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M1tchy
03-01-2014, 12:00 AM
I have very nearly managed to code the traffic sign recognition option. So far I have done the following:

- 17 Instruments, Long Coding, Byte 05, Bit 2 on
- 8E Image Processing, Long Coding, Byte 02, Bit 0 on
- MMI Hidden Menu: car/cardevicelist, VZE on
- MMI Hidden Menu: car/carmenuoperation, VZE => 5

This has given me options for the traffic recognition system in the "Car" menu, however, it doesn't work fully. On the screen between the clocks it says "speed limit display currently restricted". Anyone got any ideas how to finish it off so it works? Ive got all the relevant cameras and modules that I need, so I think its just a programming issues somewhere.

It is possible on a Skoda using VCDS...
How to enable Traffic Sign recognition - Skoda Octavia III (2013 onward) - BRISKODA.net - The Skoda Forum and Community (http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/299493-how-to-enable-traffic-sign-recognition/)

So as they all use the same software it must be possible on the Audi. Any help massively appreciated.

ndiye
15-01-2014, 10:25 PM
I have very nearly managed to code the traffic sign recognition option. So far I have done the following:

- 17 Instruments, Long Coding, Byte 05, Bit 2 on
- 8E Image Processing, Long Coding, Byte 02, Bit 0 on
- MMI Hidden Menu: car/cardevicelist, VZE on
- MMI Hidden Menu: car/carmenuoperation, VZE => 5

This has given me options for the traffic recognition system in the "Car" menu, however, it doesn't work fully. On the screen between the clocks it says "speed limit display currently restricted". Anyone got any ideas how to finish it off so it works? Ive got all the relevant cameras and modules that I need, so I think its just a programming issues somewhere.

It is possible on a Skoda using VCDS...
How to enable Traffic Sign recognition - Skoda Octavia III (2013 onward) - BRISKODA.net - The Skoda Forum and Community (http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/299493-how-to-enable-traffic-sign-recognition/)

So as they all use the same software it must be possible on the Audi. Any help massively appreciated.

Seems we're in a similar situation, I too am trying to get the traffic sign recognition to work, I've had a look what you have done and its similar to what I have found elsewhere on other forums, the only thing though is that I seem to have a different version of VCDS or maybe your MMI software version is more recent but the bit and byte combinations that you have posted aren't possible when I plug my setup in. So would you be so good as to post a couple of screen caps of the long coding dialogue box showing your coding and the options that I ought to be seeing?
I think its possible too, just missing one or two minor adjustments, and I think the secret lies in the bit and byte options you described perhaps variations to this (could be wrong, I've been that before) Its one of my little projects, along with my plan to retrofit the cool sound actuator exhausts to my lesser 204 Multitronic A7 you have them as standard on your biturbo (lucky sod). All the same I will post screen caps of what I see to make it clearer what I see in VCDS as opposed to what I should see, as in what you see, ( dunno if that makes any sense ) but any help is much appreciated. Oh and I'm using VCDS 12.12.0 if that helps.
And thanks for sharing;);););););););)!!!!!

Guest 2
15-01-2014, 10:29 PM
My RNSE displays speed limits of the roads as standard :p

not my pic

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=6916&stc=1&d=1383076336

M1tchy
16-01-2014, 09:24 AM
Yeah my satnav does that too but speed limits change and unless the mapping has been updated it will be wrong.

Hopefully between us we can get it enabled. :-)


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M1tchy
16-01-2014, 09:28 AM
Ndiye, hopefully I will finish work early tonight and be able to get some screen shots for you.

It's going into the dealers tomorrow for the rattley HUD so am tempted to say its stopped working and can they fix it! But I'm too honest for that so might ask them if they know how to code it.

Would prefer it if we sorted it ourselves though! ;-)


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M1tchy
16-01-2014, 08:17 PM
Ndiye, I am also using VCDS version 12.12.0. No idea why you have different coding on the long coding helper to me.

Sideways rain tonight here though and had to park down the road so not going out im afraid! I will try and get some over the weekend for you. Feel free to post your coding up (if your weather is any better) and we can compare and hopefully, figure this out.

ndiye
17-01-2014, 02:32 AM
M1tchy, I couldn't help but think I might have missed something in trying out the coding you posted at the start of this thread, so I had a revisit to rule out any silliness on my part, if I still missed it then there is no hope for me, but see below the screen caps of what I see when exploring the 17 and 8E controllers as it turns out its just the 17 instruments coding that has me in some doubt. Now thinking about, it the only thing I can think of is that you have gone in and changed the coding by actually changing Byte 05, bit 2 to ON by changing the binary from 01010011 to 01110011 as I don't see a check box beyond bit 1 (see below screencap) that I could simply tag that would then change the hex value to 73 and so it would mean replacing 53 with 73 in the Long coding. Now before I go and do this I thought I'd check first, coz I have heard some horror stories about making blind changes with VCDS.What coding do you have:confused::p


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mjhamilton
17-01-2014, 09:13 AM
dumb question - where and how would the system actively pick up speed limits for roads???... surely it would need a sensor or camera to do this??... IIRC on most cars the forward facing camera is used to snap and interpolate the limit from road signs......

Surely as per Chris the information would have to come from the data on the DVD so you would need the updated disc to make this more current?


Chris - is this an RNS-E v2 thing??.. I see no limits on my RNS-E v1 - are you now giving me another reason to upgrade :)

M1tchy
17-01-2014, 07:10 PM
It uses the camera from the active lane assist to read road signs.


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M1tchy
17-01-2014, 09:37 PM
M1tchy, I couldn't help but think I might have missed something in trying out the coding you posted at the start of this thread, so I had a revisit to rule out any silliness on my part, if I still missed it then there is no hope for me, but see below the screen caps of what I see when exploring the 17 and 8E controllers as it turns out its just the 17 instruments coding that has me in some doubt. Now thinking about, it the only thing I can think of is that you have gone in and changed the coding by actually changing Byte 05, bit 2 to ON by changing the binary from 01010011 to 01110011 as I don't see a check box beyond bit 1 (see below screencap) that I could simply tag that would then change the hex value to 73 and so it would mean replacing 53 with 73 in the Long coding. Now before I go and do this I thought I'd check first, coz I have heard some horror stories about making blind changes with VCDS.What coding do you have:confused::p


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Hey ndiye, yes you are right, I changed the binary sequence to 01110011. Also did the other bits I mentioned in my first post and that's when I got the warning on the DIS about the camera being out of its operational area. After the first time I got the warning, I didn't get it again.

Let me know how you get on


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ndiye
18-01-2014, 03:00 PM
Hey M1tchy

Okay I tried the alternate binary code, and it was accepted, but nothing, no change, if anything the only difference is the the speed display from nav is no longer available and that the traffic sign recog menu appears in the car menu. I didn't get an error dialogue like you described earlier. I think its in the adaptations that the final step is, looking into it and as suggested in the link you provided there needs to be a change in the adaptations for information electronics. Now that's not definitive, its a guess at best, part of the reason being that in my previous endeavour trying get the boot to close via remote after much trial and error the thing that got everything working was to enable the correct adaptations for the relevant modules. So my question to you is what coding have you got for your information electronics, a screen cap would be brilliant, as I'm more visual but of course that is entirely at your convenience and preference.
Thanks.

M1tchy
18-01-2014, 03:21 PM
Ndiye, glad you are now at the same stage as me. I have only had that error message once and as you say now it's in the MMI I think we are close. I will get a screen shot of info electrics for you shortly.

Did you get your boot to close via remote as well as open?


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ndiye
18-01-2014, 03:31 PM
Thanks for the quick response, and yes I did get the boot close working in the end works very well too ( no coding faults )despite having been initially told by my dealer that the function only works with the advanced key which I don't have. One wonders . . . . .

M1tchy
18-01-2014, 04:01 PM
I don't suppose you would be so kind as to share your coding for the boot? I will code that while I get you some screen shots if that's ok?


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ndiye
18-01-2014, 05:17 PM
It's a compilation of collated info from different sources and it was a matter of trying varying combinations of those little tidbits, a lot like we're trying to do with the traffic sign recognition. So it's the result of some experimentation, and as you know there is an element of risk with VCDS changes. As I said it works like a charm for me and I have been keeping an eye on it with scans every so often, did the mod several months ago and so far so good no issues whatsoever. I wouldn't want to be responsible for the ruination of your spectacular ride, so if you're okay with that, yeah I'll send it your way, will pm it to you. On that subject any ideas on getting the spoiler to retract on locking the car after a manual deploy of the spoiler, that's something I would like. I sometimes forget it in the up position and it feels vulnerable, like someone might rip it off like some bizarre trophy or just for kicks, so would be nice to retract it without having to go out to the car and powering everything up just to put the spoiler away. Any ideas?

M1tchy
18-01-2014, 05:23 PM
Yeah im happy to take the risk if you are happy to share your knowledge. It can all be put back to how it was if it goes wrong.

On the spoiler note, I havnt been able to find any part of VCDS that allows changes to any of its settings. I was looking to change the speed it deploys but no joy so far. I agree it does look vulnerable when its up and the car is parked.

ndiye
18-01-2014, 06:54 PM
M1tchy sent you a PM . . . . . Let me know if it works for you.

M1tchy
18-01-2014, 07:37 PM
Very kind of you. Off to try it and get some screen shots for you now. Back shortly.


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M1tchy
18-01-2014, 08:23 PM
Ndiye, you are a genius, that worked first time and was so easy. Thank you. Do your parking sensor alarms beep when it is closing? Mine does, which I like as a sort of safety feature.

Now, Im afraid i cant find an information electrics section on VCDS. I do have central electrics though, is that what you mean / want a screen shot of? Let me know if so as ive got it saved, but if not, do you know the short-cut code for info electrics? i.e. 8f for image processing

The adaptation side of things you sent me on your PM reminded me of something I found when trying to code the traffic recognition camera but there were loads of options on the drop down menu and none seemed to accept the coding from off to on. Annoying but we must be so nearly there.

Out of interest, what do you do for a day job? Just interesting to find someone with a technical mind thats all.

ndiye
18-01-2014, 09:09 PM
Dont mention it M1tchy you're welcome, glad to share but I can hardly take the credit, I only cobbled together various bits of other peoples work, I recall quite a large chunk of that info coming from a youtube videos or two, I don't remember the authors but credit to them and a few others.
The beeping isn't your parking sensors, its a buzzer thats serves the boot functions and with remote close is serves to give a warning of the closing in progress, I read it in one of the Audi study guides when doing my exploring, its the equivalent of the beeping that you get when a large truck is reversing.
The scan that I need is for the controller Address 5F Information Electr. and controller Address 46 Central Conv. if its not too much trouble, that would be great and if you could do by way of a few screen shots that would be even better, and greatly appreciated.
Day job, I'm in IT the boring side, hardware that is, but working on switching to software . . . now that is far far more interesting, and yourself?

