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negev
18-07-2017, 01:05 PM
My car has 149k on the clock, it's an AWX 1.9 PD.

It was on longlife servicing before I got it, so I'm staying with the longlife oil but shortening the service intervals. What is the recommended interval for a car that makes a lot of short trips? I drive 10 miles to work, occasionally do some long motorway runs but mostly it's just pottering around locally.

10k miles seems a bit extreme for this kind of service, would 5k be sufficient using longlife oil or should I go shorter?

Thanks

Guest 2
18-07-2017, 01:27 PM
10k/1yr is sufficient.

negev
18-07-2017, 01:52 PM
What are you basing this on? I keep hearing about how short trips cause moisture to get into the oil and unless you run the car for a good couple of hours it doesn't boil off, and over time that sludges up the oil.

Does the longlife oil somehow protect itself against that?

Gazwould
18-07-2017, 02:45 PM
£20 or less LongLife oil , £4 Mann oil filter , do it every 6 months !

LongLife oil will perform better as more dispersants and detergents in the additive package .

vwcabriolet1971
18-07-2017, 09:39 PM
Lots of short trips with the engine oil not reaching normal temperature can cause increased engine wear. The combustion by-. products are not burnt off and condensation is a problem ( in the exhaust as well). I once knew a guy with an immaculate old very low mileage morris minor. He did not think that the engine oil needed to be changed very regularly due to the very low mileage. The engine sounded like a bucketful of loose spanners !
I would be very suspicious of long life oil at £20 ( 4L ?). Counterfeit oil is not uknown.

Gazwould
18-07-2017, 11:24 PM
£20 and 5L .

Lol , it's VW's own oil made by Fuchs !

vwcabriolet1971
19-07-2017, 05:33 PM
Where can I get oil at £20/5L ?

A3_130
19-07-2017, 08:32 PM
I do my ASZ PD 130 every 8k with 5W40 fully synthetic PD oil from Europarts / Car Parts for Less and it's never missed a beat. Now on 120k.

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MiniMental
19-07-2017, 10:57 PM
Where can I get oil at £20/5L ?

Trade Parts Specialist. Brilliant they are. 20L Quantum LL3 5w/40 is £45ish last week. £17.99 for 5L and £4.60 for 1L.

Would definitely advise it regularly, changing camshaft costs a lot more and that was doing it myself... if your car was on long life service like mine to begin with, lift rocker cover and check camshaft if I were you. Lol.

Aidan


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Gazwould
20-07-2017, 12:16 AM
30 grade for the last two posts .

vwcabriolet1971
21-07-2017, 05:21 PM
My golf requires 504/507 which is only available in 5W - 30 grade due to the Particulate filter .20L would last me nearly 5 years ! What's the shelf life ?

Gazwould
21-07-2017, 07:08 PM
6 years is recommended .

yurtesen
16-01-2019, 05:08 AM
My car has 149k on the clock, it's an AWX 1.9 PD.
It was on longlife servicing before I got it, so I'm staying with the longlife oil but shortening the service intervals. What is the recommended interval for a car that makes a lot of short trips? I drive 10 miles to work, occasionally do some long motorway runs but mostly it's just pottering around locally.
10k miles seems a bit extreme for this kind of service, would 5k be sufficient using longlife oil or should I go shorter?
Thanks

You don't have to think about your driving style and conditions because engine computer automatically tracks this information when you are under flexible service intervals.

Recommended oil change interval is up to 2 years or 30000miles, or when the service light comes which automatically takes your driving conditions into consideration. As a matter of fact, longlife servicing is a misnomer. It is longlife oil. Servicing is actually called flexible service interval. In my opinion should have been called smart service interval because engine computer calculates when the oil change should be made based your driving conditions. Including length of your journeys, oil temperature and level, if you are driving economically or not etc.

Meaning, effectively the service time is shorter when it is needed. How computer calculates this is explained at official VW documentation here -> http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_224.pdf
Flexible intervals are also briefly explained here: Ross-Tech: VAG-COM: VW Service Interval Reminders (http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/vw_sri.html)

MiniMental
21-01-2019, 12:37 AM
Anyone that leaves it that long between an oil change on a PD engine is frankly, a naive idiot. Change a couple of camshafts on cars with a “Flexible Service Interval” sticker in the passenger door and they’ll know exactly what I mean.

Should be done at a maximum of 10k miles IMO. I’ve had the issue first hand of what the LongLife option does to PD engines. And done a few others as well.


54 Passat Wagon PD175
99’ Audi S4 Avant 2.7 QTO ;)

HalfAudio
25-01-2019, 02:08 AM
I guess a lot of drivers are naive and believe the long life bull crap.. Even the lads in vw always told customers not to bother with it.Be safe it is easy to change oil on these cars 6000k+bosch filter ,255 000miles on clock not a problem! Actually engine oil last few 1000KM it drastically loses its ability to lubricate, there was this one Russian guy on youtube that proved it pretty scientifically and with massive tests. Vw oil wasn't the best but it still scored pretty good!