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Spinks7
24-10-2007, 08:26 PM
i have a mk 4 golf tdi and i am looking at upgrading the speakers, on the doors.

on the front
firstly what size are the standard speakers?
and secondly if i buy adaptor plates such as these : http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/2005.html (http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/2005.html)
will the door cards fit back on and will modification need to be done?

on the back
there are no speakers installed in the back doors just wundering if the speaker connectors will still be there?
there are grills already there just no speakers,

what size speakers are ment to be there?
will the same adaptor plates as above fit the back
thanks,
Spinks

vee-dub-golf
25-10-2007, 04:49 PM
right the front is 6.5 am sure it is, as for the adaptor plates a dont think you will need them. the back a think is 6.5 as well. yeah the connecters etc will be there as well only reason ano is because a was tryin 2 run my 6x9s off them coz ma amp wasnt powerful enuff.

as for door speakers what kind you goin for ?

Col
25-10-2007, 06:10 PM
Believe it or not, the stock speakers are quite good and can handle a fair bit of power if driven with a clean signal.

I'd turn my attention to amping them first / instead.

Spinks7
25-10-2007, 10:39 PM
i dont know what speakers im looking foor but im off to USA tomoro and there much cheaper over there. is there any you would recomend, i will have internet connection whilst in USA so will be checking up every day for replys
thanks
spinks7

garrygolf1.6
07-11-2007, 09:09 PM
helo there i have just joined as i was lookin at a few of these forums!

i am also considering doing the same to my mark 4 golf 1.6s 2001

dont no if this is any help but i found these speakers http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-infinity-kappa653-7i_p-22421.htm

they are quite expensive but are the most powerful i have found.

hope that helps :biglaugh:

vee-dub-golf
07-11-2007, 09:25 PM
dont waste your money on them mate trust me if you want power go for these

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/5769.html

they maybe me 30/40 pounds dear but it will be worth every penny.

looks @ the Figures:

Infinity door speakers - 2-75 RMS/225 peak power.

Alpine Type R door speakers 110 RMS/330 peak power.


I Have Just Got A Alpine Type S Sub & Its Only 300rms/900 peak But Its The Quality, Etc You Are Paying For, Dont Buy JBL Spl Etc Cause There All Crap. For Another £30 You Can Buy Alot Better Then Again There Is Alot Better Than Alpine As Well I.e rainbow Etc & There About 200+ For Door Speakers Alone.

Basicly If You Want A Good Sound System Commin In @ Entry Level A Would Say Alpine Is The Way To Go Maybe A Little Dearer But WORTH IT!

garrygolf1.6
07-11-2007, 09:29 PM
i was looking at speakers like that but wasnt sure wat the small box was for?

also i have a 10 inch alpine type R sub in ther old style 1 with a 800w pioneer amp hooked up to 2 infinity 6x9s, but i am tihnkin of upgrading my sub to a 12'' but not sure wether to get 1 or 2 subs?

write bak asap

vee-dub-golf
07-11-2007, 09:44 PM
Thats What You Wire Everything Into Then Run It Into Your Amp Am Sure.

Personally A Would Scrap Your Old System The Lot Of It Even The 6x9s.

Type R Sub : £100 Or Less
Type S Sub: £80 ish (i perfer the type s to the type r but thats just me)

Alpine Mono Amp: £100

Type R Door Seakers: £110

Alpine Two Channel Amp £70

All In Well Under £400 And A Bet Its The Best Few Hunner Quid You Have Spend In A While. As I Dont Know How Much Your Budget Is, A Dont Know If Thats To Dear For You Or Not. But TRUST ME It Takes Time & In The End You Will Thank Yourself For Savin Up For Gettin A System Like This Just get Bit By Bit Thats What Am Doin.


As For Getting 2 Amps Its A Defos !! If You Ever Run 6x9s/door speakers Your Are Better Getting A Two Channel Amp Rather Than Getting A Big 5 Channel Amp. Puts To Much Power Throught The Amp.