M1tchy
18-01-2014, 09:52 PM
You definitely deserve the credit, you pieced it all together and now it works perfectly. Thanks again.

Do you have an email address I can send the screen shots to? I don't know what other info is available from a VCDS scan (VIN, reg etc) so not massively keen on posting them on the internet. Happy to email them to you as an individual though.

I'm a Sgt in the British Army. I'm in communications and specifically Electronic Warfare by trade hence why I like to figure things out - probably the same for you.

Over the next week or so I'm looking at doing a VCDS tricks thread for A7 owners, just like they have in the A6 thread. Obviously crediting you, and clearly stating that we are not responsible for any errors in programming, are you happy for me to add your boot closing coding to the list? And if we sort this traffic sign recognition, your part of this too?


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ndiye
18-01-2014, 10:12 PM
I've PM'ed you . . . . . .

M1tchy
18-01-2014, 11:23 PM
Thanks for your message.

I've got one of the screen shots you were after, will get the other and PM you in the morning.


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frank55
16-02-2014, 12:03 PM
Hello, M1tchy

As far I understand from your discussion with Ndiye, you have activated this function succesfully. I try to do it on my A6 C7 using different information from forums but have no result. Would you help me with instructions?
Thank you in advance.

M1tchy
16-02-2014, 12:04 PM
Hi, we havnt quite got it working yet. The only bits we have managed is what is posted in this topic. It doesn't work properly yet I'm afraid.


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frank55
16-02-2014, 12:15 PM
May be we can change information and resolve it?

M1tchy
16-02-2014, 12:18 PM
All we have managed to do is

- 17 Instruments, Long Coding, Byte 05, Bit 2 on
- 8E Image Processing, Long Coding, Byte 02, Bit 0 on
- MMI Hidden Menu: car/cardevicelist, VZE on
- MMI Hidden Menu: car/carmenuoperation, VZE to level 5

This shows the traffic sign recognition camera in the MMI but doesn't read the signs. Have you got any further?

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ndiye
16-02-2014, 06:02 PM
Hey M1tchy

I haven't had a lot of time on my hands lately, but I thought I'd share the little tidbit I found, you know how when you try to change the adaptations for 8E image processing module, there is need for a security code? I came across a code in my travels on the web tried it and it was accepted, yeah right? The thing is even though the code is accepted as correct, still can't make any changes to any of the adaptations, maybe you can have a go, you might succeed where I failed. The code I used is 20103.

M1tchy
16-02-2014, 06:46 PM
That's great thanks. My car is going into Audi tomorrow fort he week so will have a play when it back. I've been away with work a lot recently too so not had much chance to play.


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tj2k
20-02-2014, 11:50 PM
Hi, just a a thank you ref the auto boot close on my A7 - I have convenience key but without the keyless entry (accidentally wrote "legless" entry originally :o:p;)) & am looking to retro-fit keyless. The auto boot from the key fob works fine and there were no issues.

On my car though, when trying to do the High Beam Assist range adjustment, VCDS can't communicate with module 20 - its like its not there, however I do have the HBA option on the car because it works quite well. As VCDS tries to communicate with the module, you can see that it is trying the high-beam assist module - but the module never replies and VCDS tries the suite of protocols...I tried this several times by the way - just like the module isn't installed?? I wonder if I'm using VCSD wrongly - I used the short-cut but typing in the module number at the bottom.

Also interested in the part number of you BCM (next time you go in! hint hint ;) ) if you have full advance key entry (so touch the door-handle to unlock not press the button on the fob) feature - as I'd like to compare that part no. with the one in my car - as it has keyless go, MMI touch/High etc.

Any help greatly appreciated & thanks a million :)

sbaffi
12-06-2014, 12:20 AM
Hi guys,

Sorry to restart such an old thread but I coded the VZE on my new A6 4G following your indications: the first time all the necessary bits were there and coded. Of course I was getting all the same speed messages as you.

Then the DIS start screen changed into the RS6 one and even with the appropriate coding I could not revert to standard (00 for standard A6). Went back into my VCDS logs and copied the original cluster long coding. Obviously I have the VZE still active in 5F, 85 and 8E but cannot find anymore where to activate it in the cluster 17 Byte 05 bit 2 - cannot see beyond bit 1 as Ndiye in post #7 - it's like I have a different cluster now and I am not sure how to activate the additional bits because with 01110011 as in your example I just get a spoiler error.

Any idea?

sbaffi
13-06-2014, 10:22 PM
Fixed it...

M1tchy
14-06-2014, 08:58 AM
Fixed your fault or didi you get the traffic recognition to work?


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sbaffi
14-06-2014, 09:54 AM
I changed Byte 5 directly in the Long Coding from 41 to 15 and the VZE is now back in both cluster and MMI. I have "Assist" as well in the DIS now, not sure how to get a rid of it.

As for the VZE to work, not there yet.

Just wondering, the security code for the 8E module does not seem to work...Maybe it needs three pins one after the other as my old 4F 55 Headlight Control module?

BTW, anyone knows what the other bits in Byte 5 activate?

Westyfield2
19-08-2014, 07:28 PM
I was browsing Kufatec today and remembered this thread. They sell a few versions of the "kit" that has what they think is needed...

http://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/audi/a6/a6-4g/traffic-sign-recognition-audi-a6-a7-4g

Active Lane Assist incl traffic sign recognition Audi A6, A7 4G-40210 (http://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/audi/a6/a6-4g/active-lane-assist-incl-traffic-sign-recognition-audi-a6-a7-4g)

Diagnostic interface traffic sign recognition-40225_M (http://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/diagnostic-tools/kufatec-diagnostic-coding-dongle/volkswagen-audi/diagnostic-interface-traffic-sign-recognition)

M1tchy
19-08-2014, 07:49 PM
yeah I've seen those too, however after sending my VIN, they quoted nearly £500 to fit the bits I need!

Hellodave.
31-08-2014, 08:29 PM
yeah I've seen those too, however after sending my VIN, they quoted nearly £500 to fit the bits I need!
What bits do they say you need? I thought the only pre-reqs were the image processing unit (which comes with ACC/Active Lane Assist) and MMI Plus?

If you look at Audi's self study booklet for speed limit display http://admin.audionlinetraining.com/Upload/SSP/497_SSP482_Audi%20A7%20Head-up%20display%20and%20speed%20limit%20indicator.pdf ), it mentions the errors that can appear when traffic sign recognition isn't working. Looks like something else needs coding in the MMI to send live route data to the image processing unit in order for the traffic sign recognition to work.

Page 32 of that document shows which modules are involved in traffic sign recognition. They include the electrical system control unit, which the sends windscreen wiper status to the image processing module. Wonder if anything needs coding in this to make it work?

M1tchy
31-08-2014, 09:00 PM
The link doesn't work for me I'm afraid mate. I thought I had all the hardware too as I have ACC and lane assist. I've emailed Audi and asked them as I forgot to spec it, can they add it for me and I will pay. If they do then I will know exactly how it's done!

There is a tread in the A6 forum that suggests changing the image processing module from GB to RoW makes it work. Haven't had chance to have a play yet though.


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Hellodave.
31-08-2014, 09:06 PM
The link doesn't work for me I'm afraid mate.

Strange - works ok here. Google "Audi Ssp 482" and you should find it. :-)

M1tchy
31-08-2014, 09:35 PM
Got it! Thanks.

It says if it says outside of operational area then it's not coded for the correct country. I will have a look tomorrow to see if I can find how to change the country as that is the fault I was getting after trying to code it.


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darkyuk
26-01-2015, 08:33 PM
Hi Guys, looking at the self training have you considered that you may need to disable the speed limits on the nav alone for this to work. Did anyone figure this out?

Also, if someone could share the info on closing boot by remote on a c7 A7 that would be appreciated.

Cheers Andy

M1tchy
26-01-2015, 08:58 PM
I hadn't thought of that, maybe something to try next time I have a play.

For the boot closing, see the A7 VCDS tips and tricks at the top of the A7 section.


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darkyuk
09-03-2015, 10:52 AM
I have the coding dongle from Kufatec coming today, according to the manual you have to do the same codings as here before connecting the dongle so I am guessing there is something locked away that we cannot get to easily which the dongle changes.

Hellodave.
09-03-2015, 11:16 AM
I have the coding dongle from Kufatec coming today, according to the manual you have to do the same codings as here before connecting the dongle so I am guessing there is something locked away that we cannot get to easily which the dongle changes.
Did you already have lane assist (or acc) and just order the dongle or did you need any extra modules/wiring?

Let us know how you get on. Be interesting to see if there's any difference between a before and after VCDS scan when you've connected the dongle.

M1tchy
09-03-2015, 11:44 AM
I have the coding dongle from Kufatec coming today, according to the manual you have to do the same codings as here before connecting the dongle so I am guessing there is something locked away that we cannot get to easily which the dongle changes.

Oooooo, I'll be very interested to see if this works for you. Fingers crossed.

What spec do you have? ACC, lane assist?


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darkyuk
09-03-2015, 01:31 PM
Well the manual from Kufatec says the below has to be done PRIOR to connecting the dongle, the dongle then ties itself to the VIN and other car specific data so it cannot be used by others :

Adresse 17: Byte 05, Bit 2 oder per Klartextcodierung
Adresse 8E: Byte 02, Bit 0 oder per Klartextcodierung
Adresse 5F: Anpassung, Kanal 6 > auf 1 setzen


Taste CAR + MENU für ca. 5 Sekunden drücken um ins Hidden Menu zu gelangen.
MMI Hidden Menu: car/cardevicelist, VZE
MMI Hidden Menu: car/carmenuoperation, VZE –> Wert 5 einstellen
MMI Reset durchführen

What Scan data should I get from VCDS? I'm OK with adaptions and codings but never done a scan other than an error scan.

Andy

darkyuk
09-03-2015, 01:32 PM
I should have added, I have ACC, Lane Assist, Side Assist etc already, the car is a Black Edition with Technology Pack - High.

Hellodave.
09-03-2015, 01:39 PM
What Scan data should I get from VCDS? I'm OK with adaptions and codings but never done a scan other than an error scan.

After you've done the coding but before plugging in the dongle, do an auto scan, then do another auto scan after the dongle has done it's thing. I doubt there will be any difference but it would be interesting to see.

