and the excitement begins

[bops6]

Excited already, collected a turbo for my new year upgrades today.
Am also in talks with a diesel injector specialist that hopefully within a couple of months will be offering a reconditioning service on our piezzo injectors and more importantly for me rebuilding with bigger nozzles.
Watch this space.

[toofunkyhouse]

Excited already, collected a turbo for my new year upgrades today.
Am also in talks with a diesel injector specialist that hopefully within a couple of months will be offering a reconditioning service on our piezzo injectors and more importantly for me rebuilding with bigger nozzles.
Watch this space.

sounds good, what turbo have you gone for? What power are you looking at once mapped and other bits? Im itching to map my 170 but think that will be as far as I will go, should see 210 would love more. My last car was a 320bhp Astra VXR. Really starting to miss the power that car had but not the build quality lol :D

[bops6]

I'm hoping for a minimum of 350+ and enough torque to spin the moon lol. I'm using the bv50 housing with rs6 compressor and gtb internals, then injectors/ water/meth. Gutted cat. I'm loving this car but my previous audi was running 450-500 depending on setup. That was quite lively.

[carl-1968]

I shall be watching this thread with interest as I also have a water meth kit to fit and fmic cooling spray. Keep posting with any developements and good luck with the mods

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[bops6]

Which meth kit have you got. I was probably going devilsown base 6-30

[carl-1968]

I went with coolingmist from the states. Pump rated at 13.5 gal/min and 200psi. Should be intetesting when its on?


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[Gavin0478]

what sort of price has this set you back out of interest, i know abt did an upgrade for out engine with new turbo injectors and full exhaust and im sure there quotes were close to 400bhp iirc and 650 ish torques but was an absolute fortune.

[fieldy]

I'm hoping for a minimum of 350+ and enough torque to spin the moon lol. I'm using the bv50 housing with rs6 compressor and gtb internals, then injectors/ water/meth. Gutted cat. I'm loving this car but my previous audi was running 450-500 depending on setup. That was quite lively.

seem to remember you had a B5 S4 didn't you :D I had one of those and miss it every day, now I've got the grown up car :D

[bops6]

what sort of price has this set you back out of interest, i know abt did an upgrade for out engine with new turbo injectors and full exhaust and im sure there quotes were close to 400bhp iirc and 650 ish torques but was an absolute fortune.

Not aware of that one, the most powerful 3.0tdi I know of at present is a A5 in Romania at 380 on original injectors. Got any more info on the Abt one? Injectors are the limiting factor. I have found a supplier in the USA who will custom make a set with 50% more flow but requires my old ones and up to 8 weeks to make them fo £1200. I'm holding out for the UK company to see what they can offer.

Cost is not bad actually, turbo rebuild about 500, water meth 220 I'll fit these. Map tweek 200 and decat by my tuner 200. Maybe second fuel pump 150 i'll fit also. This should see min 350bhp and 700-750 nm. If i can sort the injectors this should raise to near 400bhp 800nm

Yes I did have a b5 with k04 and more. I'm not looking for that level of performance as this is the family runner. Well not until i can afford a stage 3 rs6 v10

[carl-1968]

After modding mine to 301bhp & 501lbs/ft I found that traction was a problem both clutch and tyres and being fwd I have to be careful this time of year. Keep us all posted on how things are going

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[bops6]

After modding mine to 301bhp & 501lbs/ft I found that traction was a problem both clutch and tyres and being fwd I have to be careful this time of year. Keep us all posted on how things are going

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As mines a auto and quattro traction isn't an issue, I've also been assured the box is more than capable.

[joedredd]

Watching this with interest, especially re injectors.

[bops6]

For reference, what's the going rate for 6 original injectors

[Gavin0478]

The abt spec used to be on their own site before the latest generation a6 came out
They had the 280 and 305 bhp diesel tuning packages then they also had as on an option on the AS6 (their hot diesel) the option with new abt turbo, bigger injectors and a few other things the monster power upgrade which i am sure was 350-400 bhp but was about 12k!
Out of interest what torques can our box take then?
Is the water/meth really necessary and what does this assist with to sound dumb as its not something i have ever dabbled with

[bops6]

Water meth is simply an injector mounted in the intake which sprays a mixture of water and good quality screen wash to cool down intake temps. I would go uprated intercooler which is the best option but very expensive

12k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll look that up for a laugh
If the car was standard i reckon 350 could be achieved for around 3k
Guess we'll find out if my tuner is right about the gearbox.

