MUSTANG: Motor Usually Starts Then Almost Never Goes
GM: General Misery
GMC: Greatest Mistake Created
HONDA: Had One, Never Did Again
HYUNDAI: Hope You Understand Nothing's Drivable And Inexpensive
JEEP: Just Expect Every Problem
JAGUAR: Jumps Around, Grinds Uncontrollably, Always Rusting
KIA: Korean Industrian Accident
MASERATI: Must Also Suggest Extra Rope And Towing Implements
MERCEDES: My Expensive Race Car Emits Dense Exhaust Smoke
MITSUBISHI: Manufactured In Taiwan, Sold Under British Influence, Shipped Here Incomplete
MOPAR: Mostly Old Parts And Rust
NISSAN: Never In Season, Simply A No-show
OLDSMOBILE: Overpriced, Leisurely Driven Sedan Made Of Buick`s Irregular Leftover Equipment
PONTIAC: Plan On Numerous Trips In Another Car
PORSCHE: Plenty Of Receipts. Sorry, Can't Have Everything
SAAB: Some *** Actually Boughtit!
TOYOTA: Totalled Only Yesterday, Officer Towed Away
VOLVO: Very Odd Looking Vehicular Object
VW: Very Wonderful

[A Tdi]

You may get a vovlo XC70 or the earlier crosscountry for under 10K with a high milage but they keep going for years and years....

[toff]

Thanks kindly for all these sugesstions :)

[MalcQV]

I agree with Rick, Subaru or EVO for on-road 4x4. My mate has Subarus so that would be my first choice.

[Desertfish]

Used to work with a guy who claimed he had one of each in his garage (never seen them or have been able to verify if it was true but he was the company MD so I have no doubt he could afford it).

His verdict was that the EVO was more pleasurable to drive and he could give it more stick than the Subaru. However, the Sub was more reliabe and needed less sevicing.

[prolfe]

I believe that the Scooby is far less plastiky than the Evo. And don't forget that the Evo will need servicing every 10k.

shame it's not new cos:

The S3 is exactly 1 second slower to 60mph than an Evo.
It's 2 insurance groups lower, does 10mpg more.

Is half the cost of servicing of an Evo (£3k)

Does practically the same top speed, although I think the S3 is limited.

155mph vs 157mph

It's also £1k cheaper than an FQ300, £8.6k cheaper than a FQ360

Also - The Audi S5 is only £39k :biglaugh:

only!!

And that is a monster - 0-60 in 5.1