M1tchy
09-03-2015, 02:10 PM
This is going to be interesting.


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darkyuk
10-03-2015, 02:49 PM
Well I have some new fault codes to go along with my Backup Cam needing calibrarting, any ideas on these? I have an autoscan from before and after also, I will compare them and let you know of any differences:


Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 4G8 920 984 P HW: 4G8 920 984 P
Component: TDieGb Acc H58 0622
Revision: 29460237 Serial number: 658220314596008
Coding: 338F00020F572600010100
Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_RBD4K 004048
ROD: EV_RBD4K.rod
VCID: 438FB6A2CAE7C739332-8016
1 Fault Found:
16776980 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 17
Mileage: 12267 km
Date: 2015.03.10
Time: 13:20:29

Address 82: Heads Up Display (J898) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4G8 919 604 L HW: 4G8 919 604 L
Component: HeadUpDisplay 006 0203
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: C60000
Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_HUDContiC7 001023
ROD: EV_HUDContiC7.rod
VCID: 3C7DCD5EB719B8C1728-8069
1 Fault Found:
13636608 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
U1014 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 232
Mileage: 12267 km
Date: 2015.03.10
Time: 13:21:14

Hellodave.
10-03-2015, 02:55 PM
The coding instructions you posted don't mention address 82 (the hud) but presumably you need to code this to say traffic sign recognition is installed? That could explain the error - the car might be sending speed data to the hud and it doesn't know what to do with it.

darkyuk
10-03-2015, 03:02 PM
Yeah, that's what I think too but unfortunately VCDS can't help with that coding :(

M1tchy
10-03-2015, 03:40 PM
I also get the faults you have posted when I do the VCDS changes but without using the dongle. Apart from the faults in VCDS is the system working now and showing your speed in the DIS? And even with the fault is it showing on the HUD?

darkyuk
10-03-2015, 04:36 PM
I also get the faults you have posted when I do the VCDS changes but without using the dongle. Apart from the faults in VCDS is the system working now and showing your speed in the DIS? And even with the fault is it showing on the HUD?

Speed limits show in the DIS on the left hand side, or full screen if you select it, nothing in the HUD though.

Below are the differences between the two scans :

Before :

Address 8E: Image Processing (J851) Labels: 4G0-907-107.clb
Coding: 03C238181111

Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
Coding: 338F00020F532600010100

Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
Coding: 090101040003EDEF7D90CB3E00000003000001000000000000

After :

Address 8E: Image Processing (J851) Labels: 4G0-907-107.clb
Coding: 03C239181111

Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
Coding: 338F00020F572600010100

Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
Coding: 090101040003EDEF7DB0CB3E00000003000001000000000000

darkyuk
10-03-2015, 05:24 PM
If anyone has an A7 with HUD and Traffic Sign Recognition and can let me know their coding it would help :)

M1tchy
10-03-2015, 06:58 PM
I think soft has. And I think he has sent me the coding before as I was trying to enable it without buying the dongle. Will check after scoff and let you know.


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M1tchy
10-03-2015, 07:27 PM
Afraid I don't have it anymore. I do have the fitting instructions and coding for traffic recognition which must be what you got as you bought the single? It's a 15 page pdf. I can forward it if you PM me your email address


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darkyuk
10-03-2015, 09:12 PM
Bummer, I don't suppose its in your VCDS logs is it?

I'll PM you my email, i'm guessing the PDF is the same though, is it in German?

Andy

M1tchy
10-03-2015, 09:20 PM
I didn't scan his car, think he's based in Norway. He's on here and his username is soft, was very helpful in trying to help me figure out how to do it

. The document is in English and just sent it.


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darkyuk
10-03-2015, 09:49 PM
Ah, i thought you had tried it on yours, vcds has a log of all coding changes you make somewhere.

M1tchy
10-03-2015, 09:53 PM
Afraid not. I've tried the VCDS coding but that's all. I'd like to get it working but no luck yet.


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darkyuk
11-03-2015, 05:06 PM
Got a response from KUFATEC - included below in case it helps anyone else.

Tested the sign recognition today and it works well, picked up the over head variable speed limit signs as well as roadworks :)


Encoding for address 82 Modify, byte 00, bit 0 (C70000)

Error in address 17 is sporadic, so it should be possible to delete.

M1tchy
11-03-2015, 05:23 PM
I think it means Module 82, change byte 00 to 0? If it's already on 0 try changing it to 1?

As for module 17, I have no idea. Maybe clear the fault codes and see what happens?

Glad it's working for you but would bug me knowing faults are on the system and its not working as it should I.e on the HUD.


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darkyuk
11-03-2015, 06:21 PM
Hi Mitchy,

Yeah, the coding change was to toggle bit 0, that changed the coding from C60000 to C70000 and that then added the option for display on the HUD in the MMI.

Cleared the codes on module 17 and will let you know if they reappear, so far so good though.

Andy

Hellodave.
11-03-2015, 06:28 PM
Hi Mitchy,

Yeah, the coding change was to toggle bit 0, that changed the coding from C60000 to C70000 and that then added the option for display on the HUD in the MMI.

Cleared the codes on module 17 and will let you know if they reappear, so far so good though.

Andy
Sounds good! I tried the speed limit display on an RS6 and it was pretty good, but did get confused by the occasional sign which was visible but applied to a side road.

I'd hazard a guess that the module 17 error appeared after you'd coded the instruments but before you plugged in the dongle? It sounds like it was expecting speed limit data that wasn't (yet) there. If so, hopefully it won't re appear now you've activated via the dongle.

M1tchy
11-03-2015, 06:51 PM
Ooooo very good. I'll let you continue being guinea pig for a week or so 😜 and then will invest if it's still all working and no faults on VCDS. Thanks for taking the plunge and glad it's all working for you.


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M1tchy
11-03-2015, 07:27 PM
Was this what you bought?

http://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/diagnostic-tools/kufatec-diagnostic-coding-dongle/volkswagen-audi/diagnostic-interface-traffic-sign-recognition-great-britain?action_ms=1


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darkyuk
12-03-2015, 08:29 AM
I'll send you the link to the one I got, I think its the same, I buy from kufatec.de as it still works out cheaper with the postage added even though its international and its usually quicker as the .co.uk has to wait for things to be sent to them before they forward them on and gbp to euro is near 1.4 at present.

Cheers Andy

ndiye
12-03-2015, 06:46 PM
Looks like things have since picked up since I last came this way . . . . . good to see there's light at the end of the tunnel now finally, it's emboldened timid old me and I've just ordered the dongle just a few moments ago, unfortunately it says there's a lead time of up to a week, I hope it will in reality be less than that . . . we will see. I went down the kufatec.de route as very helpfully advised by Andy ( Thanks for that by the way Andy) and all in I paid £120 that got me to the tipping point considering the option originally was some £280 odd. Now lets see what happens it arrives, will report back on my progress.
M1tchy thanks again for the nudge . . .:beerchug:

M1tchy
12-03-2015, 07:23 PM
No probs. hopefully it works and then I'll take the plunge myself! ;-)

Fingers crossed


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darkyuk
12-03-2015, 09:56 PM
It works well on mine, no issues since coding the hud to it, get a little speed limit sign now under the digital speedo on the hud.

Andy

M1tchy
12-03-2015, 10:00 PM
No faults on any module at all? If so I will order one. :beerchug:

darkyuk
12-03-2015, 10:07 PM
No faults on any module at all? If so I will order one. :beerchug:

I'll.double.check for you tomorrow, hopefully the only fault left will be my reversing camera calibration.

M1tchy
12-03-2015, 10:11 PM
Much appreciated. Thanks.

lclercaudia8
16-03-2015, 06:07 PM
hi
do you have the vze working now with coding with vcds?
or you must buy something from kufatec?

M1tchy
16-03-2015, 06:45 PM
Still need to buy something from kufatec


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darkyuk
18-03-2015, 05:28 PM
Much appreciated. Thanks.

Hi M1tchy,

Just come back from a 300+ mile round trip to Norfolk from Nottingham via Cambridge, no errors logged at all other than me needing to recalibrate the reversing camera. The Image Processing error has gone since the HUD was coded correctly.

Cheers

Andy

P.S. I wish I knew before but you can enable debug logging in VCDS, might be worth doing for the scans before and after.... VCDS may be able to say whats changed then :)

M1tchy
18-03-2015, 05:31 PM
That's great thanks very much. Good idea on the debugging, will give it a go.


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M1tchy
22-03-2015, 11:30 AM
Back from Skiing and ordered one today. Hopefully it will be here by the end of the week so I can get it in and working. Its definitely a case of coding somewhere so will try and figure out what.

ndiye
24-03-2015, 07:59 PM
Quick update, in the simplest way, got my coding dongle from Kufatec yesterday, did a full scan of the car to set a reference point and with the help of google translate put the dongle through its paces and procedures and sure enough as simply as that up popped traffic sign recognition in all relevant menus. There was some alarm and that sinking feeling when the "no speed limit detected" dialogue came up. I then remembered a text from the Audi self-study guide that said this is expected when the ignition has just been switched on an the camera does actually see nothing, which was the case on account of being parked up at the time. Reversing out of my drive, I only had to move a couple of meters and the grey little tab with the speed info popped up. So it does work, its a thumbs up from me, and no errors or wierdness so far, its as though it had been there all along.
Task now is to figure just what was changed by that kufatec box, we'll see this weekend do a coding and adaptation comparison and crack open that box and have a little peek inside even though I know what I will find.
:beerchug: :biglaugh:

M1tchy
24-03-2015, 08:15 PM
I really hope you don't figure out what was changed 30 mins after my dongle arrives! I am also going to do some real digging into what has changed too as this is sooooo annoying. Glad you have yours sorted and working, my dongle is in transit.

EDIT - its in Gatwick!! Hopefully delivered tomorrow!

M1tchy
25-03-2015, 02:23 PM
Its here, done and programmed, however I've got a fault in module 17 saying its not correctly coded. Annoying but only had my lunch hour to do it so will have a look tonight. It works though and happy so far. Just need that fault to disappear.

darkyuk
25-03-2015, 02:27 PM
Hi M1tchy,

The only incorrect coding error I got was with regards to the HUD, had a missing messages on 17 until the HUD was coded. Did you recode 17?

Andy

M1tchy
25-03-2015, 02:51 PM
17 is recoded as far as the instructions on post 1 of this thread. I recoded the HUD as per your instructions and that's all working now. If I tell the car not to show the speed signs in the HUD and just the dis it says "out of operation" or words to that effect. Need to have a look at the coding of 17 again I think.