[gupsterg]

For reference, what's the going rate for 6 original injectors

I recently got mine for £1080 inc vat full set new not refurbs/exchange... end caps, seals, etc another £100 or so...

Fieldy I think paid £1200 ish from same same supplier... at Audi its double that IIRC...

I read they want your old injectors, so I'm assuming they do full rebuild? any chance of info who doing this mod?
I maybe able to entice someone to buy mine with that info on ebay/forum market place... TIA :) ....

[bops6]

At present I'm in very early discussion with the UK specialist so can't disclose anything yet. If they come good I'll be letting everyone know.
As to the USA supplier i need to do some research myself on them as im always cautious and it's a lot of money to give to a new unknown source.
There is a possible 3rd injector option of BMW 535 injectors, I'm hoping on more info on this from another audi specialist but apparently there is a audi 3.0tdi running them abroad to good results.

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[gupsterg]

Will watch thread ;) ... It's gonna be like the fast & the furious (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZZ60jrw6cg) around Essex soon :beerchug: ...

I just can't believe you call it a family runner :biglaugh: ...

[bops6]

Compared to all my previous cars this is the biggest, most comfortable, most techy, best built, most economical, lazy drive, and desceet. Seems perfect for the new family, she's driving it more than me at the moment until I by her something.

[gupsterg]

I do agree on above comments that's exactly what attracted me :) ...

I just wish my budget had not been blown on other things :rolleyes: ...

Ahh well maybe at some point she'll settle... if not maybe the next car ;) ...

[bops6]

Okay then, maybe a long shot but what the hell. any of you guys who have replaced there injectors kept the old ones and want to offload them? Preferably the working ones to reduce rebuild costs. I'm looking to get a set together to send for upgrading as the turn around time would mean taking my car off the road for some time Which I'd rather not do. Preferably matching part numbers if possible.
Thanks

[gupsterg]

When they do rebuild does it matter if faulty or not?

[bops6]

Apparently they want to flow test each injector before they commence work. They said faulty injectors can be fixed but costs would be increased due to the extra labour

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[gupsterg]

AFAIK 3 on mine were faulty going my measuring blocks... I'll PM them to you if you want?

Same with Fieldy he had 3 faulty, I can't recall how/where he got test done, it may have been@Audi, IMO they would have also just checked MVBs not bench test like injector workshops...

IIRC injector test I was quoted was £10-£15 per 1@a inj.workshop... need the £££ to carry on with project Zesty the A6!

If I get checked the 3 are you interested? I'm happy to discuss price after test done and you will be under no obligation to buy :) ...

There was no blow-by on them or shaft damage...

[fieldy]

AFAIK 3 on mine were faulty going my measuring blocks... I'll PM them to you if you want?

Same with Fieldy he had 3 faulty, I can't recall how/where he got test done, it may have been@Audi, IMO they would have also just checked MVBs not bench test like injector workshops...

IIRC injector test I was quoted was £10-£15 per 1@a inj.workshop... need the £££ to carry on with project Zesty the A6!

If I get checked the 3 are you interested? I'm happy to discuss price after test done and you will be under no obligation to buy :) ...

There was no blow-by on them or shaft damage...

Correct, tested at a Bosch centre using MVB's. But they didnt remove them to test properly. He said to me 3 out of 6 out of tolerance.

[gupsterg]

Mine were rev "S"....


059 130 277 S
059 130 277 Q DROPPED 01/06/2005
059 130 277 AA DROPPED 01/06/2006
059 130 277 AB DROPPED 01/09/2006
059 130 277 AH DROPPED 01/04/2009
059 130 277 BD Current part since 09 (these apply to BMK BNG ASB engine codes)

19008

So IMO injectors 2 (73), 3 (74), 4 (75) ... are very near zero... my car had done 80K when removed...

They were removed with nerd like precision... caps from the new ones were place over them straight away...

So £30 - £45 to get them bench tested with report from Link:- United Diesel (http://www.uniteddiesel.co.uk/index.php) Link:- Wainwright Bros (http://www.wainwright-bros.co.uk/index.html) ....

Here is a great video on a machine which can be used by these type of workshops... Link:- Bench testing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=T3AOERi_TiE&feature=endscreen)

Some great vids on youtube...

[bops6]

Mine were rev "S"....