As For Two Subs, A Would Run One Sub, Break It In Get Your Door Speakers Etc Then Ask Your Self If You Want More Bass.If You Do Either Go Big Bucks & Get A Type X Or Go For Another 12 inch sub :)

Hope Ave Helped You Out A Bit :)

vdubjord
17-11-2007, 03:15 PM
JUST GOT SOME NEW DOOR SPEAKERS FOR MY GOLF, AND AM STRUGLING TO GET THE DOOR CARDS OFF, DONT WANT TO BREAK ANYTHING YOU SEE! ANY INFO WILL BE GREAT THNKS:1zhelp::biglaugh: OH AND WILL 5-1/4" FIT OK OR ARE THEY TO SMALL

garrygolf1.6
17-11-2007, 06:17 PM
as mentioned before someone has said that the stock speakers ar very good!

i was going to upgrade my door speakers but spoke to a specialist shop in my area and they even told me nt to buy from them but to upgrade the vw speakers.

so my mark 4 golf will b running on 80w upgraded vw stock speakers but they will be clearer and more bassy than most speakers under the price of 150 pound

vee-dub-golf
18-11-2007, 01:45 AM
vdubjord - They Componets I Think Are To Small You Can Fit 6 1/2 Inch Ones Know Problem



garrygolf1.6 - ''i was going to upgrade my door speakers but spoke to a specialist shop in my area and they even told me nt to buy from them but to upgrade the vw speakers.''

Much Would It Cost Like To Upgrade To Other Vw Ones ? If Over £50 A Say Its A Was Of Money You Can Buy Focal (which are the best front components btw will explain later) From £75 So Why Instead Of Buying Vw Ones Again Buy Focal & For Maybe £25 More They Will Be 10 Times Better !!

Back Tho To The Focal, As I Said Above: I said go for everything alpine... well a take that back. thats system a said up there was th best part of £400. i was @ a audio open night the other week there & they said we can give you something 1000 times better for £400 compaired to jbl,fly, alpine Etc.

RRP Price Is £400
For Focal Subwoofer
Jl audio 4 channel amp
Focal Components

You May Get That All Of That Cheaper On Ebay Etc, But E.m.m.a & IASCA (two of the main sound off judges) Say That These Are The Best Names On The Market Not For The Price But In Genral Aswell.Also For That £400 You Spend On The Best Stuff It Would Also Come Under As Competition Level Sound Offs,So Rather Than Saying I Was @ Max Power Today Or At Fast & Modified Today You Could Say Well I Was @ Max Power Putting Ma Car In A Sound Off 7 Came 2nd For Talking Sake.

Weather Your Intrested In Sound Offs Or Not You Would Still Be Spending £300 - £400 On A Vibe Or Jbl Or Alpine Etc So For The Same Price Your Paying Your Getting Alot Better !!!

garrygolf1.6
18-11-2007, 04:01 PM
thanx vee-dub-golf.
i have spoken again to the ice specialist and also the local vw dealership and hav found out that a upgrade kit for the front as my golf onli has front speakers, is £90 which is an upgrade of speakers and tweeters, i am informed that they are the spekaers in the mark 4 r32,

also i have spoken to the ice specialist and i spoke to them about what speakers and they laughed at me when i spoke of 1500watt alpine subs and they said that although they claim this they cannot reach them,

for this reason i am saving up and purchasing:
1x MTX 7500 SUB
1x MTX monoblock amp
1x MTX sealed box
all installed and very helpful
for £620

so just need to save up and should sound very good!

long post i no! just to mention the guy at the shop told me nt to put 6x9s in the parcel shelf aswell as a sub as they both fight for the same air so the sub will blow the 6x9s they said the only way u can do it is to separatly box each of them

Spinks7
18-11-2007, 04:15 PM
thanks for the info but i now have got some after market speakers for my car, and sounding quite gd mine didnt have any speakers in the back either so had 2 put wire into the back so could power the speakers. let me no when ya get all ya speakers n subs in ya get n how it all sounds.

vee-dub-golf
18-11-2007, 04:20 PM
Good Stuff Mate !!

A Will Post Up My new Sound System When Its In, Costing Me Just Under 1k But Thats For Front Components Which Are £340 Which Are More Powerful That Most Subs, A 6 Channel Amp £350 & 12 Inch Sub £100, Dyno Mat & Dyno Net. It Will Be @ All The Big Shows Next Year Entering All The Sounds Offs Should Be In For The End Of Januray A Think If Not Sooner :D

garrygolf1.6
18-11-2007, 04:22 PM
awww klkl m8 il post some pictures when all the work is finished but need to find 600 quid sumwhere!!!

may see me on a street corner hehe