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darkyuk
25-03-2015, 03:20 PM
If it helps here is my before and afters and what Kufatec say you should change :)

Address 8E: Image Processing (J851) Labels: 4G0-907-107.clb
Coding: 03C238181111


Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
Coding: 338F00020F532600010100


Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
Coding: 090101040003EDEF7D90CB3E00000003000001000000000000


After :


Address 8E: Image Processing (J851) Labels: 4G0-907-107.clb
Coding: 03C239181111


Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
Coding: 338F00020F572600010100


Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
Coding: 090101040003EDEF7DB0CB3E00000003000001000000000000


Kufatec Instructions :


Adresse 17: Byte 05, Bit 2 oder per Klartextcodierung
Adresse 8E: Byte 02, Bit 0 oder per Klartextcodierung
Adresse 5F: Anpassung, Kanal 6 > auf 1 setzen




Taste CAR + MENU für ca. 5 Sekunden drücken um ins Hidden Menu zu gelangen.
MMI Hidden Menu: car/cardevicelist, VZE
MMI Hidden Menu: car/carmenuoperation, VZE –> Wert 5 einstellen
MMI Reset durchführen

M1tchy
25-03-2015, 05:15 PM
Thanks Andy. Finished work early so will go and have a play shortly


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M1tchy
25-03-2015, 08:53 PM
All done and fully working with no errors. Took it out for a 30 min drive and still no errors showing so looks like its all working as it should. Many thanks to all who helped:beerchug: Time to look at the coding differences and see whats changed now so we can do this for free.

Andy,
The only differences between ours were on the instrument coding.

Yours was:
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
Coding: 338F00020F572600010100

Mine was:
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
Coding: 338F01020F532600010100

I changed it to your coding and now it all works perfectly so many thanks for posting that up.

M1tchy
25-03-2015, 09:01 PM
It works on every screen in the DIS and the HUD. Not the best pics but looks great and really sharp in real life.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af211/mitchy1408/96B49F65-F54E-4A3F-BCD2-A13B7B1E150A_zpssub6p8vp.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/mitchy1408/media/96B49F65-F54E-4A3F-BCD2-A13B7B1E150A_zpssub6p8vp.jpg.html)

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M1tchy
01-04-2015, 05:20 PM
Andy, can I ask, do you have the 75 litre fuel tank fitted? I'm having some very strange fuel consumption issues since coding the traffic recognition. I drive to Birmingham and back yesterday (around 450 miles) and the tank is showing half empty but a range of 120 miles! I.e 450 miles for the first half a tank and 120 for the second. I think the coding from the instruments is something to do with it but wanted to check what tank you have please?


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darkyuk
01-04-2015, 06:20 PM
Hi,

No, I have the standard tank, i don't have nightvision either.

Cheers, Andy

M1tchy
03-04-2015, 06:20 PM
Andy,
The only differences between ours were on the instrument coding.

Yours was:
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
Coding: 338F00020F572600010100

Mine was:
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
Coding: 338F01020F532600010100

I changed it to your coding and now it all works perfectly so many thanks for posting that up.

I had a look at my coding this afternoon following strange fuel consumption readings and it seems that where I had the coding 1 (5th digit in) dictates what fuel tank you have. It shows 00 is A6 01 is A7 and 02 is A8 so changed it back to 01 and will see what happens. (Hope I don't run out of fuel!!)

Hellodave.
12-05-2015, 10:20 PM
Just a word of warning for anyone who is thinking of buying a Kufatec dongle, not all Image Processing modules are compatible with traffic sign recognition. I bought a dongle, did all the coding and it still didn't work - turns out I needed a software update to the image processing module. This means sending your module back to Germany for an update, costing about €50 inc shipping (but the car might not be driveable in the meantime because removing the module breaks the FlexRay bus) or buying a new module for €363 inc shipping and returning the old one for "approx" €300 credit. The dongle can't be returned for a refund once it's been used so (with little choice) I chose the second option and the new image processing module seems to work fine once coded with VCDS - speed limits are now shown in the DIS and HUD. I haven't sent my old module back yet so don't know exactly how much credit I'll get.

The image processing module is a bit fiddly to change because it's hidden under the carpet in the passenger footwell. You can get to it by removing the sill trim but it's awkward. I copied my coding from the old module to the new one using VCDS and so far it seems OK - fortunately the Lane Assist camera calibration is stored in the camera module behind the rear view mirror, not the image processing unit so no recalibration is required.

I don't know exactly which image processing modules are and aren't compatible with traffic sign recognition but my old module was part no 4G0 907 107 D and the new one is marked 4G0 907 107 E (the D is crossed out)! I found a VCDS scan from someone else in this thread and their image processing module was also a revision E so that (or later revisions) should be OK. Revision D or earlier won't work without an update.

For reference, you can find the part number of your image processing module (8E) using VCDS. This was a scan of my old one - notice the SW version:

Address 8E: Image Processing (J851) Labels: 4G0-907-107.clb
Part No SW: 4G0 907 107 D HW: 4H0 907 107

M1tchy
12-05-2015, 11:34 PM
Wow, that's a whole lot of pain! If I remember rightly it does state that it won't work with software version D or below on the listing.


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Hellodave.
12-05-2015, 11:38 PM
Wow, that's a whole lot of pain! If I remember rightly it does state that it won't work with software version D or below on the listing.

It states:


At faulty recognition of the traffic signs, the control unit for image processing need to be updated. (up to index D)

Which is a bit vague! I read it as "if your control unit doesn't work, we'll update it to index D" - as my unit was rev D I thought it would be fine. As you say, it actually means you need index E or above.

M1tchy
12-05-2015, 11:40 PM
Ah my bad, yes that's far more vague than I remember! Glad you got it sorted anyway.


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Uberman
14-05-2015, 07:38 PM
Did anyone ever find out what the Kufatec Dongle actually changes? Or is it a case of buy the dongle and then still have to fiddle around bit to get it to work fully?

smassart
01-07-2015, 12:54 PM
It seems that the problem come from the navigation system. Even if you have an old 8E module, you can have traffic sign recognitions working by disabling the navigation datas (select a database of another country in the mmi green menu). Of course this is not an ideal solution because you cannot have at the same time speed limits recognition and navigation working.

darkyuk
18-07-2015, 07:11 PM
I had a look at my coding this afternoon following strange fuel consumption readings and it seems that where I had the coding 1 (5th digit in) dictates what fuel tank you have. It shows 00 is A6 01 is A7 and 02 is A8 so changed it back to 01 and will see what happens. (Hope I don't run out of fuel!!)

Hi Mitch,

You have the larger fuel tank on your A7 don't you as mine is set to the A6 setting.....

Andy

M1tchy
18-07-2015, 07:15 PM
I do yes. I changed to 02 and it was back to normal and getting 650+ miles from a tank again with no problems so really happy with the retrofit! [emoji3]


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949BFN
12-09-2015, 11:14 AM
Hi Guys
I’m new to the forum, but have been following this thread for some time and eventually ordered this unit (the Euro version) from Kufatec for my 2015 S8: Kodier Interface Verkehrszeichenerkennung VZE-40225_M (https://www.kufatec.de/shop/de/diagnosetools/kufatec-diagnose-dongle/volkswagen-audi/kodier-interface-verkehrszeichenerkennung-vze) (I provided Kufatec with my VIN and they suggested this unit)
My S8 has just about every option available (including ACC, which seems to be the essential option to get this to work), apart from Lane Change Assist.
Although the manual for this unit is not available in English (only German), I managed to do most of the coding and changes with the help of this thread and Google Translate. In short, I managed to everything, apart from the very first step, i.e. - 17 Instruments, Long Coding, Byte 05, Bit 2 on. Even the option to show the Traffic Sign in the Heads Up Display is available in the MMI setup menu.
On my car, Address 17, Byte 5, Bit 1 relates to rear spoiler according to long code helper and there is no Bit 2 to change.
Should I be using a different method to code Byte 2?
The rest of the coding worked fine and going into MMI > Driver Assist, I have the Speed limit display option, but it is greyed out and if I go into it, it tells me “The selected system is currently not available”.
I have not connected the Kufatec Module yet, because it warns in its Installation Instructions that the Module should not be plugged in until all.coding has been done correctly. Unfortunately, being a weekend, Kufatec support is closed
Thanks
28713


EDIT / UPDATE:
I went for a drive after doing the above and all of a sudden Speed Limit sign popped up in the Heads Up Display (probably after passing a Speed Limit sign). I passed a few other speed limit signs and low and behold, the speed limit sign in the Heads Up Display changes to the correct speed each time I passed a speed limit sign. This is working without having plugged in the Kufatec module yet!
28715


However, I do not get any indication in the instrument panel of the posted speed, only this:
28716

Could it be that that is the purpose of the Kufatec Module, i.e. to get the Traffic sign to show in the instrument panel, or do I not get the speed displayed because of the issue I have to code Address 17?
What do you guys see for Bit 2 when going to Address 17, Byte 05?

Current coding of Address 17: 338F0802BF410008010100

(The Speed Limit Display option in the MMI setup is no longer greyed out and if I click on it, I get some or other option about trailer speed limit signs.)

Doing a scan of the Instrument Controller (Address 17), shows the following errors:
2 Faults Found:


13636608 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
U1014 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 117
Mileage: 12573 km
Date: 2015.09.12
Time: 09:39:07


16776979 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 157
Mileage: 12573 km
Date: 2015.09.12
Time: 09:46:24

Disstrict
04-12-2015, 12:49 PM
Hey guys, do You know if its possible to code the traffic recognition, when I do not have the lane assist? I have the camera in the windshield, that is used with the adaptive high beams, so was thinking that this camera could be used for the recognition but this feature is just disabled"? or is that a completely different cam? I also do not have the ACC :/

thanks!

Hellodave.
04-12-2015, 12:56 PM
Hey guys, do You know if its possible to code the traffic recognition, when I do not have the lane assist? I have the camera in the windshield, that is used with the adaptive high beams, so was thinking that this camera could be used for the recognition but this feature is just disabled"? or is that a completely different cam? I also do not have the ACC :/

thanks!
I think the lane assist and high beam cameras are different - the lane assist camera is a wide unit above the rear view mirror.

In any case traffic sign recognition won't work without acc or lane assist because you need the image processing unit (address 8E on a VCDS scan) to interpret the signs. This is a separate control unit under the passenger floor and won't be fitted as part of high beam assist.

To be sure do a VCDS scan - if you don't have an 8E "image processing" module you're out of luck.

M1tchy
04-12-2015, 12:57 PM
Beat me to it!