19008

So IMO injectors 2 (73), 3 (74), 4 (75) ... are very near zero... my car had done 80K when removed...

They were removed with nerd like precision... caps from the new ones were place over them straight away...

So £30 - £45 to get them bench tested with report from Link:- United Diesel (http://www.uniteddiesel.co.uk/index.php) Link:- Wainwright Bros (http://www.wainwright-bros.co.uk/index.html) ....

Here is a great video on a machine which can be used by these type of workshops... Link:- Bench testing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=T3AOERi_TiE&feature=endscreen)

Some great vids on youtube...
Going by them part numbers are the injectors the same for bmk bng and asb

[gupsterg]

Yep :) ...

[bops6]

Right, been doing some more research on intercoolers. Does the A5 3.0tdi have the same intercooler setup as us?
The reason i ask is I`ve found a couple of A5 3.0tdi`s running a larger fmic in place of the old existing one making it an easy upgrade, just some bracket fabrication and a universal core 600x300x76.

[carl-1968]

I replaced the standard intercoolers with a big fmic, think the pics are on another thread. The difference was quiet noticable
Btw the old ic's are for sale if anyone is interested?

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[bops6]

I replaced the standard intercoolers with a big fmic, think the pics are on another thread. The difference was quiet noticable
Btw the old ic's are for sale if anyone is interested?

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Got a link?
What intercooler did you use and plumbing?

[carl-1968]

Heres 1 off the phone I have a few more when we installed it but need to dig them out of the pc. I got the fmic from ebay and the pipework was custom made by my mate who does all my mods (says working on mine is fun compaired to other routien stuff) lol
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[carl-1968]

And yes the crash bar has been ditched but look close and you can just make out that the whole ic has a steel frame built around it to stiffen things up

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[joedredd]

Hows the injector issue going?

[bops6]

Hows the injector issue going?

Update of sorts, the injector specialist is bench and flow testing a variety of different piezo tdi injectors and parts to see if original parts can be combined to come up with the requirements. If this fails he's already tried a few custom made parts to no success but has other custom made routes to try also. This is always going to be the hardest part of this project and also the most time consuming.

[bops6]

Well it's been some time now but finally the fun is nearly here. Turbo, decat and map tweek and service is booked for 2 weeks time. :)
Improved airflow to the intercoolers by replacing fog lights with led strips and s6 grills also.
Will monitor intake temps to see if water meth injection be a benefit, if so in for a penny in for a pound.
Let's see what these barges can really do ;-)
Injectors have had to go on hold for now due to cost and time.

300bhp/420lbsft
hybrid turbo, decat, water meth, improved intercooling, injectors on their way

[carl-1968]

Stop teasing, post some pics of this epic set up. How are you controling the water methanol as my pressure switch has gone **** up and need something a bit more man for the job
Cheers
Carl

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[bops6]

Meth not going on just yet, if and when required at present. I know with would be better but at present as nobody had done this on a a6 3.0tdi we don't know how things will perform.

[carl-1968]

When mine was working I noted a reduction in the inlet temp of up to 10 degrees. I was using B&Q 8% screen wash but have just brought 25 litres of methanol to mix to see the best ratio for mine, who's kit did you use?
Thanks

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[bops6]

When installed I'd be using the Devilsown dvc30 kit with quantum fluid

[carl-1968]

Heard its good kit, how will you be running it?, I use a pressure switch set to 14psi on and 10psi off to stop quenching

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[bops6]

It comes with a boost Controller which had a blast pipe inlet and then set on and off to required level

[bops6]

Well the hybrid fitting got delayed until the end of the month so
Been playing about with increasing air flow to the intercoolers prior to my hybrid and came up with this. Still needs tweaking to finish the edges and I need some diodes to get rid of the bulb warning, any suggestions what's needed?

300bhp/420lbsft
hybrid turbo, decat, water meth, improved intercooling, injectors on their way

[bops6]

Just added these also
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/14/nusure5u.jpg
300bhp/420lbsft
hybrid turbo, decat, water meth, improved intercooling, injectors on their way

[carl-1968]

What sort of intake are you using?, can you post an under bonnet shot?, I had a custom intake made with twin filters to stop any drag on the turbo, the results were pretty good.

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[bops6]

What sort of intake are you using?, can you post an under bonnet shot?, I had a custom intake made with twin filters to stop any drag on the turbo, the results were pretty good.

