Windows Vista

[stuart]

Anyone had problems with Windows Vista today? It appears that myself, and a load of others around the world have had reduced features imposed because of a server fault with the activation of Vista.... It is under the impression that we all have illegal software.:zx11:

It looks like it will be Tuesday BEFORE a company the size of Microsoft will rectify this.....

Disgusted!

[RickT]

That does not sound good...

If you have any links regarding this please share.

RickT

[stuart]

No problem mate, have a look at this lot ;

http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=1004&SiteID=25

It looks like Microsoft are on the case now

http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2054756&SiteID=25

[stuart]

Now fixed;)

[RickT]

Now fixed;)


An Intresting read....

RickT

[stuart]

I think this could cause a few problems for Microsoft, there are a lot of very unhappy customers around the world.....

It was the time it took before anything was done about it that caused the problems, people being told they will have to wait until Tuesday at the earliest. Must admit though, once the member called Phil was on the case, he is in charge of the system I belive, it only took him and his team about 2-3 hours to sort it.

[golf tdi 02]

that is soo tipical of microsoft
macs dont crash :beerchug::beerchug:

[diesel nut]

bill gates for you :biglaugh::biglaugh:

[Ben]

I find this odd. although i've not read the links provided by stuart, i find it difficult to believe that once you have bought and registered you copy of vista, the only way you should encounter problems is if you do something or your pc has a fault. As i understand this issue, when you are online you are permanantly linked to microsoft, so if they have a problem so do you. Which leads me to wonder further....


What else are they monitoring that you are unnaware of?

[onzarob]

I find this odd. although i've not read the links provided by stuart, i find it difficult to believe that once you have bought and registered you copy of vista, the only way you should encounter problems is if you do something or your pc has a fault. As i understand this issue, when you are online you are permanantly linked to microsoft, so if they have a problem so do you. Which leads me to wonder further....


What else are they monitoring that you are unnaware of?

Its part of a downloaded update, so no information was transmitted, just a validation update.

[johnvomit]

I have the solution to these and future issues with Microsoft.

http://tinyurl.com/orjx (http://tinyurl.com/orjx)

I have had great success with the information provided on this site!


john

[onzarob]

I have the solution to these and future issues with Microsoft.

http://tinyurl.com/orjx (http://tinyurl.com/orjx)

I have had great success with the information provided on this site!


john

mmh thats one solution i supose;)

Maybe a little involved for the standard computer user, but i know where your coming from, But don't you think if we all hot tailed it to linux, the hackers/spammers/phishers/virus's will give up:confused:

[johnvomit]

:biglaugh:

what would they do??


Either way, linux is very easy to install and use! We all know that Microsoft owns the desktop, and that most would be apprehensive to make shift from what they are used to...

but try using one of the "live" versions of linux: a bootable CD (or DVD) that can stick in your pc and boot up and try!

http://www.ubuntu.com/

or

http://knoppix.com/


download them... burn them to disk.. and give it a shot.. no install necessary.


if you want to try something slightly more permenant... download vmware server from http://vmware.com/

and run a virtual version...of ANY OS you need... I would be more than happy to help anyone who would want to do this..


john

[MalcQV]

mmh thats one solution i supose;)

Maybe a little involved for the standard computer user, but i know where your coming from, But don't you think if we all hot tailed it to linux, the hackers/spammers/phishers/virus's will give up:confused:

No they won't IMO, MS has a larger user base so they get a bigger hit/kick by hacking Windows, though I admit is probably easier.

[onzarob]

:biglaugh:

what would they do??


Either way, linux is very easy to install and use! We all know that Microsoft owns the desktop, and that most would be apprehensive to make shift from what they are used to...

but try using one of the "live" versions of linux: a bootable CD (or DVD) that can stick in your pc and boot up and try!

http://www.ubuntu.com/

or

http://knoppix.com/


download them... burn them to disk.. and give it a shot.. no install necessary.


if you want to try something slightly more permenant... download vmware server from http://vmware.com/

and run a virtual version...of ANY OS you need... I would be more than happy to help anyone who would want to do this..


john

I don't agree, Linux can be a nightmare, Knoppix is good, with linus you still need to understand a few of the unix/linux basics.

Vmware is great I use it allot, But i'm a IT Consultant and they are great products, Give VMware to a normal user and they will switch off;)


No they won't IMO, MS has a larger user base so they get a bigger hit/kick by hacking Windows, though I admit is probably easier.

I agree MalQV, hackers hack MS products because it affect more people,if more used Linux then they would be the target.

[Eshrules]

i'm not a dunce when it comes to computers, but the last time i downloaded ubuntu and burnt the image to disc (live disc version) it wouldnt install :Blush2:

to be honest, MS has the OS market owned, theres not a single thing out there that will ever touch them. they dominate the market and it would take something very very special to even touch them.

i remember the raving about Linux when it was first announced.... TBH it doesnt seem to have got any further

[MalcQV]

i'm not a dunce when it comes to computers, but the last time i downloaded ubuntu and burnt the image to disc (live disc version) it wouldnt install :Blush2:

Probably tried to burn it on a PC running Windows :p:p


to be honest, MS has the OS market owned, theres not a single thing out there that will ever touch them. they dominate the market and it would take something very very special to even touch them.
Careful with sweeping statements. You, I presume are talking about the desktop market? If so yes they do have the bigger market share by quite a margin.