^^^what he says


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Disstrict
04-12-2015, 01:01 PM
oh what a shame :( anyway, thanks a lot for Your prompt replies :o

949BFN
04-12-2015, 07:50 PM
I don't have lane assist / departure either, but do have Adaptive Cruise Control and was able to enable the Traffic Recognition function. (I believe the Image Processing module (8E) forms part of adaptive cruise control, because my vehicle has the 8E module). But I agree, that without module 8E, you will not be able to enable Traffic Sign Recognition.
By the way, I had a horrific experience playing around with the Traffic Sign Recognition business.
I came to the conclusion that the possibility of enabling Traffic Sign Recognition (TR), depends on the country code of the vehicle (or probably the navigation database). (My vehicle has the South African navigation database).
Simply doing the coding as explained in the first post, got TR working in my vehicle (i.e. without requiring the Kufatec TR module.)I do however get an warning "TR limited functionality" and I was hoping that the Kufatec module would get rid of the warning. BIG MISTAKE.
After plugging in the Kufatec module, I lost the adaptive cruise control. I had to reverse the coding which enabled the TR to work to get the adaptive cruise control working again. In short, the Kufatec TR module messed up my 8E module.
Many emails were exchanged with Kufatec and they even at some stage checked my coding (the dialed into my PC running the VCDS software with Teamviewer). This was after about 3 weeks of exchanging emails with them. At that stage, they all of a sudden decided that I purchased a module not intended for South African vehicles and I am to blame for the issue. I begged them to provide me with a Kufatec module that would reverse the coding of their TR module (for which I was prepared to pay for again), but they were not interested in assisting me any further.
The would not even tell me which control unit of the vehicle was affected by the Kufatec module.
After many hours of searching the internet and thinking this over, I decided that the Kufatec programming module probably changed the coding of the Image Processing (8E) unit. I ordered a new camera / Image Processing unit (the figured out that the Image Processing unit forms part of the camera assembly) (obviously an expensive piece of kit). Fortunately my guess was correct. After replacing this unit, I was able to enable the TR function again without losing adaptive cruise control.
I came to the conclusion (but do not have firm confirmation) that in some countries it is possible to enable the TR function by simply changing the coding (Like South Africa and Switzerland), whilst in others it cannot be enabled without the dreaded (for me) Kufatec module. My suspicion is that it has something to do with the Nav database - if it does NOT contain speed limit data, the TR can be enabled by simply applying the coding in the first post of this thread. (It works fine and the speed limit is displayed in the Heads Up Display as well as in the instrument cluster, but it does give a warning that the TR system has limited functionality.)
EDIT: After reading Helodave’s post again, I suddenly realised that I might be mistaken about the Image processing unit forming part of the camera. I simply asked my dealer to order and replace the image processing unit, believing that that would mean replacing the actual camera. I did not get the parts back, else I suppose I would have realised that it does not form part of the camera.

watronik7
19-12-2015, 09:21 PM
Do we have any update regaridng full working solution for traffic recognition? Coding described in first few posts does a half the tric only.

watronik7
22-12-2015, 12:22 PM
I have done some research and I believe traffic sign recognition can be unlocked via VCDS and some changes in hidden green menu. Could someone who has this option available be able to confirm some configurations in VCDS and hidden menu?. I could prepare list of checks once volunteer found

M1tchy
22-12-2015, 03:46 PM
I did some VCDS mods and then bought a dongle from kufatec which enabled it fully. Not compared before and after scans yet.


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watronik7
22-12-2015, 10:23 PM
Hi M1tchy,
All I need is to compare some of your settings after activation with my setting before activation. I have seen some working coding for VW so it must be an option for Audi as well. Could you please confirm what information you have in hidden menu (you can reply referring to relevant numbers from my list below)

Go to hidden menu as listed below and confirm status of “Traffic sign recognition (VZE)”



Car/ carmenuoperation
Car/ carbusassignment
Car/ cardevicelist

M1tchy
22-12-2015, 10:32 PM
Yes no problem. I'm off on holiday tomorrow and away from the car already so will do it when I'm back. Only away for 5 days though [emoji106]🏻


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Darren14
01-02-2016, 06:25 PM
Re activating the Traffic Sign Recognition; does anyone have the English instructions for the Kufatec diagnostic interface dongle? Thanks

divxman
15-02-2016, 10:37 AM
Hello,

First of all sorry if my english is bad, because it is not my native language.

I am trying to activate traffic sign recognition or VZE on audi a6 c7 and on audi a7 for some time now but with no sucess. From all forums that I visited, this thread has the most informations about activating traffic sign recognition, so I decided to share my researches:

- I speak with the our local dealer for kufatec and I learned that this dongle is basicly an diagnostic tool, that you connect to the obd computer, and the coding is sent to the car. So basicly there is just the coding for activation of the traffic sign recognition and it should be done only with coding.
- I found a lot of settings for traffic sign recognition in 8E controller>Adaptation menu. A lot of things regarding traffic sign recognition is set to "not active", but i can not activate it, because I do not have security access code (security code 20103 only work for adaptations regarding to lane assist). Maybe M1tchy can post what he has enabeled in 8E adaptation, after he used kufatec dongle. And please post the security code if someone have it.
- I found a german forum (http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/tempolimitanzeige-nachruesten-t3620311.html?page=5), where some guy name scotty18 claimed that he activated traffic sign recognition using original audi diagnostic tool with parameterization of the camera 8E (I only read this thread with google translate, so I mybe did not understand this right). I have access to the original audi diagnostic tool, but I do not know where to start this parameterization, because I never done that. Any info about that would be nice.

Any other information from other useres would be helpful.

Have a nice day

divxman
22-02-2016, 03:19 PM
No additional info from anyone?? I belive we can crack this feature.

divxman
16-03-2016, 07:34 PM
Another intersting thing regardin Traffic Sign Recognition, that was posted in another forum:


Aftre coding this:

- 17 Instruments, Long Coding, Byte 05, Bit 2 on
- 8E Image Processing, Long Coding, Byte 02, Bit 0 on
- MMI Hidden Menu: car/cardevicelist, VZE on
- MMI Hidden Menu: car/carmenuoperation, VZE => 5

With only this, the error message "out of area..." is displayed and no traffic sign recognition occurs.

At this step, an interesting thing can be done :

Open the green menu, then go in "nav>Update database" and select "default" as Nav database, reboot the MMI, then VZE is working!
unfortunately navigation says "incompatible database".
You can go back to the green menu to select the right database version and reboot to have again navigation working, but then again "out of area" for VZE.
It permits anyway to play with the traffic sign recognition.
Next step: having VZE and nav at the same time!

It seems that there is something wrong in the communication between module 17 / 8E and 5F regarding the speed limit informations from the database and the speed limit signs recognition.

divxman
18-03-2016, 08:11 PM
Ok I did try to put maps to default in green menu and I can conform that after that traffic sign recognition is working. I hope someone have some more info or suggestion because I am alone in this thread for some time now! :)

watronik7
18-03-2016, 10:05 PM
Divixman, I am happy to get involved but given the level of information here and on other forums all we need to put it forward is VCDS scan and green menu settings confirmatiom from someone who has this option activated. Unfortunatelly so far noone want to help. I am quite sure that this can be activeta via correct coding only

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divxman
19-03-2016, 04:19 PM
Hello,

Just to say that I do not recomend that you set your map do default in green menu like i said in post #114, because I had a lot of troubles getting my navi back to work normaly.

audi100
25-08-2016, 02:40 PM
Hi,

After I did the "vze_enable_a6_fl.PVCPScript" with VCP I got all the menus in FIS and MMI but I can not use the VZE, it only say that "VZE is not available"
Anyone had the same problem?

divxman
27-08-2016, 08:38 AM
Hello,

I do not have any experiances with VCP, only VCDS. But can I ask where did you get this script?

I am thinking that this script makes automatic coding to the channels described in the first post of this thread. You now have enebeled all of the menus, but as I read on some german forum, you must also get some adaptations on the 8E-camera software an it can not be done with just a simple coding.

Unitll I do not know what this script has changed to your coding I can not help you much.

audi100
27-08-2016, 08:50 AM
I got this script from VCP support, I have now got some more info from VCP forum and will try to do the rest om the coding

divxman
27-08-2016, 09:32 AM
That is some good news. Please let me know on PM or in this thread, if you will enable this feature, because I am very interested in enebeling it.

Have a nice day.

watronik7
27-08-2016, 03:08 PM
Gents. Coul you please share your knowledge on this forum not just PM. I am interested in this solutipn too. Many thanks.

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audi100
27-08-2016, 03:52 PM
Hi
Yes, I got the VZE working :Blush:
If there is someone with VCP that need more info I can sopport.
I fixed this with the help of TBAx and Chris R14 at the VCP forum, Thank you guys :beerchug:

watronik7
27-08-2016, 06:33 PM
Hi
Yes, I got the VZE working :Blush:
If there is someone with VCP that need more info I can sopport.
I fixed this with the help of TBAx and Chris R14 at the VCP forum, Thank you guys :beerchug:
Coul you please describe working solution here and attach any files if required?.

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audi100
27-08-2016, 06:41 PM
Hi
Do you have VCP, otherwise I can not help you?

Coul you please describe working solution here and attach any files if required?.

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watronik7
27-08-2016, 06:46 PM
Hi
Do you have VCP, otherwise I can not help you?
Not yet buy may get one if required. What is the VCP?

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audi100
27-08-2016, 06:55 PM
Not yet buy may get one if required. What is the VCP?

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It is Vag Can Professional, something like VCDS, there you got all the files you need, but you need VCP to program all ECU

AT.
27-08-2016, 08:37 PM
It is Vag Can Professional, something like VCDS, there you got all the files you need, but you need VCP to program all ECU

Can you please share with us the link for that forum/topic?

audi100
27-08-2016, 10:11 PM
You must own a Vcp to get acsess to forum
address https://www.vcp-forum.de/index.php?sid=0d2c9c0c169cbf280b3b527ca6be57d8

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divxman
06-09-2016, 08:59 PM
So did you manage to activate traffic sign assist?

audi100
07-09-2016, 05:56 AM
Yes I did :-)

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divxman
25-09-2016, 05:46 PM
I just want to know, why I would need to have vcp and why I can not do it with vcds? if there is just a coding problem then all we need to know is some adaptations, bit changes and mybe securitiy codes. Can you please share this?

divxman
31-10-2016, 04:50 PM
Can somebody please give some more infos about enebeling traffic sign recognition? I do not own a VCP so I can not access the forum in a previous post from user audi100.

Dangerell
28-11-2016, 12:27 PM
Yes I did :-)

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Hi there,

Congratz! Can you please help me activate it too on my A6 4G MMI 3G+?