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Sorry to disappoint but I`m using completely standard intake, just getting more air flow to the existing side mount coolers for now to help intake temps. I`d be interested to see your setup and what gains where made.

[carl-1968]

Will try and find on out for you tomorrow :)

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[carl-1968]

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[bops6]

Now that looks very smart, do you find under bonnet heat an issue being drawn into the filters

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hybrid turbo, decat, water meth, improved intercooling, injectors on their way

[MarkTM]

^^^I'd have thought the higher ambient engine temps would decrease performance over the stock system ...well I've only experience of petrol engines this being my first oil burner. No doubt it'll sound louder due to not being encased, so SoTP dyno will seem better/faster.

[carl-1968]

The shield makes a big difference and the intakes have a cold air feed as well, it sounds pretty good under load as it hisses like a steam train, it will be at Bruntingthorpe on the 26th at the Big meet

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[joedredd]

Any progress on this? Considering using "Darkside" for poss tune up.

[bops6]

Only progress is the car is at the tuner as I write this so hopefully have it back on Saturday:biglaugh:

I spoke to darkside also. If yours is a later spec 2260 turbo they have a very tasty hybrids available. Unfortunately for me I have the earlier bv50 so couldn't fit the 2260 due to different types of actuators.

[joedredd]

is it back?

[bops6]

Is it hell:(
Is Still at the tuner, a small delay. I will be getting it back next Saturday now as that's the soonest I can get there :)
I'll get it in the morning then use it to go to the airport in the afternoon for a short holiday for a week, so I won't be able to give a full report until after that.
The saying goes 'patience is a virtue'
Bxxxxxks to that I want it NOW


300bhp/420lbsft
3.0tdi
hybrid turbo, decat, water meth, improved intercooling, injectors on their way

[joedredd]

gutted, but looking forward to the report when you return :)

[bops6]

Thanks mate. Soon as I've driven it Saturday I'll know if it's been worth the wait. I just hope I don't want to take it further still as the injectors will be my limiting factor, that means big money for a custom set.

[bops6]

Well finally I've had a proper run in it :)
On the journey home from tuner with cc set at 85 she still averaged 42 with occasional blasts so still happy with that.

When pressing on now though you get a wicked shove from 2k upwards along with a suptle turbo whistle. Yes there's a little more soot but what would you expect:sly:

As to exact gains we don't know yet as there dyno had broke a shaft and can only run 2 wheel drive, should be fixed next week though so soon as I get a chance I'll go back to see the results. I fair guess is 330-340bhp with lots and lots of torque.
A definite increase in power though, as 330ci found to his disgust :D

Ended up having a full service with glow plugs, gutted cat, hybrid turbo, map tweek and loads of pipes replaced due to a boost leak I wasn't even aware of and lots of weak aged pipes.

Biggest problem was the actuator which needed replacing and manually calibrating to the new turbo for extra boost, this according to audi is impossible with there calibration tool, well proved them wrong didn't we.

As to the future mods, injectors are now unlikely due to them being made and costs are silly. I'll now be getting some extra stopping power along with some subtle styling mods.

300bhp/420lbsft
3.0tdi
hybrid turbo, decat, water meth, improved intercooling, injectors on their way

[MarkTM]

^^^Any pics?

[Guest 2]

Sounds good, enjoy! :)

[bops6]

Not yet. Car is absolutely disgustingly filthy :(
To be fair there's not a lot to show apart from a clean turbo/ actuator when the engine cover is removed. No photos were taken during install.


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3.0tdi
hybrid turbo, decat, water meth, improved intercooling, injectors on their way

[bops6]

Sounds good, enjoy! :)

Oh I will :thumbup:

300bhp/420lbsft
3.0tdi
hybrid turbo, decat, water meth, improved intercooling, injectors on their way

[joedredd]

Sounds real good. What turbo did you go with? and who built it?

[bops6]

Sounds real good. What turbo did you go with? and who built it?

Ended up having my old bv50 turbo rebuilt with bigger 2283 wheel with ett, then modified housing for more flow.
This was done by The turbo unit

Originally Wanted darkside' s 2260 but it uses a different type of actuator and mounting which wasn't compatible.


300bhp/420lbsft
3.0tdi
hybrid turbo, decat, water meth, improved intercooling, injectors on their way

[carl-1968]

Great result.... meanwhile have replaced boost switch to find a dead short on the motor/pump!, be on the phone later on to speak to makers, it only been on 10 months?