I use Windows alot and quite like it, but it is down to convenience as my wife and daughter use Windows at work and school respec. So rather than showing them the little differences (from a user perspective) we use Windows. It is this reason that Windows is top, plainly because it was very well marketed in the late 80's and early 90's. Had Steve thingymabob marketed MacOS better we may well have been talking Macs vs Linux and not Windows.

Oh and MS is not special at all, it is popular though!

Best OS out there for reliability balance with ease of use is UNIX/Linux ;), however the OS that is ultra reliable and extremely good though is VMS, not as popular as the rest, again I put it down to marketing.

I am of course talking about servers and not desktops in the above paragraph. Linux Gnome/KDE and Windows have the easiest user interface of all IMO of course.
MacOS too I believe has a very user friendly interface.

[Sam]

I find this odd. although i've not read the links provided by stuart, i find it difficult to believe that once you have bought and registered you copy of vista, the only way you should encounter problems is if you do something or your pc has a fault. As i understand this issue, when you are online you are permanantly linked to microsoft, so if they have a problem so do you. Which leads me to wonder further....


What else are they monitoring that you are unnaware of?

What's even worse is if you change any hardware within the machine upon which Vista has been activated, you'll have to reactivate it again.

If a mobo blows and so on.

[onzarob]

What's even worse is if you change any hardware within the machine upon which Vista has been activated, you'll have to reactivate it again.

If a mobo blows and so on.
Come on Sam that a little like changing the computer, change the motherboord and a call to Microsoft and they will reactivate it for you:)

I just feel MS get bad press because they are so big, Mac were always too expensive in the early days and that was what put the PC in front, then MS shipped dos and windows cheap for them. SCO Xenix/Unix was expensive and no one used it.

(Xenix was a cut down version of Unix to run on low end IBM PCs)

[Sam]

Come on Sam that a little like changing the computer, changing the motherboord and a call to Microsoft and they will reactivate it for you:)

I just feel MS get bad press becuase they are so big, Mac were allway too expensivem in the early days and that what put the PC in front, then MS shipped dos and windows cheap for them. SCO Xenix/Unix was expensive and no one used it.

(Xenix was a cut down version of Unix to run on low end IBM PCs)

I wasn't disputing the reasons at all and understand why. The casual user wont disassemble and reassemble their computer either so most will have no problems at all (with activation at least)

When I'm swapping components in and out on a monthly basis (geek...me?) it gets a bit boring.

I agree they get bad press because they are big though.

I've said it many times before, I'm dual booting Linux and Vista and every member of my family opts to use Linux.

Rob I have a spare keyboard, I've chucked it in a box and posted it to you "onzarob, bodmin, cornwall"

[onzarob]

Oh the keyboard will be great, I think I've just got lazy with typing, I must get the typing training software out and sort it out:D

I can imagine if changing stuff all the time it would be a pain, why don't you get a MOLP key ;)

[onzarob]

Right I'm downloading ubuntu now and let see how i get on, I will be installing it on a virtual machine and lets see how it goes...:D

[Sam]

T'is good for a novice like me. I had it up and running with every part of the PC working in under two hours.

[BaD-BoY]

Vista ... hmmm I bought my laptop 1,5 months ago ... unfortunatelly with Vista ... its very nice system ... but many programs is not compatible ... so i have many problems now .. and my favourite game .. Diablo II has got a problem with running on that system . With each day I`m closer to reinstalling on XP SP2 :)

[onzarob]

T'is good for a novice like me. I had it up and running with every part of the PC working in under two hours.

1 hour and I'm posting on uBuntu!! I have Vista still on my laptop.the hard disc was already in 2 partitions!!!

Amazing, I am a IT contratcor by day, amount of specialist knowledge used...None:beerchug:

So my system is now dual boot with Vista/uBuntu lets see how we progress, If anyone want to do the same it will take longer partiton your hard disc than install.I used the latest live CD from there site.

Great stuff, I've had to load any special drivers and more of my ASUS laptop special keys work than in Vitsa!!!

[Sam]

1 hour and I'm posting on uBuntu!! I have Vista still on my laptop.the hard disc was already in 2 partitions!!!

Amazing, I am a IT contratcor by day, amount of specialist knowledge used...None:beerchug:

So my system is now dual boot with Vista/uBuntu lets see how we progress, If anyone want to do the same it will take longer partiton your hard disc than install.I used the latest live CD from there site.

Great stuff, I've had to load any special drivers and more of my ASUS laptop special keys work than in Vitsa!!!

Just reinstalled XP and Ubuntu on my old man's machine this weekend. The longest part was partitioning the drive.

XP - four hours including updates...oh so many updates.
Ubuntu - 90 minutes, start to finish.

Rob, enjoy it, it's a beautiful system.