I did my best on other topic but got stuck, i think something is missing in activating the area (Europe).

A6 C7 VCDS Tricks - Page 64 (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/132245-A6-C7-VCDS-Tricks?p=1015222#post1015222)

Thank you!

itwasntme187
05-12-2016, 08:25 PM
@audi100 HI, I have VCP but unable to find the info to enable the Traffic Recognition.. can you help?

malexgti
09-12-2016, 11:39 AM
Hello,

First of all sorry if my english is bad, because it is not my native language.

I am trying to activate traffic sign recognition or VZE on audi a6 c7 and on audi a7 for some time now but with no sucess. From all forums that I visited, this thread has the most informations about activating traffic sign recognition, so I decided to share my researches:

- I speak with the our local dealer for kufatec and I learned that this dongle is basicly an diagnostic tool, that you connect to the obd computer, and the coding is sent to the car. So basicly there is just the coding for activation of the traffic sign recognition and it should be done only with coding.
- I found a lot of settings for traffic sign recognition in 8E controller>Adaptation menu. A lot of things regarding traffic sign recognition is set to "not active", but i can not activate it, because I do not have security access code (security code 20103 only work for adaptations regarding to lane assist). Maybe M1tchy can post what he has enabeled in 8E adaptation, after he used kufatec dongle. And please post the security code if someone have it.
- I found a german forum (http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/tempolimitanzeige-nachruesten-t3620311.html?page=5), where some guy name scotty18 claimed that he activated traffic sign recognition using original audi diagnostic tool with parameterization of the camera 8E (I only read this thread with google translate, so I mybe did not understand this right). I have access to the original audi diagnostic tool, but I do not know where to start this parameterization, because I never done that. Any info about that would be nice.

Any other information from other useres would be helpful.

Have a nice day


- that security code 20103 is only for codding
- for adaptations try s1234 or s12345

Good luck!

audi100
09-12-2016, 02:05 PM
@audi100 HI, I have VCP but unable to find the info to enable the Traffic Recognition.. can you help?
Hi
IT is all at the Engish VCP forum, good luck😁

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stifii
19-02-2017, 06:57 PM
Hello,

Just to say that I do not recomend that you set your map do default in green menu like i said in post #114, because I had a lot of troubles getting my navi back to work normaly.


Hi,
How do You activate back navi? I've changed to default and after that changed to my proper region and after restart navi still not working. It says: navigation is initialising...

AT.
20-02-2017, 08:42 AM
Hi,
How do You activate back navi? I've changed to default and after that changed to my proper region and after restart navi still not working. It says: navigation is initialising...

I had this feeling, and I found I changed the MAP REGION to "Default" or something like this. There are TWO sections in the green menu (I don't remember, may check for you if you will not find) which refers to the region settings, BOTH OF THEM should be the same, as in other cases, the NAV will stuck just like you mentioned.

I hope it helps you to solve the problem.

stifii
25-06-2017, 10:46 AM
If someone changed Map Region and NAVI doesn't work sollution is - changing Map Region to the original setting, and reinstalling map.

After few months I've done retrofitting traffic sign recognition, and both works navi and VZE. The things what must to do is that what someone earlier wrote - parametrization with VCP must be done and everything works. But now I've got only error on Board Computer in error section which means "speed limit display : currently restricted", but signs ares shown etc.

Have somebody idea how to loose this error?

stifii
26-06-2017, 10:17 AM
But now I've got only error on Board Computer in error section which means "speed limit display : currently restricted", but signs ares shown etc.

Have somebody idea how to loose this error?

After multiple settings I delete that error. If someone have too this problem the sollutions is change Adaptation in 8E - find in the list "road sign detection fusion mode" change the value to "fusion".

Retrofit in my example is done in 100% and everyting works with no error !

M1tchy
26-06-2017, 07:45 PM
Can you share what you did?


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buddyboy
26-06-2017, 09:16 PM
I might try this on mine if i have the correct modules, ill check that in the morning when the monsoon passes!

divxman
31-07-2017, 07:01 PM
Hello stifii,

I did the coding on 8E channel and changed road sign detection to fusion mode, but I still get the error on Board Computer "speed limit display: currently restricted". Can you please tell what other coding you done beside parameterization with VCP? Traffic sign detection is working on my car (with error mentioned on board computer) and there is also problem, that traffic signs are only working with data that i get from camera recognition, but I think that correct way would be to work with combination of traffic sign recognition and signs from navi database. I can say that there is a lot better signs information in navi database, that I get from traffic signs recognition from camera.

stifii
21-08-2017, 11:59 AM
Can you share what you did?


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I've done all coding, after that I've made parametrization with VCP, and set to fusion mode, and everything works fine


Hello stifii,

I did the coding on 8E channel and changed road sign detection to fusion mode, but I still get the error on Board Computer "speed limit display: currently restricted". Can you please tell what other coding you done beside parameterization with VCP? Traffic sign detection is working on my car (with error mentioned on board computer) and there is also problem, that traffic signs are only working with data that i get from camera recognition, but I think that correct way would be to work with combination of traffic sign recognition and signs from navi database. I can say that there is a lot better signs information in navi database, that I get from traffic signs recognition from camera.

That's true, before I had set to fusion mode , my traffic sign recognition too was only detect info from signs not from navi. But after set to fusion mode it takes signs from navi and there is no error. Try this what I post in PM. If not works we can compare Yours coding and mine

949BFN
21-08-2017, 01:32 PM
Hello stifii,

Can you please tell what other coding you done beside parameterization with VCP? .

I'm trying to get VZE to work on my (new) 2017 Q5, but so far without any luck. Have tried all possible codings I could get hold of on the internet. I have seen the reference to "parameterization" of the camera before, but have been unable to find any info on how that is done and when it is required. I have searched for hours, but get no more than a reference to it. I have opened a support ticket with VCP, but have not heard from them in 5 days - hopefully, they're working on a solution!

Would you mind elaborating on this, please? (I have a VCP interface.)

stifii
22-08-2017, 02:25 PM
I'm trying to get VZE to work on my (new) 2017 Q5, but so far without any luck. Have tried all possible codings I could get hold of on the internet. I have seen the reference to "parameterization" of the camera before, but have been unable to find any info on how that is done and when it is required. I have searched for hours, but get no more than a reference to it. I have opened a support ticket with VCP, but have not heard from them in 5 days - hopefully, they working on a solution!

Would you mind elaborating on this, please? (I have a VCP interface.)


Did You try this ? :

Unit A5
Security Access 20103
Coding
Byte01
Enable Bit 0
Adaption
find in the menu "display end of speed limit symbol" change the value to "active"
find in the menu "display no passing allowed" change the value to "active"
find in the menu "road sign detection fusion mode" change the value to "fusion"
find in the menu "display valid additional signs" and check if the value is 00100111

949BFN
22-08-2017, 02:34 PM
Yes, I have tried this.

It is at this step that things go wrong when coding the Q5. I can't remember the details anymore, but as far as I can remember, I could not find these adaptions:

find in the menu "display end of speed limit symbol" change the value to "active"
find in the menu "display no passing allowed" change the value to "active"

And this one is definitely missing:
find in the menu "display valid additional signs" and check if the value is 00100111

Thanks for your reply.

949BFN
22-08-2017, 03:24 PM
Yes, I did.

It is at that stage where the coding becomes an issue on the Q5.

If I remember correctly, I could not find the "display end of speed limit symbol" and "display no passing allowed" adaptions. And there is definitely no "display valid additional signs" adaption.

Suppose they are called something else in case of the Q5, but I carefully went through the list and could not find anything similar.

Thanks for your response.

Premium
27-10-2017, 09:34 PM
On my car, Address 17, Byte 5, Bit 1 relates to rear spoiler according to long code helper and there is no Bit 2 to change.
Should I be using a different method to code Byte 2?

Have not connected the kaufatec dongle yet...

Premium
28-10-2017, 12:54 PM
Got help from the ross tech forum!
Here is the solution for this issue:
Change LCode Bit - YouTube (https://youtu.be/DvOzrKx7Tu0)

Bailsdownunder
05-11-2017, 07:00 AM
Hi, I also have a Q5 FY and live in Australia, none of the following Unit A5 adaptations show in the list of choices:
"display end of speed limit symbol" change the value to "active"
"display no passing allowed" change the value to "active"
"display valid additional signs" and check if the value is 00100111

However the following Unit A5 adaptation does show in the choices:
"road sign detection fusion mode" change the value to "fusion"

Is anyone able to assist with identifying what the cause of this problem might be?

Thanks.

hulasty
29-11-2017, 09:53 PM
Hello, i have a problem to coding traffic signs in a6 Bj. 2012
Can you give me instructions on how you can encode it? (audi100)
I have a VCP
My Image Driver 8E - 4G0907107B
when trying to load the VCP data controller is a write error.

Thank You for any help

Premium
29-11-2017, 10:38 PM
The 8E module has to be xxxxxxxD or higher. You need to get the camera software updated or replaced with a newer one.. I’ve got xxxxxxxE and had no problems regarding to the coding.

stifii
29-11-2017, 10:40 PM
Have You done parametrization like in the video :
Afs parametrization by Vag Can Pro - YouTube (https://youtu.be/DhjRljStu6o)

hulasty
29-11-2017, 11:40 PM
No problem. I have 4g0907107e.frf. I can flash on xxxxxxxxxE. Only vcp has no file for parameterization E. There is only B and D.

watronik7
30-11-2017, 12:36 AM
No problem. I have 4g0907107e.frf. I can flash on xxxxxxxxxE. Only vcp has no file for parameterization E. There is only B and D.Ask VCP support (submit support ticket) for missing ZDC files. All versions are available.
I have just retrofited this to my A7 2010. I will be posting full in depth guide within a week or so (I am currently writing an update to ALA retrofit)

Check on VCP forum if you can flash B to any higher SW. I have just damaged my 4H0907107 by flashing with 4G0907107F using VCP so be careful!

B version support Traffic Singns so no flashing should be required.

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watronik7
30-11-2017, 12:39 AM
Ask VCP support (submit support ticket) for missing ZDC files. All versions are available.
I have just retrofited this to my A7 2010. I will be posting full in depth guide within a week or so (I am currently writing an update to ALA retrofit)

Check on VCP forum if you can flash B to any higher SW. I have just damaged my 4H0907107 by flashing with 4G0907107F using VCP so be careful!

B version support Traffic Singns so no flashing should be required.