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[bops6]

Got to have my first real fun tonight with the new setup. It would seem on damp or wet roads it'll spin the wheels up while on the move. Turn off the traction and stability and spin spin spin she goes :-)

3??bhp/???lbsft
3.0tdi hybrid turbo, decat, improved intercooling

[carl-1968]

Sounds like you are close to what you aimed for?, meanwhile new pump on its way from the U.S, plus nos bottle heater purchased.....gonna need s full set of tyres snd im not looking forward to that!

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[jubbly]

Wow sounds impressive, only ever spun all my wheels in the snow, though I only have a remap.


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[bops6]

Sounds like you are close to what you aimed for?, meanwhile new pump on its way from the U.S, plus nos bottle heater purchased.....gonna need s full set of tyres snd im not looking forward to that!

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Not been aiming for anything other than a really competent all round motor.
Sounds like your going to be having LOTS of fun with your motor.

[bops6]

Wow sounds impressive, only ever spun all my wheels in the snow, though I only have a remap.


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Yours would from standstill, just turn all the aids off left foot brake right foot throttle plant gas lift brakes and of you go

[jubbly]

I may just have to give that a try 😀🍻

[carl-1968]

Just been looking at prices for tyres........think I need a second mortgage, but out of curiosity what tyres is everyone running?, mines on conti sport contact 3's atm but looking at Michelin pilot sport 3's?

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[bops6]

I'm currently running 255/35 toyo's purely as I got them at such a good price off another forum. When I need more rubber I'll probably go goodyear F1.
Michelin always get really good reviews though

[carl-1968]

Thanks, found dome at tyre universe for £171 each which is cheap compared to £213 most want

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[haysy]

I got my PS3's from here last year;

Car Tyres - MPV Tyres - People Carrier Tyres - 19" R19" - 255/35/19, 255/35R19 <span class=blue>OE Audi</span> (http://www.camskill.co.uk/m55b0s7831p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_19_inch_R19_inch_-_255_35_19_255_35R19_OE_Audi)

Think I paid about £170 each for them if I remember rightly.
The prices seem to drift up and down a bit so keep an eye on them if you are in no hurry.
I wouldnt buy Continentals again as I only got 10k miles out of the ones I had on the front!

[carl-1968]

Thanks for the tip

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[funavant]

Hi guys,
any idea what torque can our C6 3.0tdi ZF tiptronic boxes handle safely?
I see that bops6 is running 500 lbsft, out of my memory that is more than the stock C5 RS6 torque!

[bops6]

No idea what our boxes can handle safely to be honest lol
All I can say is mine is fine at the level is at and to get more out of the engine will require some serious money which at this point for me just isn't possible.


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[MarkTM]

Hi guys,
any idea what torque can our C6 3.0tdi ZF tiptronic boxes handle safely?
I see that bops6 is running 500 lbsft, out of my memory that is more than the stock C5 RS6 torque!

Easiest to check if the box is fitted to anything else, this was my concern 14yrs ago when I SC'd my 1.6 MX-5, luckily in my case it was the same box fitted to London taxi's in the 90's so could handle a LOT of torque :)

[bops6]

Easiest to check if the box is fitted to anything else, this was my concern 14yrs ago when I SC'd my 1.6 MX-5, luckily in my case it was the same box fitted to London taxi's in the 90's so could handle a LOT of torque :)

That's a good tip Mark, I didn't consider doing this :thumbup:



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[funavant]

According to this
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CHYQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speetjenstransmissions.nl%2Fi magescms%2Fartikels%2FMAR%252007%2520Shift%2520Poi nters.pdf&ei=AqDaUq3fGMT17AaxtYCoBQ&usg=AFQjCNGgX68qi0cN6DmHouFRuQQ9KrgrOw&sig2=zRkEYDLLHuxy6v1nemMCCw&bvm=bv.59568121,d.bGQ
the torque limit of the ZF 6HP19 is 400Nm (295 lb.-ft).
So question is, what happens if you go over that...

[bops6]

That can't be right as our cars develop 320lbsft standard

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[funavant]

That can't be right as our cars develop 320lbsft standard

330-350bhp/450-500lbsft
3.0tdi hybrid turbo, decat, improved intercooling
I know.
But even the Wikipedia quotes the same number for 6hp19: 400Nm. (295 lb.-ft)

[jubbly]

Any one can update Wikipedia though

[MarkTM]

Surely more than a coincidence that two seperate sources show a 400lbsft, so anyone thinking of putting more than that through their tranny shouldn't probably be too surprised if it goes bang?

From experience there's usually a 10% safety margin on the upper end.

[bops6]

Mark there both showing 400nm not 400 lbsft

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[bops6]

Couple of rubbish quality videos of my c6.

Audi a6 3.0tdi(3) - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j-dO0TuYGPM)

Audi a6 3.0tdi(2) - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kZgbGzELbfQ)

Audi a6 3.0tdi(1) - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PbH4jhJJc6k)

Audi a6 3.0tdi - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNKR29LcNYY)

[MarkTM]

Ooops sorry my bad 400lbsft= 540nm :(

[funavant]

Well, let's hope that ZF did better job with our boxes compared to the 5HP24A in C5 Audi RS6, which quite often went belly up even with standard RS6 torque of 580Nm (428 lb.-ft).
Has anyone experienced or heard of a box in the C6 A6 3.0TDI going bang driving stock,non mapped engine?

[joedredd]

any updates?

[bops6]

Other than needing all new brakes, oil service, number plate light fix and going to bodyshop to repair my wifes rubbish driving its all good :D
Thinking about water/meth, additional online fuel pump and tweeking map as only on conservative map at present.
2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[bops6]

Well got an mot this afternoon. This should be interesting :rolleyes:

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[carl-1968]

No sweat!, you'll fly thru!

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[bops6]

Hope so, not had one since upgrades so emissions could new fun

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[carl-1968]

Keep us posted

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[bops6]

Well MOT now done :aargh4:
Of all the things I was concerned about failing on ie emissions, suspension, brakes. All fine with no advisories.
The poxy tyres wasn`t on my hit list, it is now. Both front tyres have cord showing on inside edge while outside edge showing half tread still. Had it laser aligned about a year ago so only myself to blame as the wife has been using as a battering ram since and one of the rears has a screw in the inside sidewall causing slow puncture but due to position not fixable.

Think I know the answer but where do I stand with putting 3 new tyres on and using 1 existing with max 5mm tread with straining the quattro drivetrain?

[carl-1968]

I know its an added expenses but personally I'd replace all 4 and keep the other one as a spare?

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[jubbly]

Me to you may get a better price fitting 4, I personally only use branded tyres now as every un branded tyre I've put on a Quattro has started to split, marshals and nankangs to name a few(if I spelled them correctly)!

[bops6]

Just been quoted £850 for 4 x Goodyear f1 assy2 all in fitted and hunter aligned and available
seems fair?

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[carl-1968]

Size?, I paid £808 for 4 mitchelins 255 ,19, 35 fitted so seems reasonable. Have you tried blackcircles.com?

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[bops6]

Same size mate.
will try them now

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[Guest 2]

Just been quoted £850 for 4 x Goodyear f1 assy2 all in fitted and hunter aligned and available
seems fair?

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

I got my Michelins cheaper than that.

[bops6]

Black circles are slightly dearer for f1.
little rushed as my car is the wifes daily and can't have front tyres as they are with her and little one in it so need them fitted tomorrow locally

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[funavant]

I've bought set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 255/35 R19 96Y XL for £596 from tyreleader.co.uk, two weeks ago.
Highly recommended, delivery took 2 days, you can get them delivered to one of their "friendly" garages and have them fitted, I've used Projex UK in Clevedon, £72 to fit them.
Mind, the tyres may be dearer now as they went up in price since I had first seen them on the tyreleader.co.uk.

[bops6]

Well sorted my tyre issue.
Replaced my wheels with nearly new 9 x 20 et40 with 255/30/20
Photos will be added in due coarse

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[bops6]

Well heres a couple of crappy phone shots of a dirty dented car with new rims
now for some lower springs
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/py9ame2a.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/qa6asu5y.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/enudyry2.jpg

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[jubbly]

Sounds expensive lol

[simon_golf_tt]

Looks good. Will be great with springs.
Bit of a stretch on the 9" rims. Watch the kerbs!