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hulasty
30-11-2017, 09:45 AM
My cam sw: 4G0907217

watronik7
30-11-2017, 09:53 AM
Your camera does support Trafgic Singns

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hulasty
30-11-2017, 10:12 AM
I flashed the 8e driver on 4G0907107E
I wrote to the VCP support for ZDC to "E" We will see what they will answer.

smallpii
28-12-2017, 10:05 AM
Activate successfully with VCDS!
Traffic signs display is working~
2012 A6 4G c7 TDI
Thanks for your help ^^

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Dangerell
28-12-2017, 12:52 PM
Cool!

Can you please provide all coding steps for this? I want to do the same on my A8L 4H 2011.

Thank you!

smallpii
29-12-2017, 05:16 AM
Cool!

Can you please provide all coding steps for this? I want to do the same on my A8L 4H 2011.

Thank you!


There are just 3 steps have to do on My 2012 a6 c7 (RMC MMI).

I can see the options is like "Traffic sign Recognize ...... installed" in the 3 controllers.

- 8E Image Processing, Long Coding
- 82 HUD, Long Coding
- 17 Instruments, Long Coding

After actived, It is working ^^

Good luck and Enjoy it.

watronik7
05-01-2018, 12:26 AM
OK guys. So far a lot of discussion about this topic but no results so it is time to reveal the secret. See my step by step guide here: Dropbox - Audi Traffic Sign Recognition Retrofit Guide rev1.pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qknhhif473jbpf/Audi%20Traffic%20Sign%20Recognition%20Retrofit%20G uide%20rev1.pdf?dl=0)

Rev 01 added today 24.08.2018
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qknhhif473jbpf/Audi%20Traffic%20Sign%20Recognition%20Retrofit%20G uide%20rev1.pdf?dl=0)

Premium
05-01-2018, 08:32 AM
Nice writeup/guide!! I had to buy the dongle to get mine to work, but I only got the vcds tool and not the other coding tool available..

Is it possible to get the other traffic signs showing? I only get speed limit signs. With vcds??

watronik7
05-01-2018, 09:23 AM
So far on my local journeys I got only speed limits. But in adaptation channels they are options for:

- end of speed limit sign
- no overtaking sign
- supplementary signs e.g showing time when the speed limit is applicable or weather conditions

To change the above you can use VCDS only as per instructions in the guide.

I ended up buying VCP interface which was just a bit more expensive than Kufatec dongle and now I can use it for lots of other things above VCDS.

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AT.
05-01-2018, 04:11 PM
OK guys. So far a lot of discussion about this topic but no results so it is time to reveal the secret. See my step by step guide here: Dropbox - Audi Traffic Sign Recognition Retrofit Guide rev0.pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/s/tayt7dbradjksbk/Audi%20Traffic%20Sign%20Recognition%20Retrofit%20G uide%20rev0.pdf?dl=0)

Wow, what a magnificent and quality Christmas gift, thank you :)

watronik7
05-01-2018, 04:14 PM
Wow, what a magnificent and quality Christmas gift, thank you :)Indeed, I did it over Christmas. Every little helps :)

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divxman
28-01-2018, 06:49 PM
Hello Watronik7,

I used your guide and my traffic sign recogntion is still not working. I still get "out of operational" area message. I am living in Slovenia, I have Audi A7 2010 with lane assist and adaptive cruise control and my 8E camera have the number 4g0907107b (so traffic sign should work). I have both VCP and VCDS so I did all the steps described in the guide. I have all the menus in the mmi and instrument cluster, but there is no traffic sign recognition working.

Have any idea?

audi100
28-01-2018, 07:48 PM
Hello Watronik7,

I used your guide and my traffic sign recogntion is still not working. I still get "out of operational" area message. I am living in Slovenia, I have Audi A7 2010 with lane assist and adaptive cruise control and my 8E camera have the number 4g0907107b (so traffic sign should work). I have both VCP and VCDS so I did all the steps described in the guide. I have all the menus in the mmi and instrument cluster, but there is no traffic sign recognition working.

Have any idea?Sorry, I had problem myself but when I did it as I described, it works for me [emoji4]

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watronik7
28-01-2018, 08:35 PM
Hello Watronik7,

I used your guide and my traffic sign recogntion is still not working. I still get "out of operational" area message. I am living in Slovenia, I have Audi A7 2010 with lane assist and adaptive cruise control and my 8E camera have the number 4g0907107b (so traffic sign should work). I have both VCP and VCDS so I did all the steps described in the guide. I have all the menus in the mmi and instrument cluster, but there is no traffic sign recognition working.

Have any idea?

Camera based TRS works in conjunction with speed limit data saved in navigation database. Before you have activated camera based TSR, did you see speed limits on MMI screen (see page 1 of my gude)?

From manual and relevant SSP (Self Study Programme): The message text "Speed limit indicator: outside area of application" appears if the vehicle is in a country that is not supported by the speed limit indicator. The speed limit indicator determines which country the vehicle is in from the predictive route data in the navigation system.

Slovenia may be one of the unsupported country. To be 100% sure I suggest you contact your local Audi dealer and ask. They should be able to answer as the TSR is optional extra and if unsupported in Slovenia, it should no be available.

Alternatively if you navigation database does not contain signs, then you may try to update your navigation to the lates version available. The latest available database I can find in internet is 6.25.3 (2017/2018) but you my try one of the previous one e.g. 6.24.2 (2017) or 6.22.4 (2016). There is a lot of guide in internet how to update MMI nav database.

divxman
29-01-2018, 09:58 AM
Hello,

My answers in short:
- I updated my navi to 6.24.2 last year so it is more or less updated
- before I started to activate ASR I had signs in navi screen of my MMI, but now when is activated I have not. (is it possible to still have it in my mmi when TSR is activated?)
- I remember that on prefacelited audi A6,A7,A8 there was no posibility for TSR to work in our county (Slovenia), but I think that is now working on facelifted cars (but I contacted VCP support a while a go and they said that if I enable in channel 5F -byte 16 bit 2 and bit 3 TSR should work - when I did this it started to working, but it was not working in conjunction with speed limit data in navi data base, but only speed limits detected by the camera so it was useless, because for example I had still 70 km/h speed limit when hitting in to the city and there was no change to the 50 km/h speed limit. So with the modification mentonied above I have only managed to disable to geting the info from camera and navi to only getting info from camera.)

Is there a chance to change this info which county is supported and additional is it possible to update my camera to the more updated firmware, so it will maybe support my country?

Thank you for your answers in advance.

watronik7
29-01-2018, 01:43 PM
Under normal circumstances once camera based TSR activated signs are only displayed in Driver Information Display (dashboard). Apparently there is a way that signs can also be displayed on MMI screen but this may limit display of some of the additional signs in DIS. I am going to test this feature soon and if successful then I will update the guide.

I have listed all available part No's for camera module. As far as I am aware currently there is no sgo/frf firmware files available for camera module update. If you camera module begins with 4H....then you may try to upgrade it to the latest 4H0907217F from fecelifted module but you would have to do it at he main dealer via SVM. Be aware there is no guarantee that this will resolve your problem. Furthermore, facelifted frimware may not work with pre facelifted modules

Unfortunately, I have no further details regarding which elements of the system relating to supported/unsupported countries. But upgrading camera module 85 and perhaps image processing module 8E to face lifted models may be a good starting point. Alternatively you could get second hand parts and replace these units but be aware that camera will require precise calibration at the main dealer.

Ghevin
19-03-2018, 12:10 AM
So, the problem is solved only with VCDS + VCP!
Is it possible to solve it only with VCDS?
Thank you!

watronik7
19-03-2018, 12:23 AM
So, the problem is solved only with VCDS + VCP!
Is it possible to solve it only with VCDS?
Thank you!

You need VCDS and VCP in order to activate it in line with my guide. The key element is parametrization which can only be done using VCP.

pierrotori
25-03-2019, 06:38 PM
Hi watronik7

The retrofit guide on Audi Traffic Sign Recognition is very good guide. Well done !
I have a A6 4G from 2011 with Lane Assist
Adresse 85: Cam. Embarquée (J852)
No. pièce Log: 4G0 907 217 Mat: 4H0 907 217 A H24 0036
Adresse 8E: Traitement Image (J851)
No. pièce Log: 4G0 907 107 D Mat: 4H0 907 107 H30 0038

I have the message in ODB :
no speed limitation and next out of range of operation

The problem perhaps is the version 38 of the control module 4G0907107D
I don't find a trt or zdc file to flash in V41 the 4G0907107D

The question is it possible to activate the traffic sign recognition with my configuration ?

Pierrotori

watronik7
26-03-2019, 12:08 AM
You have got this message because you did not performed parametrization of unit 8E. Follow up Step 5 of my instruction. If you cannot find required .zdc file for your unit in your VCP, then contact VCP support via email and they will make all available .zdc files to be visible in your VCP File Management.

pierrotori
05-05-2019, 11:49 PM
can i flash the version from calculator 4G0907107 E to the calculator version 4G0907107 D ?

watronik7
06-05-2019, 08:16 PM
As far as I am aware it is not recommended to downgrade the frimware. Why do you want to flash down from E do D?

pierrotori
06-05-2019, 09:51 PM
because i needed the V41 version on my calculator
Adresse 8E: Traitement Image (J851)
No. pièce Log: 4G0 907 107 D Mat: 4H0 907 107 H30 0038
i would like to update to
No. VAG du calculateur: 4G0 907 107 E Mat: 4H0 907 107
Pièce et/ou version: BV-SG H30 0041

​i have those file
FL_4G0907107E__0041.frf
FL_4G0907107C__0036.frf
FL_4G0907107D__0038.frf
FL_4G0907107B__0034.frf
FL_4G0907107___0026.frf


no downgrade, i would like use FL_4G0907107E__0041.frf to flash 4G0 907 107 D

watronik7
06-05-2019, 10:18 PM
Ok. You can upgrade from D to E but be aware that as always with any firmware upgrade there is a risk of bricking your control unit. Traffic sign recognition should work with your ver D of the 8E unit so just to make sure you follow all the steps of my instruction. If you use clone VCP be aware that there is no support for it and I have already heard about communication an nuance issues with some of the clones.

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pierrotori
06-05-2019, 10:52 PM
i don't have vcp and in your instruction, i must update with the file a6_c7_imageProcessor_Camera_4g0907107d.zdc but is it a V41 version for the D calculator ?

watronik7
06-05-2019, 10:58 PM
Hardware version of 8E is irrelevant as long as software version is correct. If you do not have VCP you will not be able to perform parameterization so the system will not work.

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pierrotori
06-05-2019, 11:02 PM
and with ODIS-E ?

watronik7
07-05-2019, 06:57 AM
I thought. zdc files required for parameterization are specific to VCP and they are individually encrypted for each interface so how would you use them in ODIS?