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[joedredd]

That's gonna be one hard ride when lowered! Watch out for potholes ;)

[bops6]

Haven't driven on a rough surface yet, on my local roads it doesn't really feel any different though. I'm only dropping 5 in profile from 35 so I guess maybe only on bad roads will it get harder. Again though the h & r springs I've read give a very similar ride to the sline springs so hoping not to have much affect
As to streach, yes they very slightly and kerbs for the wife will be a problem and I forsee becoming friendly with my local refurb man :D

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo decat miltek etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[bops6]

Well the result of putting 20's on with the ride is









I cant tell the difference. :D
What I do know is though after putting the car in for wheel alignment I know why the old tyres died so drastically, the rear geometry is totally screwed :(
Worse still they couldn't actually fix it there and then due to all adjusters be locked solid, so I left with everything coated in penetrating oil and needing to rebook for a suspension work over with heat and big bars :(:(:(


2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[bops6]

Threw a bucket of water over her yesterday then loaded her up and of to centre parcs for the weekend. Managed 35mpg on way her. I'm happy with that:cool:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/03/a8esagy3.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/03/tuvy6yta.jpg

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[AlyM]

Looking very tidy! :)

[bops6]

Will be more tidy when the dents and scratches are gone lol

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[as400]

"Hybrid turbo decat : miltek etc : 330-350 bhp : 450-500lbsft"

Out of interest is your car quick off the mark?..much lag?...am thinking in particular when you need to exit a junction quickly into quick moving traffic etc?...have you found any problems with your performance upgrades?...any downside?

[bops6]

No downsides I can think of except wanting for more power :D

As to launching out into fast traffic, no issue at all. Just see a gap, point and stab the throttle. Oh be careful not to launch into the back of the car infront of you lol.
If overtaking leisurely leave it in drive and if required kick down.
If overtaking quickly flick the paddles to the right gear, about 2000-25000 rpm floor and go. be more careful not to hit what's infront now as it really is instant power.
This is something an e46 m3 found out the other week who was behind me trying it on When I'm doing 50mph and we both go for it down a slip road to a (cough) private runway nothing he could do until some pretty large numbers we're showing.

One more thing, keep the tailpipes clean as they do soot up quickly



2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[Zombic]

@bops6
What was the cost of the hybrid if you don't mind me asking?

[bops6]

To rebuild my existing turbo cost approx £600. Then you need to factor cost of removal, refitting, replacing any tired pipework, decat if required, remap.

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[Zombic]

What was involved in the rebuild and where have you done it ?

[bops6]

Just got back from centre parcs, average adopted because tragic was 55mph with 40.8 mpg :eek:
Well impressed with that :D

Details of the rebuild are in this thread.


2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[brummieboy]

Just got back from centre parcs, average adopted because tragic was 55mph with 40.8 mpg :eek:
Well impressed with that :D

Details of the rebuild are in this thread.


2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

What diesel are you using?

[bops6]

Whatever is closest from local sainsbury/tesco/shell/texaco. Cant be ***** travelling for diesel. Have not noticed any difference in performance whichever goes in

2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[bops6]

Finally had a chance to get a full alignment done. OMG
What a difference, every toe and camber a mile out, apparently the car was crabbing also. No wonder the tyres were destroyed at mot

Feels sooooooo much better :D


2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

[brummieboy]

Finally had a chance to get a full alignment done. OMG
What a difference, every toe and camber a mile out, apparently the car was crabbing also. No wonder the tyres were destroyed at mot

Feels sooooooo much better :D


2007 3.0 tdi le mans
Hybrid turbo, decat, miltek, 20" etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbsft

PM me with where you used. :-)

[bops6]

Well the car has been running great since my last post here, bar the annoying temperamental oil level sensor and bulb warnings.

I think i may have to get a gearbox oil change asap as I'm on 86k at present and have noticed that when i drive the car from stone cold, under load in 4th 5th of feels like the tq converter slips very slightly, ie revs rise slightly faster than car accelerates. As soon as up to temp everything is fine.
Either that or I've found the limit of the gearbox 😂

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[MarkTM]

Bops let us know who you use for this and the cost.

Rarely do I put my car under load in higher gears and usually wait for it to warm up first, most tiptronic owners report a jerkiness in lower gears, still definitely worth going for the internal bolt tightening sequence (I think shown in the long tip thread on here) when you go for the filter/fluid change.

[Arragonis]

...(I think shown in the long tip thread on here) when you go for the filter/fluid change.

Do you have a link to that thread ?

[bops6]

I'll either be using a local audi specialist local to me in colchester or another one in Chelmsford. I will defo have the bolt tightening done to help with the torque loading.

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[MarkTM]

Do you have a link to that thread ?

I just did a search on 'tiptronic' and it was the long one (19 pages if memory serves)...give it a try...you know you want to! :D

[Arragonis]

I just did a search on 'tiptronic' and it was the long one (19 pages if memory serves)...give it a try...you know you want to! :D

There are loads, and some well over 19 pages, and some with you as the last poster at the time of searching... ;)

[bops6]

There a 19 pager with the valve body bolts mentioned torqued to 8nm on page 14

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[Arragonis]

This one perhaps ;)

ZF 6HP19A tiptronic gearbox (A6 3.0 TDI Quattro) (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?141671-ZF-6HP19A-tiptronic-gearbox-%28A6-3-0-TDI-Quattro)

[MarkTM]

By George I think he's got it!! :D

[Arragonis]

The rain in spain stays....

Oh, I feel old again...

[bops6]

Well finally got the car going in for the bodywork to get sorted next week after 'her incidents'
New rear bumper
New passenger rear door
Repair both rear arches
Repair both rear quarters
Lots of paint!
Then mot and full service with all new brakes
Thought about getting the wheels refurbished but she'll only xxxx them again.
Looking forward to the shiny return.


2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[MarkTM]

Looking forward to the shiny return

Which will last how long exactly:confused:

[bops6]

1 week by my reckoning lol
She already stated shes worried when its all fixed she may scratch it! !

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[viperjng]

Hi Bops6,

Wanted to discuss the mods you have done on your A6. Would it be possible to share your email id and contact numbers with me. You could msg me or email me at jngoradia@gmail.com. I have a Audi A6 C6 which I want to mod further. Have done a remap so far and want to go further. My aim is to get as close to 400 whp and about 750 nm of torque. Wanted to discuss pros n cons of doing the same as its also my daily ride.

Am from Mumbai, India btw.

Jignesh

[bops6]

Hi Bops6,

Wanted to discuss the mods you have done on your A6. Would it be possible to share your email id and contact numbers with me. You could msg me or email me at jngoradia@gmail.com. I have a Audi A6 C6 which I want to mod further. Have done a remap so far and want to go further. My aim is to get as close to 400 whp and about 750 nm of torque. Wanted to discuss pros n cons of doing the same as its also my daily ride.

Am from Mumbai, India btw.

Jignesh
The mods I have done mentioned in this thread take the 3.0tdi as far as reasonably possible. If your after more I'd consider getting a 3.0 bitdi as these can be taken to nearly 400 bhp with just a map, these also have the 8 speed box which is stronger and much fast than our dim witted slush box lol.

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[bops6]

Well its finally in the bodyshop, I'm now cruising in a stunning 3 cylinder job. She's a beast lol

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/05/10edaa88480e3a58e9efa4dd37c31bfa.jpg

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[Gavin0478]

The easy answer is just to uncode her key!

[bops6]

Well she's back and looking quite nice I must admit.
For now, her indoors hasn't driven it yet. Lol
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/15/d9f81ec90515cb1e38d1395ac3e92d8e.jpg
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2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[bops6]

Well not really am update. Just back from our yearly trip down south west, as expected car was faultless. 41mpg over brim to brim tank. Only issue getting smoked by a new ish ml63 lol

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[viperjng]

HI,

How is the hybrid turbo performing. Was considering a similar upgrade but heard it causes smoking. Already installed a full Miltek cat back. Would you recommend a FMIC and would that help.

Jignesh

[bops6]

Depends on definition of smoking, under normal driving is the same as a standard car. On full load there is definitely a bit of soot but in my opinion not excessive.
A fmic would improve power but isn't necessary, and as it'd have to be custom the cost versus performance was good enough for me.

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[viperjng]

Hi,

Who did you get the hybrid turbo from. can you share contact and pricing details pls.

Jignesh

[bops6]

Had my existing turbo rebuilt by The Turbo Unit at an approx cost of £800 i think. Then custom map £? And fitting £? Getting the turbo and actuator calibrated is the hardest thing £?

2007 3.0tdi le mans
hybrid turbo, decat,miltek, 20's etc
330-350 bhp
450-500lbst

[bops6]

Excitement over [emoji30]
I have 2 weeks to sell private or it's traded in for £4.5k against a q7.


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[jubbly]

That's good I've only been given £4300 for my 57 plate against a disco 4 ebay is full of jokers

[bops6]

Can't see me trying fleebay for that reason


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