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pierrotori
08-05-2019, 09:20 PM
Hardware version of 8E is irrelevant as long as software version is correct.
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when i activated i have this message : no speed limitation and next out of range of operation

in fact i can't reuse the zdc file in odis

watronik7
08-05-2019, 09:49 PM
Just follow my instruction. You need VCP.

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pierrotori
12-05-2019, 10:21 PM
i download the version 6 but in the directory zdc i have only the file a6_c7_imageProcessor_Camera_4g0907107e.zdc not the version D

What is a version from zdc to have the D version for the image processeur ?

do you know if i can use the header from vcds ?

alexzx
01-06-2019, 01:32 PM
Hi guys, i write from Italy.

I have bought an Audi A6 c7 recently with Active Lane Assist.

I followed the instructions of watronic7 in order to activate TSR and in my MMI 3G Plus i have the correct menu for TSR.
When i select the TRS menu, in my display, i received the message "Speed limit indicator: outside area of
application"

My 8E is an 4G0907107C

I would like to know if buying VCP, with the calibration, could solve my problem

Many thanks
Alessandro

pierrotori
01-06-2019, 01:54 PM
Bogiorno alex
Do you have the pdf?
For me no calibration
Ciao

alexzx
01-06-2019, 02:06 PM
Buongiorno Pierotorri,
yes i have the pdf but i hope that the calibration is possible with the 4G0907107C too...

Ciao
Alessandro

alexzx
01-06-2019, 03:27 PM
Or if I have to buy a 4G0907107D and replace my 8E for
conclude the retrofit.

watronik7
01-06-2019, 04:35 PM
Guys. Just read my instruction and follow all required steps. As I said you need VCP to calibrate and activate the system. If you want just swap your 8E and not to use VCP then you need to make sure the 8E unit comes from the vehicle where TSR wax activated otjwrvise you stlll need VCP to perform calibration.

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alexzx
01-06-2019, 04:45 PM
Yes Watronic7, i know that is necessary VCP for calibration.
I would like confirmation that with my 4G0907107C the operation is possible because I read in your guide that for 4G0907107C there are no files available for calibration.

In your guide i read this:

Note: Although Part No 4G0907107C is supported, currently corresponding ZDC file isnot available, hence parametrization cannot be completed.


Thak you very much for your job Watronik7

Alessandro

watronik7
01-06-2019, 06:57 PM
Once you have genuine VCP you could ask support if C version zdc exist as qute often they provide certain files on request.

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alexzx
01-06-2019, 07:07 PM
I would like to buy a VCP but Just being certain About having the support. If the file doesn't exist for me It would be a problem.

watronik7
01-06-2019, 07:09 PM
I am afraid that is a risk. Alternatively you use VCP to flash your C unit i E unit. Flash files are available on Internet but as always with flashing there is a risk of bricking your unit.

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alexzx
03-06-2019, 04:26 PM
Watronik7, I ordered VCP ;-)

alexzx
15-06-2019, 09:15 AM
Hi guys, Watronik7 with your guide and VCP i activated TSR on my Audi A6 Avant 4G (2012)
The file for 4G0907107C is available in VCP ;-)
Thank you very much!!!
Alessandro

watronik7
15-06-2019, 12:20 PM
Well done [emoji41]

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pierrotori
02-09-2019, 02:38 PM
Hi,

in my side i realize all the step with vcds, but no TSR in the ODB

i understood that the step 5 is missing to put the parameter ZDC file in the calculator image processing 8E
could you confirm to me the different product to buy
- VCPSYSTEM &reg :: VCP CAN PROFESSIONAL :: vcpsystem - VCP CAN PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM manufacturer official shop (https://vcpsystem.com/p99,vcp-can-professional.html) 260€
- download VCP 8.6
- download zdc file a6_c7_imageProcessor_Camera_4g0907107d.zdc if the file is missing

and normaly i can realize the step 5 ?
Thanks
Pierrotori

pierrotori
23-09-2019, 07:09 PM
now it's good the zdc file is upload :)

null
23-10-2019, 09:25 PM
OK guys. So far a lot of discussion about this topic but no results so it is time to reveal the secret. See my step by step guide here: Dropbox - Audi Traffic Sign Recognition Retrofit Guide rev1.pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qknhhif473jbpf/Audi%20Traffic%20Sign%20Recognition%20Retrofit%20G uide%20rev1.pdf?dl=0)

Rev 01 added today 24.08.2018
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qknhhif473jbpf/Audi%20Traffic%20Sign%20Recognition%20Retrofit%20G uide%20rev1.pdf?dl=0)

Thank you very much for posting this! :beerchug:
I have a 2012 A6 with ACC and had lane assist previously retrofitted and working.
I'm in the US & I've gone through the guide and got VCP so I could perform parametarization using "USA_WITH_HEADING_CONTROL_WITH_TRAFFIC_SIGN" for my 8E - 4G0907107D. My Camera is 4H0907217A.

I still keep getting "Currently Restricted", no other errors/faults & I've checked everything. Any ideas?

36311

watronik7
23-10-2019, 11:09 PM
Hi. As I have mentioned in the guide there are areas where the system is not supported despite proper activation. I have read somewhere on the internet that some people in the US have experienced problems with this system. Unfortunately there is no official data describing where system should or should not work properly. If you have done everything as in my instruction I suggest you try to update your MMI and maps to the latest version and drive around to check if this problem refer to your particular location only. Ensure you have properly completed parametrization process as this is a key procedure to activate this system

sarah1331
02-01-2020, 10:39 PM
Can anyone offer pramatisization with VCP ? As a service or by remote?

bosu
23-08-2020, 02:52 PM
hello can you please give me the zdc for 4G0907107C i dont have it in my vcp folder.

thank you

bosu
23-08-2020, 02:54 PM
Hi guys, Watronik7 with your guide and VCP i activated TSR on my Audi A6 Avant 4G (2012)
The file for 4G0907107C is available in VCP ;-)
Thank you very much!!!
Alessandro

hello can you please give me the zdc for 4G0907107C i dont have it in my vcp folder.

thank you

quato79
12-10-2020, 05:12 PM
Hi, can someone help me out here, just followed all instructions to activate VZE on my A8 2013 , have all original installed, not retrofit, but cannot get this TSR working and getting showed on Drive assist,neither on HUD, NOWHERE, only in the MMI hidden settings, in the all related modules TSR is activated, reflashed zdc image processor with a6_imageProcessor_8e_4h0907107f,g.zdc, on the 8E module part no. is 4h0907107F, selected: with HC with TSR RoW option ,but the same ,no TSR menu, double checked every step 2-3 times. What am I missing, should I update MMI firmware to maki it work?
Please any help is greatly appreciated.
Regards

tupacwizard
17-11-2020, 04:36 PM
I have an A6 C7.5 2015, imported from UK to Ireland:


ACC/LDW so all factory hardware should be installed
Did all the necessary adaptions in VCDS
Have not done imageprocessor firmware update
All UI options are turning up correctly
Getting the "outside operational area" probably after GPS is acquired


My question are:

Is the current imageprocessor firmware likely just lacking TSR OR is it working fine but only works within the UK?
Can someone with UK TSR confirm if it works in Ireland or elsewhere in Europe which would mean I'm just missing TSR, or otherwise I would need RoW firmware instead of UK?


I can't find info on C7 generation but C8s sold here can have TSR, so I'd assume it is possible. Just checking before I buy VCP.

xducati
08-03-2022, 12:07 PM
Hello,
could you be so kind and share with me a6_c7_imageProcessor_Camera_4g0907107d.zdc?

Thanks a lot in advance

laurent0613
31-03-2023, 05:35 PM
Parametrization is not mandatory.

If you are retrofitting for example, if you are sourcing your units in EU, making sure that their software versions are at least matching the minimal version needed, no need to reapply parameters.
This is what I have done for my A8 and I have it working fully.

I was about to buy the Kufatec dongle but I managed to understand the last bit that allows the TSR (VZE) to fully work.

Pbes
29-05-2023, 09:05 AM
Please HELP!

I have an A6 Allroad from 2015. I tried to retrofit/activate the TSR, but.. I have a clone of VCP, so in the ZDC folder there is only a E suffix file for the image processor module. I have tried to flash it on my calculator (with the H suffix), but with partial success. The module keeps working, but gives me error messages via VCDS. The only way in my opinion is, that I flash the correct ZDC file, the one with the H suffix. Now, there is a little problem, by getting that, because, I have a clone of VCP device. Pleas, if you could help me by sending the correct ZDC file for my device (4g0907107 E). Thank you.

Mastahh
02-06-2023, 06:00 AM
Hi all,
I have module 4G0907107E and original VCP, but in VCP I have latest version only
a6_c7_imageProcessor_Camera_4g0907107c, anybody tried to activate VZE using older version from VCP?

MyAudiA8L
09-10-2023, 08:33 AM
Hi,
I know that this is an old post, but it's new to me :o
I've tried to activate Traffic Sign Recognition on my 2011 A8 D4. All steps/ recommendations has been followed carefully, used tools: Original VCDS and cloned VCP. Long story short, couldn't get the traffic sign on cluster :Screem::banghead: Seems that I need this script file: vze_enable_a6_fl.PVCPScript and a6_c7_imageProcessor_Camera_4g0907107b
Where can I get this files? Any reply/ suggestion would be much appreciated :notworthy

MyAudiA8L
09-10-2023, 10:29 PM
Hello audi100,
I need this file: vze_enable_a6_fl.PVCPScript and a6_c7_imageProcessor_Camera_4g0907107b can you please help me out? I appreciated.
Best Regards
Corso

MyAudiA8L
11-10-2023, 08:00 AM
Hi Audi 100 :Blush:
I've red all your posts and suggestions about activating ''Traffic Sign Recognition'' Great work, well done :o
I've followed all steps one by one but nothing happened! I've got this error on modul 17: VZE_01 No Communication also this error on cluster: ACC and Audi Brake Guard not Available. So I had to UNDO everything to get rid of those errors. I have factory fitted Camera and Lane Assist.
My image driver 8E is 4G0907107B HW:4H907107 but my VCP does not have ZDC file which is suit to my image drive. I have this one: a6_c7_imageProcessor_Camera_4g0907107e.zdc Which I can not use it to flash my image drive. I'm using cloned VCP (but have original VCDS) and therefore can not ask VCP forum to help me out. I just wondering if you have this file: a6_c7_imageProcessor_Camera_4g0907107b.zdc and if you can help me out. I will be Grateful :Blush:
Best Regards
Corso